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darren-b
19th March 2009, 22:38
I see last Friday another set of proposals were released by the BIA.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsfragments/Newarrangementsforpartners

If these things are implemented they probably won't be a problem for anyone on here, but just more things to do (and no doubt more fees to pay..).

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'Marriage visas: The way forward' also included several other proposals, including :

We will require those seeking spouse visas to enter into an agreement to learn English as part of the visa application process and, once they have arrived in the UK, to show that they have fulfilled this commitment.

We will set a medium-term goal of introducing a pre-entry English test for marriage visa applicants.

We will seek to revoke indefinite leave to remain rendering the individual liable to expulsion where there has been abuse of the marriage route.

We will introduce a requirement for British citizens and permanent residents who are seeking to sponsor a spouse to come to the UK to first declare their intention before leaving the UK and marrying abroad.

We will publish details of these proposals in due course.

Jay&Zobel
20th March 2009, 06:40
Marriage Visa is getting stricter now too.

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1.2 We want to change practice in this area so that those who are at risk of being pressurised into marriage to a partner from overseas are protected, and that these visas are not abused.
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The Government is aware that this is a topic with many sensitive aspects, but three principles stand out as important:

• No-one should be pressurised into sponsoring a marriage visa;
• Those who wish to sponsor a marriage partner from overseas should be encouraged to establish an independent adult life here first, and to see that as an important way of helping their partner to integrate;
• Spouses who are abandoned by a person they have sponsored have entitlements too, including knowing that their sponsorship is not being abused for further advantages.
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2.15 We want to explore whether the opportunity of a confidential interview would be helpful to the sponsor and whether there are particular features of cases that would make this desirable. We are not proposing interviews about the genuineness of the relationship, but we would offer young women in particular, an opportunity to make a confidential statement about their sponsorship.
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• The Forced Marriage Unit also works with UKvisas and the Immigration Service to stop visas being granted on the basis of a forced marriage – over 100 from Pakistan alone in this financial year.
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FAIR ENOUGH.

The conditions above are good for 'forced marriages' due to customs, traditions and religions of some countries. This will enable to protect the welfare of the young and the vulnerable. Also will prevent abusive relationships ie. rape in marriage, domestic violence...

But, not so good for those who are seeking genuine entry in the United Kingdom....(more documentations to support the relationship, skills such as educational background, age and possible interviews, MARRIAGE SPONSOR DECLARATION PROCESS (see page 18) et al.)

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2.10 Where one of the partners is from overseas, we consider that sufficient time should be allowed for the person in the UK to have completed their education, as well as allowing them to gain in maturity and possess adequate life skills. That will help them to navigate the different pressures and opportunities that they face and should help them prepare to participate in the social and economic opportunities around them in this country.

We will require those seeking spouse • visas to enter into an agreement to learn English as part of the application process and, once they have arrived in the UK, to show that they have fulfilled this commitment. Our medium term goal is to introduce an English test for spouses who want to move to the UK before they arrive here and we will set up a Whitehall group to set out how this can be achieved.
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IELTS? ESOL? ohhh... hehe, so it's like you really need to be skilled, educated and all in order for you to be qualified to marry your Fiance(e) residing in the UK /citizen of UK... Good for you resident/citizen of UK lol...

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Hmmmmm.... But I think these are all good... Both parties will be protected... :Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm:

Jay&Zobel
20th March 2009, 07:54
5.6 Some people may try to evade our requirement. There will be some genuine cases here, but also some forced marriages. We will toughen the process by ensuring additional scrutiny for those we have assessed as at risk of a forced marriage and there will be sanctions for those who fail to obey the rules. This may include refusal of a visa.

We will set out our timetable or introducing this requirement in a statement of intent in the Autumn.

joebloggs
20th March 2009, 20:17
most of these proposals are not new, been talked about for a long time.. :doh

Jay&Zobel
20th March 2009, 21:36
most of these proposals are not new, been talked about for a long time.. :doh



Talked about but never implemented... hmm... maybe this time it will be different :Erm:

Arthur Little
21st March 2009, 02:17
[QUOTE=Jay&Zobel;122741]Talked about but never implemented... hmm... maybe this time it will be different

I reckon you're spot-on. Indeed it already has: Witness the raising of the age from 16 to 18 in [I think] 2003 (sensibly) and, more recently, from 18 to 21 (debateable!) in November past.

Jonnywina
24th March 2009, 19:52
i will submit application in april and go the manila in May. Nothing will change before then? I hope not :)