PAST, PRESENT and the FUTURE...

[ANDRES25]

As all of us know, a University degree in the Philippines isn't really recognized here in the UK and no matter how much experience you have or how high your job position was in the Philippines, it doesn't really count much in securing or landing any jobs here in the UK except maybe if you're a registered nurse in the Philippines.

To all the FILIPINO members of this forum, I am just wondering, what was your job/ educational background before you left the Philippines and what's your current job now here in the UK?

It would really inspire a lot of people specially a person like me, who is starting from scratch. It would really be nice if you could share your experiences and what did you do to be in the position you're in now and what do you want to do or achieve in the future?

[Tawi2]

Very interesting question :xxgrinning--00xx3: What if a pinay was coming here with a very good degree indeed and having worked on projects for,and having references from USAID and World Bank?

[bornatbirth]

i know plenty smart filipinos mainly my wifes family :xxgrinning--00xx3:

and im sure they will do very well here!

but they will be shocked at the expense here :NoNo:

its just a matter of adapting and retraining in the uk and we all get the chance to education?

[Tawi2]

I know one who turned down a job in Pinas last month 50 thousand pesos a month plus car and fringe benefits,thats decent money over there :Erm:

[Sophie]

I know one who turned down a job in Pinas last month 50 thousand pesos a month plus car and fringe benefits,thats decent money over there :Erm:

he/she probably got a better offer elsewhere :)

[Tawi2]

She actually already has a very good job,no car with it though,but she gets plenty of flights,the job she turned down was closer to her family home however :Erm:

[Sophie]

She actually already has a very good job,no car with it though,but she gets plenty of flights,the job she turned down was closer to her family home however :Erm:

oh, she's probably desperate to get away from home :icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Arthur Little]

[QUOTE=ANDRES25;135444]As all of us know, a University degree in the Philippines isn't really recognized here in the UK and no matter how much experience you have or how high your job position was in the Philippines, it doesn't really count much in securing or landing any jobs here in the UK except maybe if you're a registered nurse in the Philippines.

:rolleyes: Don't I know it! And it's all so, sooooooooooo WRONG! My wife graduated BSc in Agricultural Education after 4 years' hard slog at the University of S.E. Asia's Tagum City Campus and subsequently taught for 22 years in a National High School. Yet, according to the Scottish Vocational Qualifications Authority [SVQA] her degree is only recognised as being on a par with HNC/HND here - :angry: in spite of further part-time study towards a 'Masters' in Education, and being the holder of a clutch of other certificates attained at various intervals throughout a highly successful teaching career.

Now, in my opinion - and I'm sure many will agree with me on this :furious3: - a degree is a DEGREE, regardless of WHERE it is obtained. In fact, I even raised a thread about this very subject a number of weeks ago. Entitled "The Great (Educational) Divide", it appeared in the 'Rants' column, and, as the name implies, it drew attention to the imbalances in the academic 'rating systems' as percieved by different nationalities. Sadly, my article barely left the 'launching pad'! Fingers crossed THIS one will gather sufficient momentum (if not exactly to exert pressure on the British and other governments around the world to re-examine their set criteria) to at least encourage members of this forum who find themselves in a similar situation, to make their views known.

Normally, I am fond of interspersing my posts with a fair sprinkling of humour. As regards this PARTICULAR topic, though, I'm deadly serious!

[pennybarry]

As all of us know, a University degree in the Philippines isn't really recognized here in the UK and no matter how much experience you have or how high your job position was in the Philippines, it doesn't really count much in securing or landing any jobs here in the UK except maybe if you're a registered nurse in the Philippines.

To all the FILIPINO members of this forum, I am just wondering, what was your job/ educational background before you left the Philippines and what's your current job now here in the UK?

It would really inspire a lot of people specially a person like me, who is starting from scratch. It would really be nice if you could share your experiences and what did you do to be in the position you're in now and what do you want to do or achieve in the future?

Most of us here started from scratch so you are not alone. My CV was quite impressive before as after I graduated, I worked in a big company as Payroll accountant for 3 years, 7 yrs supervisory job, travel agency and ran business. But when I arrived here, my CV became such a horrible one. I worked for housekeeping , factory, webpage design, machine operator:Brick: But that is life. The most important is, THE WAGES. Will not give up studying until I got the job that I will enjoy:xxgrinning--00xx3:
:BouncyHappy::Hellooo::cwm12:

[darren-b]

Now, in my opinion - and I'm sure many will agree with me on this :furious3: - a degree is a DEGREE, regardless of WHERE it is obtained.

I totally disagree with you on this. Just because two things have the same name, it doesn't mean they are equivalent. You need to look at what the course actually involved and compare that to similar UK courses to work out the value of the qualification.

[adam&chryss]

I was a Document/Marketing manager for 2 years in an Export/Import company for 2 years, then was a Manager in a Korean Restaurant after that I was a Marketing Analyst in a publication company, worked there for 3years till i got here in UK. Which this publication is based here in UK, though I was working in Pinas. If we were in London my employer will surely hire me in his company but too far for our place.

Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

[aromulus]

I was a Document/Marketing manager for 2 years in an Export/Import company for 2 years, then was a Manager in a Korean Restaurant after that I was a Marketing Analyst in a publication company, worked there for 3years till i got here in UK. Which this publication is based here in UK, though I was working in Pinas. If we were in London my employer will surely hire me in his company but too far for our place.

Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

Happy Birthday, btw............:Hellooo:

[Jay&Zobel]

Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3: The best job in the world! Well done!


Happy Birthday, btw............:Hellooo:

it's your birthday, it's your birthday! happy happy birthday Chryssie? Adam? ;-)


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I had several jobs back home:
I worked as a parttime Preschool Teacher/Administrator. (units earned in Preschool Education).
Freelance Accountant/Bookkeeper on weekends. (degree holder, BS Accountancy).
Other sidelines: Selling random things (hehehe... my passion)

My life there was 24/7!!!

Then I got here... wasn't able to work for 6mos (I got bored, really bored, so bored, super bored...)
But then, I was blessed enough that my husband is a part-owner of their family business so they hire me as their Accountants Assistant, which until now I am very thankful of. (able to use my degree & experiences:xxgrinning--00xx3:)

Now (on Maternity Leave) a fulltime mother & a wife and definitely loving it.:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:


For job hunters: don't worry I am sure no matter what job you will have, you will excel in that field. Filipinos are known as hardworkers right?

Taking short term courses also helps :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[kimmi]

I was a Document/Marketing manager for 2 years in an Export/Import company for 2 years, then was a Manager in a Korean Restaurant after that I was a Marketing Analyst in a publication company, worked there for 3years till i got here in UK. Which this publication is based here in UK, though I was working in Pinas. If we were in London my employer will surely hire me in his company but too far for our place.

Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

Happy Birthday Adam& Chryss..but like what Zobel asked who's who?:D:omg:


As all of us know, a University degree in the Philippines isn't really recognized here in the UK and no matter how much experience you have or how high your job position was in the Philippines, it doesn't really count much in securing or landing any jobs here in the UK except maybe if you're a registered nurse in the Philippines.

To all the FILIPINO members of this forum, I am just wondering, what was your job/ educational background before you left the Philippines and what's your current job now here in the UK?

It would really inspire a lot of people specially a person like me, who is starting from scratch. It would really be nice if you could share your experiences and what did you do to be in the position you're in now and what do you want to do or achieve in the future?


When I was in the Philippines Ive worked as a

- Guidance Counselor and Psychology Prof
- Part- time Pre- School teacher
- Tutorials (one of my sidelines)
- Casino Dealer

Ive got a degree in Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Masteral in SPED.

now I am working here in the UK as a wife, a restaurant staff, a volunteer playgroup/classroom assistant,a trainee in the Post office here in our village and studying in OU..and I am just taking these jobs as experiences and as stepping stone to a career that I know sooner or later I'll be qualified also when I married my hubby and moved here in the UK I know that decision comes with a sacrifice ..:D

for all those Job Hunters wife, just dont give up..it doesn't matter if at the moment u cant find the JOB that is right with the degree that u finished in our country what matters is U LOVE ur JOB and u ENJOY doing it..

and we the current situation of the economy right now, we must feel lucky if we've got jobs, Ive just heard on the news this morning that BT Communications are going to lay off 15thou jobs..

[Jamesey]

My wife is a nurse. She worked for a couple of years in the Philippines, then the Middle East and finally here in UK for the NHS.

But I've got a friend who met his Filipina wife in Bermuda. They're both accountants out there. It seems that the Filipinos are on par with the Brits, Americans, Europeans, etc. and they would be able to go pretty much anywhere in the world and get a decent accounting job.

I'm not sure of his wife's background but I think she worked for one of the big insternational professional services companies in Manila before she transferred to Bermuda.

Surely, if you work for a big company like that, then your skills and qualifications will be viewed equally throughout the world?

[Sophie]

I guess with regards to starting from scratch - we filipinas go through thesame dilemma as we have to start somewhere, and it could be lower from what we hoped for, but it's the experience were more after and we can take on from there and better off our careers slowly and establish ourselves here.
I have yet to face all this since i haven't really started applying for a job yet. I'm still spending and enjoying a little more time with my hubby since were still on our honeymoon stage but maybe in a month or 2, i will be on the hunt for a job myself. Anyway, when i do, i'm not sure what to expect, i guess i'll just have to be open minded and take on the challenge of getting a job that i feel suits me best. Having said that, i got a degree in Accountancy and my first job after my college graduation is in a consultancy firm in makati city, i only stayed there for 2 months though since i got a better offer from Philam Insurance/AIG in makati too and i worked there for 5 years, then i moved to a real estate company in ortigas city to further my career and worked there for 4 years as a credit control officer. Then i met my hubby, and now i'm here in uk as a full time wife (for now) :D I have yet to see what this country will bring as far as my career is concerned............until then, going for training courses here and acquiring more skills in line with your degree would help a lot i suppose.......... Best of luck to all of us filipinas :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ann07]

Get as much qualifications as you can when you are in the uk...that will help you in a long run to get your dream job:)

[Arthur Little]

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Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

Without a shadow of doubt, this vital (yet so often, grossly-underrated) role is the BEST job of all! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

:birthday: Chryss.

[adam&chryss]

Happy Birthday, btw............:Hellooo:


:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3: The best job in the world! Well done!



it's your birthday, it's your birthday! happy happy birthday Chryssie? Adam? ;-)





Happy Birthday Adam& Chryss..but like what Zobel asked who's who?:D:omg:






Without a shadow of doubt, this vital (yet so often, grossly-underrated) role is the BEST job of all! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

:birthday: Chryss.

Well, thanks everyone!

It's Adam's birthday but feels like my birthday.. Because he took me out shopping.. He bought me new clothes and shoes :BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy:

[Arthur Little]

OOps sorry. Happy Birthday, ADAM! Never mind, it gave me a grand opportunity to commend someone who [in a largely materialistic world] is prepared to lay aside the ubiquitous desire to earn more money for the sake of her husband and two young children. Which, in my opinion is how it SHOULD be!

I only wish there were more like you.

[DianaKevy]

Get as much qualifications as you can when you are in the uk...that will help you in a long run to get your dream job:)

I agree with you mam:) as much as possible don't be so picky in looking for a job coz what we want for now is the work experience. mostly thats what they are looking for. so to those who are still on job hunting good luck!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

I totally disagree with you on this. Just because two things have the same name, it doesn't mean they are equivalent. You need to look at what the course actually involved and compare that to similar UK courses to work out the value of the qualification.

Do YOU have a university qualification in Agriculture darren-b? :rolleyes: If so, perhaps you could share your knowledge with me. If not, then how CAN you dar[re]n b***** well possibly claim to disagree with my statement WITHOUT having at least some idea of the course content?

It's high time academia in Scotland came down off its high horse and acknowledged the fact that the misguided notions of worldwide "supremacy" it enjoyed in the field of education yesteryear, are long gone.:Wave: Is it reasonable to expect the ever-increasing number of graduates from the more recent universities to be cast aside in favour of those who attended the more traditional establishments - even though they hold the same level of qualification? :NoNo: I think not!

[darren-b]

Do YOU have a university qualification in Agriculture darren-b? :rolleyes: If so, perhaps you could share your knowledge with me. If not, then how CAN you dar[re]n b***** well possibly claim to disagree with my statement WITHOUT having at least some idea of the course content?

I am only disagreeing with your generic statement that a degree is a degree regardless of where it was obtained - the only part of your message I quoted. I did not make any comment about the comparison of a specific degree obtained in the Philippines against it's Scottish equivalent.

[tiger@tigress]

I was a Document/Marketing manager for 2 years in an Export/Import company for 2 years, then was a Manager in a Korean Restaurant after that I was a Marketing Analyst in a publication company, worked there for 3years till i got here in UK. Which this publication is based here in UK, though I was working in Pinas. If we were in London my employer will surely hire me in his company but too far for our place.
Now i'm a fulltime housewife and a mother of two :)

Same here adam&chryss.... My previous job was a Sales/Documentation/QC Manager (i do everything in import/export).... for a French Company based in Philippines for nine years. (free transportation, twice a year travel to China, Hongkong, Thai to attend exhibits) and five more years experiencein the same field from another company... My first job here in England was Kitchen Assistant in Nursing Home, hard job yeah,,,, But i did get my self into course..... I applied for a Office receptionist but the boss offered me a better position with a better pay :D:D:D:Hellooo::BouncyHappy::Hellooo::BouncyHappy::Hellooo::BouncyHappy:

[pennybarry]

Happy Birthday Adam& Chryss..but like what Zobel asked who's who?:D:omg:




When I was in the Philippines Ive worked as a

- Guidance Counselor and Psychology Prof
- Part- time Pre- School teacher
- Tutorials (one of my sidelines)
- Casino Dealer

Ive got a degree in Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Masteral in SPED.

now I am working here in the UK as a wife, a restaurant staff, a volunteer playgroup/classroom assistant,a trainee in the Post office here in our village and studying in OU..and I am just taking these jobs as experiences and as stepping stone to a career that I know sooner or later I'll be qualified also when I married my hubby and moved here in the UK I know that decision comes with a sacrifice ..:D

for all those Job Hunters wife, just dont give up..it doesn't matter if at the moment u cant find the JOB that is right with the degree that u finished in our country what matters is U LOVE ur JOB and u ENJOY doing it..

and we the current situation of the economy right now, we must feel lucky if we've got jobs, Ive just heard on the news this morning that BT Communications are going to lay off 15thou jobs..


Psychology???????:omg:
So you have no problem with your hubby's behaviour.

I am thankful I took about 28 units of Psychology and applied to my hubby's mood. :D

Wish you finish your course soon here Kimmi so we can call you a real Mam:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[sunshine]

Most of us here started from scratch so you are not alone. My CV was quite impressive before as after I graduated, I worked in a big company as Payroll accountant for 3 years, 7 yrs supervisory job, travel agency and ran business. But when I arrived here, my CV became such a horrible one. I worked for housekeeping , factory, webpage design, machine operator:Brick: But that is life. The most important is, THE WAGES. Will not give up studying until I got the job that I will enjoy:xxgrinning--00xx3:
:BouncyHappy::Hellooo::cwm12:


Hi pennybarry, where and how did u learn web design? I really wanted to learn this but its quite expensive to enroll here in Philippines for such a short term:doh

[pennybarry]

Hi pennybarry, where and how did u learn web design? I really wanted to learn this but its quite expensive to enroll here in Philippines for such a short term:doh

There's free CD given to those who are willing to learn Web design. In the Philippines, my friend got one. Where are you? Here or Pinas? If you are coming here soon, you can enrol to your nearest local college. Not so much expensive here. Also, we had free orientation and training at work. There have also lots of private tutorials here. Our neighbor do tutorial but it cost 20£/hour. Expensive:doh

[sunshine]

There's free CD given to those who are willing to learn Web design. In the Philippines, my friend got one. Where are you? Here or Pinas? If you are coming here soon, you can enrol to your nearest local college. Not so much expensive here. Also, we had free orientation and training at work. There have also lots of private tutorials here. Our neighbor do tutorial but it cost 20£/hour. Expensive:doh


I'm still here in Pinas, never heard of the free CD Web Design. Lucky your friend got one. I want to learn this while im still in Pinas. trying to:rolleyes:

[Florge]

hmmm... ALL Uni in the Phils? Even Asian Institute of Management who are internationally afffiliated with other business schools worldwide? hmmmm.... would have to ask about it then...

[Tawi2]

Reminds me of the Cambridge Neuropsychopharmacogenetics degree I bought in Bangkok :icon_lol:

[trader dave]

the education system is corrupt like most things there :icon_lol::NoNo:you can buy yourself a degree :xxgrinning--00xx3:

its nice being educated in the philippines if you are fortunate enough to have a family who can send you :NoNo:they might also have put money under the table so you can get that degree:xxgrinning--00xx3:

there are many very clever people in the phils who have never had the chance to go to school :furious3:and many are far from stupid but when you cant get a job in a particular place because you are a catholic AND THEY ONLY EMPLOY PROTESTENTS thats when you relise that perhaps we do have some good things in the uk :icon_lol:

[Florge]

Reminds me of the Cambridge Neuropsychopharmacogenetics degree I bought in Bangkok :icon_lol:

And you're suppose to do what? :Erm::rolleyes:

[Tawi2]

I dont have a degree florge,never went to uni,my dad only had 2 jobs in his entire life 18 years at sea and 20 years in the prison service,when I said I wanted to go to Uni he said "Dont be stupid,get a real job" :icon_lol: I live in a nice area,very nice actually,most of my neighbours are intellectuals,whenever I go to BBQ's I hate saying I didnt go to Uni,so I was in Bangkok once and saw a shop that sold "Genuine" degrees,I asked for one from Cambridge and I made up the neuropsychopharmacogeneticist subject,nowadays when I am at a BBQ and someone asked what did I study I just casually throw in "Neuropsychopharmacogenetics" :icon_lol:Instead of saying "What the f*cks that??????"and appearing stupid they normally say "Oh,interesting" and change the topic of conversation :icon_lol::icon_lol:
Daves right,you can buy degrees in pinas,or your families influence and power can get you one :rolleyes:

[Jay&Zobel]

I dont have a degree florge,never went to uni,my dad only had 2 jobs in his entire life 18 years at sea and 20 years in the prison service,when I said I wanted to go to Uni he said "Dont be stupid,get a real job" :icon_lol: I live in a nice area,very nice actually,most of my neighbours are intellectuals,whenever I go to BBQ's I hate saying I didnt go to Uni,so I was in Bangkok once and saw a shop that sold "Genuine" degrees,I asked for one from Cambridge and I made up the neuropsychopharmacogeneticist subject,nowadays when I am at a BBQ and someone asked what did I study I just casually throw in "Neuropsychopharmacogenetics" :icon_lol:Instead of saying "What the f*cks that??????"and appearing stupid they normally say "Oh,interesting" and change the topic of conversation :icon_lol::icon_lol:
Daves right,you can buy degrees in pinas,or your families influence and power can get you one :rolleyes:

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

we never know, someday it will be a REAL DEGREE in uni hahahah... well done!

[Tawi2]

I havent done so badly for someone with no formal education :xxgrinning--00xx3: Sometimes the best school is the uni of hard knocks :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[cheesewiz]

I totally disagree with you on this. Just because two things have the same name, it doesn't mean they are equivalent. You need to look at what the course actually involved and compare that to similar UK courses to work out the value of the qualification.

I am 100% agree.

In Phils, one example is, a newly graduate with flying honours applying for a job that this person is so confident that he/she will get the job bec of academic achievement. Then another candidate applying for the same job got the same degree with no honours just bec she is a graduate from reputable universities/college let say La Salle or Ateneo, who do you think who will get the job? No doubt that its either of the two reputable school and this poor person who are more qualified sad to say will never get a job.

So, even in Phils, DEGREE becomes very important it depends where you get it in a reputable Universities, no wonder many DEGREES in Phils that never recognized in UK.

Aside from that I believe that education system in the Phils nowadays are very poor bec I think only in the Phils that so many private schools even a small house can be called a school and its more on business than actually an institution to mould children to have a good education for their future.

[trader dave]

YOU CANT GET BETTER THAN THE UNIVERSITY OF LIFE --real life:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

[Tawi2]

Got to endorse that dave.One word for you cheese,nepotism,pinas is infamous for it,if your from a small no reputation uni,against a graduate from Ataneo or silliman,but your family know the interviewer...................... :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Sophie]

I Daves right,you can buy degrees in pinas :rolleyes:

You can buy degrees in pinas via the fake diplomas in recto avenue but there is no way you can LAND A JOB NOR KEEP ONE using the fake degree that you bought. It's just not possible, after all, its your performance on the job that would count. If you did not study the degree you are claiming to have had, there's no way you can perform and accomplish the task and the work assigned to you. So its true you can buy degrees in the philippines, but you won't get away with it and it won't take you anywhere, not to any viable job or career, neither a spot in the corporate world. So for most people there, buying a degree is never an option. You enroll in one and get a rightful degree.

[Tawi2]

Sophie,its been documented both in the press and on TV here where certain individuals have bought foreign degrees and worked in their profession right here in the UK for quite some time,I certainly remember asian and african fraudulent doctors and others :icon_lol: Maybe thats why asian degrees are viewed with suspicion here :Erm:

[Sophie]

Sophie,its been documented both in the press and on TV here where certain individuals have bought foreign degrees and worked in their profession right here in the UK for quite some time,I certainly remember asian and african fraudulent doctors and others :icon_lol: Maybe thats why asian degrees are viewed with suspicion here :Erm:

yeah, i heard about that too, these people must be really clever and naturally intelligent to pull it off and actually trick a lot of professional people and even experts at that. I think these are the what we normally refer to as "JACK OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE" :icon_lol: But was there a reported case already about a filipino who pulled it off here in the uk by maybe posing as a doctor with a fake degree? :D

[cheesewiz]

oh yeah 100% you can buy a DEGREE in Phils. I have a Pinoy workmate last year whose also a senior carer (he's a puff:D) in his CV he said he is a Nursing graduate in Phils but he got a Business Degree (Management). He is very open about it (I mean in filipino gatherings). He get that from Recto in Manila for only 1000 pesos:NoNo: He paid the agency around £2500 to get a job here. He is a good worker no doubt about it fortunately he's in New Zealand now doing the same job:doh. Bless him.

[Tawi2]

Theres more of it going on than anyone imagines,lots of people pull it off for years :icon_lol: Cheese,your my hero,if I could buy your character in a bottle I would stock my cupboards full to brimming,that line was absolutely classic :icon_lol::icon_lol:........................He's a puff :icon_lol::D:icon_lol:

[trader dave]

it does go on here as we have seen dodgy degrees from other countries :Erm::NoNo:

the education system and the class system in the philippines realy does make my blood boil sometimes :furious3::furious3:

ok here we still have maybe a class system :icon_lol: but the philippine class system well what can i say :xxgrinning--00xx3::Erm: not to much because it upsets those who have been fortunate enough to have been educated:icon_lol::NoNo:

[kimmi]

Psychology???????:omg:
So you have no problem with your hubby's behaviour.

I am thankful I took about 28 units of Psychology and applied to my hubby's mood. :D

Wish you finish your course soon here Kimmi so we can call you a real Mam:xxgrinning--00xx3:

hi Ate Penny,

I really dont have any problem with hubby's behaviour it's just sometimes our persoanlity clashes because I am more of Melancholy and he's a Sanguine type..:doh:doh

btw, thanks for the wishes..I hope so I do really finish my course in here:bigcry::NoNo:

[adam&chryss]

Same here adam&chryss.... My previous job was a Sales/Documentation/QC Manager (i do everything in import/export).... for a French Company based in Philippines for nine years. (free transportation, twice a year travel to China, Hongkong, Thai to attend exhibits) and five more years experiencein the same field from another company... My first job here in England was Kitchen Assistant in Nursing Home, hard job yeah,,,, But i did get my self into course..... I applied for a Office receptionist but the boss offered me a better position with a better pay :D:D:D:Hellooo::BouncyHappy::Hellooo::BouncyHappy::Hellooo::BouncyHappy:

That's the only thing i love about being a Marketing/Documentation Manager... Attending exhibits :D Everything's free. Transportation, nice and good Hotel to stay in, allowance and meals in an expensive restaurants with clients. Plus sneeking out to bars and discos at night :xxgrinning--00xx3:
well, I do hope I can find a job easily, when Isaac is older to go to school. No matter what job it is as long as it's decent.

I guess your boss saw your potentials giving you a better position :xxgrinning--00xx3: That's what filipinas are, can work anywhere and any kind of job.

[Arthur Little]

Reminds me of the Cambridge Neuropsychopharmacogenetics degree I bought in Bangkok :icon_lol:

Well why ever not? After all you can buy a PEERAGE here in the UK! Whatever turns you on, I suppose ...:lol2:

[somebody]

Happy Birthday Adam& Chryss..but like what Zobel asked who's who?:D:omg:




When I was in the Philippines Ive worked as a

- Guidance Counselor and Psychology Prof
- Part- time Pre- School teacher
- Tutorials (one of my sidelines)
- Casino Dealer

Ive got a degree in Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Masteral in SPED.

now I am working here in the UK as a wife, a restaurant staff, a volunteer playgroup/classroom assistant,a trainee in the Post office here in our village and studying in OU..and I am just taking these jobs as experiences and as stepping stone to a career that I know sooner or later I'll be qualified also when I married my hubby and moved here in the UK I know that decision comes with a sacrifice ..:D

for all those Job Hunters wife, just dont give up..it doesn't matter if at the moment u cant find the JOB that is right with the degree that u finished in our country what matters is U LOVE ur JOB and u ENJOY doing it..

and we the current situation of the economy right now, we must feel lucky if we've got jobs, Ive just heard on the news this morning that BT Communications are going to lay off 15thou jobs..

Wow just a tad busy then:D

At the moment getting into the Job market is more important it seems than what actual postion. Many British people are having to reevaluate what Jobs they go after at the moment.

[Tish]

Well why ever not? After all you can buy a PEERAGE here in the UK! Whatever turns you on, I suppose ...:lol2:

What's a PEERAGE? :Erm:

Tish

[Tish]

I totally disagree with you on this. Just because two things have the same name, it doesn't mean they are equivalent. You need to look at what the course actually involved and compare that to similar UK courses to work out the value of the qualification.


I'm with you on this darren-b :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[Arthur Little]

[QUOTE=cheesewiz;136189] (he's a puff:D)

What's being a POOF got to do with it ... ? ... unless he's a cleaner in a gents' toilet! :icon_lol:

[Tawi2]

I think that line was a classic :icon_lol: Arthur,I think she is referring to the fact that a lot of Pinoy male nursing graduates are homosexual,not all,but certainly a higher proportion than would say go into nautical professions or engineering :Erm:
Here you are Tish........http://www.selecttitles.co.uk/epages/es112381.sf

[Tish]

I think that line was a classic :icon_lol: Arthur,I think she is referring to the fact that a lot of Pinoy male nursing graduates are homosexual,not all,but certainly a higher proportion than would say go into nautical professions or engineering :Erm:
Here you are Tish........http://www.selecttitles.co.uk/epages/es112381.sf

Oh I see. So this is what PEERAGE is all about :doh

Better try and see if I could become a Lady of the Manor, but then again, I'm already one :D in my own home of course :icon_lol:

I can be anything I want to be in my own home :Rasp:

Tish

[joebloggs]

I'm with you on this darren-b :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

for a degree being a degree, :NoNo:

in some countries you can get a 'degree' in 2 years, that's why NARIC might say its only equivalent to a HNC/HND.

there are many fake unis/colleges in the UK giving out worthless bits of paper as certificates.

my misses has just been on a 10 day medical course taught by Indian consultants who work for the NHS, after finishing the course, she told me some of what she was taught by her profs back in Laguna was :censored:

the misses has not given up being a doc in the UK, just one exam to go, it's taken 4yrs to get this far. she's not giving up :rolleyes:

[Tish]

for a degree being a degree, :NoNo:

in some countries you can get a 'degree' in 2 years, that's why NARIC might say its only equivalent to a HNC/HND.

True. And even if nursing degree were accepted here, transitional period still have to be implemented, so nurses will have to work in the same standard of practice.

there are many fake unis/colleges in the UK giving out worthless bits of paper as certificates.

Oh yeah. It's advertised everywhere on the net!:NoNo:

my misses has just been on a 10 day medical course taught by Indian consultants who work for the NHS, after finishing the course, she told me some of what she was taught by her profs back in Laguna was :censored:

the misses has not given up being a doc in the UK, just one exam to go, it's taken 4yrs to get this far. she's not giving up :rolleyes:

That's so good of her Joebloggs. I salute her on that. I know how hard it is to study and work at the same time whilst being a Mom, Wife, Lover and so on :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[Arthur Little]

What's a PEERAGE? :Erm:

Tish

Traditionally, it's a [peculiarly British] title [usually] inherited by someone of "noble" (member of the aristocracy) rank and/or birth. Nowadays, however, it can be - and often is -bestowed on an [otherwise ordinary] individual e.g. a statesman/woman, business person, etc., in recognition of some meritorious service he or she has performed on behalf of his/her country.

Oh dear! ... I do hope my explanation doesn't appear too "heavy" or complicated, Tish. :cwm12:

[joebloggs]

That's so good of her Joebloggs. I salute her on that. I know how hard it is to study and work at the same time whilst being a Mom, Wife, Lover and so on :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

she's studying now(while watching tv:D), its hard when you've been studying for like the last 20yrs, to get motivated, but so near now, no matter how difficult the BMA make it for IMG's, she will be a rare sight, a filipina doc in the uk :Hellooo:

good luck to all the others, just don't quit, some times you have to go one step back to go 2 forward :doh.

2wks on Friday is her exam, so a months time i hope she can start applying for jobs :rolleyes:, if not she will be taking it again :D

yes she's a mom to a 2 1/2yr old and a 9yr old, and of course a wife, also works 20+ hrs a week and studying when she can, not much time for the other thing you mentioned :doh.........:icon_lol:

where me tea :doh :furious3:

:icon_lol:

[David House]

I totally disagree with you on this. Just because two things have the same name, it doesn't mean they are equivalent. You need to look at what the course actually involved and compare that to similar UK courses to work out the value of the qualification.

I have to agree with you Darren. Many degrees in the Philippines are a farce. The system is so corrupt that students can pay off their tutors for course work not done. The "universities" pass many who know very little simply to maintain a good record. You must remember that the motivation of these institutions is to make money. They thrive on high drop out rates, high student to teacher ratios and as low a standard to actual education as they can get away with. I have some recent personal experience as my wife attended the University of Cebu for the last semester and I was appalled at what she was taught for her degree course. It would struggle to meet GCSE standards here. She did a Btec in the UK in the years before and agrees that that course was much more demanding.
That is not to say ALL degrees in the Philippines are like that. Some from the major institutions will match the best but no-one should claim a "degree is a degree" because all the evidence says that is untrue. I know many arriving Filipinos expect that their qualifications will be of great benefit and feel cheated when the UK employers don't recognise them but their anger needs to be re-directed at the education system in the Philippines which requires a total overhaul and the implication of new and strictly enforced national standards both of teaching and examinations.

[Tish]

[QUOTE=joebloggs;136224]she's studying now(while watching tv:D), its hard when you've been studying for like the last 20yrs, to get motivated, but so near now, no matter how difficult the BMA make it for IMG's, she will be a rare sight, a filipina doc in the uk :Hellooo:

good luck to all the others, just don't quit, some times you have to go one step back to go 2 forward :doh.

2wks on Friday is her exam, so a months time i hope she can start applying for jobs :rolleyes:, if not she will be taking it again :D

yes she's a mom to a 2 1/2yr old and a 9yr old, and of course a wife, also works 20+ hrs a week and studying when she can, not much time for the other thing you mentioned :doh.........:icon_lol:

where me tea :doh :furious3:

Oh yeah, a filipina doc in the uk, that would be awesome! Better introduce me to the missis then Joebloggs, so I can tell people that there is a filipina I know who will be a doc soon :xxgrinning--00xx3:

One thing I would like to say to the missis though (if she don't mind), is that she must never feel guilty about anything. I remember when I was studying at Salford Uni (not far from you Mod) I just can't seem to stop feeling guilty about everything from leaving the children and not spending enough time with them to neglecting my husband and the list goes on and on :doh

Tish

[Tish]

Traditionally, it's a [peculiarly British] title [usually] inherited by someone of "noble" (member of the aristocracy) rank and/or birth. Nowadays, however, it can be - and often is -bestowed on an [otherwise ordinary] individual e.g. a statesman/woman, business person, etc., in recognition of some meritorious service he or she has performed on behalf of his/her country.

Oh dear! ... I do hope my explanation doesn't appear too "heavy" or complicated, Tish. :cwm12:

Not too "heavy" at all Arthur Little. And thank you for explaining it in details. I love learning new things everyday :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[joebloggs]

[
One thing I would like to say to the missis though (if she don't mind), is that she must never feel guilty about anything. I remember when I was studying at Salford Uni (not far from you Mod) I just can't seem to stop feeling guilty about everything from leaving the children and not spending enough time with them to neglecting my husband and the list goes on and on :doh

Tish

oh i don't think she feels guilty, its been her dream since she was a kid to be a doc, but just as her dream comes true, she comes to the uk and has to do more exams and time wasting :censored

Salford Uni, i know the place well, i go past it on my way to work :icon_lol:

i went to SCOFE (salford college) right next to it, before that became part of Salford Uni.

you know how hard it is Tish to study, work and look after a family.. I told her she can go back to the phils when she passes her exam, its been 4 long years since shes been back :icon_lol:, maybe shes a bit motivated for the last exam :D

[Tish]

oh i don't think she feels guilty, its been her dream since she was a kid to be a doc, but just as her dream comes true, she comes to the uk and has to do more exams and time wasting :censored

Salford Uni, i know the place well, i go past it on my way to work :icon_lol:

i went to SCOFE (salford college) right next to it, before that became part of Salford Uni.

you know how hard it is Tish to study, work and look after a family.. I told her she can go back to the phils when she passes her exam, its been 4 long years since shes been back :icon_lol:, maybe shes a bit motivated for the last exam :D

I had no educational background when I left Philippines nearly 20 years ago, apart from finishing Elementary/Primary School, so I had to start from scratch here just to get to Uni. So it was so tough on me, well it's still tough now. But well worth it.

I won't be earning as much as your missis when she qualifies, but to earn more than twice as much as the minimum wage is still good to me, considering i started from a £3.15 an hour as a production line worker when I first arrived!

My husband do wonder why I still ask him for money now and again though :Erm: Damn Philippines:NoNo:

Tish

[joebloggs]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: to you tish..

better than sitting at home watching tv, getting know where :rolleyes:


SHO pay is not that much you know :NoNo:

only way she could make decent money is train as a consultant, more time and exams, also places are few :cwm24:, not sure she has the will power for that any more :D

as for sending the money to the phils dont i know it, like a black hole, sucks everything in :cwm24:

[Tish]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: to you tish..

better than sitting at home watching tv, getting know where :rolleyes:


SHO pay is not that much you know :NoNo:

only way she could make decent money is train as a consultant, more time and exams, also places are few :cwm24:, not sure she has the will power for that any more :D

as for sending the money to the phils dont i know it, like a black hole, sucks everything in :cwm24:

I'm quite happy with my progression on the "ladder", and will be content to just end up on top Band 7 when I retire to be honest.

And you're right Mod about Phil being a black hole sucking everything in! :angry: But not anymore :NoNo: For me anyway.

Tish

[joebloggs]

my misses on band 3 at the mo :doh

but 7 would be good :rolleyes:, 50" plasma tv :rolleyes:

:icon_lol:

[Tish]

my misses on band 3 at the mo :doh

but 7 would be good :rolleyes:, 50" plasma tv :rolleyes:

:icon_lol:

But she won't be on Band 3 for much longer especially with all that effort she's putting in :cwm12:

Tish

[tiger@tigress]

That's the only thing i love about being a Marketing/Documentation Manager... Attending exhibits :D Everything's free. Transportation, nice and good Hotel to stay in, allowance and meals in an expensive restaurants with clients. Plus sneeking out to bars and discos at night :xxgrinning--00xx3:
well, I do hope I can find a job easily, when Isaac is older to go to school. No matter what job it is as long as it's decent.
I guess your boss saw your potentials giving you a better position :xxgrinning--00xx3: That's what filipinas are, can work anywhere and any kind of job.


Do You join Manila FAME show April and October? If you do we prob know each other.... We also join Canton and Hongkong... Don't worry you will at the right time.... :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Florge]

I asked for one from Cambridge and I made up the neuropsychopharmacogeneticist subject,nowadays when I am at a BBQ and someone asked what did I study I just casually throw in "Neuropsychopharmacogenetics" :icon_lol:Instead of saying "What the f*cks that??????"and appearing stupid they normally say "Oh,interesting" and change the topic of conversation :icon_lol::icon_lol:
Daves right,you can buy degrees in pinas,or your families influence and power can get you one :rolleyes:

LOL... nice one.

I would have to agree with you on this though.. that diplomas can be bought in Recto.. maybe some can buy degrees... but if you have an influential family who can buy you a degree, the school is most likely those that are thriving and would definitely need the donation... :NoNo:

[adam&chryss]

Do You join Manila FAME show April and October? If you do we prob know each other.... We also join Canton and Hongkong... Don't worry you will at the right time.... :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Joined the Furniture Show in World Trade Centre held every April. I'm not just positive if they are still doing it now there. Because that was wayback 7-9years ago :D

Thanks btw! :)