Anybody fancy doing a puzzle???

[Pepe n Pilar]

What are the next three numbers in the following sequence:

8, 11, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 10…
There is a definite relationship between the numbers….but what is it?

:)

[Sophie]

What are the next three numbers in the following sequence:

8, 11, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 10…
There is a definite relationship between the numbers….but what is it?

:)

Lol, need to refresh my math ability (like i got one, lol) :Erm::Erm::D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

[bornatbirth]

:Erm:

it took me 5 seconds before i gave in!

come on,whats the answer??

[darren-b]

What are the next three numbers in the following sequence:

8, 11, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 10…
There is a definite relationship between the numbers….but what is it?

:)

The answer you are probably after is 3, 12, 2 though it could be 3, 13, 12 instead.

[adam&chryss]

my answer is 12, 9, 8 or could be 10, 9, 8

I'm sure 2nd and third numbers are 9 and 8.

Hope i got it right!

[pennybarry]

My answers are
12,3 and 2:D

[aryM]

my answer is 2, 9, 8 not sure yet.,will analyze more.lol

[adam&chryss]

13, 9, 8 also a possible answer :icon_lol:

[nigel]

8 + 11 = 19 + 5 + 4 = Nigels cr*p at maths!:icon_lol:

[tiN]

8 + 11 = 19 + 5 + 4 = Nigels cr*p at maths!:icon_lol:

:doh:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Im guessing, 3, 12, 2:D:D:D

[Pepe n Pilar]

3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)

Here's another one. What number is missing from the bottom line?

4/61
5/52
6/63
7/94
8/46
9/??

Mr P&P

[tiN]

3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)



:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

got it right uhoo!!!!!!

[adam&chryss]

The answer you are probably after is 3, 12, 2 though it could be 3, 13, 12 instead.


:doh:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Im guessing, 3, 12, 2:D:D:D


3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)

Here's another one. What number is missing from the bottom line?

4/61
5/52
6/63
7/94
8/46
9/??

Mr P&P


:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

got it right uhoo!!!!!!

gj!!! :BouncyHappy:

got it wrong.. i need to refresh my brain :Brick:

[adam&chryss]

3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)

Here's another one. What number is missing from the bottom line?

4/61
5/52
6/63
7/94
8/46
9/??

Mr P&P


answer is 18

is it right?

[Bluebirdjones]

4/61 4 x 4 = 16 So, answer reversed
5/52 5 x 5 = 25 ----//----


9/18 9 x 9 = 81

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Well done! 18 is the right answer. Obviously I will have to try to think of something a bit more taxing. :)

Mr P&P

[Sophie]

Well done! 18 is the right answer. Obviously I will have to try to think of something a bit more taxing. :)

Mr P&P

oh gee :ARsurrender::ARsurrender::ARsurrender::D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Sophie]

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

got it right uhoo!!!!!!

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Sophie]

answer is 18

is it right?

galing ah :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::D:D

[pennybarry]

3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)

Here's another one. What number is missing from the bottom line?

4/61
5/52
6/63
7/94
8/46
9/??

Mr P&P


I got correct answer!!!!:omg::omg::omg:

So I'm still good in Math:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I took Skills for Life course here and it's all about Math and English.
My Math grade was 95 while English was only 82:icon_lol:

My teacher said I'm good in Math:action-smiley-081: but everytime I took my examination, I felt headache. I feel my brain get Twisting.

I will not answer the last one if no congrats:D Too hard to think answers :icon_lol::Rasp:

[tiN]

answer is 18

is it right?

This time u got it!!!:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

The answer you are probably after is 3, 12, 2 though it could be 3, 13, 12 instead.


My answers are
12,3 and 2:D


:doh:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Im guessing, 3, 12, 2:D:D:D


answer is 18

is it right?


4/61 4 x 4 = 16 So, answer reversed
5/52 5 x 5 = 25 ----//----


9/18 9 x 9 = 81

:xxgrinning--00xx3:


I got correct answer!!!!:omg::omg::omg:

So I'm still good in Math:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I took Skills for Life course here and it's all about Math and English.
My Math grade was 95 while English was only 82:icon_lol:

My teacher said I'm good in Math:action-smiley-081: but everytime I took my examination, I felt headache. I feel my brain get Twisting.

I will not answer the last one if no congrats:D Too hard to think answers :icon_lol::Rasp:

Thanks to all who replied.:xxgrinning--00xx3:That was Mr P&P doing the puzzle tests on you...He got loads of them..Watch for it:D

That's good Penny you got a high grade in Math.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
There's a saying in the Phils if English is the major subject then Math is the minor and vice versa. Do you agree on that?
My mum was very good on both English and Math. I remember she taught us in our Math subjects and Statistics... and perfect grammar as well.. I wish i had followed her footsteps!....

Cheers!:)

[pennybarry]

That's good Penny you got a high grade in Math.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
There's a saying in the Phils if English is the major subject then Math is the minor and vice versa. Do you agree on that?
My mum was very good on both English and Math. I remember she taught us in our Math subjects and Statistics... and perfect grammar as well.. I wish i had followed her footsteps!....

Cheers!:)

Thanks Yeh! I agree with you as I have classmate who is always panic with numbers but she speaks excellent and fluent english so she took medicine and now she's somebody in our town.
My Mom is good in Math much better than anybody of us because she can count thru mental calculation. She doesn't know how to use calcu.:D At 81 she can still do mental calculation:)

[nigel]

Hey! You can't count letters!:icon_lol: You can only count numbers!:doh

:icon_lol::icon_lol: ok then what is U + F - G x R ? :Erm:

I am joking! :icon_lol:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Thanks Yeh! I agree with you as I have classmate who is always panic with numbers but she speaks excellent and fluent english so she took medicine and now she's somebody in our town.
My Mom is good in Math much better than anybody of us because she can count thru mental calculation. She doesn't know how to use calcu.:D At 81 she can still do mental calculation:)

She was poor in Math but now a Doctor?:Erm: I just hope she won't get confused with the prescriptions she gives out to her patients. Like the difference of "ml" from "mg".
ML (milliliters) use to measure liquid volume. e.g. 5ml = 1 tsp.
MG (milligrams) use to measure weight. (1,000 of a gram)
Very small amounts of medicine in a mixture.
e.g. 10 mg of active ingredient in a pill.

[pennybarry]

She was poor in Math but now a Doctor?:Erm: I just hope she won't get confused with the prescriptions she gives out to her patients. Like the difference of "ml" from "mg".
ML (milliliters) use to measure liquid volume. e.g. 5ml = 1 tsp.
MG (milligrams) use to measure weight. (1,000 of a gram)
Very small amounts of medicine in a mixture.
e.g. 10 mg of active ingredient in a pill.


Measurement and scales are just elementary to others. The hardest for me is Calculus:doh

Although she's panic, it doesn't mean she can't understands measurement. And I didn't say she is poor in Math exactly. She's just panicking with numbers:D:Rasp:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Awwww panicking in Math!... I remember my mum said whenever she was given problems to solve in Math or anything that has to do with numbers she was so excited and so happy to give the answers:xxgrinning--00xx3:, she never panics. She said once a person panics or is frightened by those problem solving or whatever abt Math then he/she is not that good in Math bec if he/she is good she will never panic!:D:Hellooo:

[pennybarry]

Awwww panicking in Math!... I remember my mum said whenever she was given problems to solve in Math or anything that has to do with numbers she was so excited and so happy to give the answers:xxgrinning--00xx3:, she never panics. She said once a person panics or is frightened by those problem solving or whatever abt Math then he/she is not that good in Math bec if he/she is good she will never panic!:D:Hellooo:

That is the thing you need to explain to your MOM. Tell her being panic is just like a math anxiety and it doesn't mean you are poor in Math. You can share this to your Mom if your Mom is a teacher or she teaches you.

Math anxiety or fear of math is actually quite common. Math anxiety is quite similar to stagefright. Why does someone suffer stagefright? Fear of something going wrong in front of a crowd? Fear of forgetting the lines? Fear of being judged poorly? Fear of going completely blank? Math anxiety conjures up fear of some type. The fear that one won't be able to do the math or the fear that it's too hard or the fear of failure which often stems from having a lack of confidence. For the most part, math anxiety is the fear about doing the math right, our minds draw a blank and we think we'll fail and of course the more frustrated and anxious our minds become, the greater the chance for drawing blanks. Added pressure of having time limits on math tests and exams also cause the levels of anxiety grow for many students.

Where Does Math Anxiety Come From?

Usually math anxiety stems from unpleasant experiences in mathematics. Typically math phobics have had math presented in such a fashion that it led to limited understanding. Unfortunately, math anxiety is often due to poor teaching and poor experiences in math which typically leads to math anxiety. Many of the students I've encountered with math anxiety have demonstrated an over reliance on procedures in math as opposed to actually understanding the math. When one tries to memorize procedures, rules and routines without much understanding, the math is quickly forgotten and panic soons sets in. Think about your experiences with one concept - the division of fractions. You probably learned about reciprocals and inverses. In other words, 'It's not yours to reason why, just invert and multiply'. Well, you memorized the rule and it works. Why does it work? Do you really understand why it works? Did anyone every use pizzas or math manipulatives to show you why it works? If not, you simply memorized the procedure and that was that. Think of math as memorizing all the procedures - what if you forget a few? Therefore, with this type of strategy, a good memory will help, but, what if you dont' have a good memory. Understanding the math is critical. Once students realize they can do the math, the whole notion of math anxiety can be overcome. Teachers and parents have an important role to ensure students understand the math being presented to them.

By: Deb Russell:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

My answers are
12,3 and 2:D

Sorry the correct answer is 3,12 and 2... You have interchanged the numbers

[Pepe n Pilar]

You guys are obviously too good at the basic maths puzzles. Hope this one will keep you busy for a bit longer.

Here is the problem.

•You are in a room with 10 cases, each containing 20 metal bars.
•Nine of the cases contain bars of worthless base metal that looks like gold and one case contains bars of solid gold.
•You know that each bar of base metal weighs exactly 1 pound and each gold bar weighs one pound and one ounce.
•There is an electronic scale in the room, but it can only be used once and will flash the weight for only 5 seconds.
•You have no other equipment.
•You may leave the room with one case, which is yours to keep.
•How do you pick the right case?

Remember, you are looking for a mathematical solution so no questions please about whether the bars are painted, or feel different, or if there is a way to use the scales more than once, etc.

Good luck.

Mr P&P

[Alan]

The hardest for me is Calculus:doh

Calculus is just as easy as any other branch of mathematics if you understand the concept, Penny.
People have asked me before for help with Maths and English but it has been impractical.
However, soon I hope to have my 'Online Teaching Website' open.

I have also been sitting here reading some of the comments about maths. Very sensible thoughts - especially about how maths is taught.

Al.:)

[Pepe n Pilar]

Hi Prof Alan,
I'm glad you're here... I thought you have the answer... Looking forward to that Sir Alan.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
BTW give my regards to Hannah..:)

[nigel]

Calculus is just as easy as any other branch of mathematics if you understand the concept, Penny.
People have asked me before for help with Maths and English but it has been impractical.
However, soon I hope to have my 'Online Teaching Website' open.

I have also been sitting here reading some of the comments about maths. Very sensible thoughts - especially about how maths is taught.

Al.:)
What is the use in using algebra and pythagorous thereom? I'm 37, I didn't need it yet..:rolleyes:

[Alan]

Hi Prof Alan,
I'm glad you're here... I thought you have the answer... Looking forward to that Sir Alan.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
BTW give my regards to Hannah..:)

Thank you Shelly. I shall pass your message on.

Al.:)

[Jay&Zobel]

Hehe... I hate mind games lol...
But I love chess :Erm::Cuckoo: :Erm::D

Eversince I've studied accountancy, I never ever trust my own calculation using my mind. I ALWAYS USE CALCULATOR, BECAUSE IT IS TOO RISKY TO COMMIT MISTAKE especially at work. Needs to be accurate all the time. Mistake is not an option hehe... But of course, lol "It's still you who's typing the numbers, but using calculators/spreadsheets is less errors made" hehe... (If you know what I mean):xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::D

[Alan]

What is the use in using algebra and pythagorous thereom? I'm 37, I didn't need it yet..:rolleyes:

Hi Nigel. Glad to answer your questions.

Algebra can be used in most mathematical areas and there are literally thousands of jobs that use mathematics.

Pythagorus is used by such people as engineers, pilots and navigators, to name but a few.

More power to your hypoteneuse!!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

[Sophie]

Hehe... I hate mind games lol...
But I love chess :Erm::Cuckoo: :Erm::D

Eversince I've studied accountancy, I never ever trust my own calculation using my mind. I ALWAYS USE CALCULATOR, BECAUSE IT IS TOO RISKY TO COMMIT MISTAKE especially at work.

LOL, tell me about it :xxgrinning--00xx3: being in accounting myself as well, i'm too dependent on calculators, lol :doh:NoNo: oh well :D:D:D:D

[Sophie]

Hi Nigel. Glad to answer your questions.

Algebra can be used in most mathematical areas and there are literally thousands of jobs that use mathematics.

Pythagorus is used by such people as engineers, pilots and navigators, to name but a few.

More power to your hypoteneuse!!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

here comes the prof :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[pennybarry]

Sorry the correct answer is 3,12 and 2... You have interchanged the numbers

Did u say it must be in order? Anyway it's alright. I accept if answer is wrong for you:). Just strange you said correct and now wrong ehehe what made u carefully check?

Just tell your Mom about her wrong belief about Math panic/ math anxiety. That will really help us. My sis, who is a teacher for 25 yrs always tell me that not because we have phobia in Math, English, Science and other subject means you are poor in that subject. That's also the views of math experts.:xxgrinning--00xx3:



Calculus is just as easy as any other branch of mathematics if you understand the concept, Penny.
People have asked me before for help with Maths and English but it has been impractical.
However, soon I hope to have my 'Online Teaching Website' open.

I have also been sitting here reading some of the comments about maths. Very sensible thoughts - especially about how maths is taught.

Al.:)


Sir,
Calculus is confusing because of numbers and unknown symbols that makes me panic.

I will enrol to your website :xxgrinning--00xx3: I also wish to refresh my Spanish course. Yo hablo un poco. :doh Por favor señor y muchos gracias:D

Thanks for your comment!

[Pepe n Pilar]

3, 12, 2 is the correct answer. :) For the benefit of those who are still scratching their heads - it is the numbers from one to twelve arranged in alphabetical order. :)


Mr P&P


I got correct answer!!!!:omg::omg::omg:

[SIZE="3"]So I'm still good in Math:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I took Skills for Life course here and it's all about Math and English.
My Math grade was 95

Very impressive!!!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Looking forward to your answers to this latest quiz.

Thank you.
Mr P&P

[Pepe n Pilar]

To Penny,

Thanks for the input but she already has passed away:bigcry:. I also have read about some students who has phobia, panicking, has their brain twisted or simply having headaches once solving Math problems are not that bad in that subject. They're still students and so therefore still learning. Not so sure if these are applied to Math tutors, Professional Mathematicians or Math teachers. As i've said in my post "how i wish i had followed her footsteps"... i'm not that good in Math:bigcry::bigcry:

I'm impressed you got 95 in your Math subject!:xxgrinning--00xx3:.... looking forward to your answers to the upcoming Math problem solving.

Best of luck.

Cheers!:)

[charlwill]

Did u say it must be in order? Anyway it's alright. I accept if answer is wrong for you:). Just strange you said correct and now wrong ehehe what made u carefully check?

Just tell your Mom about her wrong belief about Math panic/ math anxiety. That will really help us. My sis, who is a teacher for 25 yrs always tell me that not because we have phobia in Math, English, Science and other subject means you are poor in that subject. That's also the views of math experts.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

As far as I can remember teacher from Kindergarten, Primary, Secondary, and Intermediate they always emphasize that in Math specially in solving problems the answer must be in ORDER and it's proper place. It's not in scramble order. So, I think there is one simple RULE in Math all the answers it MUST be in order all the time. Because if not, your answer will be wrong. Formula is a formula, and you can never scramble your answer or else everything is wrong.

[Pepe n Pilar]

Awwww panicking in Math!... I remember my mum said whenever she was given problems to solve in Math or anything that has to do with numbers she was so excited and so happy to give the answers:xxgrinning--00xx3:, she never panics. She said once a person panics or is frightened by those problem solving or whatever abt Math then he/she is not that good in Math bec if he/she is good she will never panic!:D:Hellooo:

not that good in tagalog means hinde gaano magaling....I used the word panic bec she never did because she was a professional Mathematician. Perhaps some panics bec they are still learning (STUDENTS). How will an author of a Math book panics? If our professor/tutor/teacher in Math panics then what will happen? Pls enlighten me on this....


Did u say it must be in order? Anyway it's alright. I accept if answer is wrong for you:). Just strange you said correct and now wrong ehehe what made u carefully check?

Just tell your Mom about her wrong belief about Math panic/ math anxiety.

Even if your Math teacher won't tell you that answers should be in order it must be. SHOULD BE IN ORDER ALL THE TIME. You should know that as you got 95 in Math. I am not that good...:Brick:
So i made "double checking" on your answers.... and noticed it was interchanged...:NoNo:

[Pepe n Pilar]

What is the use in using algebra and pythagorous thereom? I'm 37, I didn't need it yet..:rolleyes:

Prof Alan had answered this...:xxgrinning--00xx3: Now where's your answer to my post number 30?:)
you must be good in Math!:xxgrinning--00xx3:


Hi Nigel. Glad to answer your questions.

Algebra can be used in most mathematical areas and there are literally thousands of jobs that use mathematics.

Pythagorus is used by such people as engineers, pilots and navigators, to name but a few.

More power to your hypoteneuse!!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

good answer Prof. Alan:xxgrinning--00xx3:


LOL, tell me about it :xxgrinning--00xx3: being in accounting myself as well, i'm too dependent on calculators, lol :doh:NoNo: oh well :D:D:D:D

Yeah i remember during my Accounting subjects we're so dependent on calculators. Other subjects like quantitative math and Stats and during our high school days, subjects like , trigo..huh!...:Brick::bigcry:. I'm not that good really:Help1:


As far as I can remember teacher from Kindergarten, Primary, Secondary, and Intermediate they always emphasize that in Math specially in solving problems the answer must be in ORDER and it's proper place. It's not in scramble order. So, I think there is one simple RULES in Math all the answers it MUST be in order all the time. Because if not, your answer will be wrong. Formula is a formula, and you can never scramble your answer or else everything is wrong.

Thanks for your reply Ma'm Charlwill....I definitely agree...:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Not scramble as in "chopsuey and halo-halo":Erm:also used in tagalog expressions...

[Pepe n Pilar]

The answer you are probably after is 3, 12, 2 though it could be 3, 13, 12 instead.


:Erm:

it took me 5 seconds before i gave in!

come on,whats the answer??


my answer is 12, 9, 8 or could be 10, 9, 8

I'm sure 2nd and third numbers are 9 and 8.

Hope i got it right!


my answer is 2, 9, 8 not sure yet.,will analyze more.lol


8 + 11 = 19 + 5 + 4 = Nigels cr*p at maths!:icon_lol:

Thank you for your replies. It's ok if you didn't get it right. Pls do try to answer the next upcoming quizzes...
To darren-b you got it right but you just have to choose one answer.
Thanks.

Best of luck to all of you
:)

[pennybarry]

Very impressive!!!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Looking forward to your answers to this latest quiz.

Thank you.
Mr P&P

Wow I had only one reply and got three replies from you:omg:

Pag di po ako pinag-iinitan ng teacher babalik po ako sa eskuwela:xxgrinning--00xx3:


To Penny,

I'm impressed you got 95 in your Math subject!:xxgrinning--00xx3:.... looking forward to your answers to the upcoming Math problem solving.

Cheers!:)

Hmmm Am I a teacher's pet here? :icon_lol: I don't want to comeback to school Mam, I don't really like my classmates:CompBuster:


not that good in tagalog means hinde gaano magaling....I used the word panic bec she never did because she was a professional Mathematician. Perhaps some panics bec they are still learning (STUDENTS). How will an author of a Math book panics? If our professor/tutor/teacher in Math panics then what will happen? Pls enlighten me on this....


Even if your Math teacher won't tell you that answers should be in order it must be. SHOULD BE IN ORDER ALL THE TIME. You should know that as you got 95 in Math. I am not that good...:Brick:
So i made "double checking" on your answers.... and noticed it was interchanged...:NoNo:


Had already explained about panics in my past post to your thread.

[pennybarry]

Thanks for your reply Ma'm Charlwill....I definitely agree...:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Not scramble as in "chopsuey and halo-halo":Erm:also used in tagalog expressions...

Hmmm sounds food again and cooking:D Hoping your math subject will not turn into Home Economics. :Rasp::Rasp::Rasp: Is that the right terms?

[Mrs.JMajor]

Hmmm Am I a teacher's pet here? :icon_lol: I don't want to comeback to school Mam, I don't really like my classmates:CompBuster:.:action-smiley-081:


Pag di po ako pinag-iinitan ng teacher babalik po ako sa eskuwela:xxgrinning--00xx3::CompBuster:.:icon_lol::action-smiley-081:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Wow I had only one reply and got three replies from you:omg:

Pag di po ako pinag-iinitan ng teacher babalik po ako sa eskuwela:xxgrinning--00xx3:



Hmmm Am I a teacher's pet here? :icon_lol: I don't want to comeback to school Mam, I don't really like my classmates:CompBuster:




Had already explained about panics in my past post to your thread.


So much of diverting the topic Ms Penny. I'm looking forward to your answer to post # 30:xxgrinning--00xx3:. You're really good in Math, no doubt about it you got 95!!!....:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

Cheers!:)

[Florge]

You guys are obviously too good at the basic maths puzzles. Hope this one will keep you busy for a bit longer.

Here is the problem.

•You are in a room with 10 cases, each containing 20 metal bars.
•Nine of the cases contain bars of worthless base metal that looks like gold and one case contains bars of solid gold.
•You know that each bar of base metal weighs exactly 1 pound and each gold bar weighs one pound and one ounce.
•There is an electronic scale in the room, but it can only be used once and will flash the weight for only 5 seconds.
•You have no other equipment.
•You may leave the room with one case, which is yours to keep.
•How do you pick the right case?

Remember, you are looking for a mathematical solution so no questions please about whether the bars are painted, or feel different, or if there is a way to use the scales more than once, etc.

Good luck.

Mr P&P

NOSEBLEED!!!! lol... i'm soooo glad I took Comm Arts.. less Math (just Algebra and Trigo) and no Calculus (thank God!) :Hellooo::Hellooo::Hellooo:

[Jay&Zobel]

As far as I can remember teacher from Kindergarten, Primary, Secondary, and Intermediate they always emphasize that in Math specially in solving problems the answer must be in ORDER and it's proper place. It's not in scramble order. So, I think there is one simple RULE in Math all the answers it MUST be in order all the time. Because if not, your answer will be wrong. Formula is a formula, and you can never scramble your answer or else everything is wrong.

Definitely agree with you!! :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:


NOSEBLEED!!!! lol... i'm soooo glad I took Comm Arts.. less Math (just Algebra and Trigo) and no Calculus (thank God!) :Hellooo::Hellooo::Hellooo:

Hehehe... NOSEBLEEEEEEDDDD NGA HEHEHE... sino kaya Math genius dito to answer that? :Erm:

[Alan]

OK - as a maths teacher myself, I have read this thread with much interest.

Please allow me these comments - and these are my personal opinions based on experience - so, I am not saying that the following comments are 'globally acceptable' ones.

Firstly, mathematics is the ONLY purely LOGICAL science in the world. Even physics has a 'what if' syndrome to it - for example - 'what if we could travel in time?'

Secondly, the whole 'language' of mathematics revolves around the manipulation of JUST 10 DIGITS!!! How easy can that be??

Thirdly, children, adolescents and adults are 'afraid' of mathematics simply because of the way they have been taught!!! I once heard at a conference the epithet: 'There are an awful lot of maths teachers out there, and there are a lot of awful maths teachers out there.'

The above, in my opinion, is SOOOO true!!!! I have seen teachers, when I have been observing, who have made me cringe when they try to explain mathematical concepts to students!!!!!

Fourthly, to relate to comments made on this thread, please believe me on this - 'YOU MUST DO MATHS IN THE RIGHT ORDER OTHERWISE IT WILL BE WRONG' NO - I'm sorry, this is not correct! Comments like this (remember, in my opinion,) eminate from BAD maths teachers. Mathematics is not about the 'what' - it is about the 'HOW!'
When you understand HOW things work in mathematics, it does not matter in what order you calculate - IN FACT - if you understand the 'how' you have more or less done the calculation anyway.

I admit that, however, ONLY SOME of the time, the order is important - but only in a 'logical'sense.

Perhaps I am confusing some of you here. It would, of course, take me infinitely longer than this small post to fully expound my comments - I LOVE teaching mathematics, because it allows me to show people how badly they have been taught in the past - and consequently why they 'fear' mathematics.

Please don't misunderstand this post. I am NOT saying that I know all the answers or that I am a brilliant maths teacher. I am simply saying that I believe that a lot of so-called maths teachers have a lot to answer for - for assuming that their students know what the hell they are talking about.

ANY TEACHER in ANY SUBJECT must consider the student first and foremost. Sadly, this is not the truth!!

Al.:)

[Jay&Zobel]

OK - as a maths teacher myself, I have read this thread with much interest.

Please allow me these comments - and these are my personal opinions based on experience - so, I am not saying that the following comments are 'globally acceptable' ones.

Fourthly, to relate to comments made on this thread, please believe me on this - 'YOU MUST DO MATHS IN THE RIGHT ORDER OTHERWISE IT WILL BE WRONG' NO - I'm sorry, this is not correct! Comments like this (remember, in my opinion,) eminate from BAD maths teachers. Mathematics is not about the 'what' - it is about the 'HOW!'
When you understand HOW things work in mathematics, it does not matter in what order you calculate - IN FACT - if you understand the 'how' you have more or less done the calculation anyway.

I admit that, however, ONLY SOME of the time, the order is important - but only in a 'logical'sense.


Al.:)


Hi Sir:

Think you mind find this interesting:
http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol7/order_operations.html
Based from the problem that:
"It seems that each student interpreted the problem differently, resulting in two different answers.
Student 1 performed the operation of addition first, then multiplication; whereas
student 2 performed multiplication first, then addition.

When performing arithmetic operations there can be only one correct answer. We need a set of rules in order to avoid this kind of confusion. Mathematicians have devised a standard order of operations for calculations involving more than one arithmetic operation."

---------

Therefore, if not properly done and rules were not followed, there will be different answers given to a problem.


Also it has been said that:
"Mathematics is the exact science of mathematical reasoning and related aspects of mathematical practice.

Math has the advantage of being irrefutable."

[Alan]

Exactly!!!!

When you present the student with:

3 + 4 x 2

the student must know the HOW!!!

And knowing the how, the student will say 3 + 8 - OR 8 + 3.

The confusion here stems from the PRESENTATION of the problem - an unnecessary stupefication of logicality.

Al.:)

[Pepe n Pilar]

3 + (4 x 2) = 3 + 8 = 11

(3 + 4) x 2 = 7 x 2 = 14

So if there's confusion on understanding the instruction given by the teacher (especially if the problem is stated verbally and not written) then the student will arrive at a wrong answer.

The first puzzle was asking for 3 numbers which should be arranged in alphabetical order because the solution states that they are arranged in alphabetical. The 'correct' answer, therefore, should be in that order as well.

The inputs given here are appreciated. Thank you. We are posting puzzles to solve, pls give your answers, no matter how you solve them, it's your choice how you do it, just give the answers and your logic.

The intention was to entertain not to start a war about mathematics. However, despite what some have said it is not always an 'exact' science. There are numerous paradoxes and how can any science be exact when the value of an important constant such as Pi has never been evaluated to 100% accuracy.

And as regards those who say they never use algebra or calculus they actually use them every day. Every time they calculate the length of a piece of wood required to fill a gap or how much to charge for a product to make a specific profit, that is basically algebra. And everytime they work out how many tiles are required to fill an irregular shape such as an oval they are actually using integral calculus (just without the formula).

I could discuss mathematics all day, but I'd rather someone just tried to solve the puzzles.:)

Thank you.
Mr P&P

[pennybarry]

So much of diverting the topic Ms Penny. I'm looking forward to your answer to post # 30:xxgrinning--00xx3:. You're really good in Math, no doubt about it you got 95!!!....:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

Cheers!:)

Lol! Sounds like you're insulting me everytime you mentioned my 95 grade in Math. It's also sounds you're forcing me to answer that #30. What will gonna happen if I will not answer that question? How if I answered it right?

Can I just say I can't answer this questions to make other girls happy and have harmonous in this thread? I don't want to see black letters turn into RED ehehhehe. That means angry?

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=16015&page=3 post#80

Or it is much better to challenge all accountants here to show our transcript of Records and result of Certified Public Accountant Board Exam?

Anyway I'm almost late with my work so I'll answer it even not yet complete . Making money is more important to me.


If you have 10 cases/box, put letters to boxes/cases - Box A Box B Box C... Box J or any mark that will suits you so you will not be confused

Take bars from each box (box a to Box J)

You can put all together in a scale and get the measurement and deduct the all the 1 pd 1 ounce (Gold weight). It will give you an answer.

To be continued:D



[I][B]
Even if your Math teacher won't tell you that answers should be in order it must be. SHOULD BE IN ORDER ALL THE TIME. You should know that as you got 95 in Math. I am not that good...:Brick:
So i made "double checking" on your answers.... and noticed it was interchanged...:NoNo:

Sorry, I cannot believe you on this. Would rather believe now with more highly professional.



OK
Fourthly, to relate to comments made on this thread, please believe me on this - 'YOU MUST DO MATHS IN THE RIGHT ORDER OTHERWISE IT WILL BE WRONG' NO - I'm sorry, this is not correct! Comments like this (remember, in my opinion,) eminate from BAD maths teachers. Mathematics is not about the 'what' - it is about the 'HOW!'
When you understand HOW things work in mathematics, it does not matter in what order you calculate - IN FACT - if you understand the 'how' you have more or less done the calculation anyway.

Al.:)

I agree with your opinion Sir because when I answered that math question, It's just like find the missing numbers for me. So I put the missing numbers in it's place.

But to make other girls happy, I will accept my answer was wrong although it was not explained how my answer became wrong in my own satisfaction.

[Florge]

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=16015&page=3 post#80




Oh.. this is my post!!! hehehe... thanks for quoting it... glad to know this was noticed...

[Pepe n Pilar]

What are the next three numbers in the following sequence:

8, 11, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 10…
There is a definite relationship between the numbers….but what is it?

:)

To Illustrate:

8 11 5 4 9 1 7 6 10

EIGHT ELEVEN FIVE FOUR NINE ONE SEVEN SIX TEN


CORRECT ANSWERS:

3 12 2

THREE TWELVE TWO

Now if the answer is : 12, 3, 2 then it is wrong because

TWELVE THREE TWO - is not arranged alphabetical anymore.

TWE TH TWO

:Hellooo:

[KeithD]

8 11 5 4 9 1 7 6 10
Thanks for this weeks Lotto numbers :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Thanks for this weeks Lotto numbers :xxgrinning--00xx3:


:icon_lol::Rasp::Brick::Cuckoo::CompBuster::BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy:

[Mrs.JMajor]

Anyway I'm almost late with my work so I'll answer it even not yet complete . Making money is more important to me.


If you have 10 cases/box, put letters to boxes/cases - Box A Box B Box C... Box J or any mark that will suits you so you will not be confused

Take bars from each box (box a to Box J)

You can put all together in a scale and get the measurement and deduct the all the 1 pd 1 ounce (Gold weight). It will give you an answer.

To be continued:D
Are you not gonna bring your husband also to help you answer the question friendship:icon_lol::action-smiley-081:

I am not good in math, but my business is always adding % in capital :yikes:

[charlwill]

You guys are obviously too good at the basic maths puzzles. Hope this one will keep you busy for a bit longer.

Here is the problem.

•You are in a room with 10 cases, each containing 20 metal bars.
•Nine of the cases contain bars of worthless base metal that looks like gold and one case contains bars of solid gold.
•You know that each bar of base metal weighs exactly 1 pound and each gold bar weighs one pound and one ounce.
•There is an electronic scale in the room, but it can only be used once and will flash the weight for only 5 seconds.
•You have no other equipment.
•You may leave the room with one case, which is yours to keep.
•How do you pick the right case?

Remember, you are looking for a mathematical solution so no questions please about whether the bars are painted, or feel different, or if there is a way to use the scales more than once, etc.

Good luck.

Mr P&P

I will try my very best to answer the puzzle. Hhmmm.

Here is the solution.

1. Lay the boxes out on the floor in order from 1 to 10

2. Take one bar from box 1, 2 bars from box 2, 3 bars from box 3, etc. all the way up to 10 bars from box 10 (55 bars in total)

3. Place all these bars on the scale and press the button to get the total weight.

4.If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 1 oz, the gold bars are in box 1 (as there is only one bar on the scale that weighs 1 ib and 1 oz)

If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 2 oz, the gold bars are in box 2 (as there are two bars on the scale that weigh 1 ib and 1 oz)

If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 3 oz, the gold bars are in box 3 (as there are three bars on the scale that weigh 1 ib and 1 oz)
etc.

In that way you have the idea which case to keep. :Cuckoo: :cwm12: :BouncyHappy: :D

[Pepe n Pilar]

I will try my very best to answer the puzzle. Hhmmm.

Here is the solution.

1. Lay the boxes out on the floor in order from 1 to 10

2. Take one bar from box 1, 2 bars from box 2, 3 bars from box 3, etc. all the way up to 10 bars from box 10 (55 bars in total)

3. Place all these bars on the scale and press the button to get the total weight.

4.If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 1 oz, the gold bars are in box 1 (as there is only one bar on the scale that weighs 1 ib and 1 oz)

If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 2 oz, the gold bars are in box 2 (as there are two bars on the scale that weigh 1 ib and 1 oz)

If the total weight shown is 55 lbs and 3 oz, the gold bars are in box 3 (as there are three bars on the scale that weigh 1 ib and 1 oz)
etc.

In that way you have the idea which case to keep. :Cuckoo: :cwm12: :BouncyHappy: :D

Well done Charlwill!...:xxgrinning--00xx3: More puzzles to come....
Enjoy !....:D

Thank you.
Mr P&P

Cheers!:)

[GaryFifer]

You guys are obviously too good at the basic maths puzzles. Hope this one will keep you busy for a bit longer.

Here is the problem.

•You are in a room with 10 cases, each containing 20 metal bars.
•Nine of the cases contain bars of worthless base metal that looks like gold and one case contains bars of solid gold.
•You know that each bar of base metal weighs exactly 1 pound and each gold bar weighs one pound and one ounce.
•There is an electronic scale in the room, but it can only be used once and will flash the weight for only 5 seconds.
•You have no other equipment.
•You may leave the room with one case, which is yours to keep.
•How do you pick the right case?

Remember, you are looking for a mathematical solution so no questions please about whether the bars are painted, or feel different, or if there is a way to use the scales more than once, etc.

Good luck.

Mr P&P

See you imperial oldies! We are metric now so I had to check up!

If X = 1 pound thats 16 oz (because 16 oz in 1 pounds)
Y= 1.1 pound thats 17 oz

1 case of metal= 20 x 16= 320 oz /16= 20 pounds
1 case of gold =20 x 17 = 340 oz/16 = 21.25 pounds (or 21lbs 4oz)

I would organise the boxes in a row. then take 1 bar out of each boxes and weigh individually as quick as possible!? But i am thinking you cannot do that in 5 seconds..:doh

You take any bar out of a box and put on scale and keep looking for a 1.1 on the scale! But if u did not have time.:furious3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

See you imperial oldies! We are metric now so I had to check up!

If X = 1 pound thats 16 oz (because 16 oz in 1 pounds)
Y= 1.1 pound thats 17 oz

1 case of metal= 20 x 16= 320 oz /16= 20 pounds
1 case of gold =20 x 17 = 340 oz/16 = 21.25 pounds (or 21lbs 4oz)

I would organise the boxes in a row. then take 1 bar out of each boxes and weigh individually as quick as possible!? But i am thinking you cannot do that in 5 seconds..:doh

You take any bar out of a box and put on scale and keep looking for a 1.1 on the scale! But if u did not have time.:furious3:

You are definitely on the right lines, but you are correct when you say you wouldn't have time. Just need to think outside the box a tiny bit more.:)

[pennybarry]

Whoever gave me negative rep points on this thread, I hope you're happy now in abusing rep points of our forum. I wish you will look beautiful now as you made something bad against others and you're satisfied and happy for doing such. If that is the thing that will make you happy like doing bad things to others, I am willing to give you all my rep points to make you feel happy and beautiful. Is that makes sense?

I really understands people suffering from distresses.

Goodluck to your mission to our forum. I know we're 2 members who got neg rep from you.

I am not angry as I don't want to be ugly Betty like.

Still smiling:BouncyHappy:

By the way thanks to Sir Alan for giving me rep points on this thread.

[Mrs.JMajor]

Whoever gave me negative rep points on this thread, I hope you're happy now in abusing rep points of our forum. I wish you will look beautiful now as you made something bad against others and you're satisfied and happy for doing such. If that is the thing that will make you happy like doing bad things to others, I am willing to give you all my rep points to make you feel happy and beautiful. Is that makes sense?

I really understands people suffering from distresses.

Goodluck to your mission to our forum. I know we're 2 members who got neg rep from you.

I am not angry as I don't want to be ugly Betty like.

Still smiling:BouncyHappy:

By the way thanks to Sir Alan for giving me rep points on this thread.

No worry friendship, I just want to let :censored:(name) know that Keith know who did it lolz, alright maybe you beat the answer :BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy:

[KeithD]

No worry friendship, I just want to let :censored:(name) know that Keith know who did it lolz, alright maybe you beat the answer :BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy:
I sign mine as I'm stupid! :Cuckoo: