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Pepe n Pilar
17th July 2009, 10:09
IMMIGRATION MATTERS

Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill could become Law next week

By Charles Kelly

17 July 2009

The UK Government's plan lengthen the period immigrants must live in the U.K. before applying for citizenship may become law next week after backing down on stricter passport checks between Britain and Ireland yesterday.

The Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill cleared its final stage in the House of Commons this week with the support of both the Conservative and Liberal Democrat opposition parties. The Government had earlier climbed down plans to impose identity checks on journeys between the U.K. and Ireland.

The House of Lords could grant final approval to the legislation on July 21, allowing the measures to go on the statutes, and receive the Royal Assent, as the Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Act 2009, before Parliament enters its summer recess, a spokesman for the Home Office said this week.

The rules are part of the biggest curbs on migration in six decades and will make it harder for working migrants to settle in the UK. See: Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill will make it harder to settle in the UK

The new citizenship rules will take effect no earlier than July 2011. Migrants who hold permanent residency at that time, or Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), will be able to apply under the old rules for the next two years.

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Identity and Passport Service 'open to bribes' say people traffickers

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Alan
17th July 2009, 10:17
.......and I can't get my wife of two years into the UK. :cwm23:

Al.

joebloggs
17th July 2009, 18:44
what's to come here for AL :Erm:


i dont cARE about the bill, my misses is free from immigration control :Hellooo:

mickcant
17th July 2009, 19:03
.......and I can't get my wife of two years into the UK. :cwm23:

Al.
Hi Alan,
Why it that, is it anything you can talk about?
Did you marry in the Philippines?
Mick.

Jonnywina
17th July 2009, 19:36
what would happen to us? If my wife comes here in sept or october what would happen in 2 years from then?

jam07
17th July 2009, 19:38
.......and I can't get my wife of two years into the UK. :cwm23:

Al.

Two years?! :omg: thats such a looooong time :doh :cwm24:

why did it took that long? :cwm24:

joebloggs
17th July 2009, 19:50
what would happen to us? If my wife comes here in sept or october what would happen in 2 years from then?

not sure yet, but looks like your wife will have to do some community service work or wait an extra year until she can apply for citizenship.

darren-b
22nd July 2009, 05:24
It looks like did this actually became a law yesterday - from the parliament website

Latest news
Outstanding issues on the Bill were resolved on 20 July.

Royal Assent will take place on 21 July. This is the final stage of the Bill’s passage through Parliament when the Bill becomes an Act (law).

Guess we'll learn over time exactly who the new rules will affect (suggestion is anyone who can't apply for ILR by July 2011) and exactly what it will mean.

joebloggs
22nd July 2009, 19:10
yes we wait and see what the gov will do,

you might be applying for something called provisional citizenship, which isn't really citizenship instead of ILR, and for citizenship it could well be that the qualifying period for someone married to a British Citizen will be 5 years, but reduced by 2 years to 3 years .... if the person has done some voluntary work.

Florge
24th July 2009, 04:30
How long should the voluntary work be?

darren-b
24th July 2009, 05:37
How long should the voluntary work be?

There has been suggestions that it will be a minimum of 50 hours, but this hasn't been confirmed yet.

Pepe n Pilar
24th July 2009, 09:52
Ah voluntary work minimum of 50 hrs? That would be a great then if ever it will be implemented..:xxgrinning--00xx3: I am doing voluntary work for 24hrs/mo. (at least), sometimes i extend my time. That would be 288 hrs in one year.:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

Jay&Zobel
24th July 2009, 23:09
IMMIGRATION MATTERS

Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill could become Law next week

By Charles Kelly

The UK Government spent more than £8.2 million last year on chartering private jets to deport immigrants, according to official figures. Over £70,000 was wasted on a one bungled attempt to fly failed asylum seeker Fatou Gaye to the Ivory Coast on a private jet only to have to fly her back again when she was refused entry.
Identity and Passport Service 'open to bribes' say people traffickers

The Times reports that people-traffickers view Britain as a "soft touch" when it comes to smuggling illegal immigrants, with high profits and low risks of capture, according to Home Office research published yesterday. Traffickers allege that officials in the Identity and Passport Service are open to bribes to help illegal immigrants enter the country.


:NoNo::NoNo::NoNo::NoNo: This really makes me :cwm23:, spending ££££thousands just to deport someone/illegal immigrants. :NoNo: This is also one of the reasons why visa fees are getting high. :NoNo:

joebloggs
25th July 2009, 07:30
UK is a soft touch, if immigration or police catch an Illegal immigrant, they will almost with certainty be given bail, be told to report back to immigration weekly because there is no where to hold them, and then some will vanish. those that don't will try a lengthy appeal process, claim asylum, marry a eastern european to stay here, and those that don't will refuse and struggle to stop being deported, thats why such a small number are being deported :doh

Jay&Zobel
25th July 2009, 10:11
UK is a soft touch, if immigration or police catch an Illegal immigrant, they will almost with certainty be given bail, be told to report back to immigration weekly because there is no where to hold them, and then some will vanish. those that don't will try a lengthy appeal process, claim asylum, marry a eastern european to stay here, and those that don't will refuse and struggle to stop being deported, thats why such a small number are being deported :doh


So that's why many people would like to come to UK illegally because it's unlikely they won't get deported :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:

mickcant
25th July 2009, 10:21
So that's why many people would like to come to UK illegally because it's unlikely they won't get deported :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:

Hi Jay&Zobel, :Hellooo:
And that is what helps to make it so difficult and the delay in getting our loved ones that we will take care of financially to be allowed to be here with us.:Brick:
Mick.

Jay&Zobel
25th July 2009, 10:39
:NoNo::NoNo::NoNo::NoNo: This really makes me :cwm23:, spending ££££thousands just to deport someone/illegal immigrants. :NoNo: This is also one of the reasons why visa fees are getting high. :NoNo:


UK is a soft touch, if immigration or police catch an Illegal immigrant, they will almost with certainty be given bail, be told to report back to immigration weekly because there is no where to hold them, and then some will vanish. those that don't will try a lengthy appeal process, claim asylum, marry a eastern european to stay here, and those that don't will refuse and struggle to stop being deported, thats why such a small number are being deported :doh


So that's why many people would like to come to UK illegally because it's unlikely they won't get deported :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:


Hi Jay&Zobel, :Hellooo:
And that is what helps to make it so difficult and the delay in getting our loved ones that we will take care of financially to be allowed to be here with us.:Brick:
Mick.


Hi Mick,
True true :NoNo::NoNo: I couldn't agree more.

joebloggs
25th July 2009, 11:39
The control of immigration statistics for the last quarter of 2008 show that asylum applications have fallen by two per cent - down from 6,870 between October and December 2007 to 6,735 in the same period for 2008.

The number of initial decisions to refuse or grant asylum was three per cent up, with 4,720 decisions being made in the last quarter of 2008 compared to 4,570 in the same period in 2007.

Between October and December 2008 16,525 people were removed or departed voluntarily from the United Kingdom. This includes 2,570 failed asylum seekers and their dependants and 13,950 non asylum cases. This is a two per cent fall from the same period the previous year.

A yearly comparison shows that overall removals and voluntary departures are five per cent up - increasing from 63,365 in 2007 to 66,275 in 2008. There was a fall of 15 per cent to 11,640 for those leaving who had claimed asylum (including dependants) but an increase of ten per cent to 54,635 for non-asylum cases in 2008.

from
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/immandasylumstats

notice the voluntary and removals figures have been combined together, WHY ?? because the removal figure is so low. and for the yearly figure for 2008 the voluntary figure was high because of the concession for illegal immigrants to return home voluntary and their overstaying wouldn't effect future visa apps to the uk if they left by oct 2008, yet how many came back ?

there are many scams out there, more than you think, sham marriages, bogus colleges & uni's, bogus students and asylum seekers, umbrella companies that use deceit to help get visa's.....

Jay&Zobel
25th July 2009, 11:47
The control of immigration statistics for the last quarter of 2008 show that asylum applications have fallen by two per cent - down from 6,870 between October and December 2007 to 6,735 in the same period for 2008.

The number of initial decisions to refuse or grant asylum was three per cent up, with 4,720 decisions being made in the last quarter of 2008 compared to 4,570 in the same period in 2007.

Between October and December 2008 16,525 people were removed or departed voluntarily from the United Kingdom. This includes 2,570 failed asylum seekers and their dependants and 13,950 non asylum cases. This is a two per cent fall from the same period the previous year.

A yearly comparison shows that overall removals and voluntary departures are five per cent up - increasing from 63,365 in 2007 to 66,275 in 2008. There was a fall of 15 per cent to 11,640 for those leaving who had claimed asylum (including dependants) but an increase of ten per cent to 54,635 for non-asylum cases in 2008.

from
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/immandasylumstats

notice the voluntary and removals figures have been combined together, WHY ?? because the removal figure is so low. and for the yearly figure for 2008 the voluntary figure was high because of the concession for illegal immigrants to return home voluntary and their overstaying wouldn't effect future visa apps to the uk if they left by oct 2008, yet how many came back ?

there are many scams out there, more than you think, sham marriages, bogus colleges & uni's, bogus students and asylum seekers, umbrella companies that use deceit to help get visa's.....


This is really sad, people will just do anything & everything to break "the system." Why can't they just abide by the rules? :NoNo: