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Darren
6th August 2009, 22:30
I live in the Philippines (Cavite). I have been back and fourth for the past three years and just spent 15 months straight at home in Cavite. :Rasp:

To be honest I want to stay in the Philippines and not bother to come here at all BUT, my asawa of almost three years wants to live here for a while & to be fare that's OK by me!
Now the tricky part is I have lived and worked abroad (Middle East) for a number of years now, I have no savings yet in a British bank, and no property in the UK. :doh And how can I show any TAX records? I don't pay any Tax :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Now I can get a rental property and put money in the bank but, as to work history I can't prove it :ARsurrender:

I arrived two weeks ago LHR :bigcry: And am now temporarily staying with parents till fixed up with a rental (Won't buy dito!) I have not the faintest idea how I can get my asawa dito talaga! :Brick:

What made me laugh anyway I watched UK border control what a :censored: laugh!!! :icon_lol: How do they get away with it???

I only want to bring my anganda asawa dito who can speak better English than me (I am English) to live here for a few years! Whilst not sponging of the state like the government here! :butthead:

And she don't want to visit Birmingham Palace (for those of you who saw that episode of border control lol) :icon_lol:

Darren :ARsurrender:


I forgot to mention we have a three year old daughter who has to under go a DNA test to be registered here! (Shocking)!!! its...:censored:

Just been looking at info for getting a visa for my wife on here, looks like i have no :censored: chance!!! and :censored: to the lot of those :censored: :censored: hahahaha I bet the one who made those :censored: rules up is a single public school boy who's :censored: hahaha and never had a lay in his life! poor :censored:


I would like to say however that this site is a wealth of info and thanx for all the helpful advise given talaga! :Hellooo:


Shafted by my own country!


Well I expected nothing less! People living here who can't string an English conversation together living off benefits??? I can see why I got out a long time ago!!!


Looks like I'm a right moaning :censored: but I can't help seeing what is happening here!



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I would like to say thanx to those people who have replied to my post with helpful and friendly advice!


I do have to mention however hahaha-hahaha PMSL:icon_lol: the nugget who likes to earn points by replying to hahahaha :icon_lol: everyone's posts! Pity I didn't read after the first string of a sentence it was utter dribble hahaha :icon_lol: I only had to look after, at all the posts made by it to realise I was right! :icon_lol: Your in the wrong forum you need Blue Peter! No badges here!!! :icon_lol: You must have been looking in the mirror when you put your profile picture on hahahaha :icon_lol: Best laugh I've had all day Thanx!!!:icon_lol:

fred
7th August 2009, 00:18
Hey Darren..Where in Cavite??
We may be neighbours!!
Do I think you should go back? HELL NO.. Big mistake in present climate..
Relax..Have a few bottles of SMB and get your thinking in gear man!

trader dave
7th August 2009, 06:36
:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

i think you hit the nail on head with one sentence SHAFTED BY YOUR OWN COUNTRY:Help1:

AS FRED SAID STAY PUT HAVE ANOTHER SMB:D:D

scott&ligaya
7th August 2009, 09:08
here what you say Darren,
I am only back 18 months and my honey and I are already considering a return to the Phils sooner rather than as intended in about four or five years time. So many things here seem unfair and intended to prevent you from actually having a decent life whilst encouraging all sorts of behaviours that just undermine what British culture was known to be. I am often ashamed even in more well to do areas of the litter, graffiti, groups of zombie like teenagers seemingly with "nothing to do" and my wife has on more than occasion been shocked by the current British working class culture as exhibited by driving down the promenade at Blackpool recently on a saturday night before the Barrio Fiesta.

Having said that she has been stunned by the natural scenery of Western Scotland, Parts of Wales and Cumbria and in particular the coastline of North Cornwall. The UK would be better if just could return to appropriate values of respect, duty, social responsibility and and understanding our obligations to contribute to our society.

bornatbirth
7th August 2009, 10:27
did you not think about when you come back the problems you will have,before you left?

scott&ligaya
7th August 2009, 11:28
Hi Bornatbirth, not sure if your qustion was for or Darren.In my case I actually did a personal SWOT analysis and reckoned that fresh air to breathe for our baby and a decent sized garden to play in(we lived in Hong Kong on the 52nd floor of a 1200sq ft apartment) plus the opportunity to show my wife around Europes cities and mountains and coastlines would offset the yob culture, high taxes and dismal weather. What surprised me was how hard it was after being away a few years.... you drop off all censuses and credit checking systems and you have to re establish that you are ordinarily resident in the UK even when you are British citizen!!!

In any event it is easy to be critical of the UK having lived in places like Singapore and Hong Kong where basically public services work and are efficient but the real issue in the UK for me is the lack of parental responsibility combined with a nanny state where even competitive sport at school is bad because poor Johnny might not be a winner and will emotionally scarred for life!!!!

bornatbirth
7th August 2009, 12:20
i was thinking more...that if you leave the country then you need to take everything into consideration so you dont end up like darren a little bit miffed off.

i know it seems easy to pack up and go but i cant help feeling im better off here,i guess im getting older and with a new wife..she comes first.

Arthur Little
7th August 2009, 12:54
I live in the Philippines (Cavite). I have been back and fourth for the past three years and just spent 15 months straight at home in Cavite. :Rasp:

To be honest I want to stay in the Philippines and not bother to come here at all BUT, my asawa of almost three years wants to live here for a while & to be fare that's OK by me!

:Hellooo: Welcome. My 'gut instinct' would be to say, if YOU'RE perfectly happy living where you are in the Phils ... then WHY NOT continue to stay there. Clearly though, your asawa has different ideas. And therein lies the problem ...

joebloggs
7th August 2009, 13:25
the embassy asked you for a DNA test to be done ?

why don't you just apply for a passport forget the registration.

usually they wouldn't ask you for DNA test unless they have a reason to

Darren
7th August 2009, 13:32
Hey Darren..Where in Cavite??
We may be neighbours!!
Do I think you should go back? HELL NO.. Big mistake in present climate..
Relax..Have a few bottles of SMB and get your thinking in gear man!

Thanx Fred, I stay in Summerfield at the moment, we are planning to buy in Imus though, much better the traffic to Manila.
What about you Fred where you staying? A few expats I know around Cavite, we usually meet up for a BBQ and good drink most weekends! :Cuckoo:

Darren
7th August 2009, 13:33
the embassy asked you for a DNA test to be done ?

why don't you just apply for a passport forget the registration.

usually they wouldn't ask you for DNA test unless they have a reason to

I'll look into that thanx!!! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Arthur Little
7th August 2009, 13:35
[B] my asawa of almost three years wants to live here for a while & to be fare that's OK by me!
Now the tricky part is I have lived and worked abroad (Middle East) for a number of years now, I have no savings yet in a British bank, and no property in the UK. :doh And how can I show any TAX records? I don't pay any Tax :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Now I can get a rental property and put money in the bank but, as to work history I can't prove it :ARsurrender:

I arrived two weeks ago LHR :bigcry: And am now temporarily staying with parents till fixed up with a rental (Won't buy dito!) I have not the faintest idea how I can get my asawa dito talaga! :Brick:

Just been looking at info for getting a visa for my wife on here, looks like i have no :censored: chance!!!site is a wealth of info and thanx for all the helpful advise given talaga![/U] :Hellooo:[/CENTER]



... the fact that you've been living and working overseas - and hence not contributed to the British Government's coffers by way of paying income tax - for so long WILL, unless I'm very much mistaken, render it extremely difficult [if not well-nigh impossible] for your good lady to be granted a spousal visa at this point in time. But then, :rolleyes: it seems you are already aware of that from the research you've undertaken.

Darren
7th August 2009, 13:55
here what you say Darren,
I am only back 18 months and my honey and I are already considering a return to the Phils sooner rather than as intended in about four or five years time. So many things here seem unfair and intended to prevent you from actually having a decent life whilst encouraging all sorts of behaviours that just undermine what British culture was known to be. I am often ashamed even in more well to do areas of the litter, graffiti, groups of zombie like teenagers seemingly with "nothing to do" and my wife has on more than occasion been shocked by the current British working class culture as exhibited by driving down the promenade at Blackpool recently on a saturday night before the Barrio Fiesta.

Having said that she has been stunned by the natural scenery of Western Scotland, Parts of Wales and Cumbria and in particular the coastline of North Cornwall. The UK would be better if just could return to appropriate values of respect, duty, social responsibility and and understanding our obligations to contribute to our society.

Thank you for your time to reply! I don't blame you for wanting to go back home!
If only people new what the UK is really like!!! They deffo would not come to this :censored: Hole! Did you notice how people here go out of their way to help you (I don't think so) lol. And the people try to make something of themselves here only to be trodden on by the government, taxed and re-taxed on everything its unbelievable the way this the UK has ended up! It must be a terrifying experience to come to the UK and end up in a bad area & have to put up with all the :censored: that goes with it!

British cultures long dead and buried! And I am mystified as to why anyone in their right mind would want to stay here, cause you know how hospitable people are dito (NOT)!

I am not slagging the Brits cause being an expat for years I believe all the cream of the crop are now happy mostly TAX FREE and living happily abroad end of!



Thanx mate for letting me rant on lol! I'm a fun loving guy talaga, walang bala promise!

bornatbirth
7th August 2009, 13:59
Thank you for your time to reply! I don't blame you for wanting to go back home!
If only people new what the UK is really like!!! They deffo would not come to this :censored: Hole! Did you notice how people here go out of their way to help you (I don't think so) lol. And the people try to make something of themselves here only to be trodden on by the government, taxed and re-taxed on everything its unbelievable the way this the UK has ended up! It must be a terrifying experience to come to the UK and end up in a bad area & have to put up with all the :censored: that goes with it!

British cultures long dead and buried! And I am mystified as to why anyone in their right mind would want to stay here, cause you know how hospitable people are dito (NOT)!

I am not slagging the Brits cause being an expat for years I believe all the cream of the crop are now happy mostly TAX FREE and living happily abroad end of!



Thanx mate for letting me rant on lol! I'm a fun loving guy talaga, walang bala promise!

good ridance but you wont come back when you get old and ill will you :Erm:

lets hope all those who think the same can leave too!

Darren
7th August 2009, 14:06
... the fact that you've been living and working overseas - and hence not contributed to the British Government's coffers by way of paying income tax - for so long WILL, unless I'm very much mistaken, render it extremely difficult [if not well-nigh impossible] for your good lady to be granted a spousal visa at this point in time. But then, :rolleyes: it seems you are already aware of that from the research you've undertaken.

So true my friend have looked into it your so correct! Thank you :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Arthur Little
7th August 2009, 14:16
I'm sorry to have painted such a gloomy picture, my friend. :bigcry: But what I've just said reflects the situation as I see it ... based on the information you've provided - in tandem with your own (obviously extensive) trawl through the relevant websites. Unfair though the 'System' might appear (and God knows, I've had occasion to "curse" it myself - still DO sometimes) we ALL have to accept it exists for reasons best-understood by our political masters.

Good luck to you and your family ... whatever you eventually decide to do! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Darren
7th August 2009, 14:18
:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

i think you hit the nail on head with one sentence SHAFTED BY YOUR OWN COUNTRY:Help1:

AS FRED SAID STAY PUT HAVE ANOTHER SMB:D:D

Hahaha cheers! I'll have another for you my friend :D I see there are even nonsense people who have squirmed their way onto this site!!! with there nonsense crap! You always get them they have to feel important by posting on everyone's comments with nonsense things PMSL :icon_lol: Lol must think I would even bother to give them the time of day! :icon_lol:

Thanx Trader Dave! I'll have a pitcher for you!!!:Rasp:

Darren
7th August 2009, 14:26
I'm sorry to have painted such a gloomy picture, my friend. :bigcry: But what I've just said reflects the situation as I see it ... based on the information you've provided - in tandem with your own (obviously extensive) trawl through the relevant websites. Unfair though the 'System' might appear (and God knows, I've had occasion to "curse" it myself - still DO sometimes) we ALL have to accept it exists for reasons best-understood by our political masters.

Good luck to you and your family ... whatever you eventually decide to do! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanx Arthur, Yes I except the situation my friend, there's not a blighter I can do about it!!! I just wanted a little rant!!! I'm quite happy to stay in the Philippines And have had a good laugh at some of the replies!!! Except the points awarded to me For every post :censored: head :Erm: But you know yourself there's always one hahaha! Good luck to you and yours SMB back at ya!

trader dave
7th August 2009, 14:42
good ridance but you wont come back when you get old and ill will you :Erm:

lets hope all those who think the same can leave too!


i would come back when i am ill and very old i put enough into this country and i will try to get something in return and that goes for my wife as well


this place is great where else in the world could you go :dohthat you dont have to put a penny into the coffers of that country but you can take take take take take take all at MINE AND YOURS EXPENCE


ONE EXAMPLE DONT HANG ME ON THIS GIRLS:ARsurrender:


A young pilipina gets married to an older guy she comes to the uk in the mean time the older guys mother dies and leaves him lots of money/ houses what ever :Erm: a little while later the wife decides she wants a divorce she has never paid a penny into the country in tax ni nothing

but she gets free legal aid TO TRY TO GET 50% of the wealth of her husband AND she will get it:doh

now this could be a lady from any country

SO DONT HANG ME i am not picking on pilipinas:Hellooo::Hellooo::Hellooo:

Tawi2
7th August 2009, 15:12
Hope you get everything sorted out Darren,hope you get your wife and kid over even if they only want to stay for a few years,its all an experience,be lucky :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Darren
7th August 2009, 15:19
Hope you get everything sorted out Darren,hope you get your wife and kid over even if they only want to stay for a few years,its all an experience,be lucky :xxgrinning--00xx3:


Maraming Salamat!

Sophie
7th August 2009, 23:07
[QUOTE=trader dave;16167
ONE EXAMPLE DONT HANG ME ON THIS GIRLS:ARsurrender:
A young pilipina gets married to an older guy she comes to the uk in the mean time the older guys mother dies and leaves him lots of money/ houses what ever :Erm: a little while later the wife decides she wants a divorce she has never paid a penny into the country in tax ni nothing
but she gets free legal aid TO TRY TO GET 50% of the wealth of her husband AND she will get it:doh[/QUOTE]


LOL, if this is the case, you have every right to rant and feel bad really.....:D:D:D:D

bornatbirth
7th August 2009, 23:20
i would come back when i am ill and very old i put enough into this country and i will try to get something in return and that goes for my wife as well

this place is great where else in the world could you go :dohthat you dont have to put a penny into the coffers of that country but you can take take take take take take all at MINE AND YOURS EXPENCE




but are you going to moan and gripe about it,if computer says no?

i have no time for anyone who wants to moan about the uk,infact i get sick of it..if you dont like it leave!

trader dave
7th August 2009, 23:26
but are you going to moan and gripe about it,if computer says no?

i have no time for anyone who wants to moan about the uk,infact i get sick of it..if you dont like it leave!


no you are right the uk is a loverly place the trouble is some of the w*nkers living here and more w*nkers running the show and there more sh*t queing up to come in :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::Brick:


perhaps young man when you get to my age the place will give you the hump as well

fred
8th August 2009, 04:34
Thanx Fred, I stay in Summerfield at the moment, we are planning to buy in Imus though, much better the traffic to Manila.
What about you Fred where you staying? A few expats I know around Cavite, we usually meet up for a BBQ and good drink most weekends! :Cuckoo:


This is our place (in Imus) www.apartmentinphilippines.blogspot.com ..About 5 mins walk from Robinsons..
The Mrs is there now but Im here in Bohol still constructing our nipa hut etc..
Youll have to let me know where you meet up and I`ll pop in when Im in town..
Cheers...Fred.

fred
8th August 2009, 04:38
we ALL have to accept it exists for reasons best-understood by our political masters.

I have no intention of accepting anything of the sort!! Never have and never will..
Your political masters are IMO Aurthur a bunch of self serving crooks..

joebloggs
8th August 2009, 10:15
I have no intention of accepting anything of the sort!! Never have and never will..
Your political masters are IMO Aurthur a bunch of self serving crooks..

:D and your living in one of the most corrupt countries in the world :doh

i'll believe you the day they find brown has hidden billions of £ of tax payers money in Swiss bank accounts :rolleyes:

fred
10th August 2009, 00:37
:D and your living in one of the most corrupt countries in the world :doh

i'll believe you the day they find brown has hidden billions of £ of tax payers money in Swiss bank accounts :rolleyes:


Joe.. My money is my own here and I choose how to spend it.. I dont have the UK nanny politicians taking it from me for my own good!!
How many other stealth taxes have they thought up since my departure??
Ohhhh....Its scary....I dont want to know.

adam&chryss
10th August 2009, 19:55
but are you going to moan and gripe about it,if computer says no?

i have no time for anyone who wants to moan about the uk,infact i get sick of it..if you dont like it leave!

I completely agree. Unless you`re here at Her Majestys Pleasure I would say its easy to :censored: off to the promised land, except its not that is it.
If you live in a :censored: area then move cos it probably doesnt have any work in that area either.
I think if you leave the country with the old " it :censored: me" attitude then you should forgo any right to benefits you would gain as a British citizen and enjoy the benefits of your new "paradise".
I`m already making plans for my retirement to Phil but not cos I hate it here or cos I want to leave but so my wife can enjoy her country again just as I am mine now.

joebloggs
10th August 2009, 22:09
Joe.. My money is my own here and I choose how to spend it.. I dont have the UK nanny politicians taking it from me for my own good!!
How many other stealth taxes have they thought up since my departure??
Ohhhh....Its scary....I dont want to know.

same here Fred, i can spend me money on what ever i like, but i don't need a stash of brown envelopes at the ready :D.

and at least in the UK my misses can buy and own a house :rolleyes:

there good and bad things about both countries, but for now the UK is our home, but maybe in 5yrs or so , we'll go and live in the phils for a year, then come back to the UK.

I don't think there is anything wrong complaining about living in the UK, especially when european living in the UK have in some cases more rights than British citizens and about the real gov the Brussel sprouts.:NoNo: