swine flu vaccine..would you have it?

[maria_and_matt]

with an underlying health condition, my surgery wrote to me today to ask if i would consider having the vaccine in oct.... :NoNo: i really dont know know if i want it.. what do you guys think?

[KeithD]

:Erm: Why not.

If you have a health condition you should be getting the noraml flu vaccine every year. I get mine on Thursday :xxgrinning--00xx3: .....and maybe Swine flu next week.

If you have an underlying health condition you stand a very higher chance of dying from the illness+flu than a healthy person.

[maria_and_matt]

im scared:NoNo:, i ean have they even tested this vaccine properly, :bigcry:

[JimOttley]

im scared:NoNo:, i ean have they even tested this vaccine properly, :bigcry:

They use the same basic technology to generate the flu vaccine every year and have been doing so since the early 1940's.

It doesn't always work but it's a pretty safe vaccine, don't worry about it.


Jim

[KeithD]

im scared:NoNo:, i ean have they even tested this vaccine properly, :bigcry:
Of course it is tested to the normal rigourous safety checks, and past with flying colours in independent tests in Australia, USA and the EU.

[maria_and_matt]

Of course it is tested to the normal rigourous safety checks, and past with flying colours in independent tests in Australia, USA and the EU.

my husband insisted tha i should have it, if something goes wrong i will haunt his :action-smiley-081: to kingdom come:icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Arthur Little]

... if something goes wrong i will haunt his :action-smiley-081: to kingdom come ... icon_lol::icon_lol:

... and that's the "bottom" :butthead: line, is it, Maria? Nah, seriously, from what both Keith and Jim have said, it seems a pretty safe bet that all will be well as far as this particular vaccine is concerned. :xxgrinning--00xx3: Besides, it'll keep your Matt happy!

[maria_and_matt]

... and that's the "bottom" :butthead: line, is it, Maria? Nah, seriously, from what both Keith and Jim have said, it seems a pretty safe bet that all will be well as far as this particular vaccine is concerned. :xxgrinning--00xx3: Besides, it'll keep your Matt happy!

:icon_lol::icon_lol: we are having the vaccination together (my matt has asthma)... i hope everything goes well

[pumpkins]

:icon_lol::icon_lol: we are having the vaccination together (my matt has asthma)... i hope everything goes well

you are lucky to have swine flu vaccine..its for your health girl :)

[maria_and_matt]

you are lucky to have swine flu vaccine..its for your health girl :)

you dont have it where u are pumpkin?

[GaryFifer]

:Erm: Why not.

If you have a health condition you should be getting the noraml flu vaccine every year. I get mine on Thursday :xxgrinning--00xx3: .....and maybe Swine flu next week.

If you have an underlying health condition you stand a very higher chance of dying from the illness+flu than a healthy person.

What is classification underlying health condition? I never get info about this. I on epilepsy tablets and in remission for testicular cancer. I guess it is if you have problem with lungs before.

[gWaPito]

you dont have it where u are pumpkin?

Hi Maria,

Pumpkins is still in the land of corruption and smiling faces hence, no injection available.
We are both praying our heads off she can come back with me late November :)

[maria_and_matt]

Hi Maria,

Pumpkins is still in the land of corruption and smiling faces hence, no injection available.
We are both praying our heads off she can come back with me late November :)


:icon_lol::icon_lol:if she goes to er doctor there is a vaccine at a cost... my nices and nephew had them already

[IainBusby]

:Erm: Why not.

If you have a health condition you should be getting the noraml flu vaccine every year. I get mine on Thursday :xxgrinning--00xx3: .....and maybe Swine flu next week.

If you have an underlying health condition you stand a very higher chance of dying from the illness+flu than a healthy person.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I get one every year as well, it's nothing to worry about, the swine flu vaccine will be just the same as all of the other flu vaccines they've been giving people for years because it's made exactly the same way and remember, most of the take up for these annual vaccines are people who are generally quite vulnerable like old age pensioners and people with weakened immune systems etc.

Iain.

[gWaPito]

:icon_lol::icon_lol:if she goes to er doctor there is a vaccine at a cost... my nices and nephew had them already

Like our leader said ''if you have health issues'' it would be wise to get, so you get!
luckily we don't have, we ''don't want to fix what isn't broken.'' :D

[KeithD]

My doctor is giving me a little prick tomorrow :action-smiley-081:

[GaryFifer]

Like i said, I want to know in more detail who the target population for the vaccine is..

WHO recommendations for pandemic (H1N1) 2009 vaccination

* vaccinating healthcare workers should be first priority
* individual countries will need to determine priority of vaccination for other groups based on country-specific conditions, groups may include

o pregnant women
o children > 6 months old and adults with specific chronic medical conditions
o healthy young adults aged 15-49 years
o healthy children
o healthy adults aged 50-64 years
o healthy adults ≥ 65 years old


Source- Harford Hospital Health Library (http://www.harthosp.org/HealthLibrary/SwineInfluenza/default.aspx)

[KeithD]

I come under No.1 :cwm24: I caught it off Mrs Daddy :omg:

[belfast_dude]

i work in the N.H.S....i will take the flu vaccine...and the swine flu vaccine...partly because of my job...but part of me wants it to....the good thing about the swine flu vaccine...is it is not a live vaccine...so hopefully no bad side effects...i hope..lol

[KeithD]

i work in the N.H.S....
That explains a lot about the health service then :icon_lol:

[maria_and_matt]

That explains a lot about the health service then :icon_lol:

ur having your flu shot today... i hate needles... i hope ur not:icon_lol:

[maria_and_matt]

i work in the N.H.S....i will take the flu vaccine...and the swine flu vaccine...partly because of my job...but part of me wants it to....the good thing about the swine flu vaccine...is it is not a live vaccine...so hopefully no bad side effects...i hope..lol

i hope so too:NoNo:

[KeithD]

ur having your flu shot today... i hate needles... i hope ur not:icon_lol:
Had it an hour ago....still here :Hellooo:

[maria_and_matt]

Had it an hour ago....still here :Hellooo:

good to hear you are still amongst the living:icon_lol:

[Ayjay]

Had it an hour ago....still here :Hellooo:

It is my understanding that most seniors have some level of natural immunity towards this virus..?? And that its the younger folks that are most vulnerable..??

AJ

[triple5]

It is my understanding that most seniors have some level of natural immunity towards this virus..?? And that its the younger folks that are most vulnerable..??

AJ

I believe that's right, it's most common in males 15-35 so I read.

[JimOttley]

It is my understanding that most seniors have some level of natural immunity towards this virus..?? And that its the younger folks that are most vulnerable..??

AJ

It is impossible to state anything with any certainty, the influenza virus is extremely prone to mutation.

In the 1918-1920 flu pandemic the first wave affected young healthy adults, by the time the much more deadly second wave came round it had mutated a bit and the primary victims were back to being the elderly and children.

The big fear is that the pattern of this virus is strikingly similar so far to the 1918 outbreak and the worry is that the second wave, like the 1918 virus, could be a lot worse.


Jim

[KeithD]

One of the main reasons the 1918-1920 flu pandemic killed so many people in the West is that many had lowered immune systems after years of bad diet due to the war, hygenie was bad, and life expectancy a lot lower, it is not really comparable with the West today.

[belfast_dude]

That explains a lot about the health service then :icon_lol:

:doh:bigcry::ARsurrender:

[JimOttley]

One of the main reasons the 1918-1920 flu pandemic killed so many people in the West is that many had lowered immune systems after years of bad diet due to the war, hygenie was bad, and life expectancy a lot lower, it is not really comparable with the West today.

The 1918 strain was genetically sequenced in 2005 and was recreated in 2007, not sure exactly how but I think it was from the same tissue samples, from that time, that had been used for the sequencing.

In 2007 the recreated virus was used in experiments on monkeys who exhibited the symptoms of the 1918 pandemic and died from a cytokine storm, which was the prevailing cause of death in young healthy adults at the time.

I'm not scaremongering but one day something is going to cull the population to greater or lesser degree whether we like it or not :(


Jim

[KeithD]

I'm not scaremongering but one day something is going to cull the population to greater or lesser degree whether we like it or not :(

Jim
That'll be famine and war that does that, no single virus can effect a complete population enough to decimate the world now due to the huge genetic diversity of the human race. Some folk are naturally immune to Aids, and after 20 years science has no idea why.

[JimOttley]

That'll be famine and war that does that, no single virus can effect a complete population enough to decimate the world now due to the huge genetic diversity of the human race. Some folk are naturally immune to Aids, and after 20 years science has no idea why.

Agreed, it's not in the self interest of a disease to totally decimate its host.

However anything that comes along that has a 5% or greater mortality is going to be seriously noticable to the general public indeed even > 1% would be pretty noticable.


Jim

[KeithD]

The death rate from piggy flu is less than standard flu, however the difference is that it either very mild, or in less than 1% of cases, extremely serious, no middle ground.

We should all be immune on here having spent years living around monkeys :omg:

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