Am I being scammed?

[English Rose]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

[James Hubbard]

Well, on first hearing I would say be careful. There are many many ways scammers have to scam you.

On the other hand . . .

You've known this guy now for a number of years, and you're still wondering if you're being scammed? That in itself is a bad sign in my opinion.

I think others here who are older and/or wiser than I will be better at answering, but that's just my stab in the dark

[Mrs Daddy]

Oh dear!if its a scam then its a shame for how many years have been wasted...

[Queenbee]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

ummm its not *scam* my dear,just bec he's filipino he's a scammer...
i really dnt kno the hole story but all i can say if you dnt trust him then dump him.Dnt just listen about stories you hear,its is just TAKING RISKS IN LOVE or YOU DOn't,,,That's it.

You can't always believe what a Filipino says?what about other foreign men cheating on us Filipinas?Dnt stereotype all filipinos gurl because we also omen here ,heard lotsa bad stories about dating foreigners but it didnt stop us from lovin our partners,,,It applies to everybody,men or women,filipino or not...PEOPLE LIE AND CHEAT IF THEY wANT TO..Dont you watch jerry springer?ul see the real world...

In your case,u better have a one on one talk to him and then you decide..

[joebloggs]

i dont think many scammers would wait 2 yrs to try to get money out of you..

if hes avoiding you maybe hes already got a g/f or wife :Erm:

hope i'm wrong, only he can tell you the truth.

[somebody]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

Cant speak for you two as a couple as you can imagine.

Just as you cant trust a Philipino you cant trust a Brit in fact be wary of anyone untill you know them better. I like my Wife and many on here all were still cautious untill they got to know one another in person well.

What is his situation, many of us Brits do take it for granted having a pc in our houses or even on our phones etc. So what seem silly- trival reasons to us of course may make it far harder.

When you say Write do you mean post, email or IM? The postal syatem as you may be aware even makes the Bitish system seem efficent:omg:

[whiteraven]

i would have to agree with jim and queenbee on some of the points they have made.if you are having doubts after the time you have known each other then maybe something is wrong. also dont assume they are scammers because they are filipino and asking for help. scammers are usually quick to ask for money early in a relationship not this late in the day, maybe he is geniune. as jim says just talk things out and go with your instinct. are you sure he isnt married already?

[somebody]

ummm its not *scam* my dear,just bec he's filipino he's a scammer...
i really dnt kno the hole story but all i can say if you dnt trust him then dump him.Dnt just listen about stories you hear,its is just TAKING RISKS IN LOVE or YOU DOn't,,,That's it.

You can't always believe what a Filipino says?what about other foreign men cheating on us Filipinas?Dnt stereotype all filipinos gurl because we also omen here ,heard lotsa bad stories about dating foreigners but it didnt stop us from lovin our partners,,,It applies to everybody,men or women,filipino or not...PEOPLE LIE AND CHEAT IF THEY wANT TO..Dont you watch jerry springer?ul see the real world...

In your case,u better have a one on one talk to him and then you decide..
Chill Queen Bee :) I just think English Rose is a tad worried, very few Phill Ladies visit the Brit bloke in abroad in a non familiar country first. So i'm sure you can imagine how a Brit lady like a Phill lady would feel doing so :)

[Sophie]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

Hi englishrose, personally, i think it's still a bit early to make conclusions if he is scamming you......although its normal to feel suspicious at times
and its good that you're vigilant about this issues to avoid getting scammed in the future or ever.....

Financially speaking, he may not be scamming you, as you just mentioned, he never asked for money before eventhough its a fact that he doesn't have much......
and he only asked you to help out with the expenses when you get there since he probably cannot afford to bring you around or go on trips or dine out....
So he took the guts to tell you before you get there so you would know more or less what to expect.....
He may not want you to get disappointed and get himself embarassed when you get there and he cannot cover for the bills (trips, eating out, etc)

As with his on and off excuses about not showing up online at times, i cannot tell for sure, he could be telling the truth or he could be lying....
You're the only one in the position really, to know if he's for real or not or whether he's lying or not.....
2 years is long enough to know the guy well, in my opinion, but i could be wrong....
so you can either give him the benefit of the doubt or go with what your instinct tells you, if in doubt....

[Queenbee]

Chill Queen Bee :) I just think English Rose is a tad worried, very few Phill Ladies visit the Brit bloke in abroad in a non familiar country first. So i'm sure you can imagine how a Brit lady like a Phill lady would feel doing so :)

hehe sorry if sometimes i sound a bit strong especially if she's stereotypin filipinos...sometimes the tone in which things are said can be lost in email/text etc...im actually trying to help her,,,:Rasp:

[smiler78]

On first reading I would think its not a scam as he has been in contact with you for so long, My thoughts as an English guy is that maybe he is not comfortable with you paying as the male role is normally the one of the provider and he embarrassed that he is not able to take that role. Yes it is possible that he has a wife or girlfriend that he hasn't told you about but the fact that he is asking you help at the time your going to be there with him makes me think he is just a little uncomfortable with the situation.

You will know when you get there if he still has the money you sent or if he has paid the hotel as planned and you will have a gut feeling inside when your together. Try not to think to much about other peoples scam stories and trust your own judgment. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Have a great trip :smileybigtmouth:

[Queenbee]

On first reading I would think its not a scam as he has been in contact with you for so long, My thoughts as an English guy is that maybe he is not comfortable with you paying as the male role is normally the one of the provider and he embarrassed that he is not able to take that role. Yes it is possible that he has a wife or girlfriend that he hasn't told you about but the fact that he is asking you help at the time your going to be there with him makes me think he is just a little uncomfortable with the situation.

You will know when you get there if he still has the money you sent or if he has paid the hotel as planned and you will have a gut feeling inside when your together. Try not to think to much about other peoples scam stories and trust your own judgment. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Have a great trip :smileybigtmouth:

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[New Shoes]

If the guy has waited 2 years before he mentions financial assistance, I don't think he scammer.

Filipinos can be very sensitive. Maybe he's just a little anxious that in his eyes, he should be paying for you, or at least sharing the cost, but in reality he is not in the position to do so. You as much sad so in the OP. Maybe he feels he will be embarrassed if it is seen you're one paying for things. Particularly with you being a foreigner with a Filipino, you may get people taking more notice than usual.

Of course he could have a wife or gf, but bear in mind what I have written previously.

[Ayjay]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

Yes my dear... be very careful... many Filipino men milk their women for as much as they can, whilst staying home sleeping and drinking San Mig...

AJ

[GaryFifer]

Yes my dear... be very careful... many Filipino men milk their women for as much as they can, whilst staying home sleeping and drinking San Mig...

AJ

Many? how do you know this fantastic fact?:Erm: Did you ask your tricycle driver about this while he ferried your fat lazy western behind around for bad money?

[James Hubbard]

Ahhhh, Gary2J, The things a respected member can say to a troll that I cannot!

[Aikingmahal]

Give the guy to prove himself... you never know the answer to your question until you gave him a chance! Okay.:xxgrinning--00xx3: Good Luck Girl !!!:)

[James Hubbard]

Give the guy to prove himself... you never know the answer to your question until you gave him a chance! Okay.:xxgrinning--00xx3: Good Luck Girl !!!:)

Probably the wisest words uttered in this so far.

Look, go there, with a £1000 or £1,500. Have FUN, enjoy it, then decide.

Either way, you've had a damn good holiday!

[Ayjay]

Many? how do you know this fantastic fact?:Erm: Did you ask your tricycle driver about this while he ferried your fat lazy western behind around for bad money?

Hi Guys...

Don't use tricycles when I'm in the Phils...

AJ

[James Hubbard]

Hi Guys...

Don't use tricycles when I'm in the Phils...

AJ

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Giving trolls attention? OK, AyJay, you're better than elvis.

Thanks

[IainBusby]

I just think that most Filipinos male or female couldn't afford to eat in the sort of places or stay in the kind of hotels that most westerners would expect to. They would usually travel by jeepney or motorella where as we would usually take a cab. I think he just wants to give you the kind of holiday he thinks you'll expect and unfortunately, he doesn't have the money to do that.

Most of us guys paid for everything when we went there to meet our girlfriends and that usually included treating the whole family to meals out etc, so I think you ought expect to do the same. I know that it's traditional for the guy to pay, but when the woman comes from a western country and the man comes from a very poor country like Phils then I think that you must expect to do things differently.
Iain.

[James Hubbard]

Yes Iain

The guy probably feels self conscious, in that the girl in this case will be the one supplying the money to live in a western-friendly standard, and I'm sure that on some level he feels bad about that. He's just telling EnglishRose upfront, so that she won't be disappointed in him

So, EngRose, I think now, that probably you're cool

You have been with this dude for years. Enjoy your trip, then tell us all how good of a time you had :D

Oh, and eat some Sizzling Sizzig! It's awesome :D

[Queenbee]

Yes my dear... be very careful... many Filipino men milk their women for as much as they can, whilst staying home sleeping and drinking San Mig...

AJ

:xxgrinning--00xx3:i agree on this in Way,,,NOT all filipinos AJ,,,LIFE MUST BE SO HARD FOR YOU...:cwm34:

[JimOttley]

Yes my dear... be very careful... many Filipino men milk their women for as much as they can, whilst staying home sleeping and drinking San Mig...

AJ

You're a real bundle of fun, she's gotten through a couple of YEARS!! without him asking for anything he's not scamming, there might be other problems but he's not scamming her!

And yeah I know the Red Horse, Fundador swilling lazy bums that exist in the Phils, my partners sister, an OFW working for her kids, was married to one of them for 20 years, she has now dumped him and he's out on his ear!

Jim

[somebody]

hehe sorry if sometimes i sound a bit strong especially if she's stereotypin filipinos...sometimes the tone in which things are said can be lost in email/text etc...im actually trying to help her,,,:Rasp:

:xxgrinning--00xx3:


Exactly why all people need to keep away from sterotyping people especially on this site as it scares people who are new to the world.


So many Phills and Brits beliving things about the other country or there people due to what others say using sterotypes.

An american Site many may remeber Like Rob and others from 5 years or so ago was prone to letting people use sterotypes about various people. Which
worried both the Wife and I all thouse years back.

The British man will lock up the phill lady and claim the insurance. Heard that a few times over the years.

City phill ladies will try to scam you more than country ladies.

All should be careful and take as much precaution as they would when meeting anyone.

It does sound like the Gentleman English Rose is planing to visit is a tad embrassed about a Lady paying for all.

[GaryFifer]

Hi Guys...

Don't use tricycles when I'm in the Phils...

AJ

Of course not, you must not get your feet dirty and mix with the peasants.

[JimOttley]

Of course not, you must not get your feet dirty and mix with the peasants.

That's what I thought too when I read that.


Jim

[somebody]

I just think that most Filipinos male or female couldn't afford to eat in the sort of places or stay in the kind of hotels that most westerners would expect to. They would usually travel by jeepney or motorella where as we would usually take a cab. I think he just wants to give you the kind of holiday he thinks you'll expect and unfortunately, he doesn't have the money to do that.

Most of us guys paid for everything when we went there to meet our girlfriends and that usually included treating the whole family to meals out etc, so I think you ought expect to do the same. I know that it's traditional for the guy to pay, but when the woman comes from a western country and the man comes from a very poor country like Phils then I think that you must expect to do things differently.
Iain.

Exactly and depending on the area while he would be fine traveling in a Jeepney or a tricycle, escorting a western lady would in certain areas and times of the day just not be on. But paying for a Cab would seriously dent his wallet.

Everytime he watches a Film or Programe based in the west he would see the Male in most cases picking up the bill that must hit hard on his pride. But he keeps coming back so it sounds like he cares a great deal:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[GaryFifer]

I met my Philippino friend when he was over here. We knew each other for 3 months before he went back. We've been corresponding for 2 years and I'm about to buy a ticket for a visit but I'm having some doubts. He always tells me how much he loves me etc. but since he went back, he writes for a while, then stops for a bit. There's a variety of excuses which keep coming round - bad weather, power cuts, not feeling well, too many people in the computer shop. I know, too, that lack of money is a reason, although he's never mentioned that.
He's never asked me for money before but the other day asked me if I could help with the expenses when I went over there. I asked what would be the cost of the trips and hotels, then he replied that he realised he shouldn't have asked me to pay for him, that he would save up. Since he doesn't have any money, I know he won't be able to do that.
If he's genuine I'm willing to pay for things, but there are so many stories on here of Philippinas who are very loving, but then the man finds out she's had a baby by another man or something similar and the message seems to be that you can't always believe what a Philippino says.

Well ask yourself some tough questions. Why are you having doubts. If something is telling it is not right, if is usually right. Why ask for money now? I suggest you go to a hotel first, then ask to see his house. You will need to rough it for a bit, but then you will get to see how he really lives, and perhaps you can see his situation.

I spent few nights at hotel in Angeles City, then I spent the majority of the holiday at Jessica house and living as she would. Then you can really tell about life there. PS, if you plan to live in his house, bring a torch :) It gets dark at night.

[englishbird]

I just think that most Filipinos male or female couldn't afford to eat in the sort of places or stay in the kind of hotels that most westerners would expect to. They would usually travel by jeepney or motorella where as we would usually take a cab. I think he just wants to give you the kind of holiday he thinks you'll expect and unfortunately, he doesn't have the money to do that.

Most of us guys paid for everything when we went there to meet our girlfriends and that usually included treating the whole family to meals out etc, so I think you ought expect to do the same. I know that it's traditional for the guy to pay, but when the woman comes from a western country and the man comes from a very poor country like Phils then I think that you must expect to do things differently.
Iain.

I will be flying out to Manila in Nov to see my BF and I am expecting to pay for everything. I know he will probably feel awkward but there is no way he can afford to pay for me, when he is on his 3 month break from the cruise ship he earns nothing for that time that he is home.

He keeps telling me to book a cheap hotel, but I don't stay in cheap hotels anywhere, so definately not in Manila:icon_lol:.

:D

[GaryFifer]

I will be flying out to Manila in Nov to see my BF and I am expecting to pay for everything. I know he will probably feel awkward but there is no way he can afford to pay for me, when he is on his 3 month break from the cruise ship he earns nothing for that time that he is home.

He keeps telling me to book a cheap hotel, but I don't stay in cheap hotels anywhere, so definately not in Manila:icon_lol:.

:D

Excuse me for point out. Isn't that a bit snobby. Sounds a bit like Cybil Fawlty. Why not live as he does, then see his family and his home.However humble. After all, he has to come 10,000 miles and live in yours, so why are you not prepared to do the same for him?

[Northerner]

In my opinion:Erm:, you're right to have doubts as that is only natural. But it is unlikely to be the case of you getting scammed. There are many reasons he could be unavailable, but I would think it is because he has no money for the internet but is too proud to let you know.

I would even think that his asking you to help with the expenses whilst you are there took him a while to get the courage to muster.

But I would suggest you rough it for a day or two and live like he does, to show you have accepted his family and have not judged them (even if it is all in his mind) could do wonders for his ego. When in Rome..... :rolleyes:

[walesrob]

Excuse me for point out. Isn't that a bit snobby. Sounds a bit like Cybil Fawlty. Why not live as he does, then see his family and his home.However humble. After all, he has to come 10,000 miles and live in yours, so why are you not prepared to do the same for him?

Agreed. You will see and experience the real Philippines.

Prior to Elsa and I getting married in 2004, I stayed at her parents' place in Tacloban, and their house was basically 1 giant room divided into 4 partitions with a kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and lounge. 6 others were also staying in this tiny building, there were no windows and nearly every night we had "brownout". I didn't complain and I was totally humbled by the whole experience.

[GaryFifer]

Agreed. You will see and experience the real Philippines.

Prior to Elsa and I getting married in 2004, I stayed at her parents' place in Tacloban, and their house was basically 1 giant room divided into 4 partitions with a kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and lounge. 6 others were also staying in this tiny building, there were no windows and nearly every night we had "brownout". I didn't complain and I was totally humbled by the whole experience.

I had a brownout. But it was because I had a bad egg.:) And Rob? How many times did cockroaches wake you in the night. They are noisy things.

[bornatbirth]

after all this time your being to question him :Erm:

are you aware of his family live in the philipines,thats why you shouldnt of waited 2 years to go and see him then you wouldnt be asking this question.

what hotel are you staying at because i have stayed at the sofitel and far cheaper hotels,i only sleep there and cant see the point in staying at a 5 star just for that,thats why i prefer cheaper hotels and so far they have been clean but the service can be not so good...but then considering what the staff get payed,what do you expect?

[walesrob]

How many times did cockroaches wake you in the night. They are noisy things.

Oh, we had a few, but I remember the mozzies more than anything else, they had a thing about Welsh blood :D

[somebody]

Excuse me for point out. Isn't that a bit snobby. Sounds a bit like Cybil Fawlty. Why not live as he does, then see his family and his home.However humble. After all, he has to come 10,000 miles and live in yours, so why are you not prepared to do the same for him?

Possibly on the first visit as a lady she might want the security of a Hotel and they may not wish to share rooms? Many households in the UK or Phill cant make a spare room avaiable..

[tuft249]

its hard to beleive a filipino man would be faithful to a western women or even one there own.if they werent around for such along time.waste of an airfare &the rest

[GaryFifer]

its hard to beleive a filipino man would be faithful to a western women or even one there own.if they werent around for such along time.waste of an airfare &the rest

Is that you Ajay?

[JimOttley]

Agreed. You will see and experience the real Philippines.

Prior to Elsa and I getting married in 2004, I stayed at her parents' place in Tacloban, and their house was basically 1 giant room divided into 4 partitions with a kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and lounge. 6 others were also staying in this tiny building, there were no windows and nearly every night we had "brownout". I didn't complain and I was totally humbled by the whole experience.

Totally agree :xxgrinning--00xx3: being there sharing in the real lives of real people is a humbling experience :xxgrinning--00xx3:


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Is that you Ajay?

sounds like him, right?:doh

[Queenbee]

sounds like him, right?:doh

hehe funny..:D

[Queenbee]

its hard to beleive a filipino man would be faithful to a western women or even one there own.if they werent around for such along time.waste of an airfare &the rest

it's the ugly truth!!!:icon_lol:

[englishbird]

Excuse me for point out. Isn't that a bit snobby. Sounds a bit like Cybil Fawlty. Why not live as he does, then see his family and his home.However humble. After all, he has to come 10,000 miles and live in yours, so why are you not prepared to do the same for him?

I think i can be snobby if i want!. Considering im paying for everything and that i am travelling alone to the Philippines on my own for the first time.

Im not going to be meeting his family when Im there and he doesnt have his own property as he is only home for 12 weeks of the year, so staying with him isn't an option. Do you not think that i would love to stay at his family home if i could, of course I would but on this occasion its just not practical

And, he is really looking forward to staying in a nice hotel as he lives in a cabin the size of a shoe box for 10 months at a time.

Im a snob and proud of it!!:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[englishbird]

its hard to beleive a filipino man would be faithful to a western women or even one there own.if they werent around for such along time.waste of an airfare &the rest

Whats your problem!!

[englishbird]

I think there some confusion. English rose is the lady who thinks she may be being scammed.

Im English bird, Im not being scammed. Im just planning my first visit to Manila to see my BF. I have seen him alot in the last 2 years but only on the cruise ships where he is working.

Apparently Im a snob for wanting to stay in a decent hotel.:icon_lol:.

Bornatbirth.

We will probably stay in either the somerset salcedo or the somerset Makati. Not sure which yet.

[triple5]

Its difficult to tell if you're being scammed from what you've said. Trust your instincts. The fact that you're suspicious after 2 years isn't a good sign, and somebody who lives in a cabin matched with somebody who will only stay in decent hotels doesn't sound like a match made in heaven. but they do say opposites attract. Good luck and enjoy your trip.

[englishbird]

Its difficult to tell if you're being scammed from what you've said. Trust your instincts. The fact that you're suspicious after 2 years isn't a good sign, and somebody who lives in a cabin matched with somebody who will only stay in decent hotels doesn't sound like a match made in heaven. but they do say opposites attract. Good luck and enjoy your trip.

thanks, im really looking forward to my trip. Its not me whos being scammed. Its Englishrose who thinks she may be being scammed.

He only lives in a cabin because he works on a cruise ship and thats where I met him. I was on holiday and he was working in the nightclub.

:D

[James Hubbard]

I think i can be snobby if i want!. Considering im paying for everything and that i am travelling alone to the Philippines on my own for the first time.

. . .

Im a snob and proud of it!!:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

Bird, with an attitude like that, your time in the Philippines will be hell.

Just sayin.

[Florge]

Bird, with an attitude like that, your time in the Philippines will be hell.

Just sayin.

soooooooo true!!!! :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

soooooooo true!!!! :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks Florge. I feel a Bagyo outside :(

English Bird doesn't realize that there are not poor/middle class/upper class areas in the Philippines in general, but it's very heterogeneous. Let me explain:

I stayed in a 5 star hotel in Manila, but you can't make the area 5 star. As soon as you leave the hotel, you get bitten by Mozzies, have cockroaches crawling on your toes, smell sewers, almost fall over the old homeless woman sleeping on the road:NoNo:, get the "eye-popping" foreigner stares,:yikes: have the poor and drug addicted children troubling you for money.:Brick:

If you are a snob, the Philippines is a very very bad place for you to visit, given all the above.:Erm:

[bornatbirth]

we are being a bit hard on her arnt we?

nothing wrong in being a snob when going on holiday and not all of us want to slum it up :Erm:

i dont mind it myself but i would rather stay in a nice hotel or anywhere with no bugs running around :xxgrinning--00xx3:

and you are right,sooner or later you will have to leave your nice hotel and will discover the real philipines but thats no reason to go native,thats why instead of waiting so long to see your bf or gf,i always recommend to go see them as soon as possible :D

[James Hubbard]

we are being a bit hard on her arnt we?

nothing wrong in being a snob when going on holiday and not all of us want to slum it up :Erm:

i dont mind it myself but i would rather stay in a nice hotel or anywhere with no bugs running around :xxgrinning--00xx3:

and you are right,sooner or later you will have to leave your nice hotel and will discover the real philipines but thats no reason to go native,thats why instead of waiting so long to see your bf or gf,i always recommend to go see them as soon as possible :D

Fair enough Born@, I just thought the attitude of being snobby and proud is one that will make a holiday in Phils very unhappy :)

[bornatbirth]

Fair enough Born@, I just thought the attitude of being snobby and proud is one that will make a holiday in Phils very unhappy :)

well if you go there thinking its like dubai it maybe,if you stay at the sofitel international for the entire trip,i feel its a waste of time of going to the philipines.

but as most of us are going to see someone,then sight seeing isnt so important.

but discovering how your future intented lifes there live is important too :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[tuft249]

Whats your problem!!

cant beleive someone could be so naive.you may want to think the best of people but you have to be realistic.asking people on this forum isnt going to get you the average persons answer is it?most people outside the forum would agree with me.

[bornatbirth]

cant beleive someone could be so naive.you may want to think the best of people but you have to be realistic.asking people on this forum isnt going to get you the average persons answer is it?most people outside the forum would agree with me.

why?

do you think im a sucker waiting to be scammed,those who do get scammed are beyond stupid!

i think most on the forum have there eyes wide open and you my friend seem a little bitter and twisted.

and please dont make assumptions about me and why do you think most average people will agree with you,maybe you can elaborate on this? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

why?

do you think im a sucker waiting to be scammed,those who do get scammed are beyond stupid!

i think most on the forum have there eyes wide open and you my friend seem a little bitter and twisted.

and please dont make assumptions about me and why do you think most average people will agree with you,maybe you can elaborate on this? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

:xxgrinning--00xx3::gp::smileybigtmouth:

[englishbird]

Bird, with an attitude like that, your time in the Philippines will be hell.

Just sayin.
Im not stupid , i know what to expect in Manila, I work in travel and have travelled to a lot of very poor areas in different countries. I just want somewhere decent to sleep, why is that so wrong?. I don't plan on spending the week holed up in the hotel. I want to see as much of the area as I can.

Thanks for sticking up for me Bornatbirth, i think James is being a little harsh as he will never know what its like to travel alone as a women, it can be scary at times.

James, im glad to hear your opinion, otherwise i wouldnt be on the forum:D

[englishbird]

cant beleive someone could be so naive.you may want to think the best of people but you have to be realistic.asking people on this forum isnt going to get you the average persons answer is it?most people outside the forum would agree with me.

Why are you on this forum??. Im here because im interested in other peoples opinions ( not yours though). The people on here have experience and knowledge of the Philippines which I am interested to hear.:action-smiley-081:

[James Hubbard]

Im not stupid , i know what to expect in Manila, I work in travel and have travelled to a lot of very poor areas in different countries. I just want somewhere decent to sleep, why is that so wrong?. I don't plan on spending the week holed up in the hotel. I want to see as much of the area as I can.

Thanks for sticking up for me Bornatbirth, i think James is being a little harsh as he will never know what its like to travel alone as a women, it can be scary at times.

James, im glad to hear your opinion, otherwise i wouldnt be on the forum:D

look bird, don't get angry at me. I live in the Philippines and I am giving you valuable info. The correct reply is "thank you james".

You're welcome in advance.

[englishbird]

look bird, don't get angry at me. I live in the Philippines and I am giving you valuable info. The correct reply is "thank you james".

You're welcome in advance.
Did you miss the bit where i said that im glad to hear your opinion?

Im not angry, and by the way the name is Englishbird not bird:icon_lol:

[James Hubbard]

Did you miss the bit where i said that im glad to hear your opinion?

Im not angry, and by the way the name is Englishbird not bird:icon_lol:

bahala na, it's somewhere close to the actual name EB!

cool you're welcome for my opinion :)

EnglishBird is your name? More interesting than like Alison Bates! :)

[James Hubbard]

Did you miss the bit where i said that im glad to hear your opinion?

that's coz you didn't :) i'm james :)

[englishbird]

bahala na, it's somewhere close to the actual name EB!

cool you're welcome for my opinion :)

EnglishBird is your name? More interesting than like Alison Bates! :)

My name is actually a very boring, common name, Tracey:icon_lol:.

As you are being nice to me now, i will ask you a question, if you dont mind.

I know its impossible to know and you havent got a crystal ball, but I was wondering what weather I can expect in late Nov. Im a little freaked out about the weather now:omg:.

Thanks

Bird

[James Hubbard]

My name is actually a very boring, common name, Tracey:icon_lol:.

As you are being nice to me now, i will ask you a question, if you dont mind.

I know its impossible to know and you havent got a crystal ball, but I was wondering what weather I can expect in late Nov. Im a little freaked out about the weather now:omg:.

Thanks

Bird

late november the weather will be beautiful.

Weather is crap now, but will be beautiful beach weather then!

[englishbird]

late november the weather will be beautiful.

Weather is crap now, but will be beautiful beach weather then!



Thank you James:Hellooo:

[JimOttley]

Thank you James:Hellooo:

November - December is one of the nicest times of the year in my opinion, you will still get the rain but you will also get a lot of sun and it's a nice temperature in the evenings 24C or so and often nice heat during the day too.


Jim

[englishbird]

November - December is one of the nicest times of the year in my opinion, you will still get the rain but you will also get a lot of sun and it's a nice temperature in the evenings 24C or so and often nice heat during the day too.


Jim

Thanks Jim:Hellooo:

[James Hubbard]

Thanks Jim:Hellooo:

I agree with the other jim ...

here's the score ...

Nov - March - great weather, you'll love it. just make sure you keep cool
April - June - VERY VERY HOT
July - sept - rain and storms :(
Oct -Nov - TYPHOONS,SCARY :( :omg: current, see ondoy etc etc ... I'm scared every day ..........

[IainBusby]

November - December is one of the nicest times of the year in my opinion, you will still get the rain but you will also get a lot of sun and it's a nice temperature in the evenings 24C or so and often nice heat during the day too.


Jim

The first time I visited Phils, I arrived on the first of November, I stayed for 2 weeks and I never saw a drop of rain, although I was much further south in Mindanao for most of my time there.
Iain.

[tuft249]

why?

do you think im a sucker waiting to be scammed,those who do get scammed are beyond stupid!

i think most on the forum have there eyes wide open and you my friend seem a little bitter and twisted.

and please dont make assumptions about me and why do you think most average people will agree with you,maybe you can elaborate on this? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

dont remember saying anything to u &as for those that get scammed beyond stupid that would be northerner would it? any one could easily be scammed wouldnt make them stupid. just makes u stupid for that statement no one could ever know what their partner is doing with 100%certainty in uk or phils .most people couldnt trust someone they not see for along time esp a man wouldnt u say. and i know sfa about u.where did i mention u ?