Proud To Be British

[James Hubbard]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now. :)

[triple5]

Good thread James :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Likes:
Sunday roast
Music
Football

Dislikes:
The politics
Yob culture
Celebrity culture
Snobs
Weather
Prices

I'm not sure about our so called "World class eduction". When teaching our kids we seem to be lacking in one fundamental lesson - respect for elders.

For all my dislikes, I am still proud to be British... just

[Jay&Zobel]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now. :)


I'm not a british yet but been living here for three years. Things I like in Great Britain:

1) Museums are world class :xxgrinning--00xx3:
2) Unspoilt nature and wildlife & (cows, horses, sheeps are fat hehe, unlike in the PI, they're so skinny:D)
3) Multi-Cultural
4) et al...

[marlyn&kenny]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now. :)

Nice thread S' james

[Bluebirdjones]

1) Temperate Climate .....
global warming is changing this
2) World Class Education.....
not anymore, see the recent comments from Sir Terry Leahy (tesco's boss), and echoed by the BT Chairman
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)......
mmmm.... altho' the youth of today seemed determined to change all that
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . . I'm afraid that that world-renown tolerance & respect is fast evaporating


I'm counting down the days I can "jump ship".
There's only two things I'm gonna miss ....
a pint of Guinness :party-smiley-012: &
the Bluebirds :football3: :xxsmilie_fussball:

[James Hubbard]

1) Temperate Climate .....
global warming is changing this
2) World Class Education.....
not anymore, see the recent comments from Sir Terry Leahy (tesco's boss), and echoed by the BT Chairman
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)......
mmmm.... altho' the youth of today seemed determined to change all that
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . . I'm afraid that that world-renown tolerance & respect is fast evaporating


I'm counting down the days I can "jump ship".
There's only two things I'm gonna miss ....
a pint of Guinness :party-smiley-012: &
the Bluebirds :football3: :xxsmilie_fussball:

You're a ray of sunshine:

trust me my friend, I have jumped ship, and I can't wait to jump ship back to good old blighty. This was about why you're proud to be british, or what your favourite things are about britain. As for your points ...

1) Global warming - Looking forward to it

2) Oxbridge. Compare a graduate from cambridge to a graduate from university of the philippines and you will see the educational disparity.

3)English gentry still exists, unless you go to liverpool :Cuckoo:. Yob culture exists everywhere. In uk, they use small blades and handguns, in the Philippines they use bollos and pickpocketing. Trust me, in the UK, people are too proud to charge a foreigner more. It's a dignity thing.

4)Bluebird said I'm afraid that that world-renown tolerance & respect is fast evaporating Nope, not whilst occupational rules are in place and not whilst we are a welcoming environment for other cultures, I don't buy it. Compare a Filipino family's life in mid-england with their life back home in Philippines.


To get this thread back on track ...


Good thread James :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I am still proud to be British... just

Thanks trips :)


Nice thread S' james

Thanks MariKen!

If you all want to you can green blob me :D

What things do you LIKE or LOVE about the United Kingdom? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[GaryFifer]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now. :)


1 The variety of flora and fauna here and the beauty of the landscape I would miss. Except for wasps. They can die. There is no evolutionary purpose for a wasp.
2 Trust me our education is world class. It is there. Try do an Open University course. Do not listen to the newspapers. We are still good leaders in many research areas
3 Well I would assume that applies to queing. Noone ques like the British. That is a perfect social example. I have heard in China, they beat each other up to get into trains.
4 Respect no. Tolerate yes.

[James Hubbard]

1 The variety of flora and fauna here and the beauty of the landscape I would miss. Except for wasps. They can die. There is no evolutionary purpose for a wasp.
2 Trust me our education is world class. It is there. Try do an Open University course. Do not listen to the newspapers. We are still good leaders in many research areas
3 Well I would assume that applies to queing. Noone ques like the British. That is a perfect social example. I have heard in China, they beat each other up to get into trains.
4 Respect no. Tolerate yes.

1) Yes, totally agree
2) It is world class comparitively. I am very proud of british education :)
3) In Hong Kong I sustained quite a few injuries trying to get onto the MTR. Very selfish people the Hong Kongies.
4) Respect NO, Tolerate YES, still, that's better than "abuse the foreigner to get his money whilst you're nice to his/her face" right?

[James Hubbard]

Also, in MOST parts of the UK (don't flame me, i said MOST) ...


we don't need signs like my avatar, "Bawal Umihi Dito" . . . our UK British people urinate in toilets, not pee all over the street.


Also

We have a great sewerage system ... it isn't open in the streets.


Also

People in UK use the Bins in which to put their litter!

Also

The quality of the products and services we offer in UK is much higher (compared with Philippines)

Also

Most people are not lazy and have some kind of work ethic (Apart from lazy dole-hoppers)

Also

Maybe I should file this one under "rant" section, but ...

In the Philippines, many many people have 6 children with an income of 200 Pesos per day without thinking about the kids. I find this morally reprehensible, when you think that there are free pills and condoms being handed out, and free community family planning seminars, that they don't bother to go to because they just want to play basketball, drink tanduay and chikka chikka. Then many of those choose to get their children to beg off me, because I'm the rich white man, and I should supply their kids with food and I should be the one to provide for them! I have just two words for those people ... ... but the swearing rule prevents me from expressing that thought :)

In the UK, that doesn't really happen so much - people are educated, til they are 16 and learn about condoms and pills etc (and don't talk about the chavs, as they are a minority)!

[GaryFifer]

[Also, in MOST parts of the UK (don't flame me, i said MOST) ...

we don't need signs like my avatar, "Bawal Umihi Dito" . . . our UK British people urinate in toilets, not pee all over the street.

British people do pee out in the streets, just when they are drunk, (just do not get caught doing it)

Also

We have a great sewerage system ... it isn't open in the streets.

Ya whats up with that James? I mean Filipinos have mobile phones, television, but no sewerage.


Also

People in UK use the Bins in which to put their litter

Yeah. I wish they'd do the same with dog s**t, its like turd terrace outside my house to the shop. I hate that!.

Hmm some of our high school kids have bad habits eat outside bakers the dirty little beggars never use bins.

[James Hubbard]

Free Medical treatment :D I ADORE the NHS :D

[Pepe n Pilar]

You're a ray of sunshine:

trust me my friend, I have jumped ship, and I can't wait to jump ship back to good old blighty. This was about why you're proud to be british, or what your favourite things are about britain. As for your points ...

1) Global warming - Looking forward to it

2) Oxbridge. Compare a graduate from cambridge to a graduate from university of the philippines and you will see the educational disparity.

3)English gentry still exists, unless you go to liverpool :Cuckoo:. Yob culture exists everywhere. In uk, they use small blades and handguns, in the Philippines they use bollos and pickpocketing. Trust me, in the UK, people are too proud to charge a foreigner more. It's a dignity thing.

4)Bluebird said I'm afraid that that world-renown tolerance & respect is fast evaporating Nope, not whilst occupational rules are in place and not whilst we are a welcoming environment for other cultures, I don't buy it. Compare a Filipino family's life in mid-england with their life back home in Philippines.
To get this thread back on track ...



Thanks trips :)



Thanks MariKen!

If you all want to you can green blob me :D

What things do you LIKE or LOVE about the United Kingdom? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Nice thread James:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:. Not a Brit yet but I love everything about UK and i love many things about the Philippines as well:xxgrinning--00xx3:. I Cannot make comparison because one is in the Northern part and one is in the South Far Eastern part of the world. One is considered as one of the richest country in the world and one belongs to the 3rd world country.
Can you please elaborate a bit on statements numbers 2 & 4?
Regards

Cheers!:)

[GaryFifer]

4) Respect NO, Tolerate YES, still, that's better than "abuse the foreigner to get his money whilst you're nice to his/her face" right

With regard to 4. I have been on the recieving end of mr johnny foreigner who will refuse to give money back with faulty, damaged products. That relates to politeness of Britishness too! Noone else would put up with that. American are good at complaining though.

[James Hubbard]

Nice thread James:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:. Not a Brit yet but I love everything about UK and i love many things about the Philippines as well:xxgrinning--00xx3:. I Cannot make comparison because one is in the Northern part and one is in the South Far Eastern part of the world. One is considered as one of the richest country in the world and one belongs to the 3rd world country.
Can you please elaborate a bit on statements numbers 2 & 4?

Cheers!:)



Yes. I can,

Number 2)

ok, compare a Cambridge educated ... teacher to a UofP educated teacher. The difference will be immense. Generally the educational standard, the scholarly standard and the research standard in the UK is immense ... particularly within the Russell Group of Universities, compared to the rather ramshackle Universities in the Philippines. I checked the site of a certain Cebu Med school which hadn't been updated for several years. Lazy web developers, but does that mean their research isn't current? Possibly.


Number 4)

We are a kind people, the British. I mean, in civilised company, we treat people as individuals, and so if it's Dr Rashid Khan, or Dr Robert Kennedy, we think nothing of the difference, whereas in the Philippines, people see a white guy and they jump to several erroneous conclusions

-I am american (I am NOT)
-I am rich (I AM NOT)
-I wish to pay for their child's food/their education/their bus fare/their beer/their baby's nappies/their cigarettes etc (I don't wish to pay for any of these, because I am not rich)
-I am stupid eg: I will pay 500 peso for a 5 minute taxi ride, coz I'm stupid and rich ...:cwm23::cwm23::Brick::Brick::Brick:


As for what G2J said


With regard to 4. I have been on the recieving end of mr johnny foreigner who will refuse to give money back with faulty, damaged products.

Actually, all the time I lived in Birmingham, I never got scammed once by a foreigner, and I lived in little pakistan area at the time :D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[GaryFifer]

Where are the library and Museum in Philippines? I tried hard to find many library but only came across their overpriced National Book Store. Noone could afford any of the stuff in there.


I have heard that Philippines main problem with college graduates, is that the government imposes compulsory Philippine subjects, which is mainly useless material about Joze Rizal. I sure it is fascinating material to read but what use is it? I am sure the dead man would not approve of this, and wish for diversity, which was what he was purported to do.So to inflict this on students does not give them the tools needed for the modern world.

[Arthur Little]

Free Medical treatment :D I ADORE the NHS :D

Now here, :iagree: totally, James ... it's world-famous; frankly, I'm surprised no one else has thought fit to mention it! It should be at the top of the list.

[James Hubbard]

Where are the library and Museum in Philippines? I tried hard to find many libarary but only came across their overpriced National Book Store. Noone could afford any of the stuff in there.


I have heard that Philippines main problem with college graduates, is that the government imposes compulsory Philippine subjects, which is mainly useless material about Joze Rizal. I sure it is fascinating material to read but what use is it? I am sure the dead man would not approve of this, and wish for diversity, which was what he was purported to do.So to inflict this on students does not give them the tools needed for the modern world.

That's right, I have seen nothing and heard nothing about any museum or library here. My wife was amazed when I told her I could take her into a local museum for free. .... As for the compulsory info in Philippines studies - not much good if you're doing a Physics degree ha? . . .

[James Hubbard]

Now here, :iagree: totally, James ... it's world-famous; frankly, I'm surprised no one else has thought fit to mention it! It should be at the top of the list.

Yes, I should have mentioned it first, you're right Arthur. I am intensely proud of our medical care facilities, and the lack of costs associated with them, when I think about family friends who have passed away in the Philippines because they didn't have the money to pay for their medical treatment or medicine. In a place where birthing mothers and babies die because they can't pay for a Cesarean section, I am definitely Proud To Be British!

[James Hubbard]

Let me add to the list of things to be proud of:

-Pub Grub
-Variety of beers and spirits
-Stephen Fry
-Birmingham (heavenly place)
-Tesco
-Christmas hoopla with snow
-Chicken tikka massala (created in scotland)
-BALTI (created in birmingham)


Yes, we make nicer indian food than indians

-British cheese
-Chocolate Fingers (ya, ya, someone will make a dirty joke)
-Creme eggs
-Fish and Chips
-Scotland
-The queen and all that pomposity
-Our wonderful history
-Our ruddy great language that all the world wants to speak

[Pepe n Pilar]

Yes. I can,

Number 2)

ok, compare a Cambridge educated ... teacher to a UofP educated teacher. The difference will be immense. Generally the educational standard, the scholarly standard and the research standard in the UK is immense ... particularly within the Russell Group of Universities, compared to the rather ramshackle Universities in the Philippines. I checked the site of a certain Cebu Med school which hadn't been updated for several years. Lazy web developers, but does that mean their research isn't current? Possibly.


Number 4)

We are a kind people, the British. I mean, in civilised company, we treat people as individuals, and so if it's Dr Rashid Khan, or Dr Robert Kennedy, we think nothing of the difference, whereas in the Philippines, people see a white guy and they jump to several erroneous conclusions

-I am american (I am NOT)
-I am rich (I AM NOT)
-I wish to pay for their child's food/their education/their bus fare/their beer/their baby's nappies/their cigarettes etc (I don't wish to pay for any of these, because I am not rich)
-I am stupid eg: I will pay 500 peso for a 5 minute taxi ride, coz I'm stupid and rich ...:cwm23::cwm23::Brick::Brick::Brick:


As for what G2J said


With regard to 4. I have been on the recieving end of mr johnny foreigner who will refuse to give money back with faulty, damaged products.

Actually, all the time I lived in Birmingham, I never got scammed once by a foreigner, and I lived in little pakistan area at the time :D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Number 2) There are many Universities in the Philippines that are accredited with foreign universities and one of them is the University of the Philippines.

Number 4) Yes you are kind and so are filipinos. It is just a matter of being in the right company.. Same... Same..

Some filipinos thought foreigners are all rich..no...no.... :NoNo::NoNo:
Some filipinos know they are not...:D those who have been abroad and/or those who have knowledge of the life in other countries(either by reading the books, or watching the news or heard stories from their relatives/friends). Compare the lifestyle of a middle class/upper middle class Brit to that of the middle class/upper middle class filipino. :):xxgrinning--00xx3:

As to scammers, thieves or robbers they are in every country huh!:Brick:. Just the other day a Brit lady said there was a teenage bloke came in the store and picked one of the t-shirts and rolled it and hid in his armpit and off he went out of the store....:omg:
And an old Brit lady asked for a refund of her coat bought 3 days ago insisted even without a ticket. Refund was made and Manager noticed the item was exchanged with her old coat bec of some stains on it. Huh! an old lady cheating??... As i've said it is everywhere. We fiipinos look up and has high expectations about this country. We learn to love, adapt and accept the culture. It is just that sometimes we are astonished, stunned.... because that is not what we expect....
:)

[Arthur Little]

:Erm: Not so sure about our *Education System(s) though [best if I refer to *them in the plural sense, as the state-run establishments we have in Scotland vary a great deal from their counterparts in the rest of the UK ... and, to the best of my knowledge, always have done since schooling became compulsory in the 1870s].

It is well-documented that these days, there's an ever-increasing number of school-leavers with far more A-Levels/Highers/Standard Grades, whatever, tucked under their belt than at any time in the past. Yet, how many of those youngsters have sufficient grounding in the so-called '3-R's'? Indeed, it's much the same story with university graduates ... a goodly proportion of whom can neither spell nor count properly. :NoNo: Sure, they're whizz kids with computers and the like. But their basic command of the English Language can be abysmal, thanks to the ubiquitous practice of phonetic texting. And their constant reliance on electronic calculators takes away the need to work out the simplest forms of mental arithmetic in their heads.

So much for progress. In my opinion (for what it's worth) Modern Technology has a lot to answer for! But then, perhaps I'm just an old "fuddy-duddy" and ... :omg: I'd better stop NOW - lest I begin to seem like a carbon-copy of our "late" (un)lamented contributor, Ayjay!

[James Hubbard]

Number 2) There are many Universities in the Philippines that are accredited with foreign universities and one of them is the University of the Philippines.

Number 4) Yes you are kind and so are filipinos. It is just a matter of being in the right company.. Same... Same..
Some filipinos thought foreigners are all rich..no...no.... :NoNo::NoNo:
Some filipinos know they are not...:D those who have been abroad and/or those that has knowledge of the life in other countries.Compare the lifestyle of a middle class/upper middle class Brit to that of the middle class/upper middle class filipino. :):xxgrinning--00xx3:

As to scammers, thieves or robbers they are in every country huh!:Brick:. Just the other day a Brit lady said there was a teenage bloke came in the store and picked one of the t-shirts and rolled it and hid in his armpit and off he went out of the store....:omg:

:)

Problem is, due to the financial disparity, perhaps 80% of Filipinos are as I have described, and desire to be like the upper echelon you have described above. All I'll say is ... don't make a rule based on exceptions. Most filipinos who are not legally made to receive an education, think these things I mentioned.

Scammers: not so much in the UK. The law is enforced too much to make it an issue for britain. Again, ask yourself, who gets shafted more ... a filipino in the UK, or a Brit in the Philippines?

As for university, all I'm saying is ... look at any list compiled on the top 500 or 1000 universities in the world, you will see that UK and US lead these league tables. Philippines is nowhere to be found.

I think those corrupt in-charges want to keep the masses minds dumbed down so that they'll accept ridiculous corruption without being equipped mentally to argue the point or complain - just to say "bahala na".

tHAT'S just my 2 peso.

[James Hubbard]

:Erm: counterparts ... compulsory ... sufficient ...goodly proportion...abysmal ...... ubiquitous

wotz demz wrds meen?:Help1:

[triple5]

Apologies, NHS should definitely have been top of my list also.

[James Hubbard]

Apologies, NHS should definitely have been top of my list also.

maybe Trips and I are prime examples that our education system isn't what it should be :doh:xxgrinning--00xx3::omg::Hellooo:

[triple5]

I think those corrupt in-charges want to keep the masses minds dumbed down so that they'll accept ridiculous corruption without being equipped mentally to argue the point or complain

Same could be said here in the UK :icon_lol:

[James Hubbard]

Same could be said here in the UK :icon_lol:

well, no, I mean, take a philosophy class at a good uni here and you'll have excellent critical thinking skills ...

besides, we can tell where the money's going ... "freedom of information" (i should put that on my list :xxgrinning--00xx3:)

[Arthur Little]

Let me add to the list of things to be proud of:

-Pub Grub
-Variety of beers and spirits
-Stephen Fry
-Birmingham (heavenly place)
-Tesco
-Christmas hoopla with snow
-Chicken tikka massala (created in scotland)
-BALTI (created in birmingham)


Yes, we make nicer indian food than indians

-British cheese
-Chocolate Fingers (ya, ya, someone will make a dirty joke)
-Creme eggs
-Fish and Chips
-Scotland
-The queen and all that pomposity
-Our wonderful history
-Our ruddy great language that all the world wants to speak



Again, I'm 100% in agreement ... :Erm: make that 101 per cent, if we can include 'Glasgow humour' - simply ra BEST! :icon_lol:

[triple5]

maybe Trips and I are prime examples that our education system isn't what it should be :doh:xxgrinning--00xx3::omg::Hellooo:

I blame the parents :icon_lol:

[James Hubbard]

Again, I'm 100% in agreement ... :Erm: make that 101 per cent, if we can include 'Glasgow humour' - simply the BEST! :icon_lol:

True.

-Glasgow Humour

(the great Billy Connolly being one of my favourites)

...

I will not include "glasgow kisses" :NoNo:

[James Hubbard]

I blame the parents :icon_lol:

Trips and I are twins :) Actually, twin brothers from different mothers :):doh

[James Hubbard]

I forgot to add

Fish Fingers

[Arthur Little]

wotz demz wrds meen?:Help1:

:icon_lol: Just showing off MY lack of a university education. Nice one, mate!

[triple5]

I forgot to add

Fish Fingers

For your list of dislikes? Now that's definitely an area the Philippines excels in - good fish.

[James Hubbard]

:icon_lol: Just showing off MY lack of a university education. Nice one, mate!

I remember seeing a learned lawyer looking up the word "recourse" in his dictionary! The client thought it was some learned legal tome. He said "are you looking for a legal precedent" and the lawyer had to go back to "p" and look for "precedent" :doh

I guess he went to the same uni as I did :yikes::Erm::doh:bigcry::cwm3::Cuckoo::Cuckoo:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Hi James, i'm sad to know University of the Philippines is nowhere to be found in the list compiled on the top 500 or 1000 Universities in the world .:NoNo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Philippines

[JimOttley]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now. :)

I love Scotland, the Lochs, the Glens, the Coastlines, the Islands.

I love the Lake District.

I like the TV strangely, mostly the documentaries on Sky and the Beeb and as a Sci-fi fan Sky One is great.

I am proud of our history, at least proud of some of it, we did a lot of bad things like the rest of the colonial powers of old.

I do like our general sense of fairness, however it is I fear a dying trait, far too few see past narrow self interest these days.

I like the general lack of deadly creatures, earthquakes, volcano's i.e. our relative immunity from major natural disasters.

Our infrastructure although it could be much better.

And I am proud of our overall contribution to our understanding of all aspects of the Universe we live in (in all branches of fundamental science).

There are though lots of things I am not particularly fond of too but I'll save that for another day.


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Hi James, i'm sad to know University of the Philippines is nowhere to be found in the University listings.:NoNo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Philippines

Although, the issue is funding.

Research undertaken in universities which contributes to their all over score depends largely on the funding awarded.

Therefore, the talent of the people aside, the fund-raising abilities of the universities is probably the most important thing, because they can then afford to hire the best to carry out the best research and therefore develop an international reputation.

The UK and USA are awesome at this, hence, better Universities.

[James Hubbard]

also to the list

-Darwin
-Kelvin
-Hawking
-Newton
-Goldacre

any others I failed to mention?


-Alton towers
-Blackpool
-British style kebab

Yeah, I am proud of these things :D

Oh yes,

-No Mozzies (mosquitoes)

[Peanutz]

Also, in MOST parts of the UK (don't flame me, i said MOST) ...


we don't need signs like my avatar, "Bawal Umihi Dito" . . . our UK British people urinate in toilets, not pee all over the street.


Also

We have a great sewerage system ... it isn't open in the streets.


Also

People in UK use the Bins in which to put their litter!

Also

The quality of the products and services we offer in UK is much higher (compared with Philippines)

Also

Most people are not lazy and have some kind of work ethic (Apart from lazy dole-hoppers)

Also

Maybe I should file this one under "rant" section, but ...

In the Philippines, many many people have 6 children with an income of 200 Pesos per day without thinking about the kids. I find this morally reprehensible, when you think that there are free pills and condoms being handed out, and free community family planning seminars, that they don't bother to go to because they just want to play basketball, drink tanduay and chikka chikka. Then many of those choose to get their children to beg off me, because I'm the rich white man, and I should supply their kids with food and I should be the one to provide for them! I have just two words for those people ... ... but the swearing rule prevents me from expressing that thought :)

In the UK, that doesn't really happen so much - people are educated, til they are 16 and learn about condoms and pills etc (and don't talk about the chavs, as they are a minority)!

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

:)

[JimOttley]

Where are the library and Museum in Philippines? I tried hard to find many library but only came across their overpriced National Book Store. Noone could afford any of the stuff in there.


Never found a library Gary but I've been in lots of Museums in Manila.

Also Corregidor the whole island is a museum :)

The Pacific War Memorial, I found this place very moving.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/228252074_b0f5148e68_b.jpg


The ruins of the Mile Long Barracks

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/228217468_403e0e970b_b.jpg


The guns of Corregidor

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/97/228275920_e187c8bd13_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/92/228252077_4a722fef02_b.jpg

I agree though National Bookstore is a bit expensive :)

Jim

[Tish]

I love everything about British including SOAPS :icon_lol:

Tish

[JimOttley]

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

:)

Very true Peanutz :iagree:

It takes time, I was in tears reading the words of Jose Rizal on the walls of a memorial in The National Museum of the Philippines, I was feeling a bit fragile at the time :D but they were poignant words.

The country has had a hell of a history it is still growing and maturing, that so many are so kind and friendly for all they have to go through on a daily basis is a great credit to the people of the Philippines!


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

:)

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

[Peanutz]

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

Hold fire on there James, the process of civilisation takes years...ages...to shape one country, there is no blaming game on here, I am stating facts.
As the saying goes 'You cannot built Rome in one day', poverty and ignorance cannot be eradicated easily, to educate people and change their mentality is a long complicated process.
I absolutely agree that there is no excuse for ignorance in this modern world, but these words can apply only to those people who can understand.

I do not lose hope that one day the children of my children would inherit a different reality of Philippines.

We are getting there :)

[JimOttley]

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

James as I mentioned recently on another thread I come from a family in Scotland where my mother was the youngest of 11 and my dad the eldest of 13, it's not long ago that this was common in the UK, every country goes through this at some stage and every country has to come to an accommodation with it at some point.

The Filipino's will get to grips with this at some point same as we did.

Jim

[Peanutz]

And please...read my words carefully, cause being a victim is not my cup of tea...

[JimOttley]

Let me add to the list of things to be proud of:

-Pub Grub
-Variety of beers and spirits
-Stephen Fry
-Birmingham (heavenly place)
-Tesco
-Christmas hoopla with snow
-Chicken tikka massala (created in scotland)
-BALTI (created in birmingham)


Yes, we make nicer indian food than indians

-British cheese
-Chocolate Fingers (ya, ya, someone will make a dirty joke)
-Creme eggs
-Fish and Chips
-Scotland
-The queen and all that pomposity
-Our wonderful history
-Our ruddy great language that all the world wants to speak



Ahh think yer just awfy homesick laddie ;) :D


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Ahh think yer just awfy homesick laddie ;) :D


Jim

you're damn right matey! ;)

even peanutz is making me think of mushy peas, so whilst we're arguing, I'm thinkin, I miss my local chippy (on the corner of my street - if you must know) :bigcry:

[James Hubbard]

And please...read my words carefully, cause being a victim is not my cup of tea...

I have very rarely met a Filipino who will blame his country or fellow-country man for any wrongdoing! That's not good.

I'll not argue, because, this is not a debate, it's about what we LOVE about the UK,

so peaz, what do you LOVE about the uK?

[Peanutz]

you're damn right matey! ;)

even peanutz is making me think of mushy peas, so whilst we're arguing, I'm thinkin, I miss my local chippy (on the corner of my street - if you must know) :bigcry:

By the way, I love English Sunday Roast with lots of gravy...
and..and...cream tea one of my favorites!:rolleyes:

[James Hubbard]

By the way, I love English Sunday Roast with lots of gravy...
and..and...cream tea one of my favorites!:rolleyes:

what about bailey's cream tea?

sunday roast is beautiful british stuff :D

ooohhh, stuffing:bigcry:

I am homesick now that i've been gone for 11.5 months! I'm comin back in 2 weeks lolz and I am homesick NOW! lol

[Peanutz]

I have very rarely met a Filipino who will blame his country or fellow-country man for any wrongdoing! That's not good.

I'll not argue, because, this is not a debate, it's about what we LOVE about the UK,

so peaz, what do you LOVE about the uK?

Ahh! You should hear me talking about ALL the wrong doings about my country and my fellow-country man, I think they would call me very unpatriotic and suplada. I am aware of its ugly side.
I cannot ignore where I came from, and I suffer when I see my fellow Filipino's who are suffering because of their own ignorance, but no one is to blame...let history do its course and hopefully one day it will be a better place for the younger generation.

[Peanutz]

The Filipino's will get to grips with this at some point same as we did.

Jim[/QUOTE]


Damn right Jim!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

Ahh! You should hear me talking about ALL the wrong doings about my country and my fellow-country man, I think they would call me very unpatriotic and suplada. I am aware of its ugly side.
I cannot ignore where I came from, and I suffer when I see my fellow Filipino's who are suffering because of their own ignorance, but no one is to blame...let history do its course and hopefully one day it will be a better place for the younger generation.

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain :)

[JimOttley]

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain :)

Fair point mate but you yourself were the first one to open it wider in post #9 ;)

I kept my first post on this thread deliberately about things that were special about home for exactly that reason :)


Jim

[Peanutz]

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain :)

Now that is a very English thing:icon_lol:

[Tish]

Cheese and Onion pie with bake beans.

Pie, Peas and gravy

Jam rolly polly

Apple pie and cream or with custard

Any type of sarnies with crisps

The list goes on and on for me :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Fair point mate but you yourself were the first one to open it wider in post #9 ;)

I kept my first post on this thread deliberately about things that were special about home for exactly that reason :)


Jim

i can only compare it to the philippines, as those are the only 2 i have lived in, yet you make a fair point, made well too.

[James Hubbard]

Cheese and Onion pie with bake beans.

Pie, Peas and gravy

Jam rolly polly

Apple pie and cream or with custard

Any type of sarnies with crisps

The list goes on and on for me :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

beautiful :)

also

Jaguar Cars Ltd

[James Hubbard]

Now that is a very English thing:icon_lol:

thank you!

maraming maraming salamat (as they say on wowwowwee)!

[Tish]

beautiful :)

also

Jaguar Cars Ltd

Don't forget Ford Ka :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Don't forget Ford Ka :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

You gotta be the one to lower the tone, ha lola? :NoNo::doh:action-smiley-081:

[Tish]

You gotta be the one to lower the tone, ha lola? :NoNo::doh:action-smiley-081:

Jag then :NoNo:

Love a Merc though :D

Tish

[JimOttley]

i can only compare it to the philippines, as those are the only 2 i have lived in, yet you make a fair point, made well too.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Aston Martin & Jaguar although neither are truly British anymore.

Music British pop and rock is becoming the classical music of the future.
(and as a side reference just look how popular the Beatles are in the Phils :D)

Our Architecture classic and modern (as long as you forget the 50's and 60's)


Jim

[JimOttley]

beautiful :)

also

Jaguar Cars Ltd

heheheh :D

A bit of overlap I was typing too slow :D


Jim

[James Hubbard]

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Aston Martin & Jaguar although neither are truly British anymore.

Music British pop and rock is becoming the classical music of the future.
(and as a side reference just look how popular the Beatles are in the Phils :D)

Our Architecture classic and modern (as long as you forget the 50's and 60's)


Jim

re: aston and jag: let me enjoy my illusion :D

re: music. We rock musically :D

Architecture - agree with you dude!

[James Hubbard]

Jag then :NoNo:

Love a Merc though :D

Tish

why do you need to bring the germans into this huh???? :NoNo:

lol:action-smiley-081::action-smiley-081::action-smiley-081::yikes:

[Tish]

why do you need to bring the germans into this huh???? :NoNo:

lol:action-smiley-081::action-smiley-081::action-smiley-081::yikes:

Ooppsss... Aston Martin then :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

BTW, I drive a Peugeot :doh

[Tish]

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Aston Martin & Jaguar although neither are truly British anymore.

Music British pop and rock is becoming the classical music of the future.
(and as a side reference just look how popular the Beatles are in the Phils :D)

Our Architecture classic and modern (as long as you forget the 50's and 60's)


Jim

I love the Beatles

Shirley Bassey

Tom Jones

And Ozzy Osbourne..oh yeah :Rasp: Lurrrv the accent :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Ooppsss... Aston Martin then :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

BTW, I drive a Peugeot :doh

SO you reject the gerry's just to bring up the French?

Where are your LOYALTIES? ha?

[James Hubbard]

I love the Beatles

Shirley Bassey

Tom Jones

And Ozzy Osbourne..oh yeah :Rasp: Lurrrv the accent :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

and gareth gates :D

[Tish]

SO you reject the gerry's just to bring up the French?

Where are your LOYALTIES? ha?

With you James :Rasp:

Tish

[James Hubbard]

With you James :Rasp:

Tish

If your loyalties are with me, then they are with britain, for when cut, I bleed red, white and blue, yet, it's hard to make me bleed, because Brits are tough!

Britain is great :D Lurve it!

[triple5]

Give it a few weeks, James, and you'll soon be complaining about the weather, the prices, Labour etc :D

[Tish]

If your loyalties are with me, then they are with britain, for when cut, I bleed red, white and blue, yet, it's hard to make me bleed, because Brits are tough!

Britain is great :D Lurve it!

Strong as an OX huh? :Erm:

I also bleed red, white and blue but with a hint of yellow :Rasp::Rasp:

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Give it a few weeks, James, and you'll soon be complaining about the weather, the prices, Labour etc :D

so true!

I am british, therefore I crave disappointment!!!

[James Hubbard]

red, white and blue but with a hint of yellow :Rasp::Rasp:

Tish

Ihi?:piss2::piss2::piss2::piss2::piss2:

[Tawi2]

Aston Martin have a showroom very close to me,have you seen the prices:cwm24: All I ever missed when I was abroad was a decent cuppa :)

[James Hubbard]

Aston Martin have a showroom very close to me,have you seen the prices:cwm24: All I ever missed when I was abroad was a decent cuppa :)

you're an easy man to please!

Were you casing the joint when when you were at the Aston showroom? :xxgrinning--00xx3::action-smiley-081::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[JimOttley]

Aston Martin have a showroom very close to me,have you seen the prices:cwm24: All I ever missed when I was abroad was a decent cuppa :)

Unreliable, overpriced, badly screwed together but oh so terribly terribly agonisingly pretty :D :icon_lol:

Part of that classic British design thing :)


Jim

[Tawi2]

I am easy-peasy to please,wherever I lay my hat and all that :)I always pass it,its only a few streets away,the prices are ridiculous,out of my range nowadays having fallen on hard times :icon_lol:

[JimOttley]

you're an easy man to please!

Were you casing the joint when when you were at the Aston showroom? :xxgrinning--00xx3::action-smiley-081::xxgrinning--00xx3:

All I missed was a decent curry and I could have coped with that as I like the local variety in Manila ;)


Jim

[JimOttley]

I am easy-peasy to please,wherever I lay my hat and all that :)I always pass it,its only a few streets away,the prices are ridiculous,out of my range nowadays having fallen on hard times :icon_lol:

Me too Tawi :)


Jim

[Tawi2]

Me too Tawi :)


Jim
Read my signature Jim,its the truth mate,when your up you never think its going to end,unfortunately sometimes it does,with a bump :icon_lol:But if you have had it once you can always get it again:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

Unreliable, overpriced, badly screwed together but oh so terribly terribly agonisingly pretty :D :icon_lol:

Part of that classic British design thing :)


Jim

yes indeed my fellow jim ...

that's something to be proud of! :D

hang on

jim hub and Jim Ott ...

Jim X Jim = Jim squared

(i can't do superscript here :bigcry: )

[JimOttley]

Read my signature Jim,its the truth mate,when your up you never think its going to end,unfortunately sometimes it does,with a bump :icon_lol:But if you have had it once you can always get it again:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I have mate and I kind of guessed that, I'm in the same place just now :)


Jim

[James Hubbard]

I have mate and I kind of guessed that, I'm in the same place just now :)


Jim

you in a rough patch mate?

[JimOttley]

yes indeed my fellow jim ...

that's something to be proud of! :D

hang on

jim hub and Jim Ott ...

Jim X Jim = Jim squared

(i can't do superscript here :bigcry: )

:icon_lol:


Jim

[JimOttley]

you in a rough patch mate?

Lost my business and my home this year, I am one of the lucky ones I have a good well paying job (Software Architect) but lots of other problems still on the horizon, too many to go over again.

Short synopsis is two kids and partner in Manila we're all broke, nationality problems for Ana and a fourteen year old annulment issue (missing papers which we only just got replacements for) blocking us being together, one kid British citizen already (now with British passport) the other born just before the law changed in 2006.

For lots of reasons not least financial we need to be in one country not two and only two months ago it was worse as we were living in three countries as Ana was in Korea.


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Lost my business and my home this year, I am one of the lucky ones I have a good well paying job (Software Architect) but lots of other problems still on the horizon, too many to go over again.

Short synopsis is two kids and partner in Manila we're all broke, nationality problems for Ana and a fourteen year old annulment issue (missing papers which we only just got replacements for) blocking us being together, one kid British citizen already (now with British passport) the other born just before the law changed in 2006.

For lots of reasons not least financial we need to be in one country not two and only two months ago it was worse as we were living in three countries as Ana was in Korea.


Jim

Man that's really rough, will things be ok?

I wish i could muster something better right now, but it's 4:35am and I've had a few too many beer na beer!

Things will be OK, right?

g'nite mate.

talk tomorrow alright, i'll add you man.

[JimOttley]

Read my signature Jim,its the truth mate,when your up you never think its going to end,unfortunately sometimes it does,with a bump :icon_lol:But if you have had it once you can always get it again:xxgrinning--00xx3:

The "me too" was also applying to the "easy-peasy to please" bit as well as the hard times :)

I'm just trying to get my head down and invent a few useful saleable things again :)


Jim

[JimOttley]

Man that's really rough, will things be ok?

I wish i could muster something better right now, but it's 4:35am and I've had a few too many beer na beer!

Things will be OK, right?

g'nite mate.

talk tomorrow alright, i'll add you man.

Take care Jim, good night to you too :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Don't worry we have been through a lot for the last 5 years and although we are arguing all the time and both in a lot of pain just now I think we will manage to stick together through it all, we love our kids and we love each other, just have to work at it, not easy though.

Jim

[Sophie]

What i love about the UK??
- My husband :):D
- NHS
- The weather - no typhoons and no discomfort of heat and humidity :xxgrinning--00xx3:
- Great landscapes :xxgrinning--00xx3:
- Fish and Chips :Rasp::D

[Tawi2]

Man that's really rough, will things be ok?

I wish i could muster something better right now, but it's 4:35am and I've had a few too many beer na beer!

Things will be OK, right?

g'nite mate.

talk tomorrow alright, i'll add you man.
Get your trainers on,take a run along Rizal Blvd,beautiful place to be as the suns rising :)

[Tawi2]

If you hate the UK so much then why do you live here, I lived in Manila for 5 years, and it is a polluted , hole in the ground. No matter what you read, the UK is one of the best countries in the world to live in..... and thats why we have so many immigrants trying to get in..... We always talk our selves down,, I would suggest you go and live in Manila for 4 years , and see what a really bad country is

Got to agree with you mike,theres a reason Sangatte and "The Jungle" existed,theres a lot to be said for these shores,I never put it down,visit africa and parts of asia,when they hear your from the UK they all say they would love to come,a lot of people dont realise how good they have it here,as you said its a great country to live in,we have many pluses to counteract the minus :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Northerner]

;dWhat I love... :)

1. The NHS
2. Civil Liberties
3. Multiculturalism...

What I hate.... Bah, would take too long to type :D

[JimOttley]

Got to agree with you mike,theres a reason Sangatte and "The Jungle" existed,theres a lot to be said for these shores,I never put it down,visit africa and parts of asia,when they hear your from the UK they all say they would love to come,a lot of people dont realise how good they have it here,as you said its a great country to live in,we have many pluses to counteract the minus :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Yep we don't realise how lucky we are, damn sight harder life elsewhere in a lot of ways.

For James I just remembered the thing I love most about Britain -

"Our eccentrics"

Britain is full of them (I am quite probably one) and while many are extreme they are a fundamental part of Britishness. :D

Jim

[triple5]

The British sense of humour is something I always miss when I'm away from the UK for a long period. Nobody cracks a joke like us, that's something to be proud of :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[somebody]

Yep we don't realise how lucky we are, damn sight harder life elsewhere in a lot of ways.

For James I just remembered the thing I love most about Britain -

"Our eccentrics"

Britain is full of them (I am quite probably one) and while many are extreme they are a fundamental part of Britishness. :D

Jim

I think thats why care in the community apart from the really unstable is hardly noticed in the UK most of us are a bit wibble:Rasp::Cuckoo:

[JimOttley]

I think thats why care in the community apart from the really unstable is hardly noticed in the UK most of us are a bit wibble:Rasp::Cuckoo:

:iagree: :Britain: :irish: :Kilt: :18:

Fiercely proud of our own insanity :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Jim

[GaryFifer]

Can I add. Love them!
And I have to say proud of our comedy in our country. There is so much to choose from.

Yes, and the difference between the upper class and the lower class! Nothing. It just okay for them to do mad stuff. But if a working class boy says I want to be a tobogganist, they get told to shut it,clipped round the ear and told to get a real job
Billy Connolly Tobogganist part 1 (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video60.htm)
Billy Connolly Tobagganist Part 2 (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video61.htm)

And I would add

Arbroath Smokies I just love those!

[GaryFifer]

I thought this website was very useful study of laughter of Britishness

http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/

[JimOttley]

Can I add. Love them!
And I have to say proud of our comedy in our country. There is so much to choose from.

Yes, and the difference between the upper class and the lower class! Nothing. It just okay for them to do mad stuff. But if a working class boy says I want to be a tobogganist, they get told to shut it,clipped round the ear and told to get a real job
Billy Connolly Tobogganist part 1 (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video60.htm)
Billy Connolly Tobagganist Part 2 (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video61.htm)

And I would add

Arbroath Smokies I just love those!

"Suburban V-neck Pullover Volvo crowd that spoil it all" :icon_lol: the rest of us are nuts, rich or poor :icon_lol:

I love Connolly, he gave me some serious dirty looks back in 1984 in the Silver Thread Hotel in Paisley at the 20th anniversary of the Paisley folk club as I was right into photography back then and he had a little bit of a problem with photographers :D (I was up at the front of the stage right under his nose :D))


Jim

[GaryFifer]

Aye, I don't come to your work and take photos of you ya p**k. Probably what he'd say

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;182540]I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


Hello James Hubbard! I don't exactly know your background and why said what you said ... I went through, read almost if not all your comments here and I couldn't help not to say ... "

1) Temperate Climate -
Doesn't it mean not subject to prolonged extremes of hot or cold weather?

2. World Class Education. Oxbridge. Compare a graduate from cambridge to a graduate from university of the philippines and you will see the educational disparity -

There is no comparison. These are the link you can look up. History will tell you. It is self explanatory. It is like comparing grandfather to a great great grandson. This is not an excuse but you might consider that - our medium of instruction is mostly in English whereas, yours is in the language you're born to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge#Foundation_of_the_colleges

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Philippines[/COLOR][/COLOR]


3/4) Differences - We all live and differ in culture and traditions, music, beliefs, moral values, principles and I can go on. I think that ther eis good/bad everywhere. I've not been robbed at home, I was here!

WHO IS NOT PROUD OF ORIGIN. If I am a Chinese, I am proud being Chinese. If I am German, I am proud being German, if I am Filipino, I am proud being Filipino ...

[GaryFifer]

We need a new national anthem. Its crap. daa daa daaaa daaa daaaa daa daaa blah blah blah. With a mighty rush rebellious Scots to Crush
Billy on the anthem (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video67.htm)

[JimOttley]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;182540]I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


Hello James Hubbard! I don't exactly know your background and why said what you said ... I went through, read almost if not all your comments here and I couldn't help not to say ... "

1) Temperate Climate -
Doesn't it mean not subject to prolonged extremes of hot or cold weather?

2. World Class Education. Oxbridge. Compare a graduate from cambridge to a graduate from university of the philippines and you will see the educational disparity -

There is no comparison. These are the link you can look up. History will tell you. It is self explanatory. It is like comparing grandfather to a great great grandson. This is not an excuse but you might consider that - our medium of instruction is mostly in English whereas, yours is in the language you're born to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge#Foundation_of_the_colleges

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Philippines[/COLOR][/COLOR]


3/4) Differences - We all live and differ in culture and traditions, music, beliefs, moral values, principles and I can go on. I think that ther eis good/bad everywhere. I've not been robbed at home, I was here!

WHO IS NOT PROUD OF ORIGIN. If I am a Chinese, I am proud being Chinese. If I am German, I am proud being German, if I am Filipino, I am proud being Filipino ...

Bless, he's been up late had too many beers and he is terribly homesick and looking forward to coming home to the UK in a couple of weeks, he is young and exuberant and he got a bit off topic earlier :D

From all his other posts he is just trying to tell it as he see's it, he's not always right, I bet you he is homesick for the Philippines two weeks after he gets back to the UK :D


Jim

[JimOttley]

Aye, I don't come to your work and take photos of you ya p**k. Probably what he'd say

:icon_lol: indeed :D

I wish I had those shots in digital format, I'll need to dig them out and get them copied :)

Jim

[JimOttley]

We need a new national anthem. Its crap. daa daa daaaa daaa daaaa daa daaa blah blah blah. With a mighty rush rebellious Scots to Crush
Billy on the anthem (http://www.happinessandlaughter.com/video67.htm)


Just watched that :D I remember that one well :icon_lol:

There was a tiny one second clip of Clive James in the audience, he was also a brilliant satirist and critic, I still enjoy him sometimes on the radio these days (not that I am a decrepit old foggy :D)


Jim

[GaryFifer]

Just watched that :D I remember that one well :icon_lol:

There was a tiny one second clip of Clive James in the audience, he was also a brilliant satirist and critic, I still enjoy him sometimes on the radio these days (not that I am a decrepit old foggy :D)


Jim

Question Time, is another institution I enjoy watching that :)Was. Ya Clive James, not to be confused with Anderson who is an idiot.

James is still kicking around as I write this:xxgrinning--00xx3: Broadcaster and poet he was quoted as, last time I saw him was on Question Time.

Like I arrived from Mars haha. Love that quote. Gordon last chance. George Galloway is on the panel. He is always a plonker

BBC Iplayer QUestion Time Norwich (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lt0j3/Question_Time_23_07_2009/)

[James Hubbard]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;182540]I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


Hello James Hubbard! I don't exactly know your background and why said what you said ... I went through, read almost if not all your comments here and I couldn't help not to say ... "

1) Temperate Climate -
Doesn't it mean not subject to prolonged extremes of hot or cold weather?

2. World Class Education. Oxbridge. Compare a graduate from cambridge to a graduate from university of the philippines and you will see the educational disparity -

There is no comparison. These are the link you can look up. History will tell you. It is self explanatory. It is like comparing grandfather to a great great grandson. This is not an excuse but you might consider that - our medium of instruction is mostly in English whereas, yours is in the language you're born to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge#Foundation_of_the_colleges

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Philippines[/COLOR][/COLOR]


3/4) Differences - We all live and differ in culture and traditions, music, beliefs, moral values, principles and I can go on. I think that ther eis good/bad everywhere. I've not been robbed at home, I was here!

WHO IS NOT PROUD OF ORIGIN. If I am a Chinese, I am proud being Chinese. If I am German, I am proud being German, if I am Filipino, I am proud being Filipino ...

Bless,

1) Yes, temperate climate does mean no extremes in weather. And happily so, having lived here through 3 typhoons and another one coming, give me bland (beautiful) british "fine rain that soaks you through" anyday!

2) Am I not allowed to be proud of the "world class education" we have in the UK? The country is a veritable mecca for the best and brightest students from all over the world!! I'll never stop being proud of it!

3) Differences. Yes, the distinction is, in the UK, we celebrate our differences, and look at them as beautiful things, we are not culturally homogeneous, but rather, we are a multi-cultural melting pot. Whereas in other places (including where I currently live) the place only has ONE kind of person. Anyone else who has different colour of skin or a different accent is looked upon with suspicion and a little bit of ridicule.

In the UK, cultural differences are things to be proud of- making the country a much richer experience, whereas, other countries, if you're different, you're ridiculed and made to feel embarrassed.

4) Bless said : Who is Not Proud Of Origin : I guess there are many, nevertheless, the point of this thread is to celebrate why we are proud to be british, or what we love about Britain.

--As the author of a book on passing the life in the UK exam, I would assume that you rather enjoy it in my country :) You're welcome. Let us know why you love our country, our united kingdom :)

[pennybarry]

1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .
:)

Will never like the climate here:D
Too hard to finish one course:omg: Struggling with my ECDL.:bigcry: Teachers speaks so fast.:doh
Elderlies are very polite:xxgrinning--00xx3:

But I love the countryside!:omg::cwm38::)

[vbkelly]

i love uk very much but PI is undescribable place to me specially in my place GOD'S PARADISE. hehe supak mo?

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=bless.books;182828]

Bless, he's been up late had too many beers and he is terribly homesick and looking forward to coming home to the UK in a couple of weeks, he is young and exuberant and he got a bit off topic earlier :D

From all his other posts he is just trying to tell it as he see's it, he's not always right, I bet you he is homesick for the Philippines two weeks after he gets back to the UK :D


Jim

Hello JimOttley!
Thank you for your comment ... I wish there will be more of you who can look more than see, who can listen more than hear ...

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=bless.books;182828]

James,
1) Yes, temperate climate does mean no extremes in weather. And happily so, having lived here through 3 typhoons and another one coming, give me bland (beautiful) british "fine rain that soaks you through" anyday!

Don't you think, you should have prepared yourself first by researching. What's it like in a tropical country. It is not ones fault having a typhoon is it?

2) Am I not allowed to be proud of the "world class education" we have in the UK? The country is a veritable mecca for the best and brightest students from all over the world!! I'll never stop being proud of it!

I am not contesting that. You can be proud of all you can think of and you have all the right. You made a comparison of the two universties. I only made a comment.

3) Differences. Yes, the distinction is, in the UK, we celebrate our differences, and look at them as beautiful things, we are not culturally homogeneous, but rather, we are a multi-cultural melting pot. Whereas in other places (including where I currently live) the place only has ONE kind of person. Anyone else who has different colour of skin or a different accent is looked upon with suspicion and a little bit of ridicule.In the UK, cultural differences are things to be proud of-making the country a much richer experience, whereas, other countries, if you're different, you're ridiculed and made to feel embarrassed.


Again, hear yourself. Don't generalise. Do you really celebrate it? If you experience what you experience, fine. We also have experiences here, I mean all who is not from UK, there is no need to mention it in great detail.


4) Bless said : Who is Not Proud Of Origin : I guess there are many, nevertheless, the point of this thread is to celebrate why we are proud to be british, or what we love about Britain.

James, yes, that is what this thread is all about. PROUD TO BE BRITISH IF YOU MUST. The thing is you were off topic on so many points. Which means limit it BRITAIN, AND JUST BRITAIN TO ALONE. Now, if you would like to say something about PINAS and HOW DIFFERENT FROM UK, then start another thread, or might as well not, bec you are comparing apple to orange.


--As the author of a book on passing the life in the UK exam, I would assume that you rather enjoy it in my country :) You're welcome. Let us know why you love our country, our united kingdom :)


First, I had the book bec I made use of my time and this is my contribution to the UK/Filipino Community. There is a degree that I enjoy being here but then again, I also enjoyed being/living in other countries as well. The word is - embrace and experience!

[James Hubbard]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;182860]


First, I had the book bec I made use of my time and this is my contribution to the UK/Filipino Community. There is a degree that I enjoy being here but then again, I also enjoyed being/living in other countries as well. The word is - embrace and experience!



Ok book ... here's the final post from me in this little debate you have started:

1) Weather. You come off as a bit rude, "shouldn't you have prepared yourself, yak yak yak". OK Logic 101. Where did I blame you on the typhoons here? Also, without the aid of a crystal ball, I can't determine what the weather will be here. What's to say I didn't educate myself on the weather here and still came here anyway?

BlessBooks, I am talking about (how many times have I said this) WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT LIVING IN THE UK! I LIKE THE WEATHER! KNOCK KNOCK! If I wanted to take the same tone as you, I'd say: Don't you think you should read the first post in a thread before you get all righteous!


2) Glad you're not contesting this one. Finally getting somewhere! :)

3) Yes there is need to mention it in great detail. When's the last time you heard a brit telling anyone how proud they are of their country? I'm pretty sure this is the only thread I've seen in any forum of this kind. Yet, every day I am being hit with pinoy pride and pilipinas kong mahal. If you don't like a topic that says "Proud to be British" then don't read it, and heck, don't post! It makes sense. Hit the back button in your browser :)

4) Deary me Bless, we gotta clear things up a bit here. I live in Philippines. I am British. This is the FILIPINO UK forum. I am comparing what I like in UK with the other thing I know which is the Philippines. It makes sense, since that's kinda the topic of the forum we're on! Again, if you didn't like what I had said why not just use the back button in your browser like I shall any time I see you reply to one of my posts?

As for the book and loving the UK, if you don't love it, why not leave it? You could sell your book online from the Philippines :):doh

Anyway,

I'm not gonna respond to you any more, I'll let you have the last word in this tussle. I have said my piece.

This is all,

[jimeve]

what I like about Britain.

NHS.
Football.

what I hate about Britain,so many things.

[joebloggs]

my misses likes the weather here to :D

nhs because they employ her :icon_lol:

british tv (comedy shows like 9 out of 10 cats, top gear, x factor, dancing on ice, strictly come dancing ...)

[James Hubbard]

my misses likes the weather here to :D

nhs because they employ her :icon_lol:

british tv (comedy shows like 9 out of 10 cats, top gear, x factor, dancing on ice, strictly come dancing ...)

We have awesome comedy, that's true :D Do you watch the "dave" channel Joe?

[Tish]

my misses likes the weather here to :D

nhs because they employ her :icon_lol:

british tv (comedy shows like 9 out of 10 cats, top gear, x factor, dancing on ice, strictly come dancing ...)

Likewise Joe :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Plus I love watching my family, one foot in the grave, mrs bucket :icon_lol:, shameless, most of night time soaps and many many more :doh

Tish

[joebloggs]

We have awesome comedy, that's true :D Do you watch the "dave" channel Joe?

:NoNo: misses is watching tv until she goes to bed at midnight :doh ( i think she turns into a pumpkin then:rolleyes: or a witch :D) only thing on tv that late at night is babestation 1,2 & 3 :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Tish]

We have awesome comedy, that's true :D Do you watch the "dave" channel Joe?

Our Jack likes watching Dave :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

[somebody]

Our Jack likes watching Dave :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Tish

I hope it doesn't like watching Dave in the shower:omg:













I mean water and Electricty never mix well :Rasp:

[kentish]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?



Here in the UK i love the most;

1. Benefits,hehehe the lesser you earn,the more you get benefits though I haven't claimed a penny.

2. The free NHS.

[somebody]

See a lot for the NHS but i would say the emgency services including the NHS.

See two accidents this week on the way to and from work and both times I was so glad we have Ambulances, paramedics with hugely advanced equipment and highly skilled, the police and the fire service. All donng there bit to ensure the safety of those passing by, care for the injured and ensure the rest of the public are not hindered. Also the helicopter ambulances the huge hospitals with 24 7 a and e rooms.

We have mountain and sea rescue, volunteer organsations like the St johns ambulance at sporting events and the RNIL.

Basically the huge infrastructure we all moan about when its not perfect as often it works so well however many funding problems and mismanagment issues etc.

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;182942][QUOTE=bless.books;182926]



Ok book ... here's the final post from me in this little debate you have started:

1) Weather. You come off as a bit rude, "shouldn't you have prepared yourself, yak yak yak". OK Logic 101. Where did I blame you on the typhoons here? Also, without the aid of a crystal ball, I can't determine what the weather will be here. What's to say I didn't educate myself on the weather here and still came here anyway

James, I don't think that is being rude. That is your perception. I am only pointing out, that if you read about our weather/climate conditions then you would know what to expect. What is wrong suggesting? Reading a bit about the country would help don't you think? So you wouldn't caught out moaning/complaining! Hear your tone.


BlessBooks, I am talking about (how many times have I said this) WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT LIVING IN THE UK! I LIKE THE WEATHER! KNOCK KNOCK! If I wanted to take the same tone as you, I'd say: Don't you think you should read the first post in a thread before you get all righteous!

Yes, James, I read your comments, if not all, almost all. And it is you who has to go through it again ... you've forgotten you've made comments - not about your loving/living in the UK. Please do not just see but look/Please do not just hear but listen to your tone. You started a thread, and everyone is welcome to say anything. Good or bad, acceptable or not and am talking about two parties here. If one says something, you can expect one to say something as well, whether that one likes it or not.


2) Glad you're not contesting this one. Finally getting somewhere! :)


3) Yes there is need to mention it in great detail. When's the last time you heard a brit telling anyone how proud they are of their country? I'm pretty sure this is the only thread I've seen in any forum of this kind. Yet, every day I am being hit with pinoy pride and pilipinas kong mahal. If you don't like a topic that says "Proud to be British" then don't read it, and heck, don't post! It makes sense. Hit the back button in your browser :)


This is where the rudeness bit you are talking about. Manners please! Who is rude now? Forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas.
I said, there is no need to mention in great detail the bad experiences (of people I met here including me) bec I am here in the UK and it would not help moaning and complaing, I'd rather embrace and experience and accept it. Yes, again the topic is PROUD TO BE BRITISH. It got me interested in the topic hoping to learn something from it. I wanted to know/learn what BRITISH PEOPLE SAY ABOUT THEIR COUNTRY AND WHAT THEY ARE PROUD ABOUT. How come then, that you awere talking about something else and makking comparison. Okay, you love/like the weather, then explain why? Your world class education, then explain it. It is very elementary.


4) Deary me Bless, we gotta clear things up a bit here. I live in Philippines. I am British. This is the FILIPINO UK forum. I am comparing what I like in UK with the other thing I know which is the Philippines. It makes sense, since that's kinda the topic of the forum we're on! Again, if you didn't like what I had said why not just use the back button in your browser like I shall any time I see you reply to one of my posts?

Deary James, that is exactly what I am saying. Don't you get it? You can say what you like and stick to that. I mean, you have to be precise what you are talking about. TITLE IS PROUD TO BE BRTISH, say the things you are proud about being British isn't? Then Why are comparing two opposite poles. You should have a different topic.
Have the title, then messages follows. DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE TOPIC. If you are to compare UK from PHILIPPINES, then have another title. It is not about me liking the topic or not, it is about contents of the topic.


As for the book and loving the UK, if you don't love it, why not leave it? You could sell your book online from the Philippines :):doh


Talking about world-class education? Where are you educated? What about world-class manners? You are being too personal now. I am not going to bite that.
LIVE AND LET LIVE. It is sad that just one thread could display your character.

[bornatbirth]

criticize a filipina and see where it gets you? :D

you do all realize,that you cant make comments about the philipines :Erm:

what do i like about the uk?

1.my wife

2.football

3.freedom of speech

4.bangers and mash with onion gravy

5.free condoms :icon_lol:

[Tawi2]

Freedom of speech?I just watched a group of islamic extremists on TV shouting "Down with freedom of speech" because of Geert Wilders visit :icon_lol:Oh yeah,one of them was also holding a placard for "Sharia law for Holland" :icon_lol:The Uk is a cool place,nowt fundementally wrong with it,hundreds of thousands of economic asylum seekers cant all be wrong :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

criticize a filipina and see where it gets you? :D

you do all realize,that you cant make comments about the philipines :Erm:





Ya, it reminds me of the Baldwin debacle . . . Philippines has freedom of speech in their constitution. An american who also values constitutional freedom of speech makes a silly joke about filipinas, then they decide to ban him from the country!

:xxgrinning--00xx3::doh

Say what you want as long as you never ever say anything bad about the Philippines.

Another thing I love about the UK is that we are allowed to voice our thoughts and opinions, our thoughts and complaints. If we feel government is corrupt, eg. the expenses fiasco - we complain about it and it gets put on TV and frontpage news!

Another thing I love about the UK is freedom of information act. If you want to see how much money Gerry Adams, or Boris Johnston or any other politician claims, then you can access that easily as a member of the public. This is compared to countries who don't have this openness and transparency where they know their politicians are stinking rich, they don't know just how much! :yikes::yikes:

Anyway, that's just a small contribution from me! :)


Before I go, i'd like to mention something else. A while ago a friend of mine wrote 2 articles on the internet for a magazine. One was "why I love the Philippines" and the other was something like "what's wrong with the Philippines" . . . well, the guy got harrassed and abused in the comments section because he was a hater of the Philippines yadda yadda yadda. No-one would be balanced and match the "good" article against the "bad article". Some peopel want to be victimised.

Anyhow.

Over and out for now, lets return this to a positive tone and not a slagging match .... it wasn't the intention.

[somebody]

Ya, it reminds me of the Baldwin debacle . . . Philippines has freedom of speech in their constitution. An american who also values constitutional freedom of speech makes a silly joke about filipinas, then they decide to ban him from the country!

:xxgrinning--00xx3::doh

Say what you want as long as you never ever say anything bad about the Philippines.

Another thing I love about the UK is that we are allowed to voice our thoughts and opinions, our thoughts and complaints. If we feel government is corrupt, eg. the expenses fiasco - we complain about it and it gets put on TV and frontpage news!

Another thing I love about the UK is freedom of information act. If you want to see how much money Gerry Adams, or Boris Johnston or any other politician claims, then you can access that easily as a member of the public. This is compared to countries who don't have this openness and transparency where they know their politicians are stinking rich, they don't know just how much! :yikes::yikes:

Anyway, that's just a small contribution from me! :)


Before I go, i'd like to mention something else. A while ago a friend of mine wrote 2 articles on the internet for a magazine. One was "why I love the Philippines" and the other was something like "what's wrong with the Philippines" . . . well, the guy got harrassed and abused in the comments section because he was a hater of the Philippines yadda yadda yadda. No-one would be balanced and match the "good" article against the "bad article". Some peopel want to be victimised.

Anyhow.

Over and out for now, lets return this to a positive tone and not a slagging match .... it wasn't the intention.


Good point, I noticed the Wife could not take on board constructive criticism easily and nor could her friends yet could be very frank on most things:Erm:

Im sure plenty of Phills can but it does seem that many dont like it which is understandable I guess to a degree.

Heres an example for your Book, Bless Books, the Wife found it hard at work when even though she worked hard fellow co workers or managers would be critical about her work. We worked together on it as a couple and broke down the comments and apart from a few stupid ones many were "gifts" free constructive advice:xxgrinning--00xx3:

She took it on board flourished in her jobs and now its like water of a ducks back. Just recently was telling me, she was mentoring a far older then her pinay who she works with on what a supervisor was trying to do:xxgrinning--00xx3:

In the past and even today people are highly critical of the UK how do you think the NHS happened?

[James Hubbard]

Good point, I noticed the Wife could not take on board constructive criticism easily and nor could her friends yet could be very frank on most things:Erm:


True, I like to think of communication here like a cream bun. :doh

Whereas, typical workin-class British communcation is like a double bladed dagger! :yikes:

I'm sure it takes a bit of time for a Filipino to get used to the lack of Sir, Madam, Ate, Kuya, Auntie/Uncle - ing that goes on in the philippines when they come to the UK :D

We're not as nice, but we get things done.

Things in the Philippines are done at a snail's pace! eeks!

:bigcry:

[somebody]

Why im proud to be British sometimes you need to moan and even Twittter was involved which will please Rob and Mr admin po Boss lord of all the sheep around him.

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=19612

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=bless.books;182926]
Ok book ... here's the final post from me in this little debate you have started:

Let us make it all clear. I did not start any debate. I only commented back on your comments.

Don't you think you should read the first post in a thread before you get all righteous!

A forum starts at the first post and doesn't end there. But isn't is a rule to stick to it? All righteous?


As for the book and loving the UK, if you don't love it, why not leave it? You could sell your book online from the Philippines :):doh Anyway, I'm not gonna respond to you any more, I'll let you have the last word in this tussle. I have said my piece. This is all,


And as for the book, THE LIFE IN THE UK TEST MADE EASY -it is for those taking the LIFE IN THE UK TEST and I am glad you noticed it. It is not about makking money. If there is at least one from here who will be interested, that will make me grateful.

As an author, I have the obligation to submit copies to the following British Libraries:

LEGAL DEPOSIT OFFICE
The British Library
The Bodleian Library, Oxford
The National Library of Wales
The University Library, Cambridge
The Library of Trinity College, Dublin

Which means this little contribution of mine will be part of the British Heritage. I will be long gone 6 feet under the ground, but my book is still around. What about you? Okay, you are proud to be British ... are the British people be proud of you?

[James Hubbard]

Haha

O my gosh, there are those who like nick griffin, who would do anything to promote that they're selling at any point in time :D well done to the unnamed :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[walesrob]

Guys and gals, can we all calm down a bit and stick to the thread about why we are proud to be British.

Bless Books, please refrain from continually pushing your book, advertising is not free on this forum (unless agreed with Keith otherwise). I have heard some complaints from members, so if I hear any more, action will be taken. Thank you in advance for your understanding. :)

[James Hubbard]

Guys and gals, can we all calm down a bit and stick the thread about we are proud to be British.

Bless Books, please refrain from continually pushing your book, advertising is not free on this forum (unless agreed with Keith otherwise). I have heard some complaints from members, so if I hear any more, action will be taken. Thank you in advance for your understanding. :)

so then, to continue the thread:

I am proud of being British because:

-- We can agree that every body is worthy of voicing their opinions even if they are worthy of being laughed out! E.g. most people will never vote BNP, because they are an alternative. Now, OK, I will never vote for them, but thank the Lord they are there :D

[bless.books]

Good point, I noticed the Wife could not take on board constructive criticism easily and nor could her friends yet could be very frank on most things:Erm:Im sure plenty of Phills can but it does seem that many dont like it which is understandable I guess to a degree.



Hello somebody! If you will allow me, I just would like to make a comment here. Wife whatever nationality is a wife and will not always take criticism lightly. And so with husbands. Given -two people of different backgrounds, living under one roof, what do you expect? Of course, an argument! And to say they both come from different culture, that is a riot?! Don't you think?


Heres an example for your Book, Bless Books, the Wife found it hard at work when even though she worked hard fellow co workers or managers would be critical about her work. We worked together on it as a couple and broke down the comments and apart from a few stupid ones many were "gifts" free constructive advice:xxgrinning--00xx3: She took it on board flourished in her jobs and now its like water of a ducks back. Just recently was telling me, she was mentoring a far older then her pinay who she works with on what a supervisor was trying to do:xxgrinning--00xx3: In the past and even today people are highly critical of the UK how do you think the NHS happened?

About wife, I am glad that was sorted out.

[James Hubbard]

and just one thing, if I wanted to release a book, and of course I do, someday, (under a pseudonom of course - i shall), although the one under whom the above "author" has published his/her books is a self-publisher, so I could easily :xxgrinning--00xx3: .. . . Make History lol by doing so :)

so, on with the conversation

for those of you who LIKE or LOVE britain, What do you LIKE or LOVE about it (if you can't find anything, then maybe answer a different thread, thx)

[bless.books]

Guys and gals, can we all calm down a bit and stick to the thread about why we are proud to be British.

Bless Books, please refrain from continually pushing your book, advertising is not free on this forum (unless agreed with Keith otherwise). I have heard some complaints from members, so if I hear any more, action will be taken. Thank you in advance for your understanding. :)

Hello walesrob! Who is not calm here? If I went beyond your rules/conditions then let someone get my attention. And tell me straight give me a message. Since I became a member, I try to read your conditions, even asked win2win. It was only yesterday I got a reply back from him. I've posted a thread with regards to it, and I get nothing back. So, please do not be bias. I am not pushing my book. I was only replying to the comments made about my book. You can read about the bit of insult of my book.

[bless.books]

and just one thing, if I wanted to release a book, and of course I do, someday, (under a pseudonom of course - i shall), although the one under whom the above "author" has published his/her books is a self-publisher, so I could easily :xxgrinning--00xx3: .. . . Make History lol by doing so :)

so, on with the conversation

for those of you who LIKE or LOVE britain, What do you LIKE or LOVE about it (if you can't find anything, then maybe answer a different thread, thx)

Pseudonym (that is the right spelling)

[walesrob]

Hello walesrob! Who is not calm here? If I went beyond your rules/conditions then let someone get my attention. And tell me straight give me a message. Since I became a member, I try to read your conditions, even asked win2win. It was only yesterday I got a reply back from him. I've posted a thread with regards to it, and I get nothing back. So, please do not be bias. I am not pushing my book. I was only replying to the comments made about my book. You can read about the bit of insult of my book.

So what part of Keith's reply "You are not allowed to post any links until you build up trust." did you not understand? Why did you find it necessary to question his reply by starting a new thread, and why did you find it surprising no-one replied?

I can tolerate the link for the book in your signature, but to repeat the title of the book in your post implies free advertising, you could have said "My Book".

As I said before I have had complaints about you always pushing your book, and I will start editing your posts if you continue to do so. Your choice. :)

[James Hubbard]

Pseudonym (that is the right spelling)

thanks for that.

OK, now

a) Are you proud of living in UK - if no, then press back because it invalidates any purchase of your book

b) If you are proud you must write an essay on the fallacy of correcting the spelling of an English word to an English Native, in great detail.

Moderators, Admin Bless Books is a trouble maker.

Please.:ARsurrender::ARsurrender::ARsurrender:

[walesrob]

Moderators, Admin Bless Books is a trouble maker.



:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

you are the moderator. You are an authority. I will suspend further judgement, because the "author" in question no longer deserves the dignity implied in a reply from me.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[somebody]

About wife, I am glad that was sorted out.

Hello somebody! If you will allow me, I just would like to make a comment here. Wife whatever nationality is a wife and will not always take criticism lightly. And so with husbands. Given -two people of different backgrounds, living under one roof, what do you expect? Of course, an argument! And to say they both come from different culture, that is a riot?! Don't you think?

Why should there be aruguments because there are people from two cultures:Erm: I dont think we have ever had a riot:D

Im not talking about us as a couple in the previous post.

I have noticed it seems many filipinos at all levels I have come across dont seem to take constructive criticism in their stride like Brits do in general although of course always plenty of brits and phill the other way round. More importanly they dont seem to notice people are saying it to try and help often.
I had my Wife in tears thinking her manager was bullying her when really she was trying to get her to be even better than she was already. Many of her Phill mates in the UK could not see it either.

The reason I mention it is the reason why many Brits are crictal of things which happen in Phill is because that is how change for the good occured in the UK by people not agreeing with the status quo and speaking out.

It deeply upsets us so many phills just shrug and dont think they can changes things.

The fact that people do feel they can change things by speaking out in the UK is a reason to be proud of being British.

Lets hope one day the same can be said in Phill:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[James Hubbard]

The fact that people do feel they can change things by speaking out in the UK is a reason to be proud of being British.

Lets hope one day the same can be said in Phill:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Amen Brother! :D

[somebody]

Amen Brother! :D

My Longlost Brummie Brother:omg:

[James Hubbard]

Pseudonym (that is the right spelling)

I will not say much other than, ....

the person who purports to sell a book about passing the Life in the UK exam (please bear that in mind all of you who plan to sit this exam soon) will correct the spelling of a native.

Now, I ask you brits, how many of you enjoy being told that you spelt a word wrong (albeit in your haste) . . .

Is this the kind of person you want to take tips from on "Life in the UK"?

I mean ... a bit of real life, if you were in cardiff, leeds, leicester, birmingham, wherever, would you appreciate some pedant on your shoulder correcting your petty mistakes?

I mean, come on now, you all understand what I'm saying, even if I make a few mistakes along the line!

The difference is : remember this ...

I am happy! ,Life is good for me! I am not trying to sell a book, if I was, I would be really kind, coz, let's face it, who'd like to be the student of an author who was an :censored::butthead:?


Look, I got nothing to sell you, I got no vested interest, my pedantic detractor however? . . . .

troublemaker.

It's hard here.

[bless.books]

So what part of Keith's reply "You are not allowed to post any links until you build up trust." did you not understand? Why did you find it necessary to question his reply by starting a new thread, and why did you find it surprising no-one replied?

I can tolerate the link for the book in your signature, but to repeat the title of the book in your post implies free advertising, you could have said "My Book".

As I said before I have had complaints about you always pushing your book, and I will start editing your posts if you continue to do so. Your choice. :)

Hello walesrob! I do understand the whole sentence. The thing is, the answer came after the posting was done. After reading his reply which is only yesterday, I didn't make any thread as far as I am aware of. If those phrases were, then my apologies. How do I know. I don't pretend to know all. With you walesrob, I am at your mercy and anyone here is at the admins mercy as well. You can do anything here and I will put my hands up. And I am sorry about it. But you know, you should know how to balance things out. Okay, I made mistakes on my thread ... why only now it came to my attention.

Besides, there are two sides of the whole story.

[Tawi2]

Speak out in Pinas theres all likelihood your going to disappear,a journalist friend told me there are stories the wise just dont pursue :icon_lol:

[somebody]

Speak out in Pinas theres all likelihood your going to disappear,a journalist friend told me there are stories the wise just dont pursue :icon_lol:

True seen programes on that which most of the Fillipinas on here, plus My Wife and her pinay friends here moaned about:D

No wonder all the poltical disscussion programes in phill tend to be in English probably more alien non voters like me watching than locals:D

I doubt a show like question time would create the same amount of fuss in many countries. Where people who detest the BNP, debate to give them the right to speak or not depending on what they think.

[bless.books]

I will not say much other than, ....
the person who purports to sell a book about passing the Life in the UK exam (please bear that in mind all of you who plan to sit this exam soon) will correct the spelling of a native. Now, I ask you brits, how many of you enjoy being told that you spelt a word wrong (albeit in your haste) . . .

Is this the kind of person you want to take tips from on "Life in the UK"?
I mean ... a bit of real life, if you were in cardiff, leeds, leicester, birmingham, wherever, would you appreciate some pedant on your shoulder correcting your petty mistakes? I mean, come on now, you all understand what I'm saying, even if I make a few mistakes along the line! The difference is : remember this ... I am happy! ,Life is good for me! I am not trying to sell a book, if I was, I would be really kind, coz, let's face it, who'd like to be the student of an author who was an :censored::butthead:?
Look, I got nothing to sell you, I got no vested interest, my pedantic detractor however? . . . . troublemaker. It's hard here.

Hello James, I meant to reply to your previous post but then I changed my mind. So, when I noticed the wrong spelling, I thought I will just say that. It wasn't meant to insult. I make mistakes too and I wouldn't mind being corrected. Just linking it to the world-class education you're talking about.
I am learning everyday, and so should you and also learn how to take criticism.

[James Hubbard]

some people, who have a somewhat loose grasp on the English language would like to challenge a native. They would even propose to correct the spelling of a native English speaker . . . an excellent marketing plan I should say.

[James Hubbard]

Hello James, I meant to reply to your previous post but then I changed my mind. So, whe nI noticed the wrong spelling, I thought I will just say that. It wasn't meant to insult. I make mistakes too and I wouldn't mind being corrected. Just linking it to the world-class education you're talking about.
I am learning everyday, and so should you and also learn how to take criticism.

I am beginning to think of you as a troll.

You are something of a fool. I mentioned in one of my early posts that I was educated in a New University - nothing in the league of Oxbridge, therefore to draw that comparison, you'd need to find an Oxbridge educated member of the forum then call them out.

To call me out, is to call into the question - YOUR - credibility - not mine! :D

You feel like a troll who's just here to sell your book :cwm23:

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=somebody;183215]Hello somebody! If you will allow me, I just would like to make a comment here. Wife whatever nationality is a wife and will not always take criticism lightly. And so with husbands. Given -two people of different backgrounds, living under one roof, what do you expect? Of course, an argument! And to say they both come from different culture, that is a riot?! Don't you think?

Why should there be aruguments because there are people from two cultures:Erm: I dont think we have ever had a riot:D

Hello somebody! When I said that, I am teasing a bit of course ...

[bless.books]

I am beginning to think of you as a troll.
You are something of a fool. I mentioned in one of my early posts that I was educated in a New University - nothing in the league of Oxbridge, therefore to draw that comparison, you'd need to find an Oxbridge educated member of the forum then call them out. To call me out, is to call into the question - YOUR - credibility - not mine! :D You feel like a troll who's just here to sell your book :cwm23:


Troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online discussion forum with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

Who deviated from the topic. This is where you posted off topic and so this is where I will post mine. What do I love about UK, I will tell you, I love the people here in UK, the people who are not arrogant. The people who has manners. You said 'derogatory remarks' which obviously started it, and when you were criticized, you become personal.

[James Hubbard]

I wonder would the eminent author bless tell us something about his/her self ... because so far, we're left with the image of a bookselling, irritating-correcting the spelling of natives dweeb troll. Would you like to sell us on you bless? Let us know about the nice side of you because, I'd love to hear. :D

[James Hubbard]

[/COLOR]

I love the people here in UK, the people who are not arrogant. The people who has manners.

Finally, in her annoying orange colour, she mentioned the things she actually likes about the country she's sellling books to tell you how to become permanent residents of (and yes, i know the grammar's bad, but I am a citizen so bleeeehhhhh)


so we're not arrogant. We wouldn't hold a simple hasty typing mistake in spelling against people!

Maybe it should be included in the next revision of the book, just sayin!:Cuckoo::ARsurrender:

[James Hubbard]

The people who has manners. .

Just to give you some of your own meds


... "have manners"

get it right.

If you correct a brit's english, they'll not like you, and his wife will not buy your book just saying.

Is this the credibility you wanted???

[bornatbirth]

Guys and gals, can we all calm down a bit and stick to the thread about why we are proud to be British.


:D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

com'on lets have a big forum hug :cwm12:

[bornatbirth]

I love the people here in UK, the people who are not arrogant. The people who has manners.

have we met :Erm:

[James Hubbard]

have we met :Erm:

you 're the exception that proves the rule dude :xxgrinning--00xx3::yikes:

[bless.books]

some people, who have a somewhat loose grasp on the English language would like to challenge a native. They would even propose to correct the spelling of a native English speaker . . . an excellent marketing plan I should say.

It is not challenging a native speaker. We are no match at all. And that is what I pointing out to you from the very start. This is our second language and so we can be full of errors ... and we are trying. We can never be compared. UP cannot be compared to any of your colleges. And to put it, do not make derogatory remarks.

[James Hubbard]

It is not challenging a native speaker. We are no match at all. And that is what I pointing out to you from the very start. This is our second language and so we can be full of errors ... and we are trying. We can never be compared. UP cannot be compared to any of your colleges. And to put it, do not make derogatory remarks.

Good, so then, we shall not have any more problems where you decide you wish to correct my English? That would be wonderful. An apology would be even better, although, i shall not hold out for such.

As I see it, you are selling the book :NoNo: and you are seeking to make money off this. You lost your credibility a while ago.

I will accept an apology unreservedly . . . :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:


Don't think that because the British people are "not arrogant" that you can treat us in a derogatory and disparaging way . . . but just remember this . . . the more you antagonise anyone in here, the less credibility your book receives . . :Erm:

[bless.books]

Just to give you some of your own meds
... "have manners" get it right. If you correct a brit's english, they'll not like you, and his wife will not buy your book just saying.
Is this the credibility you wanted???

Well, thanks a lot for mentioning about it. I am not advertising, you are. I am not far off from the world-class education you started. It is not my crusade to be liked. I can be hated and I can be loved. The choice is theirs. What I go on about is the wrong perception and the derogatory remarks you've made about the Philippines. PROUD TO BE BRITISH as I say, should say about BRITISH. And not about loving/liking British and putting down Philippines at the same time. NO POINT OF COMPARISON.

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=James Hubbard;183285]Good, so then, we shall not have any more problems where you decide you wish to correct my English? That would be wonderful. An apology would be even better, although, i shall not hold out for such.

Why should I apologise to you. Search your heart and soul. You posted a thread and I commented. and that is where it started ...

[James Hubbard]

It is not my crusade to be liked. I can be hated and I can be loved. The choice is to them.

Always good for a book flogger :doh:Brick:

[somebody]

:D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

com'on lets have a big forum hug :cwm12:
What? After what you did to me last time:omg:

[triple5]

will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Make the most of your time with the missus coz I'm sure you will miss her badly when you're back here in the UK :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[somebody]

Make the most of your time with the missus coz I'm sure you will miss her badly when you're back here in the UK :xxgrinning--00xx3:


True lots of Photos and video of your Mahal and the trip is very important for those cold winter nights once back in blighty:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[bornatbirth]

What? After what you did to me last time:omg:

what do you mean? :Erm: that wasnt me,just how many hugs have you been getting :action-smiley-081: :D

[somebody]

what do you mean? :Erm: that wasnt me,just how many hugs have you been getting :action-smiley-081: :D

That wasn't you:omg:

[bless.books]

Always good for a book flogger :doh:Brick:

James, I read your msg about peace. Don't you think you should make it here, right in this forum, where it started. As for apology - make it to the Filipino people. Try to be sensitive about just about anything.

Okay, there are so many things about our country that needs improvement. Are you going to help tear down or are you going to help build it? (figuratively speaking)
You are forgetting that in this FORUM it is not just us reading it. Anyone in the world is and you don't know them. You might upset people were you could be considered 'Persona non Grata' ... you never know. And don't forget, you are also bringing your wife. So, be very careful.

[somebody]

James, I read your msg about peace. Don't you think you should make it here, right in this forum, where it started. As for apology - make it to the Filipino people. Try to be sensitive about just about anything.

Okay, there are so many things about our country that needs changing. Are you going to help tear down or are you going to help building it?

You are forgetting that in this FORUM it is not just us reading it. Anyone in the world is and you don't know them. You might upset people were you could be considered 'Persona non Grata' ... you never know. And don't forget, you are also bringing your wife. So, be very careful.

Dont you need to tear down before buliding often?

Lets bulid a new Phill where all are equal and treated fairly oh but dont be critcal of the present status quo?

Why would you want to improve something if its perfect and if its not perfect should the mases not pipe up? People power which the country has already seen can happen a bit of self belief is needed surely?


Now James for expressing his views is going to be in trouble:Erm: Is that the UK or Phill or somewhere else?

Why does he need to apolgise to the Phillipine people possibly the senators and rich familes who have screwed the Country should give it ago first?

[Tawi2]

I spoke to a guy once whose pinay wife was writing a book:Erm:He was ex-army,worked in a very specialised field :cwm24:

[bless.books]

Dont you need to tear down before buliding often? Lets bulid a new Phill where all are equal and treated fairly oh but dont be critcal of the present status quo? Why would you want to improve something if its perfect and if its not perfect should the mases not pipe up? People power which the country has already seen can happen a bit of self belief is needed surely? Now James for expressing his views is going to be in trouble:Erm: Is that the UK or Phill or somewhere else? Why does he need to apolgise to the Phillipine people possibly the senators and rich familes who have screwed the Country should give it ago first?


Hello somebody! You sounds funny. I did not say, he will be in trouble, or did I? I said, Be very careful. I tell you what ...

An actress Claire Danes, if my memory serves me right, was considered Persona non grata for a time bec of her stupid mistakes of commenting about pest in the slum area where she had movie filming. It is a slum area! She generalise the whole country where the whole international Community is watching ... a no no obviously ...

Let us stick to what James said, and that is what the apology should be about. He made derogatory remarks on .... ahh, do I have to enumerate. He should know it.

Senators and the like is another topic.

[bornatbirth]

James, I read your msg about peace. Don't you think you should make it here, right in this forum, where it started. As for apology - make it to the Filipino people. Try to be sensitive about just about anything.

Okay, there are so many things about our country that needs changing. Are you going to help tear down or are you going to help building it?

You are forgetting that in this FORUM it is not just us reading it. Anyone in the world is and you don't know them. You might upset people were you could be considered 'Persona non Grata' ... you never know. And don't forget, you are also bringing your wife. So, be very careful.

i have read this and your other replys,what are you going on about :Erm:

i havent read anything james hubbard as written,other than his own opinion which can be considered to be offensive?

i will say sorry for you!

sorry james,btw do i get a free book and signed :Erm: :D

[bornatbirth]

I spoke to a guy once whose pinay wife was writing a book:Erm:He was ex-army,worked in a very specialised field :cwm24:

:icon_lol: you have me hanging for more.

what was the book and what field did he work in?,was he a farmer :Erm:

[Sophie]

I spoke to a guy once whose pinay wife was writing a book:Erm:He was ex-army,worked in a very specialised field :cwm24:

Lol, and the gist of the story is???:Erm::Erm: :D:D:D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Tawi2]

Lol, and the gist of the story is???:Erm::Erm: :D:D:D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
I just realised Bless is an authoress,it reminded me of a guy I met once,jogged a memory :icon_lol:Random thoughts :icon_lol:

[somebody]

Hello somebody! You sounds funny. I did not say, he will be in trouble, or did I? I said, Be very careful. I tell you what ...

An actree Claire Danes, if my memory serves me right, was considered Persona non grata for a time bec of her stupid mistakes about pest in the slum area where she had movie filming. It is a slum, at for one to generalise the whole country is a no no ...

Let us stick to what James said, and that is what the apology should be about. He made derogatory remarks on .... ahh, do I have to enumerate. He should know it.

Senators and the like is another topic.


I sounds funny? Now your asking me if you said James will be in trouble:Erm:

Someone made stupid mistakes about pest in the slum area?

Her statment was a bit random but lets be honest some truth in there and of course the phills banned her films but funny how the president who banned her seemed to do actualy more harm to the country than any comments a film actress i have never heard of untill i googled her would:D

But lets have a go at the person who makes a comment (even if a bit unaccurate) rather than debate with them while we ignore those at the top ensuring millions live in poverty:NoNo:

My Wife, her younger family and her friends (male and female) all educated at some of the best schools and Unis the Phillipines has and none of them vote or have any opnions on their country and the way it is.

Many if they have not already left want a way out of phill and im guessing like most ofws when they come back to retire they will just go back to ignoring all around them:NoNo:

Sadly a place I would want my half phill Kids only to visit on holidays which is sad. To be honest as they will most likely have some of my Irish scots English ask cheeky questions and make franks statments nature they had better be careful:omg:

[somebody]

:icon_lol: you have me hanging for more.

what was the book and what field did he work in?,was he a farmer :Erm:

Wurzel?

[Sophie]

I just realised Bless is an authoress,it reminded me of a guy I met once,jogged a memory :icon_lol:Random thoughts :icon_lol:

LOL :D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

[bornatbirth]

:icon_lol:Random thoughts :icon_lol:

random thoughts or thread hyjacking? :Erm: but what was the book about,i wont sleep until i know :rolleyes:

[bless.books]

[QUOTE=somebody;183332]I sounds funny? Now your asking me if you said James will be in trouble:Erm:

Someone made stupid mistakes about pest in the slum area? Her statment was a bit random but lets be honest some truth in there and of course the phills banned her films but funny how the president who banned her seemed to do actualy more harm to the country than any comments a film actress i have never heard of untill i googled her would:D

Hello somebody! I didn't say the word 'trouble perse' ... I said, he should be very careful when commenting. True or not, again hurting or not, acceptable or not. Just be very careful. You never know who is reading this forum. And sticking to the thread, he posted and others followed. What I am saying is - don't make sweeping statements and be very careful with words. That is all.

[bornatbirth]

Wurzel?

could be? :Erm: but what head is he wearing as hes in a specialised field :icon_lol:

[Peanutz]

Geez, this thread is still going on?

[triple5]

Geez, this thread is still going on?

It was until James myseriously disappeared :Erm:

[Peanutz]

It was until James myseriously disappeared :Erm:


:omg:He's been kidnapped?

[jaishann]

:omg:He's been kidnapped?

no he's gone out... trying to get more filipinos to apply British citizenship :D:D:D

[James Hubbard]

It was until James myseriously disappeared :Erm:

That or - went to bed!


As for bless books, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry that I can't say what you want me to say to protect your feelings. I'm sorry I can't see the sense in covering all my words in sugar to make you happy and most of all I'm sorry that I even got dragged into conversing with someone so silly!

I'm glad that the one (bless books) who's defending heaven/paradise Philippines saw fit to leave it and is now teaching others how to get an ILR.

Once again, sorry :ARsurrender::Cuckoo:

[Sophie]

no he's gone out... trying to get more filipinos to apply British citizenship :D:D:D

:xxgrinning--00xx3::D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[jimeve]

Iam proud to be ENGLISH, not British.

[James Hubbard]

Iam proud to be ENGLISH, not British.

Why?

[jimeve]

Why?

Iam ENGLISH:Erm:

[James Hubbard]

Iam ENGLISH:Erm:
:doh:Brick:
yes you are. You are also British. Why are you not proud to be british?

[jimeve]

:doh:Brick:
yes you are. You are also British. Why are you not proud to be british?

Why should i be,i live in england i don't live anywhere else.
Why should I be proud of Britain :Erm:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Good to know James you have asked for an apology from bless.books. My attention was caught by the title of the thread hence i read it:):xxgrinning--00xx3:. At the start of this thread i said good thread James and a thumbs up::xxgrinning--00xx3:! I was so surprised to read the discussion went through onto the next pages because of the comparison made between a rich country and a poor country:NoNo:.

Good one James you have asked for an apology...:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Good one Bless.books you have said them all in a polite manner....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheers to both of you!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Oh and to add, that is one of the things i like about the UK. People know how to say sorry...:xxgrinning--00xx3: they accept their mistakes...

Regards.
P&P

[Tish]

I thought I just put this one :D

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Why should i be,i live in england i don't live anywhere else.
Why should I be proud of Britain :Erm:

Hmm, this is going to be like talking to blessbooks:Brick::Brick::doh:doh:Brick::Brick:

If you are English (or Scottish, or Welsh, or Northern Irish) you are also British and live in Britain!

You haven't told us though, why you are proud to be English, what is there to be proud of - for you - in being English?

[triple5]

That or - went to bed!

That's a relief, I thought the opinion police may have taken you away.:D

[James Hubbard]

That's a relief, I thought the opinion police may have taken you away.:D

:NoNo:

Nice one mate! I live in the thought-police stronghold . . . could be worse, it could have been singapore :NoNo:

[jimeve]

Hmm, this is going to be like talking to blessbooks:Brick::Brick::doh:doh:Brick::Brick:

If you are English (or Scottish, or Welsh, or Northern Irish) you are also British and live in Britain!

You haven't told us though, why you are proud to be English, what is there to be proud of - for you - in being English?

I am proud of my English Father/Mother and Family,proud of my English upbringing, proud of my English Football, lol proud of my English/ Phillina wife,
proud of my English countryside. getting extremely bored now. so go and talk to your friend.....blessbooks lol goodboy.::D

[James Hubbard]

so go and talk to your friend.....blessbooks lol goodboy.::D

I Thought I was talking to BB . . . . given your style - u and BB seem like one in the same :doh

[jimeve]

I Thought I was talking to BB . . . . given your style - u and BB seem like one in the same :doh

you troll :furious3:

[James Hubbard]

you troll :furious3:

Hmm, interesting.:Erm::Erm:

Someone dares to challange something jimeve says, he's thereby declared a troll.

Whilst, the thread is "proud to be british" . . . he comments, just to mention that he's not! Good contribution :D :REDancedancer08::BlacklistLoser:

Ok, you go and enjoy yourself, you ray of light! Wifey and I going for a pasyal, byes :cwm12::huepfen024::icon_win:

[Tawi2]

Pasyal?Suroy suroy?Anywhere nice?:)

[somebody]

Why should i be,i live in england i don't live anywhere else.
Why should I be proud of Britain :Erm:

Its handy in case Murray wins at Tennis then we can claim him as our own:D

[triple5]

I'm a proud Stokie, Staffordian, Midlander, English, British, European, Earthling :D

[James Hubbard]

Pasyal?Suroy suroy?Anywhere nice?:)

just to get some tempura and some iced tea and associated beverages to watch the fight tonight :D

suroy-suroy - impressed at your knowledge of bisaya!

[walesrob]

Hmm, this is going to be like talking to blessbooks:Brick::Brick::doh:doh:Brick::Brick:

If you are English (or Scottish, or Welsh, or Northern Irish) you are also British and live in Britain!

You haven't told us though, why you are proud to be English, what is there to be proud of - for you - in being English?

Lets face it, who wants to admit being Welsh? :Bolt::D

Theres a song by Catatonia called International Velvet, and the lyrics go "Everyday when I wake up I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" ....hmm not sure about that :Erm:

[James Hubbard]

Lets face it, who wants to admit being Welsh? :Bolt::D

Theres a song by Catatonia called International Velvet, and the lyrics go "Everyday when I wake up I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" ....hmm not sure about that :Erm:

You welshies are great :D

Another thing I am proud of in Britain - Wales :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[somebody]

Lets face it, who wants to admit being Welsh? :Bolt::D

Theres a song by Catatonia called International Velvet, and the lyrics go "Everyday when I wake up I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" ....hmm not sure about that :Erm:

Nothing wrong with being Welsh lets be honest, the Site has to wannabes on here Mr Admin and Mod Dom:D

I have heard whispers that Joe wishes he was really Welsh rather than a Manc:Rasp:

[somebody]

I'm a proud Stokie, Staffordian, Midlander, English, British, European, Earthling :D

Not proud of your glaxy or universe:NoNo:

Just thing up with we join up in the Universe community we can travel and work to all parts of the Universe with no Visas etc. But means loads of Aliens turning up :rolleyes:

[GaryFifer]

You welshies are great :D

Another thing I am proud of in Britain - Wales :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Yeah with their powerful thighs, strong arms-the rugby wives are mingin:Rasp:

[Sophie]

Not proud of your glaxy or universe:NoNo:

Just thing up with we join up in the Universe community we can travel and work to all parts of the Universe with no Visas etc. But means loads of Aliens turning up :rolleyes:

Hmmmm...must be interesting to get to know a handful of aliens and discover what their lives' about in the other planet :rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

[JimOttley]

Its handy in case Murray wins at Tennis then we can claim him as our own:D

The one thing that really gets up the nose of the Scot :icon_lol:

I'm a Scot and proud of it in the same slightly insane chip on shoulder way that most of us Scots are.

But I am also British and I always will be, stronger together and all that :)

Anyway the Scots and the Irish always had the great minds ;)

The likes of

James Clark Maxwell
and
Wullie Thomson (Lord Kelvin )

:D

Jim

[jimeve]

I have no problems with the Scots,Welsh and Ulster. that's Great Britain BTW.
My opinion only, no one else, not even thee James homer sick boy.

whats the point if someone takes the :piss2: out of your post. enough said.

[somebody]

The one thing that really gets up the nose of the Scot :icon_lol:

I'm a Scot and proud of it in the same slightly insane chip on shoulder way that most of us Scots are.

But I am also British and I always will be, stronger together and all that :)

Anyway the Scots and the Irish always had the great minds ;)

The likes of

James Clark Maxwell
and
Wullie Thomson (Lord Kelvin )

:D

Jim

Yeah Newton,Faraday and Darwin were scotish or Irish I belive:Rasp:

[somebody]

Hmmmm...must be interesting to get to know a handful of aliens and discover what their lives' about in the other planet :rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

Yeah but if they invite you to their homeland imagine the journey 15 hours is enough for me, three years to the planet zarg maybe a little tiring:D

[Sophie]

Yeah but if they invite you to their homeland imagine the journey 15 hours is enough for me, three years to the planet zarg maybe a little tiring:D

LOL, true :xxgrinning--00xx3::D:D:icon_lol:

[GaryFifer]

Yeah but if they invite you to their homeland imagine the journey 15 hours is enough for me, three years to the planet zarg maybe a little tiring:D

I think the aliens don't land here. They just part of some tour passing by with their craft.

Conversation on the craft like this: "That's the bad planet down there, we don't stop there, keep going"

Little kid alien ask "Why?" Hey, they are white, black, yellow and they always fighting each other. We are purple. What do you think they would say to us?":ARsurrender:

[Tawi2]

I think the aliens don't land here. They just part of some tour passing by with their craft.

Conversation on the craft like this: "That's the bad planet down there, we don't stop there, keep going"

Little kid alien ask "Why?" Hey, they are white, black, yellow and they always fighting each other. We are purple. What do you think they would say to us?":ARsurrender:

I liked that Gary,very true :icon_lol:

[Sophie]

I think the aliens don't land here. They just part of some tour passing by with their craft.

Conversation on the craft like this: "That's the bad planet down there, we don't stop there, keep going"

Little kid alien ask "Why?" Hey, they are white, black, yellow and they always fighting each other. We are purple. What do you think they would say to us?":ARsurrender:

Hahahaha, nice one gary :D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[GaryFifer]

I am proud because there are no big beastie that can bite you or eat you, sting you, drag you down and bite you, or swallow you whole.

[JimOttley]

Yeah Newton,Faraday and Darwin were scotish or Irish I belive:Rasp:

:icon_lol:

Yeah you lot had a few good ones too :D

I bet they had some Scottish blood though :xxparty-smiley-004:

Jim

[GaryFifer]

:icon_lol:

Yeah you lot had a few good ones too :D

I bet they had some Scottish blood though :xxparty-smiley-004:

Jim

It got lonely on those boats..:icon_lol:

[JimOttley]

I like the general lack of deadly creatures, earthquakes, volcano's i.e. our relative immunity from major natural disasters.



I am proud because there are no big beastie that can bite you or eat you, sting you, drag you down and bite you, or swallow you whole.

I said much the same but your post was much more eloquent Gary :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Jim

[JimOttley]

Yeah but if they invite you to their homeland imagine the journey 15 hours is enough for me, three years to the planet zarg maybe a little tiring:D

So these Aliens absolutley definitley have faster than light ;)

e = mc ^ 2 / Sqrt(1-(v ^2 / c ^ 2))

v > c => m > infinity

Sorry couldn't resist, for a proud to be British thread that is rapidly going off topic and demonstrating that property I mentioned earlier which is that I am proud of our eccentrics :D Even our pedantic eccentrics (like me) :D

Yep 3 years is a bit of a long flight.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:


jim

[GaryFifer]

So these Aliens absolutley definitley have faster than light ;)

e = mc ^ 2 / Sqrt(1-(v ^2 / c ^ 2))

v > c => m > infinity

Sorry couldn't resist, for a proud to be British thread that is rapidly going off topic and demonstrating that property I mentioned earlier which is that I am proud of our eccentrics :D Even our pedantic eccentrics (like me) :D

Yep 3 years is a bit of a long flight.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:
jim

How is the mass > infinity traveling at the c speed of light?
and by > you mean greater than?

[JimOttley]

How is the mass > infinity traveling at the c speed of light?
and by > you mean greater than?

Crap maths on my part mate, I don't need it for computing :), I'm in the pub on my fourth beer :D

The Lorentz Fitzgerald equations provide the limits as I know you know. :)

As v/c approaches 1 and the Sqrt of 1 - almost 1 approaches 0 then as c is a constant m will increase as long as energy e is being put into the system.

I should have put a ? after the v > c => m > infinty

In english for everyone else if the current velocity is greater than the speed of light then it is implied that m would be greater than infinity or more accuratly indeterminate.

The joke was about the 3 years, as the closest place is 4 years away at instantaneous acceleration to lightspeed.

EE Doc Smith Lensman series, the intertialess drive, but he still thought he could get round the c limit :D


Jim

[somebody]

I am proud because there are no big beastie that can bite you or eat you, sting you, drag you down and bite you, or swallow you whole.

Just the scotish midgies which lets hope never mutate:D

[JimOttley]

Just the scotish midgies which lets hope never mutate:D

oops yer right I forgot aboot them wee :censored: :D

Jim

[Pepe n Pilar]

It is actually impossible to exceed the speed of light, but you can get around it by bending (warping) space or using a type of stable wormhole - this overcomes the mass > infinity problem. Or maybe all that beer has just made my mind warped. :-)

Regards

Mr P & P

[JimOttley]

It is actually impossible to exceed the speed of light, but you can get around it by bending (warping) space or using a type of stable wormhole - this overcomes the mass > infinity problem. Or maybe all that beer has just made my mind warped. :-)

Regards

Mr P & P

heheheheh :)

Maybe, however the energy density required to open a stable wormhole may well be so high that the result would be a black hole :D

It's all wonderful hypotheses just now and even more wonderful that we are alive at a time when we can speculate on stuff like this.

Another great Irish British lady Jocelyn Bell! who discovered Pulsars! (to stay on topic :))

Jim

[somebody]

With all this speak of Speed of Light it doesn't matter how fast and if can go faster than speed of light and e=mc squared and what not. PLant Zarg and all its neigbours have the great british most hated device yes the speed camera..

[bless.books]

Never found a library Gary but I've been in lots of Museums in Manila. Also Corregidor the whole island is a museum :)
The Pacific War Memorial, I found this place very moving.

I agree though National Bookstore is a bit expensive :) Jim


Hello JimOttley! I am deeply moved by these attachments of yours. There are small bookshops around Malate, Timog - I've forgotten the names. I can only remember Boundbooks around Timog (but went online). The are big ones Powerbooks and one in Trinoma ( I forgot the name).

[bless.books]

have we met :Erm:

Hello bornabirth! :NoNo:

[bless.books]

Don't think that because the British people are "not arrogant" that you can treat us in a derogatory and disparaging way . . . but just remember this . . . the more you antagonise anyone in here, the less credibility your book receives . . :Erm:[/QUOTE]

Credibility? Reputation? I am not under any alias/pseudonym. I am the one at risk here, bec what's displayed is my name, and can be proved. And what are you doing to my little work. Whilst, you mentioned you will be using alias, how does one know, you are really James Hubbard? I am not antagonising anyone here, neither you. You felt I antagonise you because I questions some of your points. And you became personal.

[bless.books]

i have read this and your other replys,what are you going on about :Erm: i havent read anything james hubbard as written,other than his own opinion which can be considered to be offensive?
i will say sorry for you! sorry james,btw do i get a free book and signed :Erm: :D

Hello bornabirth! Are you saying sorry for me or you are saying sorry in behalf of James? Hmm, about the book ... it is not free hahaha :)

[bless.books]

I just realised Bless is an authoress,it reminded me of a guy I met once,jogged a memory :icon_lol:Random thoughts :icon_lol:

Hello Tawi2! Thanks, you noticed me :D:BouncyHappy: I am an architect. Just trying hard to write ...

[bless.books]

That or - went to bed!
As for bless books, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I can't say what you want me to say to protect your feelings. I'm sorry I can't see the sense in covering all my words in sugar to make you happy and most of all I'm sorry that I even got dragged into conversing with someone so silly! I'm glad that the one (bless books) who's defending heaven/paradise Philippines saw fit to leave it and is now teaching others how to get an ILR. Once again, sorry :ARsurrender::Cuckoo:

Hello James! It is not my feeling nor pride. I am about concern about the notion you have for the country. Nothing personal here. I am not hurt or anything. Just that I have so much high expectatins from a British like you. What did we get? You have derogatory remarks about Philippines. Shouldn't you rrealise that that is not accpetable in world of respect and manners? I did not claim Philippines is a paradise. Fine if Philippines is a rubbish, I will not get hurt or offended at all. But I would ask you, what are you doing to do about it being Proud to be British?

[bless.books]

Iam proud to be ENGLISH, not British.

Hello jimeve! I'd like that ...:D:Cuckoo::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[bless.books]

Good to know James you have asked for an apology from bless.books. Good one James you have asked for an apology...:xxgrinning--00xx3: Good one Bless.books you have said them all in a polite manner....:xxgrinning--00xx3: Cheers to both of you!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Oh and to add, that is one of the things i like about the UK. People know how to say sorry...:xxgrinning--00xx3: they accept their mistakes... Regards.
P&P

Hello P&P! Indeed, 'saying sorry' is one of the things worth mentioning about ... and admiration for those who are sports. As for james, I don't thiink he really meant saying sorry. Topic PROUD TO BE BRITISH has nothing to do with PHILIPPINES. And that is another subject.

[bless.books]

I Thought I was talking to BB . . . . given your style - u and BB seem like one in the same :doh

Talking about me? :)

[bless.books]

Lets face it, who wants to admit being Welsh? :Bolt::D Theres a song by Catatonia called International Velvet, and the lyrics go "Everyday when I wake up I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" ....hmm not sure about that :Erm:

:Erm::Hellooo::icon_lol::D

[walesrob]

More complaints, thread now closed.