my job hunting..

[pocahontas]

well..well..well been busy few days.. its been 4hrs from now since my last interview today for the second job that i found. in my interview yesterday, it was good funny and again headache english..when i came there i need to fill up first a company form then waited tobe called for interview. theres 3person inside the room who will interviewed u well im the 4th person inside the room.. well.. to make the long story short, the job is not for me. coz it was a fundraising for the blind people which i really dont mind, to ask people to give some donations we went to a train station . so i really dont think that ill be doing that job, coz as much as possible i want to do a work you know real work like in any factory, any retail, not a fundraising like asking money for all poeple as much as you can..

and today my interview hm...again it was not for me, though i undergo to interview and fill up again a company form. i went this very early morning interview. hm... anyway just keep on looking and trying.......:doh:Brick::D

well i post a picture here of mine today when i went to the interview but not in the office only in the house..hehe:icon_lol: i also wear that yesterday interview..:icon_lol: hehe parang manager pero la parin trabaho....:bigcry:

FYI i dont stop looking for job, infact when i came home id just sent 5 cv through on line that i have seen in ree.co.uk website for retaill and i also manage to give cv again in same store that i already had..feeling ko kc bk tinatapon lang hehe kaya give ako ulit..:icon_lol:

[liane]

Thanks for sharing your experience in your job hunting! I know you will find the right job for you soon. It's important that the job you have is something you enjoy doing or else you won't last:doh

Keep on trying, with your perseverance and hard work you will surely find one. Take this as a challenge:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[RuBiX]

You can do it Poca!!:xxgrinning--00xx3: Thanks for sharing your job hunting and your lovely life as well..:xxgrinning--00xx3::Hellooo:
You're such a happy and attractive lady..:xxgrinning--00xx3::Hellooo::BouncyHappy:Keep it up!!!You'll find a job soon..:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Itaas mo ang bandera ng Pilipinas..lol...Hope one day, you'll post a thread saying, You got a job!!!:cwm12::BouncyHappy::cwm12:
Don't give up..:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Keep posting...Have a lovely day...

[whiteraven]

things are hard at the moment especially in retail. but with your enthusiasm im sure the right job will come your way eventually:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Leo]

Hi with Christmas round the corner should be plenty of retail work about at least you get a foot in the door

[pocahontas]

thank you to all of you guyssss, you know i also give an application form with my cv to tesco in city center last week although they dont have a post job in the store. and just thought to try it and i download their application form. hm.. im really waiting for that.. and also as i said ..i always walking to city center with my cv on my hand. in fact i give my cv again to those stores that i alreayd had baka nga makulitan sakin eh but nothing to worries because before i go inside the store.. before doing that i make sure that the person i gave my cv first is not there..and lucky that person is not there..so i grabbed the chance to give my cv again for the second time in different person..is just kind of frustrating that how come the post is still there and yet theyre not calling me yet they didnt know that i am what they looking for..when theyre going to realize that...hehe..i have already change my cv and put some good lies on it just to make it interesting.......and one morething its more frustrating when i saw them just putting in the table of the countrer......huhuhu, kung pwede lang sabihin na PWEDE BIGAY MONA SA MANAGER NIYO NG MAKITA NA..HEHEHE..8-) dont worry fellow filipina, because of the massive encouragement that you giving to me in this forum it helps me to be fine stop my self esteem...well you know im just a human and get tired too..hehe drama nman....but ok im fine.. got to go going to gymmmmmm dadaaan ko nalang to sa gym, i will do a cross training machine for 30minutes..hehehehe kung kaya ko lang ha.8-) GOODEVERNINGGGGGG8-)

[September]

I heard lots of filipina here work in nursing home, and as youre pretty the job wasnt fit for you,IMO coz youre too sexy for the job, youre good to be a singer but you had your husband w/ you, so no chance to work like that, tough life, but yeah keep going one of this day, you will have it for sure, mark my word

[pocahontas]

I heard lots of filipina here work in nursing home, and as youre pretty the job wasnt fit for you,IMO coz youre too sexy for the job, youre good to be a singer but you had your husband w/ you, so no chance to work like that, tough life, but yeah keep going one of this day, you will have it for sure, mark my word

:Hellooo:thanks september..is that your real name?? cool. month..:D i guess your bday is also in september..hehe anyway di naman po, im looking to apply din na nursing home.di na me namimili ng job well wag lang muna yung mag kakakatok sa door hehe..siguro pag no choice nako. i had a first attempt to apply as a care assistant i send application form. nalaman ko yan sa friend ko na nag wowork din sa nursing home. sabi niya almost 1mont before siya tinawagan for an interview nung nursing home since my application been 2weeks now so ok parin me chance parin. hehe..:icon_lol: i hope MAGDILANG ANGHEL KA..AMEN..:smileybigtmouth: btw...i used to be a singer in japan..8-) kahit di pang kanto lang ang boses ko..hehe GOODEVENING..

[pocahontas]

Hi with Christmas round the corner should be plenty of retail work about at least you get a foot in the door

:Hellooo:i can always get in the door and i wish i could stay there for a long life time.......:D

[thejarvs]

All you can do is keep trying, perserverance will surely pay-off. It's a good time to be looking as shops often require extra staff over the Christmas period. I'm sure an employer will see how much of an asset you could be to their business :)

Good luck

[bornatbirth]

All you can do is keep trying, perserverance will surely pay-off. It's a good time to be looking as shops often require extra staff over the Christmas period. I'm sure an employer will see how much of an asset you could be to their business :)

Good luck

i second that :xxgrinning--00xx3:

just use the interviews you already had as practice,im sure you will get a job soon and try not to get to discouraged :BouncyHappy:

always try to :D

[somebody]

To get Interviews is a good indicator, only those who look promising are normally invited for Interviews.
As others say even if you dont get the job its good experience and dont forget if possible to ask for feedback on why you were not sucessful or how you did.
I cant blame you not wanting to be a chugger its a hard enough job for a young Confident Brit let alone someone who has recently come to the UK.

Your photos show a smart, attractive bubbly smiling person who is if i was looking to employ a customer facing member of staff would be a real positive:)

First impressions really do count.

Your experince as a singer in Japan is also a postive.

Dont forget to think of all the skills,experience and abilties you have. Employers dont just look for qualfications and job experience.

People in retail need to have the abilty to be good with people, be able to work on their own and as part of a team. Abilty to work under pressure, be a fast learner the list goes on.

Always good to have examples of where you can show you have demostrated skills you may need in the workplace.

Always good to check with the Job agencies sometimes you only get a short temp piece of work but it gives you experience. Some will help you with CV and how to sell your self.

Have you checked with the local charity shops. The Wife had a short stint in one, it gave her some basic retail experience and working with Brits. An employer will like the fact you are both gaining experiences and giving your time to a good cause.

The Wife has a friend from her hometown who works in Leeds in a carehome, just the mere fact you are a Filipina will probably give you one tick as like all over the UK they have a hard earned reputation for being some of the best care home workers:xxgrinning--00xx3:

My Wife thought it was an impossible task to get a job in the UK but she managed and so will you maam:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Keep us updated and all you have Women and Men looking for work we want to as a family help and encourage you all:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[pennybarry]

Same here friend, although I got another job that soon to start, I'm still hoping I can find the job that I will really enjoy.:bigcry: But I know it's not that easy in Britain.
There are some factories here but all seafood factories and they all seasonal because only few fishing boat during winter. You can work 6-10 months in a year but will not make you permanent. So if you are not picky, there's always job here. I am not picky but I don't want to work standing the rest of my life.:omg:
I grabbed the opportunity to study during my recovery days. I hope this will help me find better job someday.
Studying ECDL here, but really hard as it's fast tract and I feel the pressure:bigcry::Brick::CompBuster:.
Also studying in another training school in Edinburgh about Dreamweaver 8 Web Design, I love it and no pressure:xxgrinning--00xx3: and soon I will have my Carer training.
Very interesting 3 courses, and hoping to inherit some intelligency about computer from Joeblogs, Somebody and the boss Keith.:doh

[somebody]

Same here friend, although I got another job that soon to start, I'm still hoping I can find the job that I will really enjoy.:bigcry: But I know it's not that easy in Britain.
There are some factories here but all seafood factories and they all seasonal because only few fishing boat during winter. You can work 6-10 months in a year but will not make you permanent. So if you are not picky, there's always job here. I am not picky but I don't want to work standing the rest of my life.:omg:
I grabbed the opportunity to study during my recovery days. I hope this will help me find better job someday.
Studying ECDL here, but really hard as it's fast tract and I feel the pressure:bigcry::Brick::CompBuster:.
Also studying in another training school in Edinburgh about Dreamweaver 8 Web Design, I love it and no pressure:xxgrinning--00xx3: and soon I will have my Carer training.
Very interesting 3 courses, and hoping to inherit some intelligency about computer from Joeblogs, Somebody and the boss Keith.:doh


Penny again any employer would look at your CV seeing you are willing to work hard and study hard. That you also have a broad range skills,experience and qualfications:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Sounds as if you are gaining some very useful skills and qualfications:xxgrinning--00xx3: Your doing all three courses at once maam:Erm: Blimey that really shows dedication:)

[pocahontas]

Same here friend, although I got another job that soon to start, I'm still hoping I can find the job that I will really enjoy.:bigcry: But I know it's not that easy in Britain.
There are some factories here but all seafood factories and they all seasonal because only few fishing boat during winter. You can work 6-10 months in a year but will not make you permanent. So if you are not picky, there's always job here. I am not picky but I don't want to work standing the rest of my life.:omg:
I grabbed the opportunity to study during my recovery days. I hope this will help me find better job someday.
Studying ECDL here, but really hard as it's fast tract and I feel the pressure:bigcry::Brick::CompBuster:.
Also studying in another training school in Edinburgh about Dreamweaver 8 Web Design, I love it and no pressure:xxgrinning--00xx3: and soon I will have my Carer training.
Very interesting 3 courses, and hoping to inherit some intelligency about computer from Joeblogs, Somebody and the boss Keith.:doh


no one can stop you mam..as somebody say...i salute you having manage to get 3courses. apply ako sayo ha in your future business carer...:D when you have dreams it really drive you there. and i want all the best to you friend.. stay dreamer as you are..:) BTW nice pic san to? what you doing this moment and though to take pictures? how boutmore??:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[ANDRES25]

I admire your determination and courage in hunting for a job. I arrived here last feb 2009, started my first job as a care assistant last June. Not my dream job but I gotta do it for now just to be able to send money back home. It took us a month waiting for my CRB. You got the right attitude and I hope you find a job very soon!

[pennybarry]

Penny again any employer would look at your CV seeing you are willing to work hard and study hard. That you also have a broad range skills,experience and qualfications:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Sounds as if you are gaining some very useful skills and qualfications:xxgrinning--00xx3: Your doing all three courses at once maam:Erm: Blimey that really shows dedication:)

Thanks Somebody! I started my ECDL course 5 weeks ago and it is hard. As a matter of fact, I failed my preliminary exam.:bigcry: The exam has 6 categories. Using application, Document creation, Formatting etc. But I got only 70% because the time runs out and I had no answer with the last two categories. The office said it might be the language barrier that's why I got failing grade because I was too slow.:doh But my teacher said, I might just need practice because Office 2007 is different from what I've leaned. (1997,2003) But in my opinion, I tried to understand well the question before I put my answer, and I'm always lost in finding all the function tabs that I need to click. It takes ages for me to locate the exact location of the functions. It's hard because it's fastract and teacher will not teach you the whole functions. So I study hard the CD about ECDL.

I enrolled my Dreamweaver in a private Training school in Edinburgh. It is great because we have 3 teachers in the room and you can ask everything you want to know if you are stuck!:). It's far but there's bus and train so go for it!

I applied as volunteer 6 weeks ago. They will provide and pay my caregiving course. It is interesting because they need to check my background.:icon_lol: I got my ENHANCED Disclosure certificate yesterday and thanks God! I have no record in Pinas. :xxgrinning--00xx3: It took 6 weeks before I got my certificate and next week, I may start my course.

I am determined to learn:doh:doh:Brick::CompBuster: I have my Dreamweaver 8 in my laptop but I don't know how to use it.:bigcry: That's why I enrolled.


no one can stop you mam..as somebody say...i salute you having manage to get 3courses. apply ako sayo ha in your future business carer...:D when you have dreams it really drive you there. and i want all the best to you friend.. stay dreamer as you are..:) BTW nice pic san to? what you doing this moment and though to take pictures? how boutmore??:xxgrinning--00xx3:

It's really hard but it is my dream to learn more about webpage design.:BouncyHappy:
Photo was taken my friend in Edinburgh central. We had nice time together.

[pocahontas]

wow your lucky coz you can just enrolled like that and no need to worry in money. so go go gooooooo and get your dreams...GOODMORNING.. 8-)

[pennybarry]

wow your lucky coz you can just enrolled like that and no need to worry in money. so go go gooooooo and get your dreams...GOODMORNING.. 8-)

I did worry too! :D So I shared my problem with Mom and husband.
I got ILA Scotland cost £200 but course cost £320 and Mom paid the rest.
ILA funded £200. Thanks to Scotland Gov't.:xxgrinning--00xx3::BouncyHappy:
Hubby gives me transportation and food allowance.
Now, my brain is suffering. :bigcry::icon_lol:

[tiger@tigress]

Good luck to all the job hunters...

[somebody]

Thanks Somebody! I started my ECDL course 5 weeks ago and it is hard. As a matter of fact, I failed my preliminary exam.:bigcry: The exam has 6 categories. Using application, Document creation, Formatting etc. But I got only 70% because the time runs out and I had no answer with the last two categories. The office said it might be the language barrier that's why I got failing grade because I was too slow.:doh But my teacher said, I might just need practice because Office 2007 is different from what I've leaned. (1997,2003) But in my opinion, I tried to understand well the question before I put my answer, and I'm always lost in finding all the function tabs that I need to click. It takes ages for me to locate the exact location of the functions. It's hard because it's fastract and teacher will not teach you the whole functions. So I study hard the CD about ECDL.

I enrolled my Dreamweaver in a private Training school in Edinburgh. It is great because we have 3 teachers in the room and you can ask everything you want to know if you are stuck!:). It's far but there's bus and train so go for it!

I applied as volunteer 6 weeks ago. They will provide and pay my caregiving course. It is interesting because they need to check my background.:icon_lol: I got my ENHANCED Disclosure certificate yesterday and thanks God! I have no record in Pinas. :xxgrinning--00xx3: It took 6 weeks before I got my certificate and next week, I may start my course.

I am determined to learn:doh:doh:Brick::CompBuster: I have my Dreamweaver 8 in my laptop but I don't know how to use it.:bigcry: That's why I enrolled.



It's really hard but it is my dream to learn more about webpage design.:BouncyHappy:
Photo was taken my friend in Edinburgh central. We had nice time together.

HI Penny with regards the running out of time, it can happen to us all sometimes but worth investigating if you can have a little extra time? Some exams allow those with dyslexia or reading difficulties to have some extra time. Worth investigating you never know.

Dreamweaver 8 a great application and plenty of info on line from users of all levels and many like to make websites (as you would expect:D )


http://www.teacherclick.com/dreamweaver8/index.htm

Always worth having a google around years ago many companies and colleges course work appeared on google but most have wised up to that:D


Do you have office 2007 at home, does your courses qualify you to get a student version which is far cheaper? You can of course download a free trial
many people keep a spare pc or HD which they keep flattening so can load on the trial versions microsoft provide for there training at home

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/ha101741481033.aspx


Dont forget to use the help on office 2007 and online microsoft web help they spend millions making sure people understand how to use as best they can. As do many other sites, google or bing really is your best friend/s:D

simply type guide to office 2007 in to your search engine have a mug of your favourite drink and start reading and watching.

Thats how most people in offices have to learn and loads of material out there:D

Good luck with the Caregiving course:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[pennybarry]

HI Penny with regards the running out of time, it can happen to us all sometimes but worth investigating if you can have a little extra time? Some exams allow those with dyslexia or reading difficulties to have some extra time. Worth investigating you never know.

Dreamweaver 8 a great application and plenty of info on line from users of all levels and many like to make websites (as you would expect:D )


http://www.teacherclick.com/dreamweaver8/index.htm

Always worth having a google around years ago many companies and colleges course work appeared on google but most have wised up to that:D


Do you have office 2007 at home, does your courses qualify you to get a student version which is far cheaper? You can of course download a free trial
many people keep a spare pc or HD which they keep flattening so can load on the trial versions microsoft provide for there training at home

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/ha101741481033.aspx


Dont forget to use the help on office 2007 and online microsoft web help they spend millions making sure people understand how to use as best they can. As do many other sites, google or bing really is your best friend/s:D

simply type guide to office 2007 in to your search engine have a mug of your favourite drink and start reading and watching.

Thats how most people in offices have to learn and loads of material out there:D

Good luck with the Caregiving course:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thank you very much Somebody.:xxgrinning--00xx3::)
I think I have no dyslexia as I can read very fast:Rasp:. But without understanding what I read.:D If I need to understand the test questions, it will take a bit slow for me. :doh I got two 100% among the 6 categories. But because I had no answers with the last two, it made me failed my exam.:bigcry: I also use the help button even during our exams. :Help1: I cheat myself.:Help1::doh

I have all my CD as my husband provided. I have also my Tutorial CD for Dreamweaver 8, ECDL, and Adobe Photoshop. But sometimes, I'm stuck with my Dreamweaver tutorial CD.:Brick: I need someone to ask that's why I prefered to enrol in a private training school. I love it and found out that I like my Dreamweaver course than ECDL.:CompBuster:

I can't imagine that I can make 2 webpages now.:omg: I am now focusing with cascading and html.:BouncyHappy::cwm12: Thanks for the assistance of the school for having long patience with me.:cwm38::ARsurrender:

I am looking forward for my caregiving course. My volunteering job will be 2 hours per week only.

Thank you for the helpful links! It will add my knowledge and will visit the site often.

[sweetmanning]

whew...sis dont worry u will surely get a job soon!!!!!!!!!!! :Hellooo: kapatid u said u are making it sure that u dont give ur cv to the same person and u keep on giving them cv's para makasiguro...hmmm...baka naman your office dress(red and green) ang familiar na sa kanila..just kidding sis love u!

i saw some of your photos in fs.. check it sis i posted some comments.

GO girl! we can do it....but for now seens u are so tired going around for job hunting....mmmm lam mo na dapat gawin to chill out!! paki labas nga VIDEOKE!:BouncyHappy::BouncyHappy:

all the best.. chat w u later!!

[somebody]

Thank you very much Somebody.:xxgrinning--00xx3::)
I think I have no dyslexia as I can read very fast:Rasp:. But without understanding what I read.:D If I need to understand the test questions, it will take a bit slow for me. :doh I got two 100% among the 6 categories. But because I had no answers with the last two, it made me failed my exam.:bigcry: I also use the help button even during our exams. :Help1: I cheat myself.:Help1::doh

I have all my CD as my husband provided. I have also my Tutorial CD for Dreamweaver 8, ECDL, and Adobe Photoshop. But sometimes, I'm stuck with my Dreamweaver tutorial CD.:Brick: I need someone to ask that's why I prefered to enrol in a private training school. I love it and found out that I like my Dreamweaver course than ECDL.:CompBuster:

I can't imagine that I can make 2 webpages now.:omg: I am now focusing with cascading and html.:BouncyHappy::cwm12: Thanks for the assistance of the school for having long patience with me.:cwm38::ARsurrender:

I am looking forward for my caregiving course. My volunteering job will be 2 hours per week only.

Thank you for the helpful links! It will add my knowledge and will visit the site often.

Hi Penny I very much doubt you have dyslexia or reading difficulties but always worth seeing if as English is offcialing your second language if you can use it to your advantage:)

Im sure you will pick up 2007 very quickly :xxgrinning--00xx3:

ECDL is just your run of the mill programs which everyone has to use and I doubt many find exciting use well maybe Joe Bloggs does:D:Rasp:

[RickyR]

It's a tough time to be looking for work, whilst you look very beautiful in your photos, I would highly recommend investing in a good smart trouser suit for office and retail based. Also, whilst Filipino/Filipinas tend to have an excellent command of the English language, I would recommend having a English friend look over your CV/Applications at some of the written grammar which might need a little tweaking.
I hope this advice is helpful, and I wish you all the look.
P.S If you want me to look over your CV, I'd be happy to help any of the members here.

[somebody]

It's a tough time to be looking for work, whilst you look very beautiful in your photos, I would highly recommend investing in a good smart trouser suit for office and retail based. Also, whilst Filipino/Filipinas tend to have an excellent command of the English language, I would recommend having a English friend look over your CV/Applications at some of the written grammar which might need a little tweaking.
I hope this advice is helpful, and I wish you all the look.
P.S If you want me to look over your CV, I'd be happy to help any of the members here.

Very true this week i have had to assit the Wife with a business plan she was asked to create for a promotion assement at her workplace. Her first drafts layout and use of English needed some editing and suggestions from a person who had experience in what the British workplace expects.
Sometimes the changes are very subtle but make a big difference.

Now im reworking her little sisters Resume as she looks for work experience while at uni. She was given a very tired template by her tutor which says nothing about the candidate and if used in the UK would go straight in the reject pile:NoNo:

There is plenty of free info on the Internet and the Wife found regarding interviews books in the Brillant range were very handy.

Do find recent books or articles on CV's and Interviews as their are changes and trends change over time regarding CV's Interviewing and recruiment in general.
Dont forget the cover letter as with Visas a good cover letter whether a genric CV and Cover letter (handy to have on file in case a job opening or promotion pops up out of the blue) or one written for a particular job can make all the difference.

Dont expect Hubbys to be experts on interviews and CV's they may not have needed to make one for years. Find those who have been active in the job market or employing others recently:)

Update your CV on a regular basis and before moving over and during the long wait for visa approval a good time when your both on the web why not start on your CV.
Dont forget if passing your CV do make sure what detail you leave on the sheet. I your Date of Birth really needed would your age not suffice? Especially if simply handing into a shop, where it maybe left under a counter for the manager?

[pennybarry]

Hi Penny I very much doubt you have dyslexia or reading difficulties but always worth seeing if as English is offcialing your second language if you can use it to your advantage:)

Im sure you will pick up 2007 very quickly :xxgrinning--00xx3:

ECDL is just your run of the mill programs which everyone has to use and I doubt many find exciting use well maybe Joe Bloggs does:D:Rasp:

Maybe i have dyslexia when it comes to English.:omg: But with Tagalog, I'm sure I have not.:icon_lol:

I have lots of practice last week. But still there's some topics that I need to do more exercises. Mail Merge, IF functions, and Graph.:doh Power point is the easiest.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

To be honest, Web Design is more interesting than ECDL. BUt you can use ECDL outside UK.

[somebody]

Maybe i have dyslexia when it comes to English.:omg: But with Tagalog, I'm sure I have not.:icon_lol:

I have lots of practice last week. But still there's some topics that I need to do more exercises. Mail Merge, IF functions, and Graph.:doh Power point is the easiest.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

To be honest, Web Design is more interesting than ECDL. BUt you can use ECDL outside UK.

I very much doubt half the people who claim to have Dyslexia do but even when i was at uni many used it as an excuse for extra reading time cough ahem:rolleyes:

Very true Powerpoint is far more fun if you like web design compared to word and excel and lets talk about access now thewrs a big yawn inducer:D

ECDL like the title says is just to say you have everyday computer skills and many schools and unis get the pupils to take. As its showing that for most Jobs which involve a PC as a tool you will be fine:xxgrinning--00xx3:

A very useful course for many moving to the UK from Phill, where 5 years ago anyhow i remeber seeing many offices/workplaces which had very few Computers and very few where each worker had a PC.

[pocahontas]

:)
It's a tough time to be looking for work, whilst you look very beautiful in your photos, I would highly recommend investing in a good smart trouser suit for office and retail based. Also, whilst Filipino/Filipinas tend to have an excellent command of the English language, I would recommend having a English friend look over your CV/Applications at some of the written grammar which might need a little tweaking.
I hope this advice is helpful, and I wish you all the look.
P.S If you want me to look over your CV, I'd be happy to help any of the members here.

:Hellooo:hello first of all regards to your lovelywife or are you the filipina who reply me in this post..if yes hm..ok salamat ha..:D anyway i do actually have coming interview in my very patience waiting for those cv i send before..so far i have one coming hehe anyway. still i want to show you my cv ido also some covering letter depends on the job that i will apply so id just only show my cv ok...:)

tell me what you think would be great for any suggestion and changes for the better...