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newracy
13th January 2010, 16:30
Hi - this is my first post so please be gentle. I am pinay, and have a two year old daughter who holds a British passport as her father is British. He still supports her, but we are no longer involved as he already has a family in the UK. I very much want my daughter to be brought up in the UK, but her father cant take care of her, and really I want to bring her up. How can I get her to UK so she can have all the benefits of being raised there (she is after all a British Citizen)?

Thanks for your help!

aphrodite78
13th January 2010, 17:56
hi newracy,

hello and welcome to the forum. i am not too familiar with how you could get your daughter to get here in the uk. perhaps some forum members can help you with your queries. again welcome aboard and hopefully you'll find the answer to your queries.

IainBusby
13th January 2010, 17:57
Hi - this is my first post so please be gentle. I am pinay, and have a two year old daughter who holds a British passport as her father is British. He still supports her, but we are no longer involved as he already has a family in the UK. I very much want my daughter to be brought up in the UK, but her father cant take care of her, and really I want to bring her up. How can I get her to UK so she can have all the benefits of being raised there (she is after all a British Citizen)?

Thanks for your help!

I would say that unless you can find yourself another Brit, get married or engaged and get a visa to come to the UK yourself, the chances of getting your daughter to the UK are extremely slim.

kimmi
13th January 2010, 18:41
Hi - this is my first post so please be gentle. I am pinay, and have a two year old daughter who holds a British passport as her father is British. He still supports her, but we are no longer involved as he already has a family in the UK. I very much want my daughter to be brought up in the UK, but her father cant take care of her, and really I want to bring her up. How can I get her to UK so she can have all the benefits of being raised there (she is after all a British Citizen)?

Thanks for your help!

hi newracy,

welcome to the forum.Are u still in the Philippines or here in the UK?

Arthur Little
14th January 2010, 00:14
I would say that unless you can find yourself another Brit, get married or engaged and get a visa to come to the UK yourself, the chances of getting your daughter to the UK are extremely slim.

I'm sorry to say this, Iain ... but it sounds a rather drastic measure - the young lady "HAVING", as it were, to find another British guy, purely for the sake of her daughter [who's half-English/Scots, or whatever, by blood] being brought-up in the UK. I mean ... :Erm: ... SURELY there must be SOME other way ... although I confess, I DON'T know HOW ... she can fulfill her ambitions for the child's future ...

Arthur Little
14th January 2010, 01:06
Hi - this is my first post so please be gentle. I am pinay, and have a two year old daughter who holds a British passport as her father is British. He still supports her, but we are no longer involved as he already has a family in the UK. I very much want my daughter to be brought up in the UK, but her father cant take care of her, and really I want to bring her up. How can I get her to UK so she can have all the benefits of being raised there (she is after all a British Citizen)?

Thanks for your help!

:Hellooo: ... and :welcomex:

I truly empathise with your plight. And I realise that, as a caring mother, you naturally want the best possible future for your daughter. Sadly, :bigcry: my co-forumer and friend, Iain is correct in reasoning that the British Embassy has extremely strict guidelines as regards granting a visa to a single parent in your situation. At the same time, I, personally, feel you would be ill-advised in embarking on a serious relationship/marriage of convenience ... simply in order to ensure your child is raised and/or educated in the UK.

It's early days, yet. I doubt if the Embassy is likely to adopt a more lenient stance. But it MIGHT just be possible that further [alternative] opinions on the subject will be forthcoming if you continue to log onto this site.

Sim11UK
14th January 2010, 08:37
I would stay where you are, what your daughter needs, is love from you her mother, not some perceived idea, of how great it is to live in the UK.
If her father is supporting her & continues to support her, then you are definately better staying put. She can maybe look into coming here, when she is a young adult. :)

KeithD
14th January 2010, 09:52
.....how great it is to live in the UK.....
Oh how we wish that was true :icon_lol: Your trying to get in, we're all trying to get out :D

pennybarry
14th January 2010, 10:39
Hi - this is my first post so please be gentle. I am pinay, and have a two year old daughter who holds a British passport as her father is British. He still supports her, but we are no longer involved as he already has a family in the UK. I very much want my daughter to be brought up in the UK, but her father cant take care of her, and really I want to bring her up. How can I get her to UK so she can have all the benefits of being raised there (she is after all a British Citizen)?

Thanks for your help!

If her dad is supporting her, I would prefer to live there. There are some places in the Philippines that is good to raise children and study in a reputable school.

Really it will be too hard to send your daughter here if your interest is benefits. Child benefit is not that big enough. Council house is not free and everything is expensive.

If he's not supporting your child, I'm sure you can make actions for this.

IainBusby
14th January 2010, 10:58
I'm sorry to say this, Iain ... but it sounds a rather drastic measure - the young lady "HAVING", as it were, to find another British guy, purely for the sake of her daughter [who's half-English/Scots, or whatever, by blood] being brought-up in the UK. I mean ... :Erm: ... SURELY there must be SOME other way ... although I confess, I DON'T know HOW ... she can fulfill her ambitions for the child's future ...

Hi Arthur, I wasn't really being too serious about her finding another Brit and getting married, I was just trying to make her understand that unless she can find a way to get a visa to come to the UK in her own right, then the chances of her daughter being allowed to come are extremely low. Even if the father was prepared to have her, look after and house her, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give her a visa because, as they would probably see it, she has someone to care for her in the Philippines.

aphrodite78
14th January 2010, 13:36
Hi newracy,

I myself got the same question on how i could get my children to uk so that we can be a complete family but our situation is different as I am already in the uk; i've got my family here and recently been naturalized and still I myself has to go through a very strict procedure. And yeah u are right your daughter deserve better but who doesn't? But like what others said on these forum u will have a slim chance of getting you both here. If her father is supporting her that's great (mind you u are lucky because her father didn't shun on his responsibility) and if it's working that way then why change? It's not all easy here to be honest and like what penny said the benefits is not really great. It pays for some expenses for bringing up a child but not all as the cost of living is very expensive here. *And u will still have to work to enable u to pay for all the bills. And job offers is very rare. Perhaps when she's an adult and she still wants to come and live here she can apply to live here but in my honest opinion if her father is supporting her and you are not in a dire condition then it's best for u to just stay put. I am a mother as well and like you I want what's best for my kids and if only our business would thrive in the phils I wouldn't stay here I will be on the next plane out. **

newracy
15th January 2010, 07:13
thanx guys i really appreciate your thoughts but its the father who wants us to go there,he just cant do something or he cant thik of a way on how he can help us in getting us there

newracy
15th January 2010, 07:27
is it possible for us to go there just to visit/tour for a week????????

newracy
15th January 2010, 07:31
yes i am here in the philippines

newracy
15th January 2010, 07:33
I would say that unless you can find yourself another Brit, get married or engaged and get a visa to come to the UK yourself, the chances of getting your daughter to the UK are extremely slim.
Can you find me Ian?hehehe

fred
15th January 2010, 09:47
Even if the father was prepared to have her, look after and house her, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give her a visa because, as they would probably see it, she has someone to care for her in the Philippines.


Ian..Are you talking about the mother or the child? The child is British so why the need for a visa??
The childs future depends heavily on the fathers future support..Long may it continue..I agree though that he/she is better off here with the mother..
Its a shame the little ones nationality has no bearing on the mothers prospects to live in the UK IMO... I guess another non speaking European took her place by default!:doh

KeithD
15th January 2010, 09:52
Its a shame the little ones nationality has no bearing on the mothers prospects to live in the UK IMO... I guess another non speaking European took her place by default!:doh
As far as I know, in the US the mother would be given the right of entry to the US, and it seems a tad sad this is not the case in the UK. So in reality a 3yo British born kid can come and live in UK on his own, leaving mummy in the Phil!! :Erm: Yep, that sounds normal and safe to me!!!

pennybarry
15th January 2010, 10:49
is it possible for us to go there just to visit/tour for a week????????

Why not? If he can sponsor you and your baby, you have requirements, and he can support you, you can surely come here for a visit. We are all entitled to apply for visit visa and it depends upon the ECO if they will grant us visa. Have a try and tell him to send you all the supporting papers. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

IainBusby
15th January 2010, 14:05
I would say that unless you can find yourself another Brit, get married or engaged and get a visa to come to the UK yourself, the chances of getting your daughter to the UK are extremely slim.


Can you find me Ian?hehehe

If I ever tried to do that I think my wife would remove a very delicate part of my anatomy with a very sharp knife. :yikes::yikes::yikes:

joebloggs
15th January 2010, 14:27
Can you find me Ian?hehehe

for a mo , i thought you was my wife :yikes:, you look a lot like her, can't be 2 of her :cwm24:


As far as I know, in the US the mother would be given the right of entry to the US, and it seems a tad sad this is not the case in the UK. So in reality a 3yo British born kid can come and live in UK on his own, leaving mummy in the Phil!! :Erm: Yep, that sounds normal and safe to me!!!

there is a right for a parent to access a child in the UK - http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/visitandtransit/parentaccessrights

but the father would have to be looking after the child, you would need money and also more difficult for you to get, you need 'The candidate holds a valid UK entry clearance for entry in this ability' :NoNo:

student visa - cost you a bit.
or :Erm:

fred
15th January 2010, 16:21
As far as I know, in the US the mother would be given the right of entry to the US, and it seems a tad sad this is not the case in the UK. So in reality a 3yo British born kid can come and live in UK on his own, leaving mummy in the Phil!! :Erm: Yep, that sounds normal and safe to me!!!


So would an airline let A 3 year old British citizen on the plane to the UK without his mum??
Perhaps they would send a non English speaking Afghan to pick him/her up Heathrow..Pretty certain that would be in the childs best interests in the long run..:icon_lol:
.Its becoming too damn embarrassing giving advice to British people abroad.. I give up!!

newracy
16th January 2010, 12:24
what are the supporting papers?

newracy
16th January 2010, 13:06
i have already filled up my visa application form but i have not submitt it or paid it for an appointment but im scared that i am not yet preapred

the father will finance us in our visit we will be staying in a hotel for one week

but im scared that they wont let me have tourist visa

Can you help me guys?????????

what are the things i need to prepare and have???????



thanx again....

newracy
16th January 2010, 13:06
i have already filled up my visa application form but i have not submitt it or paid it for an appointment but im scared that i am not yet preapred

the father will finance us in our visit we will be staying in a hotel for one week

but im scared that they wont let me have tourist visa

Can you help me guys?????????

what are the things i need to prepare and have???????



thanx again....

newracy
16th January 2010, 13:28
I just want to help the father in case i can go in the UK i will work hard for my daughter future father will not be always around as he is getting older..

i believe whatever work will it be it'll be a nice salary as i am uneducated i cant get a nice job here in the philippines

newracy
16th January 2010, 13:28
I just want to help the father in case i can go in the UK i will work hard for my daughter future father will not be always around as he is getting older..

i believe whatever work will it be it'll be a nice salary as i am uneducated i cant get a nice job here in the philippines

pennybarry
16th January 2010, 17:34
i have already filled up my visa application form but i have not submitt it or paid it for an appointment but im scared that i am not yet preapred

the father will finance us in our visit we will be staying in a hotel for one week

but im scared that they wont let me have tourist visa

Can you help me guys?????????

what are the things i need to prepare and have???????



thanx again....

Tell him to send you the hotel bookings for a week, his sponsor letter, copy of his bank statement, your bank statement if you have. More supporting evidence that you will comeback.
You are not allowed to work here if your visa is tourist.:D
But then you are lucky if your ex husband will spend for a week hotel, tickets, your travel insurance, food and visa. That cost a fortune.:omg:
Fear is only in the mind. That words give me confidence!

KeithD
16th January 2010, 17:56
what are the supporting papers?
Papers that hold something up! :Erm:

newracy
18th January 2010, 12:40
Tell him to send you the hotel bookings for a week, his sponsor letter, copy of his bank statement, your bank statement if you have. More supporting evidence that you will comeback.
You are not allowed to work here if your visa is tourist.:D
But then you are lucky if your ex husband will spend for a week hotel, tickets, your travel insurance, food and visa. That cost a fortune.:omg:
Fear is only in the mind. That words give me confidence!

why will i show them the booking hotel already?what if they wont let me have a visa?is that really a requirement???

pennybarry
18th January 2010, 14:01
why will i show them the booking hotel already?what if they wont let me have a visa?is that really a requirement???

Your accommodation is very important and usually, it is stated in your sponsor letter.
But embassy may or may not ask your hotel reservation if your ex husband cannot accommodate you(as you said). Flight bookings is I think a requirement because I showed my bookings when I done my application. Some applicants paid their bookings and they wasted money for that because they paid their ticket already. But some airlines only accepts booking fees. That means, you only need to pay your booking, not the ticket. You also need to pay your travel insurance and that is really a requirement. The cost is depend upon the insurance company and how much requirement you need to be insured. I paid around P 9,000 for myself five years ago.

newracy
18th January 2010, 14:58
Your accommodation is very important and usually, it is stated in your sponsor letter.
But embassy may or may not ask your hotel reservation if your ex husband cannot accommodate you(as you said). Flight bookings is I think a requirement because I showed my bookings when I done my application. Some applicants paid their bookings and they wasted money for that because they paid their ticket already. But some airlines only accepts booking fees. That means, you only need to pay your booking, not the ticket. You also need to pay your travel insurance and that is really a requirement. The cost is depend upon the insurance company and how much requirement you need to be insured. I paid around P 9,000 for myself five years ago.

thanx penny but he is not my ex-husband we didnt marry he is just the father of my daughter...he said he is going to give me a sponsor letter saying he will finance me and he will let me go out of the UK after my trip....i dont think he will buy me already a ticket or booked me alreay the hotel he is soo very careful in using his money but he said he will give me a full suport on this trip...i am not sure on this visit visa but we agreed that we will just try..

thank you again

Are you in the UK now penny?where are you?

pennybarry
18th January 2010, 15:14
thanx penny but he is not my ex-husband we didnt marry he is just the father of my daughter...he said he is going to give me a sponsor letter saying he will finance me and he will let me go out of the UK after my trip....i dont think he will buy me already a ticket or booked me alreay the hotel he is soo very careful in using his money but he said he will give me a full suport on this trip...i am not sure on this visit visa but we agreed that we will just try..

thank you again

Are you in the UK now penny?where are you?
Oh sorry, I thought you were married before.

There's no really harm in trying and that is good for you that you found this site to know more about applying a visa.

I'm here in UK but I was granted visit visa twice before I got my spouse visa. That's why I shared you some tips.

If he is very careful to pay your booking flights then that will be a problem. But let others reply in your thread. Who knows there are some members who applied visit visa without flight bookings. Or click this UK embassy website in Pinas. You will know loads of info in their website.

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/

newracy
18th January 2010, 15:18
i am worrying i couldnt make it but i will try and listen to all your advises guys

thanks again and hope when i get in the UK i would have chance to meet some of you guys...will glad to meet you

newracy
2nd February 2010, 14:22
in Family visit VISA ....if i dont have any savings will they let me have one?i only have business but no savings yet

i will submit my application next week....see if i can have visa

newracy
19th February 2010, 13:06
i have been refused to visit UK as a tourist.....why is that???

IainBusby
19th February 2010, 15:28
i have been refused to visit UK as a tourist.....why is that???

Have they returned your documents yet, if so there should be a letter in there telling you the reasons the have refused you.
Iain.

keithAngel
19th February 2010, 20:21
They will have refused unless there is something we dont from any previous application be cause of lack of funds and/or they dont believe your ties to the Phillipines are strong enough to return at the end of your visit.

Reading this thread I can see why they may think that as you say what you want is the possibility to raise your child here.They probably think is as well

A one week visit could only really be so that the father can see his child and they probably would find this unusual if not suspicious as it would be more normal for the father to visit you cheaper to.

If the child has a UK passport and the reason for your visit had been to for example hand over custody that might not have been such a strange request but we dont know what you said on the application so hard to say more.

You can of course appeal the refusal and even reapply if the reasons to visit were to change :xxgrinning--00xx3:

darren-b
20th February 2010, 14:09
They will have refused unless there is something we dont from any previous application be cause of lack of funds and/or they dont believe your ties to the Phillipines are strong enough to return at the end of your visit.

Reading this thread I can see why they may think that as you say what you want is the possibility to raise your child here.They probably think is as well

A one week visit could only really be so that the father can see his child and they probably would find this unusual if not suspicious as it would be more normal for the father to visit you cheaper to.

If the child has a UK passport and the reason for your visit had been to for example hand over custody that might not have been such a strange request but we dont know what you said on the application so hard to say more.

You can of course appeal the refusal and even reapply if the reasons to visit were to change :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Didn't think you could appeal if a tourist visa was refused.

keithAngel
20th February 2010, 18:45
Didn't think you could appeal if a tourist visa was refused.

Yes your right I was thinking this a family visit for the child:xxgrinning--00xx3:

joebloggs
20th February 2010, 20:41
i have been refused to visit UK as a tourist.....why is that???

what do you want, live in the uk with your child or just a visit ?

newracy
22nd February 2010, 07:10
i just want a visit i know living there is soooooo expensive but the father of my child just want to spend a little time with her daughter atleast once a year especially during her birthday yes they said its suspicious that i might stay there bec my daughter holds a british passport she can stay there as long as she wants but NO we wont i have a business here in the philippines and im planning to have more business they said no need to appeal my application....

newracy
22nd February 2010, 07:27
the father said we will try to apply again bec he really wants to see his daughter last year he was here

darren-b
22nd February 2010, 12:55
the father said we will try to apply again bec he really wants to see his daughter last year he was here

Unfortunately in your current situation you are always likely to be refused.