BA Union Boss puts it about in sleazy Bangkok bar

[Dedworth]

The boss of the trade union behind the British Airways strike has admitted visiting a seedy go-go bar while on official business in Thailand.

Derek Simpson and fellow Unite official Terry Pye went to the Playskool bar in Bangkok where young women offer customers sex for £40.

Mr Simpson, 64, whose union’s membership includes thousands of women, including hundreds of female cabin crew at BA, drank beer in the bar while girls dressed only in bikinis danced on stage.

Women who work at Playskool are forced to earn a living by selling sex to customers. Their wages are cut substantially by the bar owners unless they sleep with at least nine clients every month.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261257/Derek-Simpson-Union-boss-BA-strikes-admits-visit-Bangkok-go-bar.html#ixzz0jbz3kQV0

Yet more Labour Sleaze - maybe the BA Unite Trolly Dollies should withhold their subs rather than seeing them go on funding this lecherous lumps paid for jaunts. Still if there's an expenses trough around one would expect a leech like him to bury his snout in it.

Pass the sick bag .................:vomit-smiley-011:

[bornatbirth]

i wish i had that job!, sleeping with 9 people every month :do_it:

[joebloggs]

i wish i had that job!, sleeping with 9 people every month :do_it:

i can try and arrange for you , dom and scouser keith for a 3 some :shehumper: bornatbirth :icon_lol:

[Dedworth]

i wish i had that job!, sleeping with 9 people every month :do_it:

All you have to do is join the brothers (and sisters) here then get elected onto the Central Committee and they will point you towards the trough

http://www.unitetheunion.com/default.aspx

[Arthur Little]

The boss of the trade union behind the British Airways strike has admitted visiting a seedy go-go bar while on official business in Thailand.

Derek Simpson and fellow Unite official Terry Pye went to the Playskool bar in Bangkok where young women offer customers sex for £40.

Mr Simpson, *64, whose union’s membership includes thousands of women, including hundreds of female cabin crew at BA, drank beer in the bar while girls dressed only in bikinis danced on stage.

Women who work at Playskool are forced to earn a living by selling sex to customers. Their wages are cut substantially by the bar owners unless they sleep with at least nine clients every month.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261257/Derek-Simpson-Union-boss-BA-strikes-admits-visit-Bangkok-go-bar.html#ixzz0jbz3kQV0

Yet more Labour Sleaze - maybe the BA Unite Trolly Dollies should withhold their subs rather than seeing them go on funding this lecherous lumps paid for jaunts. Still if there's an expenses trough around one would expect a leech like him to bury his snout in it.

Pass the sick bag .................:vomit-smiley-011:

Aye ... there's no fool like an *OLD fool! :olddude:

[triple5]

Big deal. Most people who visit Bangkok go to the girly bars, even if it's only for a quick peek. It's hardly a scandal. When in Rome and all that.

[KeithD]

£40 :omg: .... They seen him 'coming'...... :Erm: :cwm24: :laugher:

[Dedworth]

Big deal. Most people who visit Bangkok go to the girly bars, even if it's only for a quick peek. It's hardly a scandal. When in Rome and all that.

Most people aren't a high profile union boss, old enough to know better.

His union has opinions about a variety of issues including HIV amongst women in Africa - http://www.unitetheunion.com/resources/international/international_solidarity_work/africa_matters/africa_matters_project_and_mod/africa_matters_module/africa_matters_pilot_module/section_c_-_unit_two_issues_t/hiv_and_aids.aspx maybe he was doing a bit of research into similar issues in S E Asia ?

[triple5]

He went to a bar where girls dance around in bikinis :yikes: Scandalous :doh Not really much different to looking at page3 in my opinion. Like I said most people, men and women, have a peek if they're in bangkok, the way Ann widdecombe's going on you'd think the guy was a pimp.

‘I wonder how the women members of the union will react to this, given that Mr Simpson is supposed to uphold the dignity of women, not exploit them.’

:doh

[bornatbirth]

shes just jealous because he didnt go round hers instead :icon_lol:

[jimeve]

cheaper in Amsterdam plus you can go to a coffee shop legally :Cuckoo:

[IanB]

Playskool is not sleazy! And the girls don't always wear bikinis . . .

[jimeve]

Playskool is not sleazy! And the girls don't always wear bikinis . . .

What do they were then, nothing ? :erotic4:

[junior02]

The boss of the trade union behind the British Airways strike has admitted visiting a seedy go-go bar while on official business in Thailand.

Derek Simpson and fellow Unite official Terry Pye went to the Playskool bar in Bangkok where young women offer customers sex for £40.

Mr Simpson, 64, whose union’s membership includes thousands of women, including hundreds of female cabin crew at BA, drank beer in the bar while girls dressed only in bikinis danced on stage.

Women who work at Playskool are forced to earn a living by selling sex to customers. Their wages are cut substantially by the bar owners unless they sleep with at least nine clients every month.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261257/Derek-Simpson-Union-boss-BA-strikes-admits-visit-Bangkok-go-bar.html#ixzz0jbz3kQV0

Yet more Labour Sleaze - maybe the BA Unite Trolly Dollies should withhold their subs rather than seeing them go on funding this lecherous lumps paid for jaunts. Still if there's an expenses trough around one would expect a leech like him to bury his snout in it.

Pass the sick bag .................:vomit-smiley-011:

It would be rude not to go to a girly bar while your in bangkok woudnt it??:D.Not been to bangkok myself but sounds fun to me, a bit pricey thou £40:laugher:

[Jamesey]

I've got no problem with him visiting a girlie bar in Bangkok.

What I do have a problem with is militant, workshy unions holding the travelling public to ransom! :cwm23:

Derek Simpson, Bob Crowe and the rest of them should p*ss off to Bangkok and stay there! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Scouse]

So what you are saying is that the workers should put up with anything just so people going on holiday aren't inconvenienced.

If as the papers say that their average wage is about £25000 pa, then the greeedy one is Willie Walsh on about £500,000 pa plus bonuses.

If it wasn't for uinions you would still be working six days per week for poverty wages unless you were born into a family who had no need to work.

[Jamesey]

BA cabin crew are some of the best paid in the industry. If they don't like their jobs, they should just go and find a new one! We're in a recession. The rest of us have had to cope with pay cuts, redundancies and changes in working practices. Why should they be any different, just because their work has a direct impact on the public?

These type of militant unions are an anachronism. I agree that in the past, unions have had a huge positive impact on workers rights, workplace safety, fair wages, etc. They still have their place today, but not to the extent of calling strikes.

I have zero sympathy with the BA cabin crew.

[sparky]

It would be rude not to go to a girly bar while your in bangkok woudnt it??:D.Not been to bangkok myself but sounds fun to me, a bit pricey thou £40:laugher:

£40 =2000 baht- is actually quite cheap for Bkk gogo girl

[junior02]

£40 =2000 baht- is actually quite cheap for Bkk gogo girl

More expensive than angeles, but it was 7years ago i was ther last so maybe same price ther now.I herd from guys that have bin bangkok, they said the girls dont speak much english, which probably good thing cuz at least you dont get ear ake from them asking for more money for taxi ride home next morning etc etc..:laugher::laugher::laugher:

[joebloggs]

So what you are saying is that the workers should put up with anything just so people going on holiday aren't inconvenienced.

If as the papers say that their average wage is about £25000 pa, then the greeedy one is Willie Walsh on about £500,000 pa plus bonuses.

If it wasn't for uinions you would still be working six days per week for poverty wages unless you were born into a family who had no need to work.

:yikes: rare i agree with anything a scouser says :xxgrinning--00xx3:


BA cabin crew are some of the best paid in the industry. If they don't like their jobs, they should just go and find a new one! We're in a recession. The rest of us have had to cope with pay cuts, redundancies and changes in working practices. Why should they be any different, just because their work has a direct impact on the public?

These type of militant unions are an anachronism. I agree that in the past, unions have had a huge positive impact on workers rights, workplace safety, fair wages, etc. They still have their place today, but not to the extent of calling strikes.

I have zero sympathy with the BA cabin crew.

I've suffered from changes in work practices, been unfairly dismissed where i had to take the employer to a tribunal, and have been made redundant 3 times in the last 7yrs, when there is no union, your employer can treat you like :censored: and get away with it.

[sars_notd_virus]

The boss of the trade union behind the British Airways strike has admitted visiting a seedy go-go bar while on official business in Thailand.


Pass the sick bag .................:vomit-smiley-011:


Scarryyyyy:cwm25::cwm25:

[joebloggs]

dedworth have you ever been to a gogo bar :Erm: ... :rolleyes:

he was probably taken there, and didnt know he was going there :Erm:

you only know one side of the story :rolleyes: from the dailymail :icon_lol::icon_lol:, only thing thats its good for is :action-smiley-081:

[Dedworth]

BA cabin crew are some of the best paid in the industry. If they don't like their jobs, they should just go and find a new one! We're in a recession. The rest of us have had to cope with pay cuts, redundancies and changes in working practices. Why should they be any different, just because their work has a direct impact on the public?

These type of militant unions are an anachronism. I agree that in the past, unions have had a huge positive impact on workers rights, workplace safety, fair wages, etc. They still have their place today, but not to the extent of calling strikes.

I have zero sympathy with the BA cabin crew.

:iagree:

I've a mate who's a Qualified BA Aircraft Engineer at Heathrow and there is precious little sympathy there for these overpaid waiters and waitresses - some of the so called "Cabin Service Directors" are on £70000 a year responsible for serving a few First Class passengers and pressing the reset button on the entertainment system

[joebloggs]

:iagree:

I've a mate who's a Qualified BA Aircraft Engineer at Heathrow and there is precious little sympathy there for these overpaid waiters and waitresses - some of the so called "Cabin Service Directors" are on £70000 a year responsible for serving a few First Class passengers and pressing the reset button on the entertainment system


http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Cabin_Crew_430

Salary Location Date
£20,000 London 22-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,500 South East 31-January-10
£18,000 London 28-January-10
£22,000 East of England 22-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£30,000 London 18-October-09
£30,000 London 12-October-09

not many people getting 70k there :rolleyes:

[Dedworth]

dedworth have you ever been to a gogo bar :Erm: ... :rolleyes:

he was probably taken there, and didnt know he was going there :Erm:



Where on earth do you get the it was not my fault, he forced me to do it angle from ? :laugher:

I've been to a few - not forced all of my own free will:Yippeee:

[Dedworth]

http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Cabin_Crew_430

Salary Location Date
£20,000 London 22-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,000 London 11-February-10
£18,500 South East 31-January-10
£18,000 London 28-January-10
£22,000 East of England 22-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£20,000 London 4-January-10
£30,000 London 18-October-09
£30,000 London 12-October-09

not many people getting 70k there :rolleyes:

Not many CSD wages quoted :Erm:. As inferred by Jamesey if it is such a crap number why don't they jack it in and pitch up at Virgin or Sleazy Jet ?

[joebloggs]

DEDWORTH BEEN TO GOGO BARS

who cares if you or any union leaders have been to a gogo bar :NoNo:

so i take it you've never been a union member :rolleyes:

i haven't, you see every place i've worked at didn't have a union, maybe if they did workers wouldn't be treated like :censored: sometimes.

of course there are :censored: union leaders, and sometimes they are wrong, but if it wasn't for the union and the labour party , many people would be working for :censored:

you must have heard of an 1890ish parody on what Life was Like on a Mountain Railway, ca. 1870 called Miner's Lifeguard

Miner's life is like a sailor's.
'Board a ship to cross the waves.
Ev'ry day his life's in danger,
Still he ventures being brave.
Watch the rocks, they're falling daily.
Careless miners always fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

cho: Union miners stand together,
Heed no operator's tale,
Keep your hand upon the dollar,
And your eye upon the scale.

Soon this trouble will be ended,
Union men will have their rights.
After many years of bondage
Digging days and digging nights;
Then by honest weight we labor
Union workers never fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

Let no union man be weakened
By newspapers' false reports,
Be like sailors on the ocean
Trusting in their safe lifeboats.
Let your lifeboat be Jehovah
Those who trust Him never fail.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

You've been docked and docked, my boys,
You've been loading two to one;
What have you to show for working
Since this mining has begun?
Overalls and cans for rockers,
In your shanties, sleep on rails.
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

In conclusion, bear in memory,
Keep the password in your mind:
God provides for every nation
When in union they combine.
Stand like men and linked together,
Victory for you'll prevail,
Keep your hand upon the dollar
And your eye upon the scale.

pitty more than 100 yrs later much hasn't changed for some workers :NoNo:

[Arthur Little]

If as the papers say that their average wage is about £25000 pa, then the greeedy one is Willie Walsh on about £500,000 pa plus bonuses.

£25,000 pa is hardly commensurate with being on "the breadline" ... if I'D ever been on 25 grand a year, I would've been :laugher: all the way to the bank!

[Dedworth]

DEDWORTH BEEN TO GOGO BARS

who cares if you or any union leaders have been to a gogo bar :NoNo:




I do because this fella proves himself to be a typical Labour hypocrite - all "Wimmins Rites" when he's gobbing off at the TUC Congress, but "how much for long time" when he's getting gushed up in the Ping Pong Banana Club.

These Cabin Crew are so exploited and underpaid that many of them aren't bothering to strike.

[joebloggs]

I do because this fella proves himself to be a typical Labour hypocrite - all "Wimmins Rites" when he's gobbing off at the TUC Congress, but "how much for long time" when he's getting gushed up in the Ping Pong Banana Club.

These Cabin Crew are so exploited and underpaid that many of them aren't bothering to strike.

when you've got a family to feed, and your'e not a member of a union, your on your own, you put up with it or you go, thats your choice, not much of a choice when you've got bills to pay and a family to feed thou...

don't tell me dedworth employers dont rip employees off ? , if you think that your on another planet :rolleyes:

i've seen the abuse, i was a victim of it, i've had to take 2 employers to tribunals to get the wages i was owed. :NoNo:

[Dedworth]

when you've got a family to feed, and your'e not a member of a union, your on your own, you put up with it or you go, thats your choice, not much of a choice when you've got bills to pay and a family to feed thou...

don't tell me dedworth employers dont rip employees off ? , if you think that your on another planet :rolleyes:

i've seen the abuse, i was a victim of it, i've had to take 2 employers to tribunals to get the wages i was owed. :NoNo:

Accepted it has and does go on but I'm afraid this thread has strayed away from what I intended which is the blatant hypocrisy and I'm Allright Jack attitude of Simpson & Pye - a world away from the day to day low pay drudgery of some of their members (except if you are a BA Cabin Crew lording it in 5 star hotels on bloated allowances)

[joebloggs]

i was talking about your anti labour/union views...

i take it you've never had to take an employer to a tribunal, or you have never seen or been victimised by an employer ?

i've witnessed it recently, someone i worked with was told they were no longer needed because there wasn't much work, and i later found out the real reason was that he had taken a couple of days off a few times to care for his sick 5yr old son :NoNo:

many years ago, my dad use to go to work even when he was ill, one day he complained of chest pains, but because of the type of person he was he went to work, my mom told him to stay at home but he wouldn't, he died of a heart attack the next day, days later the union had a collection for my mom, she had 3 young kids to take care of, it was a lot of money, what did the employer give after many years service... nothing..

where i work now, i've had no pay rise for 2 years, yes if i don't like it i can leave :action-smiley-081:

[Gavanddal]

BA cabin crew are some of the best paid in the industry. If they don't like their jobs, they should just go and find a new one! We're in a recession. The rest of us have had to cope with pay cuts, redundancies and changes in working practices. Why should they be any different, just because their work has a direct impact on the public?

These type of militant unions are an anachronism. I agree that in the past, unions have had a huge positive impact on workers rights, workplace safety, fair wages, etc. They still have their place today, but not to the extent of calling strikes.

I have zero sympathy with the BA cabin crew.

I agree, if you don't like your job then get another one. I have no time for unions. I remember the steel strike when flying pickets from Sheffield came down to Sheerness intimidating the workers at Sheerness Steel (who were happy in their jobs) to go on strike in sympathy and thus lose money and threaten their own jobs.
BA is in enough financial trouble due to the recession, this strike is likely to finish them off then the union will be to blame for losing all their members their jobs!

[joebloggs]

I agree, if you don't like your job then get another one. I have no time for unions.

BA is in enough financial trouble due to the recession, this strike is likely to finish them off then the union will be to blame for losing all their members their jobs!

so easy to 'just get another job' :rolleyes: why should anyone because your employer starts making changes :Erm:

BA IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE :icon_lol:

British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh is prepared to use the airline's £2bn cash mountain to crush the strike by cabin crew due to start this week

Walsh said: 'At the end of the last quarter we had reserves of over £2bn. I hope it does not come to it, but we are prepared for this strike and can afford it.'

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/markets/article.html?in_article_id=501054&in_page_id=3

once in the phils, outside a mall, a saw some workers on strike , protesting about the little money they got paid, no time for unions hey :NoNo:

2 sides to every story... and both BA and the UNITE need their heads banging together :cwm3: