England - The Autopsy

[KeithD]

What a tournament :Cuckoo: .... Struggled the first game, utter drivel the 2nd, scraped through the third.... just about clawing our way out of the Group stage .... and straight into the hands of the Hun who were all setup for a massacre of Paschendale proportions :NEW4:

So what went wrong with some of the best players in the world? Was it the players, the manager, the fact they couldn't :shehumper: their wives (their own Terry :mad:).

Maybe it's the fact that some of the players look better than they are in Club football as they are surrounded by professional players from other countries, although that isn't really the case .... is it? :Erm:

The players just never seemed to be really interested apart from one match, and we only just won that one by 1-0 :doh

So it's the players who need to take most of the blame as it is actually their job to score ... that may surprise some folk who think it's all the managers job but under the rules of football, unless he's a player/manager and is in the first 11, he can't score for them :cwm24:

Talking of the manager though, yet another has failed us. £6M a year ... and for what? A part-time job? Easy money if you can get it, but even a comatose patient wouldn't have managed the players any worse :omg:

It was like watching the Sven/McClown period all again, same players, same players out of position (why oh why do they do that? :NoNo:). Same useless tactics, and slow to change when things are not going right. In fact he reminded me of Benitez, so I nearly launched the TV into orbit :furious3: .... renegotiated his contract before the distaste.

So now I come to the goal that never was ..... I hope Slap Bladder (I can never spell the FIFA's chief muppet) realized that a multi-Billion $$$ industry, watched by 100's Millions of people needs to be a little less error prone. We already have goal line technology, the TV companies supplied it so we all could see within seconds it was a goal, and it appears on;y one person in the whole of the professional football game is against using technology.... you guessed it.... Self Blubber :voodoo:

And it wasn't just that game, two in one day. Mexico v Argentina turned into a farce when a goal that was offside TWICE, was given as a goal, and shown to every Tom, Dick & Lesbian in the ground. So the crowd, managers, players, even the officials knew it wasn't a goal, but it still stood. :1056158225: .... and yet the replay was over within 15 seconds ... the hassle with the officials took 2-3 minutes to sort out.

The argument that technology would slow a game is a dead duck. You simply use it for goal/penalty decisions. In fact every time a goal is scored, they check was it offside, did a foul take place, did it cross the line? All that can be done in 10-15 seconds. It takes longer to kick-off.

So after those two debacles you could clearly see it completely changed both games, and along with the embarrassment of the French getting in something needs to be done before the next tournament starts in 2 years.

... and finally... how the :censored: do we change those at the top of FIFA? It reminds me of the 'all boys together' of the old Jockey Club we got rid of last century.

[les_taxi]

Lots of good points here Keith,good thread :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[KeithD]

Lots of good points here Keith,good thread :xxgrinning--00xx3:

*cough* R *cough* E *cough* P *cough* :rolleyes:

[les_taxi]

*cough* R *cough* E *cough* P *cough* :rolleyes:

Well funny you should mention it as I rated your post but could not remember how to give you rep,I held cursor over rep bit but nothing happened!

Found it little blue star :)

[bornatbirth]

the players dont care, sadly they're more concerned with their clubs than there country, just look at their smiles after the game, they couldnt give a :censored:

just look at the other teams, playing for their country in the world cup it means everything to them!!!

why is gerrard playing as a left winger :Cuckoo:

ghana are in the quarters :Erm: if england finished top they would be there :doh

where was dedworths bumcum JT in the game, maybe thinking about the next time hes going to :do_it: somebody elses wife, apparently when hes playing he can switch everything off and just concentrate on the game :crazy:

[Dedworth]

the players dont care, sadly they're more concerned with their clubs than there country, just look at their smiles after the game, they couldnt give a :censored:

just look at the other teams, playing for their country in the world cup it means everything to them!!!

why is gerrard playing as a left winger :Cuckoo:

ghana are in the quarters :Erm: if england finished top they would be there :doh

where was dedworths bumcum JT in the game, maybe thinking about the next time hes going to :do_it: somebody elses wife, apparently when hes playing he can switch everything off and just concentrate on the game :crazy:

Terry was focused during the 4 games, who kept Slovenia out the other day ? He was playing out of his normal club position and having to hand hold the cripples, OAP's and out of form players Crapello put alongside him. Sicknote Rio never even made a competitive match and I don't expect ever again to hear the words "World Class" used with the name Rooney

[bornatbirth]

Terry was focused during the 4 games, who kept Slovenia out the other day ? He was playing out of his normal club position and having to hand hold the cripples, OAP's and out of form players Crapello put alongside him. Sicknote Rio never even made a competitive match and I don't expect ever again to hear the words "World Class" used with the name Rooney

:icon_lol: did he have a good game or not?

i thought he played as centre back, klose must of been laughing when he ran into his space and he was elsewhere!!

[les_taxi]

I just saw Cole and Hesky laughing and joking without a care in the world:censored:

Care to reimburse me for loss of earnings,new shirt,hangovers and general dissapointment while you uncaring ***** jump back in your ferrairi's.

I don't think they even care about the fans and probably would not even follow the team if they were not footballers (and thats bloody debatable):cwm23:

[jimeve]

Thats why I stopped going to football games, over paid shisters.
Too many players from abroad, said this before and iam saying again.

[les_taxi]

Thats why I stopped going to football games, over paid shisters.
Too many players from abroad, said this before and iam saying again.

Of course you are right but football is in my blood and I will never stop watching it even tho I don't like many of the bad things about the game.

I think what we are forgetting is that the current England team is not a patch on the 1990/96 team,it's not a "golden generation " at all.

[stevie c]

england were losing so needed goals but what does capello do takes of defoe & replaces him with heskey:doh who is never going to score a goal all the time he has a hole in his xxxx why not bring crouch on whose goalscoring ratio for england is superb:crazy:

[jimeve]

Of course you are right but football is in my blood and I will never stop watching it even tho I don't like many of the bad things about the game.

I think what we are forgetting is that the current England team is not a patch on the 1990/96 team,it's not a "golden generation " at all.

Les, football is in my blood too, my Father played for Hibs way back in the fortys, he wanted me and brother to play also. but disapointed him. also my brother-in-law played for Bolton Wanderers. My father stoped going to matches long time ago. in the early 70's when all the thugs started.:Brick:

[stevewool]

come on lads its only a game , best side won all the games too, might as well go in guns blazzing now, to me they all should be made to sing our national antham out load and be proud to sing it too most of them dont know it or are stuck up there own( look at me i am a superstar) backsides, there that feels better :icon_lol::icon_lol:

[laurel]

Alan Shearer made a point that may turn out to have some merit........he reckons that there may be probs behind the scenes. Again its all about opinions , and with respect to all JT fans it would not surprise me if he was an unstable influence ....all said and done if the players are not happy with Capello then sorry for me thats just tough!!!..........he's the boss and what he says goes, if it upsets someone, then get real.....its an honour to play for your country, moaning and sulking about things just shows immaturity.
Today it was 28 degrees where i was working (as a plasterer), but i still had to do do the job right i couldnt complain that it was too hot so sorry i gave you a bad job..........just had to work a bit harder

[stevewool]

i am after a plasterer

[Alan]

Good post Laurel! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

[les_taxi]

Les, football is in my blood too, my Father played for Hibs way back in the fortys, he wanted me and brother to play also. but disapointed him. also my brother-in-law played for Bolton Wanderers. My father stoped going to matches long time ago. in the early 70's when all the thugs started.:Brick:

This is not an arguament I'm just stating that I will always love football and will always watch it.
Enjoying Brazil right now,as far as England go I'm over it as there a far better teams to watch.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[laurel]

whoever gave me the rep thanks:)

[KeithD]

One thing I don't here the media talking about that much (maybe it's racist :doh), but we should all understand it here, and that is the fact that our fellow Filipina's can easily, and often at the start of a relationship, take the wrong context of what we are trying to say (resulting in many a tampo :xxaction-smiley-047) .... and yet the speak & understand very good English .... yet with Crapello he has trouble putting a sentence together ... so how the hell does he get something across to the players? :Erm:

[stevewool]

how do i get skype onto here , going off the subject:icon_lol:

[Alan]

One thing I don't here the media talking about that much (maybe it's racist :doh), but we should all understand it here, and that is the fact that our fellow Filipina's can easily, and often at the start of a relationship, take the wrong context of what we are trying to say (resulting in many a tampo :xxaction-smiley-047) .... and yet the speak & understand very good English .... yet with Crapello he has trouble putting a sentence together ... so how the hell does he get something across to the players? :Erm:

Is a simple a bossa Keif. Isa gooda teem who a plays a dis a futball and a we play good a with a Germany and we is a unlucky cos we can a win dis a Worl coop!! So a pleesa you stop a takin pees from a mee cos ifa you don I stay Englan manher for long a time.

Fabulus Craphole!

[aromulus]

Is a simple a bossa Keif. Isa gooda teem who a plays a dis a futball and a we play good a with a Germany and we is a unlucky cos we can a win dis a Worl coop!! So a pleesa you stop a takin pees from a mee cos ifa you don I stay Englan manher for long a time.

Fabulus Craphole!

Heh,wiseguy...yuwannawakeupwithahorseheadinyourbed...???:Erm:

[Alan]

Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!! I knew I'd get grief from Dom about that. Good job he's a great, understanding bloke who, incidentally, has fabulous German brandy! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

[jimeve]

Heh,wiseguy...yuwannawakeupwithahorseheadinyourbed...???:Erm:

dees ezz to funny :icon_lol:

[aromulus]

dees ezz to funny :icon_lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ff46b58Hk

[KeithD]

Is a simple a bossa Keif. Isa gooda teem who a plays a dis a futball and a we play good a with a Germany and we is a unlucky cos we can a win dis a Worl coop!! So a pleesa you stop a takin pees from a mee cos ifa you don I stay Englan manher for long a time.

Fabulus Craphole!
My translator just crashed :bigcry: .... hopefully she'll have the car repaired soon :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[fred]

We probably still would have lost but a 2-2 second half score could have changed the rest of the game..


where i was working (as a plasterer), but i still had to do do the job right

Look at the size of that WAD!!!!
Check the Farrari!!
BOSH BOSH....LOADS OF DOSH!!


Today it was 28 degrees


We've been rendering hollow blocks in 43c for the last 3 months!!
Plasterers today eh! Dont know they were born..
Easy life!!

[laurel]

We probably still would have lost but a 2-2 second half score could have changed the rest of the game..



Look at the size of that WAD!!!!
Check the Farrari!!
BOSH BOSH....LOADS OF DOSH!!




We've been rendering hollow blocks in 43c for the last 3 months!!
Plasterers today eh! Dont know they were born..
Easy life!!



Yeah loadsamoney eh Fred:).....not anymore im afraid

[fred]

Yeah loadsamoney eh Fred:).....not anymore im afraid

Just joking Laurel!!
Like you say...Those days are well and truly over..
(unless you are a premier footballer)