PNoy doesn’t mind if you don’t go into college - State abandonment of education conti

[Win2Win]

Here’s my first major disappointment over President Noynoy Aquino, in his 2011 budget message: Quality education at all levels is our priority. This includes vocational training so that those who cannot pursue higher education, either by choice or by circumstance, can find a dignified livelihood. Isn’t it self-contradictory? He says that quality education at all [...]


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Here’s my first major disappointment over President Noynoy Aquino, in his 2011 budget message (http://www.gov.ph/2010/08/24/president-aquinos-2011-budget-message/):


Quality education at all levels is our priority. This includes vocational training so that those who cannot pursue higher education, either by choice or by circumstance, can find a dignified livelihood.

Isn’t it self-contradictory? He says that quality education at all levels is the government’s priority on one hand and on the other he says that if you cannot afford to go to college, hopefully you’ll get a decent job.

Earth to PNoy! A vast majority of the Filipino youth do want to go into college.

But alas, he finally gets honest later on in his message:


We allocated P23.4 billion to 112 State Universities and Colleges (SUCs) in 2011. This is 1.7 percent lower than the P23.8 billion budget for 2010. We are gradually reducing the subsidy to SUCs to push them toward becoming self-sufficient and financially independent, given their ability to raise their income and to utilize it for their programs and projects.

Now that’s really encouraging isn’t it? Ganito pala sa “daang matuwid.”

But who could blame PNoy? He has a warped and distorted view of why young Filipinos don’t go into college:


Almost half of our high school graduates seek employment rather than pursue higher studies.

Wrong Mr President! High school graduates are forced to seek employment because they cannot afford to go into private universities and colleges. Even State colleges and universities are becoming more inaccessible because tuition fees are increasing yearly because of your policy of state abandonment of education.

It seems that PNoy has forgotten that a considerable portion of the votes he obtained in the May 2010 elections came from the Filipino youth, who hoped that by supporting he will help solve their education woes. The ever increasing costs of higher education on top of the list.


So much for making quality education at all levels a priority of your administration.
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[sars_notd_virus]

Wrong Mr President! High school graduates are forced to seek employment because they cannot afford to go into private universities and colleges. Even State colleges and universities are becoming more inaccessible because tuition fees are increasing yearly because of your policy of state abandonment of education.








This is correct Mr President should build more public universities in the Philippines and have it free for the students who has a dream and who wants education

[raynaputi]

i agree..lots of Filipino youth still want to go to college but can't do so because they can't afford it..these kids still value education..why not give them scholarships for them to continue pursuing their dreams that would make their lives in a better position someday, instead of just giving them alternatives of vocational studies that would somehow mean "this is all i can get so i'm not allowed to dream big or want more in the future".

[Arthur Little]

Changed days!! :rolleyes: In MY youth, only those who intended to enter one of the professions ... Medicine, Law, Clergy, Teaching, &c. ... went to University. [I might add, I wasn't one of them ... would LIKE to've been, but ... never had the "brains"!! :NoNo:]. At that time ... circa early 1960s ... Scotland, for example, had only 4 such establishments - NOWADAYS, Colleges and other Higher Educational Institutions are sprouting-up all over the place. Why IS this?

Well, as I see it, there simply aren't enough jobs to go round! :cwm24: Gone is the need for human input ... which, over the course of the past half century, has given way to relentless advances in technology. Sad :bigcry: but true. Employers these days no longer place the same emphasis on their office staff having a good grounding in basic skills that used to be referred to as the "3 R's" ... pronounced, Reading, (W)riting & (A)rithmetic ... all that seems to matter is that their staff have the ability to operate a computer. And the end result allows the brain to stagnate ... because all this automation in the workplace does away with employees' need to THINK to enable them to carry out their jobs effectively and efficiently.

All THIS, in turn, leads to soaring unemployment figures - hence the reason for setting up more and more colleges to deal with the ever-increasing number of school-leavers unable to find jobs. I don't know how well I've tried to explain myself here. But I hope it makes some sense to those who care to :ReadIt:!

[Arthur Little]

Of course, I'm aware this thread is based on the situation as it IS in the Philippines :rolleyes: ... but, equally, it could apply ANYWHERE, and I'M only "qualified" to comment on how I see it from the perspective of [being] a former office worker in the United Kingdom.

Having said that, it seems that advanced technology even encroaches on the work once carried out by skilled tradesmen ... such as motor mechanics. Whenever a car is put into a garage workshop, for instance, I believe the modern practice entails "hooking" the vehicle up to an appropriate computerised device :spit: which automatically pinpoints faulty engine components that need to be either repaired or replaced.

Similarly, expensive printed circuits have, in virtually all cases, long superseded television valves and the like - eliminating even the remotest possibility of obtaining spare parts that are now practically obsolete. Progress, eh ... ? :doh

[malditako]

goverment still giving scholarship up to college but in order for someone to get one you need to prove to them u deserve it....meaning u need the brain (inteligence) and diligence...as of vocational studies ( like two years course degree) in my own point of view..doesn't mean u cannot think big. I dont believe that entering uni or college is the only way for u to be able to achieve something...

[raynaputi]

goverment still giving scholarship up to college but in order for someone to get one you need to prove to them u deserve it....meaning u need the brain (inteligence) and diligence...as of vocational studies ( like two years course degree) in my own point of view..doesn't mean u cannot think big. I dont believe that entering uni or college is the only way for u to be able to achieve something...

I agree with you..but at the current situation, at the earliest stage of a child's education here in the Philippines, most of the families which are not wealthy enough in money just think "We can't afford giving our children better education so as long as they know how to read and write, and they can work in due time it's fine". That's because the government is not supporting enough the value of education. Yes, being a college graduate is not a guarantee they will have better lives. But let's face it, lots of companies still values the part that someone is a degree holder, and they would always have one step ahead to these great opportunities. I don't deny that vocational studies really helps most of these kids who don't have money...having vocational studies is one solution to the problem...but it shouldn't be the only solution...

Also, not all scholarships are based on the intelligence of the kids..some organizations, companies, or even just groups of people give scholarships to kids, whether they are intelligent or not, as long as they have the drive for quality education and pursuing their dreams. One example is a local radio station here in Manila which offers scholarships to college wannabes who belong to less fortunate families. It doesn't say "you need to be intelligent or with high grades to qualify" in their criteria.

[malditako]

we need some balance in a society...we dont need all to finish uni or college...what will happen to a society if all has a degree and all looking for a white colar job..who will work in the factory, etc..who will get a blue colar job then...i think what the goverment needs to do is to set a standard salary both for white and blue colar job...labor code should be revise.

[somebody]

we need some balance in a society...we dont need all to finish uni or college...what will happen to a society if all has a degree and all looking for a white colar job..who will work in the factory, etc..who will get a blue colar job then...i think what the goverment needs to do is to set a standard salary both for white and blue colar job...labor code should be revise.

Spot on and also many senior staff/Managers work their way up. Traditional Degrees are not for all. Who is going to support these students for the 3 or 4 years it takes?

The UK has a big issue with to many people who can write an amazing essay and pass exams but has little experience in the industry, does not know how the various departments or companies in the field of business work.

Teachers have way to much influence in this field just because a levels and degree was good for them does not always means its perfect for others.

Look at many companies and many of the staff in key positions and senior positions have worked their way up. The experience these people gains is huge. Most mange to pick up skills as they go or get on the job training.

Does Phill have plenty of facilities to educate the existing workforce. Evening classes, home study in the vein of open university? This maybe of more use to many as they progress up the ladder when they have a clearer idea of what skills they need to learn.

As mentioned in another thread today I see a huge problem where Degree students due to the amount of time they spend getting the qualification are not very malleable, not open to new ideas, sometimes think they are cleverer than those who are charged with training them in their job role. Not humble enough to learn various roles in the work place.

Simply flooding the job market with people with degrees will mean wages will drop in some fields and others will find themselves having waste four years.

[malditako]

Spot on and also many senior staff/Managers work their way up. Traditional Degrees are not for all. Who is going to support these students for the 3 or 4 years it takes?

The UK has a big issue with to many people who can write an amazing essay and pass exams but has little experience in the industry, does not know how the various departments or companies in the field of business work.

Teachers have way to much influence in this field just because a levels and degree was good for them does not always means its perfect for others.

Look at many companies and many of the staff in key positions and senior positions have worked their way up. The experience these people gains is huge. Most mange to pick up skills as they go or get on the job training.

Does Phill have plenty of facilities to educate the existing workforce. Evening classes, home study in the vein of open university? This maybe of more use to many as they progress up the ladder when they have a clearer idea of what skills they need to learn.

As mentioned in another thread today I see a huge problem where Degree students due to the amount of time they spend getting the qualification are not very malleable, not open to new ideas, sometimes think they are cleverer than those who are charged with training them in their job role. Not humble enough to learn various roles in the work place.

Simply flooding the job market with people with degrees will mean wages will drop in some fields and others will find themselves having waste four years.

so true...proper traning, and taugh experience is best that just reading books...i have encoutered bosses at work who at times ask the staff about work and all that ( meaning not knowlegdeable about the work)...as they was positioned in ladder only b'coz they achieved higher education than the others, (great school and good grades) which i find it unfair to others who have contirbuted much in the company.

sometimes u dont need to be good just to get a job..as they say its not ur skills that matters but its who u know inside the company...well thats the phils :)