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\\\\ToNy////
11th September 2010, 17:05
hello all, an update on my situation, i found a new job in bridgenorth not far from the river, not a great job and it realy hurts my shoulders so i have to take nurofen everyday to ease the pain alittle.
in december i want my wife to come here for 2 or 3 months, so is it a family visit visa that she will need,
she will stay here at moms house or at her brothers house, i think that her comming here for a while will help when it comes to applying for a spouse visa,
her bro will help us with paperwork ect when we know what we will need,
all i know so far is that the family visit visa is about £70, how long is the proccessing ect,
thanks and advance:)

stevewool
11th September 2010, 18:58
hi tony congrats for finding the work , what is it you are doing not poaching fish i hope :icon_lol::icon_lol:, not to sure on what you need for the family visa thinging but soon will be telling you:)

\\\\ToNy////
11th September 2010, 19:11
:D thanks steve, i make packageing moulds out of expanding foam, gives me a banging headache so i try to hold my breath when exposed, but usualy on thursday i assemble the cases for the motors, the company is calles filtermist, the agency said theres a weeks work for me there but ive been there 3 weeks now, i been very close to quiting because of the shoulder pain, but the nurofen makes it alittle better,
poached fish mmmmm im hungry now:)

joebloggs
11th September 2010, 21:33
applying for a family visit visa for your spouse could increase the risk of refusal for the visa, as they could well use the standard excuse they dont believe your wife will go back to the phils :NoNo:

family visit visa processing time, could be up to a few weeks, its hard to say.

Sim11UK
12th September 2010, 06:59
applying for a family visit visa for your spouse could increase the risk of refusal for the visa, as they could well use the standard excuse they dont believe your wife will go back to the phils :NoNo:

family visit visa processing time, could be up to a few weeks, its hard to say.

Surely though if they can prove a genuine relationship & absolutely prove they will comply & she will return, they stand a chance...In a genuine case, who would mess up the chance of getting a spouse visa later?...But I know it's proving it? :furious3:

We thought of doing the same.

Tony we're in a similar position to you, good luck with it. :)

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 08:11
could increase sim,I'm not saying it will be refused,just want you to be aware, who knows with a visit visa anyway, because she would be entering on the wrong type of visa, if she is your wife and you live in the uk, why is she not applying for a settlement visa ?, it would be different if you lived outside the uk with your wife and wanted to visit, but trying to get a family visit visa for your wife and your married and live in the UK :Erm:

how can you prove she will go back ? :D, i think they are worried because your married instead of applying for a settlement visa with entry clearance (£600+) that your wife will apply for a family visit visa (£75??) and when in the uk apply for FLR(M) at £475) robbing them of £50 :laugher:

Sim11UK
12th September 2010, 08:51
Yes it's complicated Joe...but who's to say you are going to settle in UK?...clutching at straws I know, but there you go???

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 09:31
well sim your living and working in the uk, and you're going to apply for a visit visa for your wife, WHY ! what's up with the spouse visa :Erm:

but at around £70 for the visa, it could be worth the risk, but like i said i don't think your chances are great and i hope you both prove me wrong :xxgrinning--00xx3:

stevewool
12th September 2010, 09:38
is it because of the cost for a spouse visa, emma and i are going to be applying for the flr very soon and the cost is over £700 , and when you look at the foams its just like the fiancee visa foams all over again, and lets face it what do you get from the goverment in return

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 10:03
is it because of the cost for a spouse visa, emma and i are going to be applying for the flr very soon and the cost is over £700 , and when you look at the foams its just like the fiancee visa foams all over again, and lets face it what do you get from the goverment in return

i got a cheque from the taxman the other day for £500+ for paying too much tax 2yrs ago :Jump::xxgrinning--00xx3:

settlement visa is the same cost for a spouse or a fiancée steve
but if your your misses comes on a fiancée visa once wed you need to apply for FLR(m) granted for 2yrs then ILR, while on a spouse visa (granted for 27 months) she could apply for ILR after shes been in the UK nearly 2yrs, saving you applying for FLR(m) £475 by post and i think that increases soon !.

it only cost like £250 to process a visa app, yet they charge £475-£840 for a visa :REGamblMoney01HL1:

it cost me more than £4,000 for visa's for the wife and kids to get citizenship :cwm23:

\\\\ToNy////
12th September 2010, 10:12
thanks guys, she wont be applying for a spouse visa until she gets back to the phils, so they shouldnt be worried about her staying here in the uk for ever on a family visit visa, and cant apply for a spouse visa yet because its too early and we need to visit eachother more,
so whats the correct way to be, accepted for a spouse visa, am i suposed to keep gong there, i was going to go there for xmas for a week but i thought it would be best if she comes here for a while, dont they understand that it is best that she comes here to see if she will like it here because this is where we will live for ever,
i didnt need a visa to go there for 21 days, cant she come here for 21 days without a visa and extend it to 38 days like what i did when i was in the phils,
getting a family fisit visa then a spouse visa is more money for them, they should be happy with that,
anyway thanks guys, visas are complicated things so keep the posts comming, i think im going to need all the help i can get

stevewool
12th September 2010, 10:16
we all talk of cost but we have to realy , we have to make sure we can support our new wives children and ourselves all the time , its just a shame that in what we pay the goverment , well it just dont seem right, you are a lucky man geting a tax return , but into one hand and out the other they say , end of the day we all know the cost before we go down that road so a little moan is ok but my life has increased 100% for the better since emma has been here and i would not change a thing really

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 10:39
we all talk of cost but we have to realy , we have to make sure we can support our new wives children and ourselves all the time , its just a shame that in what we pay the goverment , well it just dont seem right, you are a lucky man geting a tax return , but into one hand and out the other they say , end of the day we all know the cost before we go down that road so a little moan is ok but my life has increased 100% for the better since emma has been here and i would not change a thing really

my wife supports me now :icon_lol:, your right about the gov , them making a profit out of what should be your legal right to be with your wife and family, remember Europeans living in the UK the family permit is free for them, if they can and have to do it for nothing for them, then why cant they do it for us brits ? :cwm23:

as for the cheque from the tax man , after many years of working i think this is only the second one :cwm24:

most people are not aware of the cost or the visa process b4 you start to get serious with your non European partner, i'm sure for some it has caused problems in their relationship and a breka up in some cases.. ( remember some people had to wait more than 4 months after applying for a settlement visa not long ago to get the result of their app) :NoNo:

stevewool
12th September 2010, 10:50
well i hope i have gone into our future with both eyes open , i set aside so much money for the visa the wedding and support for emma too, and so far so good , like i have said we applied for the fianccee route so the next is the wedding , then flr and hopefuly if accepted emma could work then and then the next is 2 years so not looking at that just yet , more to think about before then like wedding dress and shoes and whos coming :), i am a very happy person and i hope emma is too , seeing her smile and calling the house were we live home does sound good coming from emma too, a silly thing yes but its the silly little things that count :xxgrinning--00xx3:

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 10:55
:xxgrinning--00xx3: goodluck steve, but i'm sure you will not need it from me :D
once your misses is here in the uk, getting any other type of extension should be just a formality, as most of the hard work you've already done getting here in the UK :rolleyes:

stevewool
12th September 2010, 11:00
thanks , we all need someone to listern sometimes not luck , just hope that i may have many many years with emma :icon_lol::icon_lol:

RickyR
12th September 2010, 11:22
If its an option, I would recommend that before you apply for the visa you purchase, using a credit card, a FULLY REFUNDABLE RETURN ticket directly from the airline (Singapore Airlines or KLM, as they refund within 3 days of a refund request). Your wife can present this when she applies for the visa as proof that she will return. Then after you have the visa, cancel the ticket and purchase a cheap ticket.
Alternatively, some agents will prebook tickets for you, that are valid for around two weeks before they need to be paid for, this could also be used as proof.

Dedworth
12th September 2010, 13:58
my wife supports me now :icon_lol:, your right about the gov , them making a profit out of what should be your legal right to be with your wife and family, remember Europeans living in the UK the family permit is free for them, if they can and have to do it for nothing for them, then why cant they do it for us brits ? :cwm23:



Must be some cast iron reason why they can do this otherwise Mrs Cherie Blair would have embarked by now on a publicly funded Human Rights action

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 17:33
the reason is we Brits can go to somewhere else in Europe and apply for a family permit for free from there, basically you cannot exercise your EU treaty rights in the country your born in :NoNo:
the gov has published what it cost to process the different visa''s, and so you can see how much profit they make out of each of us :cwm23:, but they will tell you ILR and Citizenship is a privilege and thats the value they place on it :action-smiley-081:

somebody
12th September 2010, 19:42
Congrats on the new Job Tony dont worry im sure it will get easier:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Do much sure you have the correct PPE Personal protective equipment you need for your job. The company should pay for and supply the equipment. Is the area ventilated well enough? I know sometimes you have to be very tactfully about mentioning such things with managers but worth checking if its affecting you:)

Like Joe the family visit visa sounds like it may possibly have the ECO ask why is the Wife of a British Citizen Visiting rather than applying for a Spouse Visa and staying with you would need a good and genuine reason. Nothing is impossible but like Joe, I can see more reasons why it would raise red flags of doubt with an ECO than green flags of lets pass this Visa.

Sim11UK
12th September 2010, 19:46
well sim your living and working in the uk, and you're going to apply for a visit visa for your wife, WHY ! what's up with the spouse visa

Not looking at that option now, but we did think about it a few months ago...much like Tony is now.

I'm married to a Filipina...I'm living & working here now, but that dosen't mean it's a permanent situation? Plans can change quickly, for whatever reason?

stevewool
12th September 2010, 20:00
indeed sim , life changes so quick , i am lucky i know with emma being here :)

Sim11UK
12th September 2010, 20:06
indeed sim , life changes so quick , i am lucky i know with emma being here :)

You're a happy man Steve, It's plain to see...Good luck! to you & Emma. :)

\\\\ToNy////
12th September 2010, 21:59
yes at work i wear a mask, goggles, overalls and has an extraction, the fumes rise up and my neck is long so puts my head right over the fumes hehe, but i was ok last week, ive leaned how to avoid the fumes,
as for this visa situation, im upset about it, we have no chance of getting the souse visa its too early to try, and the family visit visa will only bugger our chances of getting the spouse visa, seams like a loose loose situation,
soooo ill have to change my plans again, ill go and visit her at xmas or when they dont need me at my new job, thats if i have enough money saved for the flight, cant wait to be with her again:)

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 22:02
sim i think it will be refused, but at £70 its worth a try once, but only once. it might create problems (interview etc) when you do apply for a spouse visa ..

but if your misses gets it :D upto 6 months in the uk with you :rolleyes:

whats the prob, your savings or wage slips? cant you borrow money from your family/friends, use a cred card ?

Sim11UK
12th September 2010, 22:40
sim i think it will be refused, but at £70 its worth a try once, but only once. it might create problems (interview etc) when you do apply for a spouse visa ..

but if your misses gets it :D upto 6 months in the uk with you :rolleyes:

whats the prob, your savings or wage slips? cant you borrow money from your family/friends, use a cred card ?

Think you misunderstood me Joe, not going for the family visit visa now, but yeah proof of income is a worry for spouse visa, though I support her financially.

Tony whatever happens, don't give up hope...You'll get there in the end. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

joebloggs
12th September 2010, 23:32
well i hope you sort it out soon sim :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Sim11UK
13th September 2010, 20:01
well i hope you sort it out soon sim :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheers! Bloggsy :xxgrinning--00xx3:

\\\\ToNy////
13th September 2010, 20:18
i had to tell liz the bad news yesterday, i felt so bad, she is loseiing hope the same as me:(
should we apply for the family visit visa just once, or is there another visa we can apply for,
i think ill email the vfs and try and see what they say

purple
23rd September 2010, 11:58
Hi Tony,
I want to share my experience. My husband Mark was here 2 months ago and we got married a month after. He visited Phils 4 times this year to be with me. After spending our honeymoon in Sri Lanka and Malaysia he went with me to VFS and apply for family visit visa to visit husband and meet his parents for the first time. My children from previous relationship are living here in Cebu, and mind you I have a Welsh stepfather and both my parents don't want to live in the UK and neither me because I'm pretty happy here. After a week we receive the Refusal Notice on the grounds that my Cert of Employment doesn't have a letterhead, and I did not include any bank statements because I don't keep money in the bank. SO, the ECO thinks that my visit is not genuine and thinks that I will not be accommodated in the UK. Even though my husband owns a house, on full time employment as a lecturer at uni. portsmouth. We submitted my pays from paypal, cert of properties under my parents because all of the properties are under their names even though I like 10 miles from my parents but they own this. I included a letter explaining what I will do in the UK and why the properties under my parents name and some properties of my mum which she inherits from her parents. It would have show a strong ties to Phils. I've included the birth certificates of my children too. My husband also made a letter explaining about his properties. Anyhow, when the Refusal Notice arrived with my passport, it came with an appeal forms. On the forms it states what are the things you did not agree with on the ECO decision. You need to contest it stating the grounds of the visit. It is a shame really, because for genuine people like me to enter UK are the ones the ECOs will refuse outright. It should come to their realization that if indeed I wanted to enter UK to settle we would have applied for Spouse Visa. But it never occur to me to settle in the UK.
It is worth to give a try to apply for family visit visa. You may never know if you get a sensible ECO who has the common sense to handle the application. As for the ECO who handled my application, he/she failed to acknowledge that I have children in Phils, even though I clearly stated in my letter that I do not want to settle in the UK because of my children and hubby is moving here next year for good. That too is included in the letter, my only very reason to visit UK is to meet his parents and sister in person. And be together for few months before he moves here on March 2011.
You see, it would depend on the ECO. But you will can always appeal and it's free. It's just frustrating though because it is a human rights code article 7.
Hope this help and answers your query about family visit visa.

joebloggs
23rd September 2010, 13:30
. It's just frustrating though because it is a human rights code article 7.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

but the embassy can say there is nothing stopping his parents or him going to visit you in the phils, i'm sure they mentioned this in your refusal ?

purple
23rd September 2010, 13:36
:xxgrinning--00xx3:

but the embassy can say there is nothing stopping his parents or him going to visit you in the phils, i'm sure they mentioned this in your refusal ?

No they failed to mention that on the refusal either, as his parents are old and frail. He put that on the appeal letter though. The embassy sure knows that he has been here back and forth. He has been here 4x this year alone. Hope they will consider as my hubby is back to teaching and won't be here till xmas break which is frustrating as we want to be together before he moves here permanently.

sars_notd_virus
23rd September 2010, 14:37
hello purple!!

did u provide an employment letter with proper letterhead and seal with it when u file for an appeal?
am sure the ECO is educated about how life is in the Philippines(everything can be repair,fix and can be fake)..thats why birth cert.marriage license, annulment ,recognition of divorce now shld be in NSO paper.
Anyway,appeal processing can take ages ,..why not process a new visit visa after 6months?? if u really want to meet the family the soonest time before your hubby settles in the philippines with u

purple
23rd September 2010, 15:10
hello purple!!

did u provide an employment letter with proper letterhead and seal with it when u file for an appeal?
am sure the ECO is educated about how life is in the Philippines(everything can be repair,fix and can be fake)..thats why birth cert.marriage license, annulment ,recognition of divorce now shld be in NSO paper.
Anyway,appeal processing can take ages ,..why not process a new visit visa after 6months?? if u really want to meet the family the soonest time before your hubby settles in the philippines with u

It is not me who is anxious to meet his family. It is him and his family and doesn't want to fly out here because of recent killings etc. the media made honest about my country. My line of work is home based and my boss is in Connecticut. I wonder if my husband calling the embassy will influence the visa.

\\\\ToNy////
19th October 2010, 22:35
little update, 2 weeks ago my employs said there isnt enough work for me, so im unemployed again, a bit dissapointed especialy as i showed them how to save about £250 per month,
but nothing i can do now, just seach for a nother job,
ive emailed the vfs in manila and asked then about my wifes chances of getting a family visit visa, and i stated that her bro and his wife will pay for everything and accomidate her,
im expecting a good reply but i may aswel try:cwm3:
while im here i just want to say thankyou to everyone on here for being nice to me, i feal like i have good friends here now:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Arthur Little
19th October 2010, 23:22
little update, 2 weeks ago my employs said there isnt enough work for me, so im unemployed again, while im here i just want to say thankyou to everyone on here for being nice to me, i feal like i have good friends here now:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Sorry about the job, Tony ... but from what you told us at the beginning of this thread, it doesn't seem to have been the healthiest of working environments. :rolleyes: So maybe it's not such a bad thing that you're no longer there!

Just keep looking for something more suited to your skills. Remember, too, that you're a really nice guy and you deserve better! And you're right, you are, indeed, among good friends on this forum. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

mikey73
20th October 2010, 07:58
little update, 2 weeks ago my employs said there isnt enough work for me, so im unemployed again, a bit dissapointed especialy as i showed them how to save about £250 per month,
but nothing i can do now, just seach for a nother job,
ive emailed the vfs in manila and asked then about my wifes chances of getting a family visit visa, and i stated that her bro and his wife will pay for everything and accomidate her,
im expecting a good reply but i may aswel try:cwm3:
while im here i just want to say thankyou to everyone on here for being nice to me, i feal like i have good friends here now:xxgrinning--00xx3:

like arthur sorry to hear about your job tony. keep looking. all the shops will be looking for xmas temp just now, they might be something suitable with one of them. the store i work in, we are just away to start interviews for the positions. even our main warehouse takes on extra staff over xmas too. all of the other national retailers will be the same. hopefully you will find something soon tony

\\\\ToNy////
20th October 2010, 18:40
thanks arthur and mikey, ive applyed at toys r us, boots ect, just waiting replys,
as for replys ive had a reply from the vfs but as expected its an automated reply, ill have a closer read of it later, in the email was a link, mey help others here also, http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/visitandtransit/vistortransitvisa2
you guy might make more sence of it that me:cwm3:,
ill send all the info to my wife and to her bro here in uk