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Dedworth
12th September 2010, 20:35
Another halfwit shooting himself in the foot similar to Rooney
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/963857/Ricky-Hatton-drugs-shame.html
Ricky Hatton’s cocaine shame
World champion boxer caught on camera snorting line after line of illegal drug
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8992177.stm
Former world boxing champion Ricky Hatton is "distraught and devastated" after newspaper allegations of cocaine use, according to his spokesman.
joebloggs
12th September 2010, 22:06
:doh i thought you meant that scouser :censored: derrick hatton :icon_lol:
KeithD
12th September 2010, 22:17
His life he can do what he wants. People can take drugs for recreational reason, not everyone gets hooked, same as ciggies, and alcohol.... both of which kill more than people on illegal drugs.
les_taxi
12th September 2010, 22:42
His life he can do what he wants. People can take drugs for recreational reason, not everyone gets hooked, same as ciggies, and alcohol.... both of which kill more than people on illegal drugs.
Yes i'm agreeing with you Keith,Cmon Dedworth your team are looking good spread some happy news and don't become a grumpy old man:icon_lol:
Dedworth
12th September 2010, 23:05
Yes i'm agreeing with you Keith,Cmon Dedworth your team are looking good spread some happy news and don't become a grumpy old man:icon_lol:
Sorry Les in a belligerent mood - footballs looking encouraging though :D
Doc Alan
12th September 2010, 23:17
Cocaine is highly addictive and Ricky Hatton is not the first British boxer to take it (Frank Bruno and Joe Calzaghe come to mind).
The hypocrisy is that alcohol and tobacco are legal and taxed ; drugs which are in massive demand are illegal, allowing all profits to go to those outside the law. Drug supply and consumption must be legalised, taxed and controlled. Drug criminality fuels corruption and violence. People should be free to make lifestyle decisions without state intervention. I'm not condoning smoking, drinking to excess, or taking drugs ...but if people chose to do so, and fall ill, they should be treated as patients, not criminals.
triple5
13th September 2010, 01:08
Cocaine is highly addictive and Ricky Hatton is not the first British boxer to take it (Frank Bruno and Joe Calzaghe come to mind).
The hypocrisy is that alcohol and tobacco are legal and taxed ; drugs which are in massive demand are illegal, allowing all profits to go to those outside the law. Drug supply and consumption must be legalised, taxed and controlled. Drug criminality fuels corruption and violence. People should be free to make lifestyle decisions without state intervention. I'm not condoning smoking, drinking to excess, or taking drugs ...but if people chose to do so, and fall ill, they should be treated as patients, not criminals.
Professor Sir Ian Gilmore seems in favour of decriminalizing drugs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7949342/Cocaine-should-be-legal-says-top-doctor.html
I'd have to agree with him, or at least some of the less harmful drugs. Cocaine probably not, too addictive.
I think Ricky hatton will be fine, probably the wake call he needs. His careers over already, but if he can find something to keep him occupied, whether it be his promoting or training another fighter he'll be ok :xxgrinning--00xx3: He's a good lad, just likes being one of the lads a bit too much :rolleyes:
johncar54
13th September 2010, 09:04
Educate people on the effects of all substances, including tobacco and alcohol and the results of using (including that cocaine usually rots the nose requiring plastic surgery) and then legalise the lot. Anyone with an ounce of sense would not use drugs if they knew what they do.
Result: Saves police, court etc. time, thus public money and just about removes all the criminal problems associated with them when they are illegal..
The illegality of prostitution should also be removed for the same reasons.
KeithD
13th September 2010, 09:17
The illegality of prostitution should also be removed for the same reasons.
You've just had yourself added to Rooney's Xmas list :D
johncar54
13th September 2010, 09:27
That's really good to know !!!!
On a serious note, prostitution, as such, is not illegal in UK, soliciting, living off immoral earnings, keeping a brothel, kerb crawling etc are.
fred
13th September 2010, 14:11
On a serious note, prostitution, as such, is not illegal in UK, soliciting, living off immoral earnings, keeping a brothel, kerb crawling etc are.
Never really understood that law.. A prostitute does not make a living via immoral earnings as long as they do not keep a brothel or curb crawl? So thats why there are so many new "massage parlours" springing up all over the UK!!
johncar54
13th September 2010, 15:50
It's not the prostitute who has the problem with living off immoral earning. She does not get prosecuted. It's the person who gets any of the money, i.e. the brothel owner, the landlord of her flat or room, the pimp etc. The prostitute gets prosecuted for soliciting for prostitution in a public place.
If the police can prove (and they do when they bother to) that a massage parlour is being used for paid sex, the owner gets done.
. Wikipedia:-
In England and Wales:
• it is illegal to pay for sexual services “of a prostitute subjected to force”, which is a strict liability offense (since spring 2010, under the Policing and Crime Act 2009)
• for a "prostitute" to loiter or conduct solicitation in a street or public place is illegal.
• it is also illegal for a potential client to solicit in a public place, or solicit from a motor vehicle ("kerb crawling").
• keeping a brothel is illegal (It is an offence for a person to keep, or to manage, or act or assist in the management of, a brothel to which people resort for practices involving prostitution [5]); a brothel is a premises where two or more prostitutes work.
• controlling prostitution for gain is an offence (pimping)
• a prostitute is defined by the Sexual Offences Act 2003 as a someone who has offered or provided sexual services to another person in return for any financial arrangement on at least one occasion. This definition replaces the previous definition of a common prostitute.
• working as a prostitute in private is legal, as is working as an outcall escort.
• child prostitution is specifically illegal for the person paying (where child is defined as below 18).
(Under the law, a prostitute can be either male or female.)
Dedworth
24th September 2010, 08:10
Ricky Hatton stripped of boxing licence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/9027165.stm
Ricky Hatton has been stripped of his licence to box at a British Boxing Board of Control (BBBC) hearing but can still work as a promoter in the sport.
Hatton was found guilty of misconduct and also fined £20,000 plus costs after allegations about his use of cocaine.
A BBBC statement said Hatton's "actions and behaviour were detrimental to the interests of boxing" and had "brought the sport into disrepute".
Hatton, 31, is now at a rehabilitation clinic and facing a police inquiry.
tomboo
24th September 2010, 08:14
Ricky is following the same pattern as so many high profile sports and pop stars.. After reaching the top of their profession they look for another high, and where does someone go after hearing they are world champion. Its sad someone who gave so much for so many years turns to drugs. But to castigate him and just assume punishment will fix everything is wrong.. To have him reformed and to turn his life around so he can get the message to kids would have such a good effect
KeithD
24th September 2010, 08:37
Well the police involvement is a waste of resources, you can't get done for snorting, they'll just ask who the dealer is, he'll tell them to go :action-smiley-081: themselves.
He wasn't going to box anyway, so I doubt the license will bother him, but they board are allowing him to continue to promote the sport as they get a %£ of that :doh
johncar54
24th September 2010, 10:44
........you can't get done for snorting............,
I know I am out of touch but since when did that apply ?
Possession of cocaine is a criminal offence. In this case the problem would be proving that he was in possession of it. Saying that he snorted it, unless he pleaded guilty, would be practically impossible to prove, as although he might have believed the substance to have been cocaine it may not have been.
KeithD
24th September 2010, 12:06
The police don't bother with small crimes like that these days, their excuse is they only want the sellers, not the users.
junior02
26th September 2010, 17:25
Cocaine is highly addictive and Ricky Hatton is not the first British boxer to take it (Frank Bruno and Joe Calzaghe come to mind).
The hypocrisy is that alcohol and tobacco are legal and taxed ; drugs which are in massive demand are illegal, allowing all profits to go to those outside the law. Drug supply and consumption must be legalised, taxed and controlled. Drug criminality fuels corruption and violence. People should be free to make lifestyle decisions without state intervention. I'm not condoning smoking, drinking to excess, or taking drugs ...but if people chose to do so, and fall ill, they should be treated as patients, not criminals.
i think that people that take cocaine should not be treated on nhs. its ilegal and the people that take it and fall ill from it thats ther own faut and problem. its crazy to say that people that take cocaine should be treated as patients and not criminals. if u take drugs u are a criminal and you are giving money 2 no gud scumbag drug dealers. i work on doors in and around bristol and see the aftermath of kids high on cocaine, and b4 anybody says about drinking to much, well drink is legal and the kids that are drunk are far more easier to control than those on drugs like cocaine. ive no time for drug users and dealers and the do gooders, all that think they have the right to get treated by our not free nhs as every honest working person in uk is paying towards it every week from ther hard earned wages. if the goverment made a rule that if u take drugs and fall ill, you will not get treatment on nhs, i think that a lot of people would think again b4 they took drugs.....
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