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RickyR
11th October 2010, 19:29
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319465/Man-refused-entry-UK-English-enough.html

Born to a former officer of the Welsh Guards, Stephen Hewitt had every right to consider himself British.
As well as being able to trace his family lineage back to the 15th century, he was educated, married and employed in Britain.
But Mr Hewitt, 50, who moved to the US in the 1980s, was stunned when he was told he could not return as a permanent resident.
Enlarge Businessman Stephen Hewitt (right) wants to come back to England to be reunited with his family, including daughter Leigh (left)
Despite both his parents, his three daughters and grandson living here he was told that his UK ties were ‘not strong enough.’
The decision comes just days after it was revealed former Guantanamo Bay detainee Binyam Mohamed, 32, has been granted permanent residency in Britain.
The controversial move came despite Ethiopian-born Mr Mohamed - who moved to the UK in 1994 - continuing to claim the Government, MI5 and MI6 were complicit in his illegal detention and alleged torture.
Mr Hewitt, an estate agent living in Rhode Island, said: ‘I’m bitter about this. I’m not asking for any benefits or any special circumstances. I will always work. I’m not above doing anything for a living.

‘I’ve always worked. I’ve never taken benefits from the UK or the United States. I’ve always paid my taxes wherever I am at. All my family have said they will support me.
‘I don’t see how you can have any stronger family ties than this. I can’t comment on every case of immigration in England now, but I doubt there are many of these people coming into the country now that have stronger ties than I do to the country.’
'Inhumane decision': The strong family ties have been ignored, says Stephen's daughter Pamela (left) pictured with her sister Leigh (right) and Pamela's son Callum
He said: ‘I just want to be home with my family. England has always been home, my first home always, and this has been a big punch in the stomach because people in this country all think that I’m British.
‘I’ve always said that I’m British even though I was born in America and have an American birth certificate and passport, but now they’ve made it abundantly clear that I’m not English and it hurts.’
The case hinges on his complex family history which saw his own father, Michael, born in Holland while his parents were living there temporarily in the 1930s.
Mr Hewitt Snr was registered as a British citizen by birth and trained as an officer at Sandhurst before serving with the Welsh Guards.
But he later emigrated to the Chicago where he married and had three children - including Stephen - before returning to the UK.
His son, then aged just four, returned to the UK with him and he was educated at Blue Coat Church of England School and afterwards studied at Oldham Technical College while working in the cotton mills.
Mr Hewitt has spent £4,000 so far in his bid to return home. Here he is pictured with his brother David in 1965 after arriving in the UK
He married his first wife, Julie, in 1979 and they had his first child, Pamela, before moving back to the States in 1982.
Mr Hewitt Jnr joined the US Army and served with the 82nd Airborne Division but he and his wife later divorced.
She returned to the UK with their three daughters in 1995 while Mr Hewitt remained in the States.
However after the breakdown of his second marriage, Mr Hewitt wanted to be close to his elderly parents, daughters and grandson.
He applied for the right of abode in the UK last year, citing his father’s British citizenship.
But because his father himself was only British by descent, he was told he could not be considered British and as he had been born and lived in the US he was legally an American.

Mr Hewitt, a Manchester United fan, said: ‘I’ve always maintained very close ties to England. I want to be with my family.
My parents are both in their 70’s, they’re both healthy but things can change very very quickly.’
His father, Michael, a retired university lecturer said: ‘Other people are allowed to bring their brides and fiancees and certain members of family because the law allows it. But my son seems to be a victim of anti-Americanism.’
The UK Border Agency refused to comment on the case but last night Phil Woolas, MP for Oldham and former Minister of State for Borders and Immigration, said he would spreak with the UK Border Agency boss.
He said: ‘This is a straight forward situation that is easily resolved by the application of common sense. There’s no doubt that Michael Hewitt is British and because of that his son is entitled to British citizenship. Of course the family should be allowed to be together.'


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Dedworth
11th October 2010, 19:38
:cwm23: An Albanian pimp who jumps out of the back of a lorry in Dover waving the asylum card is usually granted citizenship after a few difficult years collecting whatever benefits are thrown at him

joebloggs
11th October 2010, 19:45
‘I’ve always said that I’m British even though I was born in America and have an American birth certificate and passport, but now they’ve made it abundantly clear that I’m not English and it hurts.’
The case hinges on his complex family history which saw his own father, Michael, born in Holland while his parents were living there temporarily in the 1930s.
Mr Hewitt Snr was registered as a British citizen by birth and trained as an officer at Sandhurst before serving with the Welsh Guards.
But he later emigrated to the Chicago where he married and had three children - including Stephen - before returning to the UK.
His son, then aged just four, returned to the UK with him and he was educated at Blue Coat Church of England School and afterwards studied at Oldham Technical College while working in the cotton mills.

He applied for the right of abode in the UK last year, citing his father’s British citizenship.
But because his father himself was only British by descent, he was told he could not be considered British and as he had been born and lived in the US he was legally an American.

i think its a fair decision, hes not lived in the uk for more than 20-30 years, he was born in the USA, spent what 16+yrs in the UK, why does he think hes British ? his dad should have sorted his citizenship out while he lived in the UK

a warning to those who have kids outside the UK, that their kids, your grandchildren will only be British if born in the uk or possibly by registration.

stevewool
11th October 2010, 19:46
it makes me so angry and that what makes me want to move from this **** hole i call home for now, i know there are lots of things good in this country, but its getting harder to find them , yes they say the health service is great if anything goes wrong , but is it worth being her just for that reason, i dont read the papers watch the news mutch and before i got invovled with emma i thought everone that came to country was after a freeby, well i was wrong on the last bit 99.95 what freebies,no wonder i have gave up my right to vote in this great england ,

grahamw48
11th October 2010, 23:50
Yep, the UK is a lost cause.

The MP for Oldham should have plenty of experience in such matters anyway, since half the population of that town originate in Pakistan, many of them not even being able to speak English. :rolleyes:

It was to avoid such complications that I made sure my son was born in England and not the Philippines.

The sooner I can leave this dumping ground of a country run by do-gooders and the EC, to retire next to a nice beach in the Phils the better. :cwm23:

fred
12th October 2010, 02:15
Joe..I think we had this conversation quite a while ago..Remember my mate who was born in Holland on a British air base where his mother and father were assigned? He is only a Brit by decent?? Cant remember now..:Erm:
Anyway..Thanks for reminding me about the British by decent thing as both my boys were born in the uk and will be OK ..Their younger sister however was born here so that could leave her with problems down the line if her kids are not born in the UK..
I dont get stressed with these things any more since leaving but can understand very well how angry this makes some Englishmen.:cwm23:

joebloggs
12th October 2010, 07:26
Joe..I think we had this conversation quite a while ago..Remember my mate who was born in Holland on a British air base where his mother and father were assigned? He is only a Brit by decent?? Cant remember now..:Erm:
Anyway..Thanks for reminding me about the British by decent thing as both my boys were born in the uk and will be OK ..Their younger sister however was born here so that could leave her with problems down the line if her kids are not born in the UK..
I dont get stressed with these things any more since leaving but can understand very well how angry this makes some Englishmen.:cwm23:

yes i remember fred.

i think there are special rules if your in the armed forces and your child is born outside the UK.but from this it looks like his dad had left the forces b4 his kids were born.

also like i said b4, his dad or himself should have sorted his citizenship out b4 he left to go back to America, he probably had ilr but that would have expired after been outside the UK 2yrs.

hes as much British Fred as your filipino or I'm Lithuanian :doh

tomboo
12th October 2010, 11:53
maybe he is not british due to his american passport etc, but i have to agree with him, i dont see why he cant live in britain given his history, why not let him move here and seek citizenship like our pinay brides would, to me it seems unfair, does that mean if i spend another 15 years in saudi im not british?

joebloggs
12th October 2010, 13:15
maybe he is not british due to his american passport etc, but i have to agree with him, i dont see why he cant live in britain given his history, why not let him move here and seek citizenship like our pinay brides would, to me it seems unfair, does that mean if i spend another 15 years in saudi im not british?

he's not british he's american :D
he was born in the USA :rolleyes:
if he marries a british woman, he could get citizenship in 3yrs just like our pinay brides :xxgrinning--00xx3: nothing unfair there :D

JimOttley
12th October 2010, 21:44
he's not british he's american :D
he was born in the USA :rolleyes:
if he marries a british woman, he could get citizenship in 3yrs just like our pinay brides :xxgrinning--00xx3: nothing unfair there :D
I must agree with Joe, this guy is American, his dad should have sorted it at the time.

If we let everyone in who happened to have British blood we would have to allow a large part of America to live here :)

It does seem a bit mean though to state that he has few ties to the UK, he appears to have a fair number of ties, lived here for a good length of time including growing up here, his parents, kids, grandchild live here, surely if he can support himself or if his family will support him he should be allowed to be here?

Is this not just a case of the wrong type of application being presented?

JimOttley
13th October 2010, 00:40
Joe..I think we had this conversation quite a while ago..Remember my mate who was born in Holland on a British air base where his mother and father were assigned? He is only a Brit by decent?? Cant remember now..:Erm:
Anyway..Thanks for reminding me about the British by decent thing as both my boys were born in the uk and will be OK ..Their younger sister however was born here so that could leave her with problems down the line if her kids are not born in the UK..

I dont get stressed with these things any more since leaving but can understand very well how angry this makes some Englishmen.:cwm23:

That was not that long ago, I remember that conversation (I'm a Scot BTW :) we get angry too :)).

My daughter is also 'British by Descent' for me that is better than nothing, I will make sure she understands the implications when she is older, at least she has the right to travel reasonably freely as she already has her British passport.

The law surrounding this issue is complex, difficult subject :Erm:.


Jim

joebloggs
13th October 2010, 08:19
I must agree with Joe, this guy is American, his dad should have sorted it at the time.

If we let everyone in who happened to have British blood we would have to allow a large part of America to live here :)

It does seem a bit mean though to state that he has few ties to the UK, he appears to have a fair number of ties, lived here for a good length of time including growing up here, his parents, kids, grandchild live here, surely if he can support himself or if his family will support him he should be allowed to be here?

Is this not just a case of the wrong type of application being presented?

he must have had ilr when he was here for what 16+yrs, if he had it must have expired when he was out of the uk for 2yrs or more (again he should have been aware of this - as my stepson was nearly refused entry to the uk for being out of the uk 2yrs, i suppose you cant have best of both worlds - benefits of citizenship without spending 5yrs in the uk and being able to live somewhere else),
it says he was refused permanent residency, so maybe he did apply for ILE - because of his family ties..but yes if he had it is a bit mean, but he's not british thou :NoNo:

dontpushme
13th October 2010, 23:06
Is this not just a case of the wrong type of application being presented?

It does kinda sound like he just submitted the wrong type of application or something. He seems to have more than "a few" ties to the UK, but he can't just demand that rules not apply to him. He is an American citizen and I'm sure he's known that for at least a decade. He was born and raised in the US, moved back there after having a daughter, is still there, and most likely just has to go through the same process as other Americans who want to move to the UK.:Erm:

As for his daughter being a tie to the UK and a reason to let him jump the line, over here, she'd be called an anchor baby (an achor adult?).:icon_lol:

Languish
14th October 2010, 08:54
it makes me so angry and that what makes me want to move from this **** hole i call home for now, i know there are lots of things good in this country, but its getting harder to find them , yes they say the health service is great if anything goes wrong , but is it worth being her just for that reason, i dont read the papers watch the news mutch and before i got invovled with emma i thought everone that came to country was after a freeby, well i was wrong on the last bit 99.95 what freebies,no wonder i have gave up my right to vote in this great england ,

100% in agreement.