Marriage In The Phils....procedure check! Also Baguio Country Club [Archive]

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 11:29

Hi all!
Happy to find myself here and amongst like minded friends who have been there, gonna be there or being there right now!

So....am born and bred in the UK amd engaged to a lovely sweet Filipina I met in Japan and will be marrying in Baguio, Phils. (March this year)

Just want to check I have the procedure right and have remembered EVERYTHING. lol. Would hate to get their and find their was something forgotton and the wedding will not go ahead after all the arrangements and honeymoon have been paid for.
:doh
Can you check my list and point out any omissions. And also little things it would be handy to know before I go over and can prepare for in advance. Thanks in advance for your time in posting and reading this thread.

1) CNI from uk registrar
2) Innoculations
3) Change CNI at Manila British Embassy
4) Bring divorce Certificate, 10 year Passport
5) Apply wedding licence
6) Attend Family Planning Seminar
(all 14 days before wedding)

Scared to death I get their and am asked for something I forgot!

Having the wedding at the Baguio Country Club. Any thoughts? Probably should have asked that before I booked it...
Take care and have a great day!

pacificelectric

2nd January 2011, 11:56

I've always wondered about the "family planning seminar" being compulsory, sometimes I read it is not compulsory beyond a specific age limit...........

Josieyam65

2nd January 2011, 12:12

I think you also have to bring:

1. birth certificate
2. CENOMAR

joebloggs

2nd January 2011, 13:01

and if your going to baguio bring your coat :freezin: :D

Terpe

2nd January 2011, 13:40

I remember driving to Baguio along those mountain roads .:yikes:
Only ever did that once. Always fly recently. Mind you .........:doh

joebloggs

2nd January 2011, 13:49

I remember driving to Baguio along those mountain roads

where the bandits are :omg:

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 16:41

Birth Certificate! Of course! THanks!

CENOMAR?!?

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 17:40

ah yes the certificate of singleness for mahal ko! I see. Not compulsary but a good idea right.

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 17:42

hmmm cant find anyone doing flights from Manila to Baguio!
Bus.....?

Sim11UK

2nd January 2011, 17:51

Your fiance will need a CENOMAR, we were asked for it. She gets it from her local National Statistics Office (NSO) :)

Ako Si Jamie

2nd January 2011, 17:59

hmmm cant find anyone doing flights from Manila to Baguio!
Bus.....? The Victory Liner (coach) goes from Manila to Baguio @ 430 php.

http://www.victoryliner.com/maps/

Terpe

2nd January 2011, 19:06

The Victory Liner (coach) goes from Manila to Baguio @ 430 php.

For me, the bus/coach would be the absolute last resort. :NoNo:

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 19:17

Thanks so much guys! Appreciate all your help!

So revised list:
1) CNI from uk registrar
2) Innoculations
3) Change CNI at Manila British Embassy
4) Bring divorce Certificate, 10 year Passport, Birth Certificate
5) Fiance bring CENOMAR
5) Apply wedding licence
6) Attend Family Planning Seminar
(all 14 days before wedding)

Will check out the Victory Liner! Thanks! What are the chances of a hold up on it in the mountains......?

YorkshirePuddin

2nd January 2011, 19:23

For me, the bus/coach would be the absolute last resort. :NoNo:
Any alternatives?

joebloggs

2nd January 2011, 20:46

Any alternatives?

i wonder whats happened to the airport at bagiuo ??

http://article.wn.com/view/2008/11/14/Baguio_airport_loses_last_commercial_carrier/

closed, aisan spirit was the last airline to close end of 2008 :NoNo:

well the other option is to hire a taxi and do a deal with them, who could take you there and bring you back, thats what we had to do when the weather was bad going back to manila and the planes were grounded. had to buy them lunch and it took over 2 or 3 hrs i think

Terpe

3rd January 2011, 09:24

So sorry YorkshirePuddin. I had no idea that those flights had stopped.
That is really strange with so many tourists and business people wanting to get there and back quickly.
Hmmm, looks like you will have very little choice.
Why not check out the websites of the buses to compare on-board facilities and schedule times to see which is better for you.
The alternative would be either taxi or van and driver. But if you are travelling alone and have no contacts, then the bus would be better.

Be aware of any rules for the purchase of valid tickets.
Be aware of the length of time it may take to journey, and be prepared for your comfort.

Have you travelled by road to Baguio before?

Terpe

3rd January 2011, 19:15

The latest news from Baguio:-
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20110103-312211/Baguio-shivers-but-Aquino-gone

So the airport remains open for business........ despite sudden cold spell:D

joebloggs

3rd January 2011, 20:27

YorkshirePuddin

6th January 2011, 01:21

Josieyam65

6th January 2011, 01:54

ah yes the certificate of singleness for mahal ko! I see. Not compulsary but a good idea right.

When me and my husband now went to City Registrar to apply for a marriage license, one of the requirements for both of us was our CENOMARs. Please see the link below, maybe it would help.

http://pinoyingermany.blogspot.com/2008/10/marriage-requirements-in-philippines.html

Goodluck

YorkshirePuddin

6th January 2011, 22:42

Sim11UK

6th January 2011, 23:51

So would I ALSO need a CENOMARs as well as a CNI?

Also the marriage licence... can it be applied for in manila even though i am getting married in baguio? or just in Baguio?
Thanks EVERYONE for all your help and advice! Glad to have discovered the forum. :)

I already told you, you need the CENOMAR :doh It's what your wife to be needs to get (Certificate of no marriage)...to prove she is free to marry you.

Just get the license, where you intend to marry...Baguio.

YorkshirePuddin

7th January 2011, 05:44

Yes I understand that my fiancé needs the cenomar, I was asking if I also needed a cenomar (as well as cni) as josiey indicated. Sorry this all new to me. Please understand.

It would have been helpful to get marriage licence in Manila before I headed to Baguio which is why I was asking if it was possible.

Josieyam65

7th January 2011, 07:25

Hello YorkshirePuddin,
I just want to say that in our experience (Husband and me), both of us were asked for a CENOMAR. What we did was we both went to NSO to get it. We applied for marriage license in Cebu City. I just dont know if it is also required in the other cities here in the Philippines. You can ask your fiancee to inquire in Baguio city hall.
And you are required to have your CNI. It is different from cenomar.
My fiance (now husband) only brought with him his CNI, Birth certificate, passport and baptism certificate.

Sim11UK

7th January 2011, 07:46

Yes I understand that my fiancé needs the cenomar, I was asking if I also needed a cenomar (as well as cni) as josiey indicated. Sorry this all new to me. Please understand.

Ok, CNI for you & CENOMAR for her, plus all that everyone else has mentioned...Good luck! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

YorkshirePuddin

7th January 2011, 18:22

Arthur Little

7th January 2011, 18:53

Gulp! What have I let myself in for...:cwm24::crazy:

:) That's what we all wonder when we first hear about the myriad of "red tape" to be negotiated :rolleyes: ... but don't worry - like the rest of us - you'll get there in the end. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

laurel

7th January 2011, 22:41

thanks for clarification guys! A fountain of knowlege! hehe. Please excuse me, am a newbie to Uk/Phils relationships!

I look forward to you all answering my many questions when I begin the immigration to UK process! Gulp! What have I let myself in for...
:cwm24::crazy:
Welcome to the forum,
been on Victory Liner twice, from manila-Baguio......................its a long way , but if your gf is with you its not a prob.
Pain in the butt when you come home tho..............a bit torturous cos you know every turn of the wheel is a turn closer to sayin goodbye.

What date in March.........? We may bump into each other.:)

All the best:xxgrinning--00xx3:

YorkshirePuddin

13th January 2011, 01:27

thanks guys!

Ok another question.... (sorry)....

There are 2 weeks from landing to the wedding date (including weekends) - so 10 working days...
Is that enough time to change cni in manila and then travel to Baguio for wedding licence application and seminar...begginning to think I am cutting it fine....:yikes:
Baguio registrar seem to think it will not be done in time!

Sim11UK

13th January 2011, 08:34

Get to the Embassy ASAP on arrival in Manila, providing it is within opening hours of course.
You're supposed to pick it up the next day, but if you explain your tight schedule, they might do it sameday??? as someone else on here managed to get it...Also depends what day it is?

Get to the Registrars as soon as you can...License will take 10 working days, though we got ours in 10 straight days (though this dosen't appear to be the norm) Hopefully, you should just about have enough time.

...Just re-read your post. If you meant you have 10 days, from changing your CNI to having the marriage license in your hand, then 10 days probably wont be enough?

Pete/London

13th January 2011, 15:10

No have not been been to the Phils before. Did all my "courting" in Japan and on the net!
So not travelled on the mountain road to Baguio. :cwm24:
Hope the bus wont get hijacked....

Married in Baguio then to Boracay for honeymoon though....THEN the dreaded immigration malarkey.... you will probably see lots of posts by me when THAT time gets here.., gulp!

I have been to Baguio a few times and as far as I know there is no problem with bandits, always felt safe there, and cool.
We always either drive ourselves with a hire car or people carrier or hire a man+van, the buses frighten the life out of me. They are fast and we are constantly overtaken by them on the mountain roads.
You have more chance of meeting bandits in Boracay, they are called Hoteliers or touts:)

Terpe

13th January 2011, 21:19

You have more chance of meeting bandits in Boracay, they are called Hoteliers or touts:)

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
Agree!

sparky

14th January 2011, 00:15

from memory the british embassy shuts at 12 for getting your cni so get there before 12

if its not busy they will do it there and then

Sim11UK

14th January 2011, 00:28

Sparky they've changed the rules, it's next day service now...apply then pick it up next day.

keithAngel

14th January 2011, 04:42

You should get your fiance to order your cenomar she will need the details from your birth certificate especialy your parents names in full she can order it now from the n.s,o. localy

get her to check for a D.S.W.D seminar that you can both attend immediatly you arive you need this certificate to apply for the liscence just did mine yesterday

Your timing is tight and you might need to look further afield for the seminar because some places have once a week depending demand

I would say its dificult to know what time is needed because you never know what your local office will come up with

if She is under 25 count on needing both parents to attend the apllication :xxgrinning--00xx3:

YorkshirePuddin

29th January 2011, 23:11

can anyone confirm that this is the right map location for the embassy where I would sort my English CNI?
http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=british+embassy+manila&fb=1&hq=british+embassy&hnear=Manila,+Philippines&cid=0,0,9845311009323935425&ei=no9ETaqdMoa64ga2wqEH&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQnwIwAQ
Thanks again.

Also......if you have come across this thread because you are thinking of using the Baguio Country Club for your wedding. DONT!!!!!!
I will be writing a detail review on tripadvisor in due course but after a string of them messing things up, lack of communication, they suddenly decided that they had "double booked" 6 weeks before the wedding was due. A big company has booked the ballroom...call me cynical but perhaps they were making more profit then my 100guest wedding...
:angry:
Save yourself a lot of stress and heartache. Avoid the BCC

steve monty

29th January 2011, 23:59

can anyone confirm that this is the right map location for the embassy where I would sort my English CNI?
http://maps.google.com/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=british+embassy+manila&fb=1&hq=british+embassy&hnear=Manila,+Philippines&cid=0,0,9845311009323935425&ei=no9ETaqdMoa64ga2wqEH&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQnwIwAQ
Thanks again.

hi there yorkshirepuddin,

yes that is where the Uk embassy is. i was there in December. It is situated on a slight hill and the gates are about 20 meters from the road. the taxi driver drove straight past it first time we went!:doh At the bottom of the hill is the Korean Embassy if you see that you gone too far. I hope this helps

keithAngel

30th January 2011, 02:59

Sorry to hear about the stress from the venue ,had my own problems selecting the right place here in Cebu hope to confirm on Tuesday

This one your going to have to trust your lady to sort out

This is my thread on the wedding licence see also my thread on the seminar

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/29149-The-Marriage-Licence?p=269029&highlight=#post269029

:xxgrinning--00xx3: Perhaps you guys could sticky it as its up to date and definitive to the actual rules

YorkshirePuddin

31st January 2011, 23:27

I am a UK resident and dont have a cenomar though I have CNI. Does that matter?!?!? I fly in a week and am worried now!

YorkshirePuddin

31st January 2011, 23:27

thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

steve monty

1st February 2011, 14:18

I am a UK resident and dont have a cenomar though I have CNI. Does that matter?!?!? I fly in a week and am worried now!

You yourself do not need a CENOMAR, i got married in December and did not need one. All you need is your CNI and Birth certificate and passport. Happy trip and enjoy your special day. Don't get stressed out!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

YorkshirePuddin

2nd February 2011, 00:49

Thanks Steve for the confirmation and putting my mind at rest! phew!

Happy trip and enjoy your special day. Don't get stressed out!:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Wise advice, though no matter how much I think "worrying solves nothing..." - I still worry! lol!
Cant wait to jump on that plane next week! Yay!
:Wave:

steve monty

3rd February 2011, 01:18

Thanks Steve for the confirmation and putting my mind at rest! phew!

Wise advice, though no matter how much I think "worrying solves nothing..." - I still worry! lol!
Cant wait to jump on that plane next week! Yay!
:Wave:

I was exactly the same, always worrying! lol

Once I was out there the worrying stops, I was just happy being with mahal. everything will work out for you. make sure you get to the embassy early morning, as that will get the ball rolling for you, remember to take your tickets to baguio if you have to go early next day as they will get it ready for next day morning instead of afternoon for you. Enjoy it and go with the flow :xxgrinning--00xx3:

monahd0418

4th February 2011, 09:41

keithAngel

4th February 2011, 17:59

You might want to read post 36:Erm:

monahd0418

4th February 2011, 21:57

You might want to read post 36:Erm:

My friend had her wedding reception at BCC last december and the place was nice and they are also friendly. My aunt help her book the place because she's working there. And most of the wedding coordinators here will actually ask if you like BCC or John Hay. BCC is cheaper compared to other hotels here.

I'm sorry to hear that it didn't go well with BCC. But enjoy your stay here in Baguio. My boyfriend will be arriving on April.

Sim11UK

6th February 2011, 08:23

Hi Sim11Uk So have I got this straight I will follow yourkshirepuddins list
I will get my CNI here in the UK then when we get to the British enbassy in Manila change my CNI for the local version (CENOMAR) do you know the cost for this..
from there to sumar present my papers and Maricris's papers to the registrar.

Yes this is correct...You need to take your CNI to the Embassy & then pick up the Philippine version from the Embassy the next day & then off to your local Registrars, to apply for the marriage license...Can't remember the cost off hand? :Erm:

keithAngel

7th February 2011, 00:31

cost 4666 piso:xxgrinning--00xx3:

YorkshirePuddin

7th February 2011, 02:38

My fiancés family lives in Baguio and I look fwd to meeting them. In my own experience AVOID the bcc but can only speak as I find!

Thanks again everyone for help and well wishes. Will keep you posted and expect immigration questions to follow... :)

Am happy to wed mahal ko! Yay!

YorkshirePuddin

7th February 2011, 02:39

keithAngel

7th February 2011, 02:45

Yes this is correct...You need to take your CNI to the Embassy & then pick up the Philippine version from the Embassy the next day & then off to your local Registrars, to apply for the marriage license...Can't remember the cost off hand? :Erm:

Except with out the certification from the seminar they wont accept the application:NoNo:

cost is 370 piso

Sim11UK

7th February 2011, 07:56

Except with out the certification from the seminar they wont accept the application:NoNo:

Not quite sure what you mean here Keith? :Erm: But yes, we applied for the license & then sorted the seminar etc. within the 10 days, except we didn't actually have to go through with the seminar. :)

keithAngel

7th February 2011, 08:25

City hall talisay and Balamban both wanted the seminar completed and the certificate "befor" they would accept the apllication:xxgrinning--00xx3:

plushsh

7th February 2011, 09:07

Not quite sure what you mean here Keith? :Erm: But yes, we applied for the license & then sorted the seminar etc. within the 10 days, except we didn't actually have to go through with the seminar. :)

Yes...i think some couple has avoided the seminar ;-) maybe you should consult your wedding organizers/planner or maybe get a good one:-)

steve monty

7th February 2011, 13:49

Not quite sure what you mean here Keith? :Erm: But yes, we applied for the license & then sorted the seminar etc. within the 10 days, except we didn't actually have to go through with the seminar. :)

We were the same, applied for the marriage license then did all the seminars in that 10 day time period. As long as all the paperwork is there when you go to get the marriage license, all will be fine. :)

Sim11UK

7th February 2011, 14:05

We were the same, applied for the marriage license then did all the seminars in that 10 day time period. As long as all the paperwork is there when you go to get the marriage license, all will be fine. :)

You have to remember though, you & me got married in the same city & used the same Registrars.
KeithAngel tells another story & it seems they have been a lot stricter in all proceedures where he is getting married.

...A cautionary tale here folks...make sure you are aware of the requirements of the particular area you are marrying, as they vary greatly & maybe different to information given here. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

keithAngel

8th February 2011, 02:22

Both places mentioned had a written list of requirements for the application to commence but as Sim says check in advance
The application for licence is hung for 10 days like our "Bans" and the issuing of it says that ALL paperwork required has been submitted so there is a certain logic involved.

As Ive said earlier interpretation of the rules can be a problem here in the Phils but the minimum we can do is prepare for what is written as requirements and adapt if we get thrown a curve ball.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

lykayu01

18th April 2011, 17:47

hello can i ask for a help for CNI application as my fiancee is a british national from northern,Ireland,UK so he will be getting his CNI in belfast... was it needed for him to have my birthcertificate and the reverends signature as we will get married civil here in philippines.......plz help....:Hellooo:

karenkeith

24th June 2011, 13:12

what is innoculations?>>

tanga

24th June 2011, 15:09

I've always wondered about the "family planning seminar" being compulsory, sometimes I read it is not compulsory beyond a specific age limit...........

An expat friend in his 60s was required to attend the seminar.I found it a bit insulting that he had to join the group of teenagers to discuss family planning methods but when in Rome...etc.etc
Mind you I find it slightly insulting that Filipinos are required to pass an English language test before their visa can be processed.