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belle29
13th January 2011, 15:26
Flr and ilr? And when should i apply for this?

Thank you

Terpe
13th January 2011, 19:22
FLR means Further Leave to Remain.
It is applicable for a limited expiry visa (such as a spouse visa) usually 27 months.
Prior to expiry you need to take actions or leave

ILR means Indefinite Leave to Remain
This is an unrestricted visa with no expiry and no constraints.

What is the reason for your question?

alanp
13th January 2011, 19:33
Hello Belle
if you come over on a fiance visa and get married over here in the uk you will have to apply for FLR visa (further leave to remain) so you can legally stay and work here after two years you will then have to apply for ILR visa (Indefinate leave to remain) where you will be allowed to stay in the uk permanetley (settle) free from immigration control.

I you came here on a settlement visa as you were married in the philippines you just have to apply for ILR after two years here

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/settlement/

i hope that helps

belle29
13th January 2011, 19:59
thank you very much guys!

joebloggs
13th January 2011, 22:53
ILR means Indefinite Leave to Remain
This is an unrestricted visa with no expiry and no constraints.


you cannot be out of the UK 2yrs years or more in one trip or you will lose your ILR :NoNo:

and you would have to apply for FLR instead or ILR in certain circumstances, like you couldn't pass the 'life in UK test b4 your current visa expired' or you came to the uk say 4 or 5 months after your spouse visa was issued.

belle29
14th January 2011, 00:34
My settlement visa was issued November 16 2010 Expired on February 13 2013, I come back in Uk November 28, 2010 when is the right time for me to apply for ILR? And also when do i need to take the Life in the Uk Test? How much is it?

I want to ask also about the Knowledge of Language test?When do i need to take the test? Is the UK Border will send me a mail to tell me where i can take the exam? how much it will cost me? I try the free test as well i got score for WRITING 77/85 LISTENING 150/250 AND READING 160/250, HOW IS IT? IS THE RESULT GOOD OR BAD?

Thank you very much for your time.:)

Terpe
14th January 2011, 09:58
belle29

The new requirement for English Language test was effective from 29th November 2010. If you applied for your spouse visa before this date (as in your case) then you do not need to undertake the language test.

Your FLR visa has been issued for a validity of 27 months (Nov 2010 to Feb 2013)
The qualifying period for ILR is 24 months living in UK
However, you are able to apply for ILR 28 days before the end of the qualifying period.

If you began living in UK on 28 November 2010, then you 24 months qualifying
period would 28 November 2012. The earliest that you ILR application is allowed
to be made is 28 days before 28 November 2012. So that is October 31 2012

Now, before applying for your ILR you will need to have a pass certificate for Life in UK test. You can take this test at anytime. You will need to book the test at a Test Centre near to you. The test currently costs £34. You can take this test as many times as is needed, but you must pass before applying for ILR.

Full details of the test are here:-
http://www.lifeintheuktest.gov.uk/

I would also suggest you review the requirements for ILR so that you can begin
preparations for some of the documentations that are required. Some of these documents need to cover the 2 year period leading up to the date of application.

Example of the ILR form look here:-
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/settlement/formsetm0420091.pdf

Example of the ILR guidance look here:-
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/settlement/guidesetm0420091.pdf

belle29
14th January 2011, 10:43
in my visa its say like this SETTLEMENT VISA SPOUSE(KOL REQUIRED) WHAT IS THIS MEAN? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP TERPE

Terpe
14th January 2011, 11:56
in my visa its say like this SETTLEMENT VISA SPOUSE(KOL REQUIRED) WHAT IS THIS MEAN? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP TERPE

Ok here is what UKBA state:-
Where an applicant has satisfied all of the requirements for Indefinite Leave to Enter (ILE),
except the KOL requirement, they should be granted 27 months Leave to Enter (LTE).
During this time they can, at any point, satisfy the KOL requirement in the UK and apply
for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR).

Source:-http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/settlement/knowledgeoflanguage#21490059

So it seems as soon as you have passed life in the uk test you may apply for ILR

Where did you apply for the visa? was it European area?

belle29
14th January 2011, 12:29
im from philippines terpe i apply in the philippines

Terpe
14th January 2011, 12:38
No probs Belle, I was just curious why you were issued with this type of visa and endorsement.
Did you live with your hubby outside of the UK for more than 4 years?

Looks to me like you can go ahead and start studying now. Once passed, apply for ILR at anytime. :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Better check the link yourself just to be sure.

belle29
14th January 2011, 13:24
yeah we been leaving together for 8 years outside uk and 5 years married with 3 boys 5,3,1 yrs old.

So is it for sure now that i dont need to take the KOL because i made my application before november 29?

Terpe
14th January 2011, 13:33
yeah we been leaving together for 8 years outside uk and 5 years married with 3 boys 5,3,1 yrs old.

So is it for sure now that i dont need to take the KOL because i made my application before november 29?

Belle KOL is not language test, it is Life in UK Test.
You do not need to take any language test.
The only test you need to take is Life in UK (KOL)
You can apply for ILR immediately you have passed the Life In UK Test.
No need to wait at all.
OK?

belle29
14th January 2011, 13:40
sorry im a bit confused so now i know that i dont need to take a test for knowledge of language. and so i have to take the life in the uk test any time i want, I thought i can only apply for ILR after i stay in Uk for 2 years? thank very much for a quick reply terpe

Terpe
14th January 2011, 13:52
sorry im a bit confused so now i know that i dont need to take a test for knowledge of language. and so i have to take the life in the uk test any time i want, I thought i can only apply for ILR after i stay in Uk for 2 years? thank very much for a quick reply terpe

Sorry if you are confused.
Your original question was related to the difference between FLR & ILR

However, it seems that the visa YOU have is a little bit different because you have been living together as a married couple for more than 4 years.
YOUR visa allows you entry as FLR for 27 months, BUT you have a special endorsement attached to your visa (KOL required). This means that you only need to pass Life in UK Test, then immediately you may apply for ILR.

Belle, please read the UKBA link I included before.
Here it is again :-
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/settlement/knowledgeoflanguage#21490059

Where an applicant has satisfied all of the requirements for Indefinite Leave to Enter (ILE),
except the KOL requirement, they should be granted 27 months Leave to Enter (LTE).
During this time they can, at any point, satisfy the KOL requirement in the UK and apply
for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR).

belle29
14th January 2011, 13:58
Thank you very much Terpe for your time i will read it all again and start reading the books about Life In the UK and review it many times thank you for all the imformation you share really appriciate it.:)