Apple

[aposhark]

Hi,

Does anyone on here use an Apple computer?

I have just had my socks blown off and my skirt blown up by an Apple demo at Curry's in Coventry.

I have been resisting them for years but feel they have me in their sights now :Help1:

You can dual-boot with Windows too.

Stunning and the extra cost seems worth it to me ;)

[stevewool]

do you wear a skirt when shopping, and whats the cost

[aposhark]

do you wear a skirt when shopping, and whats the cost

cost of what?

[Arthur Little]

Hi,

Does anyone on here use an Apple computer?

Stunning and the extra cost seems worth it to me ;)

Indeed ... an "Apple" a day, keeps the [computer] :dumbputer: bugs at bay!

[aposhark]

Which one do you have, Arthur?

[sars_notd_virus]

Apple


You can dual-boot with Windows too.

Stunning and the extra cost seems worth it to me ;)

APPLE...the price is stunning and outstanding as well:rolleyes:
my ACER net book can dual boot as well..and my hubby got it for £200:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[stevewool]

cost of what?

the apple:NoNo:

[Arthur Little]

Which one do you have, Arthur?

:Erm: ... Microsoft Windows Vista 'FLATRON L194WS'; being something of a "luddite", though, I'm none the wiser!

[aposhark]

the apple:NoNo:

I thought you were asking about the costs of offers related to the skirt I was wearing :icon_lol:

Approx £1000 for the Apple.

[aposhark]

:Erm: ... Microsoft Windows Vista 'FLATRON L194WS'; being something of a "luddite", though, I'm none the wiser!

I think that 'FLATRON L194WS' is a part in the CERN Large Hadron Collider :xxgrinning--00xx3:
You really are a dark horse, Arthur :)

[aposhark]

APPLE...the price is stunning and outstanding as well:rolleyes:
my ACER net book can dual boot as well..and my hubby got it for £200:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I agree there on point one, and point two looks like a bargain :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[raynaputi]

APPLE...the price is stunning and outstanding as well:rolleyes:
my ACER net book can dual boot as well..and my hubby got it for £200:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I have an Acer laptop too Mari, great specs and costs around £400...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I used to be attracted to an Apple laptop, with it's sleek design and all that...but the price is just not worth it...with the price like that, I can get 2 or even 3 laptops with the same quality or even better as that.

[aposhark]

I have an Acer laptop too Mari, great specs and costs around £400...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I used to be attracted to an Apple laptop, with it's sleek design and all that...but the price is just not worth it...with the price like that, I can get 2 or even 3 laptops with the same quality or even better as that.

One thing I found out today (which I should have known a long time ago) was that the Apple OS is based on UNIX, so if one thing starts mis-behaving, it will not cause the house of cards to fall down as is frequent in my experience, not matter how much RAM is on the Windows machine.

[gWaPito]

My Nokia 86 can dual boot, when its not corrupted. Nothing fancy there Standard fare of most pc's and smart phones.

[sars_notd_virus]

I have an Acer laptop too Mari, great specs and costs around £400...:xxgrinning--00xx3:



Yours is better Raynagirl:xxgrinning--00xx3:,..I left my ACER big one in the PH, the specs of my ACER aspire one netbook is not as brilliant but it does the job..has a normal 1.66 GHz and the big ones has got dual processor etc and more ram and better graphics card...

[sars_notd_virus]

One thing I found out today (which I should have known a long time ago) was that the Apple OS is based on UNIX, so if one thing starts mis-behaving, it will not cause the house of cards to fall down as is frequent in my experience, not matter how much RAM is on the Windows machine.

I guess all computers can be dual-booted or modified as Linux is built from on the same platform as UNIX

[gWaPito]

If I had the choice I would get the Apple. My son swears by them. I know other pc's can do the job at a much cheaper price but, its like saying, I'd prefer to have 3 Hyundai's rather than a top of the range BMW 7 Series. Thats the difference. You seem to spend a lot of time on it Apo. Just as well get the best :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Farmerg]

Apple now have a App store for there desktop & laptops, they claim to have over a thousand apps available.

[sars_notd_virus]

Apple's OS is closed and all apps have to be vetted by apple which gives stringent quality control but also limits creativity where as linux is an open system and lets the users chose which apps are best, so just go to Apple store and see how many apps are there then see how many apps are available for linux??

at the end of the day..''Each to their own'' they say..Have fun playing with your Apple Apo:):xxgrinning--00xx3:

[aposhark]

Apple's OS is closed and all apps have to be vetted by apple which gives stringent quality control but also limits creativity where as linux is an open system and lets the users chose which apps are best, so just go to Apple store and see how many apps are there then see how many apps are available for linux??

at the end of the day..''Each to their own'' they say..Have fun playing with your Apple Apo:):xxgrinning--00xx3:

Hi sars_notd_virus, I didn't type that I had an Apple yet, but I think I will get one soon.....

It was so fast to watch the demo today, it was like the same excitement I felt when I got my first pc laptop in the 80s (Hard drive 40 MB, mono screen etc)
She even brought up about 50 web pages and it was still stable :yikes:

These things are all personal choice, but I cannot understand why I didn't investigate this earlier. It used to seem to me that graphics peeps had Apples and everyone else had Windows.
Most businesses run Windows, but with dual boot Apple OS and Win 7, it looks good.
Design elements are amazing too.

[Farmerg]

There's an advantage to apple having a closed system, reliability.
Because Apple vet all the apps you get a lot less problems with crashing & software clashes.
I changed from widows xp to windows 7 about six months ago and I have found it a massive improvement, I have had vista but I bought a copy of xp after five weeks of constant problems. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot big time with vista but they got it right with windows 7.

[Terpe]

Just my personal opinion, but I do like apple products. They're sleek, smooth and super sexy. Lots of sensual feely touchy attractions. :)

On the pure 'mechanics' of performance and leading edge technology I can easily find better PC's for much less cost. (eg Sony)
Yeah, thats the problem with engineers. :NoNo:
Just my own opinion.
No Offence :D

[somebody]

Apples great in the Home but not so good when they get on to bigger networks from what I have seen and experienced. But I doubt that's a worry to you Apo :D

As they are "closed" don't expect especially while under warranty to have the chance to upgrade and fiddle as much as you can with a typical PC. But many prefer to leave as is anyway even if a PC so no great worry to most..


Do make sure what programs you use are available for most people that's not an issue for many now.

If its user friendliness you want then Apple is great but do check what PC you can get for the same money.

I know some have come back to PC's now Windows 7 is with us for various reasons but most of them are those who like to fiddle more with their puters:D

Also do make sure you have AV so often Linux and Mac users dont realise they are passing on Viruses which only affect PC's. Malware is now starting to affect Apples so be aware and careful:)

[aposhark]

Apples great in the Home but not so good when they get on to bigger networks from what I have seen and experienced. But I doubt that's a worry to you Apo :D

As they are "closed" don't expect especially while under warranty to have the chance to upgrade and fiddle as much as you can with a typical PC. But many prefer to leave as is anyway even if a PC so no great worry to most..


Do make sure what programs you use are available for most people that's not an issue for many now.

If its user friendliness you want then Apple is great but do check what PC you can get for the same money.

I know some have come back to PC's now Windows 7 is with us for various reasons but most of them are those who like to fiddle more with their puters:D

Also do make sure you have AV so often Linux and Mac users dont realise they are passing on Viruses which only affect PC's. Malware is now starting to affect Apples so be aware and careful:)

Thanks for the reply somebody :xxgrinning--00xx3:
The demo blew me away, but I am a tech (used to build pc desktops before, only for myself mindyou) and I always like to get my fingers dirty.
I asked if I could swap out the HDD later and was warned about warranty etc.
I may have to leave my fingers on the keyb only and just enjoy the iMac if and when I get one.
There are some good Apple forums so I will continue browsing.
One thing though, the store person told me that trojans/worms/viruses were not a problem with iMacs because of the OS. Is this true?

Thanks again :)

[somebody]

Thanks for the reply somebody :xxgrinning--00xx3:
The demo blew me away, but I am a tech (used to build pc desktops before, only for myself mindyou) and I always like to get my fingers dirty.
I asked if I could swap out the HDD later and was warned about warranty etc.
I may have to leave my fingers on the keyb only and just enjoy the iMac if and when I get one.
There are some good Apple forums so I will continue browsing.
One thing though, the store person told me that trojans/worms/viruses were not a problem with iMacs because of the OS. Is this true?

Thanks again :)

Sorry for the late reply Sir.

Malware is on the up with Apples for a number of reasons but normally far far safer than MS Windows as a rule.

I would advise you have anti virus protection and keep the OS updated etc

The percentage of apple devices out there is increasing and the type of nerds who write malware are not all happy with Apple both reasons why apple in the past as well as the design of the OS (which the newer Windows ie Vista and 7 mimic to a degree) helped stopped the spread of malware.

The new OS is out very soon so see what can be done about updates with the device you get. http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

If you like apple but dont need to be quite at the cutting edge of course that means often the older stock which is perfectly good maybe a little cheaper;)


Nothing wrong at all with Apple but be advised if you like to fiddle unless your well off they are not the devices for you as a rule.

For example we have many Apples at work which are rarely updated physically so have to be sidelined and updated as new OS versions come out eventually. While many older PC's are basically "Triggers broom" with nearly everything changed in them and allowed them to keep up with what is needed of them for a little longer..

Also if the PC will end up in Pinas as much of fellow users Tech equipment does will the apple be useful there in 3/4/5 years???

If you need any assistance or info on Apples just ask and I can enquire with our Apple Gurus at work.


PS a word about Apple marketing they take features which are sometimes brand new and some not so Brand new and hype them as amazing.
If you compare what is available elsewhere often you will go oh is that all. But that's what Apple do package things well whether it is unique and well designed or simply a function you would expect on a standard Device of its field.

All I say is make sure you stand back and see though the hype and see the facts.

[JimOttley]

I guess all computers can be dual-booted or modified as Linux is built from on the same platform as UNIX

No it is not built on the same platform, Linux was a "from the ground up" rewrite of a Unix Kernal by Linus Torvalds he did it as a personal project and released it free to the world to upgrade, it was such a good implementation of the ideals of Unix that it won great favour amongst the developer community.

Few people remember that Unix in those days (I mean the early 1990's) was extremely fragmented, there were many implementations including extremely cheap versions like Coherent and even Sco Unix could be got for acceptable money. IBM AIX was another matter and IBM were big with the IBM AS400 OS as an alternative midrange OS (somewhere between the mainframe and micro) in those days.

Linux is impressive, personally I make a living from Windows (wind woes :)) and Windows 7 is a very advanced OS and a big big improvement on Vista, personally my view is that you have to treat W7 really badly to get a big mess or disaster on your hands now, still happens but it's rare, it's a good OS.

Linux is not immune from disasters either but at least it's free for many good distros :)

[JimOttley]

Apples great in the Home but not so good when they get on to bigger networks from what I have seen and experienced. But I doubt that's a worry to you Apo :D


Yep add to "home" the design specialists, the arty types, many photographers and yes the Apple platform gives them what they want they way they want it.

It's good!

[somebody]

Yep add to "home" the design specialists, the arty types, many photographers and yes the Apple platform gives them what they want they way they want it.

It's good!

True I forget to mention the Graphic departments and meddiiiaaa types:D

But not impressed by Apples networking capabilites on a large scale but hardly what apo is gonna worry about :D



The new apples do away with disc's it seems the appstore marches on... Again some people like the way the apple eco system is heading while others may find it not to their taste :)

[somebody]

No it is not built on the same platform, Linux was a "from the ground up" rewrite of a Unix Kernal by Linus Torvalds he did it as a personal project and released it free to the world to upgrade, it was such a good implementation of the ideals of Unix that it won great favour amongst the developer community.

Few people remember that Unix in those days (I mean the early 1990's) was extremely fragmented, there were many implementations including extremely cheap versions like Coherent and even Sco Unix could be got for acceptable money. IBM AIX was another matter and IBM were big with the IBM AS400 OS as an alternative midrange OS (somewhere between the mainframe and micro) in those days.

Linux is impressive, personally I make a living from Windows (wind woes :)) and Windows 7 is a very advanced OS and a big big improvement on Vista, personally my view is that you have to treat W7 really badly to get a big mess or disaster on your hands now, still happens but it's rare, it's a good OS.

Linux is not immune from disasters either but at least it's free for many good distros :)

I know many open sources fans who are almost miffed with how good windows 7 is:D

Also noticed that many are starting to will ms on agaisnt the former idols of many techies apple and google who have kind of become ms like monsters themsleves:rolleyes:

[aposhark]

Hi somebody :Wave:

Thanks for the reply, I may ask you something at a later date but we are house-hunting and will see how the money looks in a few months.

I was amazed at how easily the demo lady merged video clips, stills, music into a larger format which could be burnt to dvd for family members.
She also brought up 50 web pages and it didn't crash.

I don't think Windows 7 could do this with the same amount of RAM.

Thanks again.

[gWaPito]

Pink Ladies every time, after that first taste you will never buy any other brand of apple ;) You know it makes sense :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[ThomasWilson]

Apple computers are more expensive than their competitors.

[aposhark]

Apple computers are more expensive than their competitors.

Hi,

I was told by many Currys/PC World sales people in different towns that the increased cost will be amply repaid by the longevity of the product.

[somebody]

Hi,

I was told by many Currys/PC World sales people in different towns that the increased cost will be amply repaid by the longevity of the product.

Apple do have normally quick decent bulid quality and will normally be very good with the warranty and sorting things.

But where it fell down for me was the Currys/PC world sales people bit. After telling you it last for a long time often the next line would be you need the extended warranty or whatever they are trying to sell.

Due to the small about of models apple create over the years compared to MS PC's often its much easier for them to gurantee to a degree they will run the latest OS.
Basically only intel core 2 duo processors are supported (ie older devices may work but apple wont help you if there is any problems~) so any thing from about mid 2006 onwards should work Apple are saying. Possibly older high spec devices will run Lion but at your own risk..

With windows 7 its more complicated at launch the below was the minimum specs

1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 GB of RAM (32-bit)/2 GB of RAM (64-bit)
16 GB of available disk space (32-bit)/20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with Windows Display Driver Model 1.0 or higher driver

But then it depended what you were expecting to do with windows 7 ie xp mode etc then you need more power and memory normally.

So some devices which I have seen windows 7 is running on can be quite old, 2004/2005 models. Again typically desktop PC's seem to be easier to upgrade than desktop Mac's so that can prolong desktops sometime for years if not required for anything to intensive processingwise.

Laptops how much you can upgrade the memory and HDD's will vary from model to model.


I think you need to consider how long you hope to keep the device (in your household and possibly then handed on to Phill) of course in 5 years much may change in IT.

One point about the very new Apples is they have no DVD/Blu ray reader now some people wont care but if you like to load on your own films or music or have backups of pictures or other data how will you read them?
You may need possibly to add on the price of a external drive or first convert to a usb drive or flash card on a Drive equipped device.

Also Apple are very quickly moving towards the app store as a medium for all its devices seeing as its such a large cash cow already.. For some this is great all data in one place for others its a little bit to controlling and rigid. Microsoft would love to do but I think the MS market is to big and fragmented to shift over to this sort of format anytime soon.

[aposhark]

Hi Somebody,
Thanks for the reply.
Your posts are intriguing, enough to make me research a little more.
I found this http://www.macworld.com/product/343881/apple_27inch_imac_core_i5266ghz.html:
I was also shown by a PC World bod (who has a Macbook laptop) how to control the iMac with an iPhone :yikes: )
Of course I still don't have an iMac :Cuckoo:

Apple 27-inch iMac Core i5/2.66GHz
Pros
Amazingly fast Core i7 option
New SD card slot
Improved speaker system
Great image quality from display at any angle
Impressive speed
Cons
Apple Remote not included
Glare and reflections from screen may frustrate some users
FireWire 400 peripherals require an adapter
Bottom Line
With the 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac (not to mention the build-to-order 2.8GHz Core i7 model), Apple has blurs the line between consumer and professional systems. The 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac offers faster performance at most tasks than the 2.66GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro. The Core i5 iMac also has more memory and more storage space than that Mac Pro, while costing $500 less. Unless you absolutely require additional PCI cards, multiple internal hard drives, or a lot of RAM, the Core i5 iMac makes a strong case for the being the go-to system for most Mac professionals.