*** Immigration crackdown?? ***

[Jimbojac]

Camerons speech today started alarm bells ringing in my mind for a future chance for my future Filipina wife entering the country:angry:, comments anyone?

[KeithD]

It won't effect your future wife. However he is doing the right thing. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

Never crack down on the right people. :rolleyes:

Idiots.

[gWaPito]

I got much confidence in our illustrious leadership doing the business kicking out and stopping the flow of human garbage ever breaching our shores again.

The blue birds will be flying over the white cliffs of Dover once again.

[Dedworth]

It's high time that the tide of human effluent and n'er do wells was halted. The authorities need to be dealing with the scum that have already breached our borders starting with this oxygen waster http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/30769-Court-of-Appeal-allows-excrement-to-remain-in-UK

[joebloggs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13083781

In recent years there has also grown up a thriving industry of bogus colleges, providing bogus qualifications as cover for bogus visas.

[grahamw48]

I can't believe how naive our govts are.

Such corrupt practices are the norm in so many of the countries where these criminal parasites originate from...also violent demonstrations, inter-tribal disputes, political and religious extremism, a culture of cheating, etc etc.

Why are we expected to meekly tolerate these scumbags now in our midst, including all their trouble-making leaders, banished from their own countries, and 'welcomed' here ?

Let them sort their own mess out ! :cwm23:


Our forefathers and mothers didn't spend hundreds of years creating a fair (in most cases) and just democracy for it to be infiltrated and soiled by some of the lowest forms of life on the planet.

A crystal clear stream muddied and polluted by just a small amount of toxic pollution.

Tragic. :NoNo:

[Dedworth]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13083781








An Indian organisation which helps people get student visas has put up a massive billboard in that country.

It's got a picture of London bus and the words 'Get a Free Ride to the UK' emblazoned across it.[/I]

At passport control Heathrow Airport there is a similar huge billboard of the bus etc with "Get a free ride in the UK" emblazoned across it. :D

[KeithD]

.....starting with this oxygen waster http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/30769-Court-of-Appeal-allows-excrement-to-remain-in-UK

That links to Nigel's profile :laugher:

[keithAngel]

a culture of cheating, etc etc.

Why are we expected to meekly tolerate these scumbags now in our midst, including all their trouble-making leaders, banished from their own countries, and 'welcomed' here ?

Let them sort their own mess out ! :cwm23:


Our forefathers and mothers didn't spend hundreds of years creating a fair (in most cases) and just democracy for it to be infiltrated and soiled by some of the lowest forms of life on the planet.

A crystal clear stream muddied and polluted by just a small amount of toxic pollution.

Tragic. :NoNo:

Crystal clear stream ,what pretty words , I seem to remember though we exported our fair and just ideals in many far away places and were universaly loved and revered wonder why thats not reflected in our experience today?

A culture of cheating could well be a good description for the Fils is that what you meant?:Erm:

[grahamw48]

Crystal clear stream ,what pretty words , I seem to remember though we exported our fair and just ideals in many far away places and were universaly loved and revered wonder why thats not reflected in our experience today?

A culture of cheating could well be a good description for the Fils is that what you meant?:Erm:


Anything constructive to add ?....preferably in English, and if you're going to quote my post, kindly quote it in full. :rolleyes:

[Dedworth]

Anything constructive to add ?....preferably in English, and if you're going to quote my post, kindly quote it in full. :rolleyes:

No he was busy wringing his hands before rushing out for the daily tree hug

[KeithD]

Anything constructive to add ?....preferably in English, and if you're going to quote my post, kindly quote it in full. :rolleyes:

I didn't understand a word of what he said either :Erm:

[grahamw48]

No he was busy wringing his hands before rushing out for the daily tree hug

:laugher:

I DO try to be friendly and polite, but it seems some people just want a fight. :NoNo:

[Dedworth]

I didn't understand a word of what he said either :Erm:

I think it needs to be looked at along the lines of the evil of British Colonialism, apologising for slavery etc

[grahamw48]

Normal knee-jerk reaction/sound-bite instead of contributing something sensible to the CURRENT subject being discussed. :rolleyes:

Most of us studied history at school.

I feel no guilt, and why should I ?

Let's also LEARN from the past.

[Tawi2]

the evil of British Colonialism, apologising for slavery
Inherited guilt again:rolleyes:If thats the case every single ethnicity on the face of the planet except perhaps the inuits should be burdened somewhere along the line:rolleyes:

[gWaPito]

Crystal clear stream ,what pretty words , I seem to remember though we exported our fair and just ideals in many far away places and were universaly loved and revered wonder why thats not reflected in our experience today?

A culture of cheating could well be a good description for the Fils is that what you meant?:Erm:

I like universally :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Walaytawo]

I don't remember being taught much about British Colonialism in history, it was mostly about our noble royal family and how we defeated the evil Nazis :rolleyes:

[gWaPito]

I don't remember being taught much about British Colonialism in history, it was mostly about our noble royal family and how we defeated the evil Nazis :rolleyes:

Thanks to blairs mismanagement of controlling our borders, our country antisemitism is on the rise.

Like others have rightly said, we got the dregs of the planet entering and bleeding our once proud country, Great Britain.

[Walaytawo]

Thanks to blairs mismanagement of controlling our borders, our country antisemitism is on the rise.

Justifiably so. Like others have rightly said, we got the dregs of the planet entering and bleeding our once proud country, Great Britain.

I'm not sure how you made that connection :Erm: I think Jews are way down on the list if you ask people who they don't want entering the country. Maybe I've been away too long.

[gWaPito]

I'm not sure how you made that connection :Erm: I think Jews are way down on the list if you ask people who they don't want entering the country. Maybe I've been away too long.

Looks like you missed some history lessons.
All who were different from the ' normal' were ousted.

Ukip and the likes are having a field day thanks to blair.

[Walaytawo]

:Erm::Erm: History? Blair wasn't that long ago :icon_lol:


Thanks to blairs mismanagement of controlling our borders, our country antisemitism is on the rise.

Have you got a link to back up this claim that antisemitism is on the rise?

[grahamw48]

I think a few gravestones were kicked over a while back.

I believe it was in an area largely populated by muslims though. :Erm:

[Dedworth]

:Erm::Erm: History? Blair wasn't that long ago :icon_lol:



Have you got a link to back up this claim that antisemitism is on the rise?

If you have access to Google put in "UK Anti-semitism" this comes 2nd from the top

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12350913

A Jewish charity which monitors acts of anti-Semitism in the UK says it recorded 639 incidents of violence, threats and abuse last year.

The figure, from the Community Security Trust, is the second highest since it began its work in 1984.

[Walaytawo]

Not the muslamic infidels :omg: The EDL will sort em out!

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[Walaytawo]

If you have access to Google put in "UK Anti-semitism" this comes 2nd from the top

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12350913

A Jewish charity which monitors acts of anti-Semitism in the UK says it recorded 639 incidents of violence, threats and abuse last year.

The figure, from the Community Security Trust, is the second highest since it began its work in 1984.

Yeh we get google out here too :xxgrinning--00xx3: See the video I posted above. Only goes to show that many of the UK's youth have to read a few Daily Mail stories and they're up for the 'off :cwm3: It's your own mainstream media fuelling this :doh

Stage 3 of the other video I posted which you nodded off during - destabilization.

[Tawi2]

Muslamic infidels putting iraqi laws down in London:Erm:I think that geezers either punch drunk or been on the pop,either way he shouldnt be allowed out on his own without parental supervision:laugher:

[KeithD]

A Jewish charity which monitors acts of anti-Semitism in the UK says it recorded 639 incidents of violence, threats and abuse last year.



Well that's a very small amount compared to Catholics/Protestants who in N.Ireland, they tend to blow each other up rather than kicking over gravestones, and I reckon 1000's are arrested a year in Glasgow alone for beating the crap out of each.

On top of that I'd never believe stats from a charity that is sponsored by the same people it is reporting on .... you may find a bias ;) :icon_lol:

[Dedworth]

Well that's a very small amount compared to Catholics/Protestants who in N.Ireland, they tend to blow each other up rather than kicking over gravestones, and I reckon 1000's are arrested a year in Glasgow alone for beating the crap out of each.

On top of that I'd never believe stats from a charity that is sponsored by the same people it is reporting on .... you may find a bias ;) :icon_lol:

:iagree:

I only posted it cos Wallytawo lobbed the overused "Have you got a link to back up this claim" at Gwapito

[keithAngel]

Anything constructive to add ?....preferably in English, and if you're going to quote my post, kindly quote it in full. :rolleyes:



Such corrupt practices are the norm in so many of the countries where these criminal parasites originate from...also violent demonstrations, inter-tribal disputes, political and religious extremism, a culture of cheating, etc etc.




I was sugesting this part of your statement could perfectly describe the Fils just need to add kidnapping

not looking for a fight just challenging you to think about your generalisations of course most of the above are male traits:rolleyes:

[grahamw48]

My post was open to (reasonable) interpretation by someone of average intelligence and common sense, as I haven't the time to go to the far end of a fart on every point.

If the cap fits, etc. :)

[Dedworth]

My post was open to (reasonable) interpretation by someone of average intelligence and common sense, as I haven't the time to go to the far end of a fart on every point.

If the cap fits, etc. :)

Maybe the insomnia makes him post nonsense - slumped over a keyboard out there at 3 & 4 O'Clock in the morning :D

[gWaPito]

:iagree:

I only posted it cos Wallytawo lobbed the overused "Have you got a link to back up this claim" at Gwapito

Brothers in arms :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[les_taxi]

Now I love to join in these issues but I start reading keithangles posts and I start to wonder what the hell I'm reading :Cuckoo:Talk about going off in tangents:Erm:

[gWaPito]

Now I love to join in these issues but I start reading keithangles posts and I start to wonder what the hell I'm reading :Cuckoo:Talk about going off in tangents:Erm:
Yes, I noticed that too. Perhaps he's sniffing the same stuff as Nigel.
Did you notice his last post on Nigel's religious gem?

[les_taxi]

It's torture on my eyes:icon_lol:

[Jimbojac]

Jeez folks, talk about my original post going " off topic" oh well we are gonna do everything the right way and hopefully some amount of justice and sanity will prevail and an honest, hard working human will be added to Britains fair shores!

[gWaPito]

Jeez folks, talk about my original post going " off topic" oh well we are gonna do everything the right way and hopefully some amount of justice and sanity will prevail and an honest, hard working human will be added to Britains fair shores!

I hope you are right but, I wouldn't hold your breath Jim

[KeithD]

I only posted it cos Wallytawo lobbed the overused "Have you got a link to back up this claim" at Gwapito

...and a few Israeli's been beaten is a much better outcome than the way they treat Palestinians. Worldwide assassination without a care of the consequences, bombing women and children, treating the Palestinians no better than the Nazi treated the jews in the ghetto, attacking ships of no threat to Israel, and on the list goes :NoNo:

[bornatbirth]

i had to read this thread twice as some of the posts were exactly what i was thinking.....

btw what do i need to do to get in dedworths gang :D

[Walaytawo]

btw what do i need to do to get in dedworths gang :D

Believe everything the Daily Mail prints :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

Believe everything the Daily Mail prints :xxgrinning--00xx3:

If it were all lies and nonsense, these types of newspapers would of been taken out of business years ago.

The fact is, they haven't. What does that tell you?

[Walaytawo]

If it were all lies and nonsense, these types of newspapers would of been taken out of business years ago.

The fact is, they haven't. What does that tell you?

People are gullible :D It's not that it's all lies - nonsense maybe - it's there to induce certain ways of thinking.

Todays headlines:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377412/Dr-Philip-Nitschke-gives-euthanasia-workshop-video-14-year-olds.html

Enough to make any parent angry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1377317/Slow-Emma-21-Ms-Watson-looks-frumpy-time-video-birthday-message-fans.html

Lets judge somebody on their looks and then bitch about it.

Here's a classic brain-dead story about a brain-dead TV show

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1377000/X-Factors-Joe-McElderry-dumped-Simon-Cowell-16-months.html

Does this kind of rubbish reflect what the nation's interested in :Erm:

If people are so gullible lets at least give them something positive to absorb :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

Believe everything the Daily Mail prints :xxgrinning--00xx3:

:yikes: people still buy newspapers

I've not bought a newspaper for many years, but i do flick thru the metro free newspaper.

[KeithD]

The fact is, they haven't. What does that tell you?

People will believe and read any crap :doh ..... most of use read Nigel's posts.... WHY???? :crazy: :Cuckoo:

Since 1986 the only papers I've bought are the Sporting Life or Racing Post :)

[grahamw48]

I only buy newspapers in the Phils, because they're so funny. :)

[keithAngel]

And good for expanding your use of English:icon_lol:

[gWaPito]

And good for expanding your use of English:icon_lol:

In that case, I'd suggest you start reading them:) it may also improve your spelling :)

You know it makes sense :)

[keithAngel]

We are talking about Fils papers gwap?:icon_lol:

[gWaPito]

People are gullible :D It's not that it's all lies - nonsense maybe - it's there to induce certain ways of thinking.

Todays headlines:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377412/Dr-Philip-Nitschke-gives-euthanasia-workshop-video-14-year-olds.html

Enough to make any parent angry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1377317/Slow-Emma-21-Ms-Watson-looks-frumpy-time-video-birthday-message-fans.html

Lets judge somebody on their looks and then bitch about it.

Here's a classic brain-dead story about a brain-dead TV show

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1377000/X-Factors-Joe-McElderry-dumped-Simon-Cowell-16-months.html

Does this kind of rubbish reflect what the nation's interested in :Erm:

If people are so gullible lets at least give them something positive to absorb :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I dont buy papers. I read the many at my place of work.

Where do you suggest we look for reliable, unbiased news?

T heBBc maybe? I dont think so.

There must be many ivory towers out there for a minority of you to disagree with what the majority of newspapers say about immigration.

Im not talking about the Saturday night crap tv and those fake Gods of celebrity. That, we can agree on.

Lets not put on superior aires, it only gets peoples backs up, including mine.

[gWaPito]

We are talking about Fils papers gwap?:icon_lol:
Oh, you were being sarcastic. Sorry Keith. There was me thinking it was being directed over here.

T hat would explain why the cap doesn't fit :icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[aposhark]

Does anyone have a link to the changes that the government suggests to curtail immigration?

I thought most immigrants were from EEC countries.

Most people I have met over the past five years or so have told me they are angry with the amount of Eastern Europeans that have moved here for work.

[Dedworth]

Does anyone have a link to the changes that the government suggests to curtail immigration?

I thought most immigrants were from EEC countries.

Most people I have met over the past five years or so have told me they are angry with the amount of Eastern Europeans that have moved here for work.

Under Labour 3.2 million foreign citizens arrived in Britain, about 80% from outside the EU
- figures here

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pdfs/MWK001-Migration-UK-report_Print.pdf

Figures not taken from The Daily Mail but ONS and Home Office statistics

[bornatbirth]

how many have turned up with the current goverment :Erm:

[Dedworth]

how many have turned up with the current goverment :Erm:

:icon_lol:Hardly a relevant comment after the floodgates were deliberately opened and the red carpet rolled out for 13 years

[bornatbirth]

:icon_lol:Hardly a relevant comment after the floodgates were deliberately opened and the red carpet rolled out for 13 years

simply question dedworth, do you know the answer so we can compare numbers :D

[Dedworth]

simply question dedworth, do you know the answer so we can compare numbers :D

No I don't - they've been in Government for 10 months so I doubt if the figures are available but I doubt if they are the same horror story as the future vote rigging socialist years

[bornatbirth]

why do you say that, they havent changed anything yet have they.....so the numbers must be the same..would you like a gentlemens bet on it :D

[grahamw48]

The shame of it is that it's the damned lying cheating illegals/arranged/fake marriage/fake college scumbags who've made it increasingly difficult and expensive for people from the GENUINE indigenous population to bring their fiancees/spouses into the country, or even god forbid...have someone VISIT them from outside the PAIN IN THE BACKSIDE EU, or whatever it's calling itself this week. :cwm23:

[bornatbirth]

The shame of it is that it's the damned lying cheating illegals/arranged/fake marriage/fake college scumbags who've made it increasingly difficult and expensive for people from the GENUINE indigenous population to bring their fiancees/spouses into the country, or even god forbid...have someone VISIT them from outside the PAIN IN THE BACKSIDE EU, or whatever it's calling itself this week. :cwm23:

it doesnt help, can you really blame the government for letting people who will go on to break the law into the country :Erm:

[grahamw48]

The word 'profiling' comes to mind.

Oops...I fear there may be some common sense involved there.

Obviously that's out of the question, as the sensibilities of the PC brigade will be ruffled.

The same whining fools who have progressively neutered this country's most important asset ....free-thinking and freedom of expression, once enjoyed by the majority of the population, in favour of one abnormal or over-sensitive minority group or another. :rolleyes:

[KeithD]

Well we have plenty of proof the new government has cracked down on sham marriages :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

True.

Their next job is to rid us of the half million or more illegals currently skulking around the country. :angry:

[gWaPito]

The word 'profiling' comes to mind.

Oops...I fear there may be some common sense involved there.

Obviously that's out of the question, as the sensibilities of the PC brigade will be ruffled.

The same whining fools who have progressively neutered this country's most important asset ....free-thinking and freedom of expression, once enjoyed by the majority of the population, in favour of one abnormal or over-sensitive minority group or another. :rolleyes:

I wonder if they were the same fools who banned the golliewog?

[keithAngel]

Still got your badges?:xxgrinning--00xx3:

http://www.golliwogg.co.uk/robertsons.htm

[les_taxi]

The claim that Golliwogs are racist is supported by literary depictions by writers such as Enid Blyton. Unlike Florence Upton's, Blyton's Golliwogs were often rude, mischievous, elfin villains. In Blyton's book, "Here Comes Noddy Again", a Golliwog asks the hero for help, then steals his car :icon_lol: Must have been a scouser golliwog:D

[gWaPito]

Still got your badges?:xxgrinning--00xx3:

http://www.golliwogg.co.uk/robertsons.htm
I did have until one of the ex's decided to put them in the bin. I wasn't very impressed I can tell you.

They were dispatched along with my 1970 esso world cup coins.

[gWaPito]

The claim that Golliwogs are racist is supported by literary depictions by writers such as Enid Blyton. Unlike Florence Upton's, Blyton's Golliwogs were often rude, mischievous, elfin villains. In Blyton's book, "Here Comes Noddy Again", a Golliwog asks the hero for help, then steals his car :icon_lol: Must have been a scouser golliwog:D

Do you mean the one off of ' fools and horses' ?
H efitted that description.

[keithAngel]

I did have until one of the ex's decided to put them in the bin. I wasn't very impressed I can tell you.

They were dispatched along with my 1970 esso world cup coins.

You can still get them look on the link when your home:xxgrinning--00xx3:

In 1999 a Robertson spokesperson said, "He's still very popular. Each year we get more than 340,000 requests for Golly badges. Since 1910 we have sent out more than 20 million." Serious Robertson's collectors may have thousands of Golly badges in their collections. Nevertheless,Robertson's Golly badges still remain highly collectable, with the very rarest sometimes selling for more than £1,000, and even comparatively common and recent badges being worth £2.00–£3.00.

[Jimbojac]

Now for a bit of " back on topic".............. What really [Please do not circumvent the swear filter. It is a public forum. - Admin] me off is that poppy burning scum are in Britain filling up the welfare offices and their bank accounts with hard working British tax payers money whilst genuine people wanna come here, contribute and be an asset to their newly adopted society {ie moral Pinays}
{ Rant over Folks but i aint telling you something you don't know huh!} :doh

[keithAngel]

Good and Bad from everywhere;)

[Walaytawo]

Now for a bit of " back on topic".............. What really [Please do not circumvent the swear filter. It is a public forum. - Admin] me off is that poppy burning scum are in Britain filling up the welfare offices and their bank accounts with hard working British tax payers money whilst genuine people wanna come here, contribute and be an asset to their newly adopted society {ie moral Pinays}
{ Rant over Folks but i aint telling you something you don't know huh!} :doh

No swearing :Erm: But religious bigotry, jokes on Thalidomide and nuking countries is fine :crazy:

[KeithD]

No swearing :Erm: But religious bigotry, jokes on Thalidomide and nuking countries is fine :crazy:

Those subjects are debatable by adults. Swearing is not, it is straight in your face, and blatant disrespect to everyone.

[grahamw48]

Why are 'non-believers' bigots ? :Erm:

What awful evil people we are....well, got to be. :rolleyes:

[keithAngel]

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animosity) toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, inter-regional prejudice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice), gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders and religion or spirituality. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology) or world views (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[KeithD]

No swearing :Erm: But religious bigotry, jokes on Thalidomide and nuking countries is fine :crazy:

Yeah ... disgusting ... although some folk wil find them 'armless :rolleyes:

[grahamw48]

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animosity) toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, inter-regional prejudice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice), gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders and religion or spirituality. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology) or world views (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Ah, that must be me then.

Funny that...I thought it was a derogatory term, but turns out it's someone with a mind of their own. :Erm:

[les_taxi]

:icon_lol:Bring back Gollywogs

[les_taxi]

There are many black men in Britain who would take exception to that post and your life would probably take a turn for the worse :NoNo:

I don't know if you are thoughtless or racist, either way that is dangerous :doh:crazy:

Get a life aposhark and grow a pair:NoNo:
You are boring we all know where your loyalties lie,go burn some Poppies:icon_lol:

[Dedworth]

There are many black men in Britain who would take exception to that post and your life would probably take a turn for the worse :NoNo:

I don't know if you are thoughtless or racist, either way that is dangerous :doh:crazy:

Here we go again with the R word - I propose this for Moronic Post of The Week Award

[les_taxi]

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081230093747AAoIzgO

Read this oh pc shark.
It is not illegal to sday the word gollywog,to sell or own them.

I'm now going to say Blackboard,baa baa black sheep ooooo what you going to do now.

[joebloggs]

:NoNo:
come on you guys, your bickering is :censored: people off :cwm24:

give it a rest pls :angry:

[les_taxi]

I'm having a fair arguament with the main Protagonist on this site while spending ages setting up a pop quiz:D

[KeithD]

People's post will be going on the moderation list soon.

[gWaPito]

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animosity) toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, inter-regional prejudice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice), gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders and religion or spirituality. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology) or world views (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

:xxgrinning--00xx3:
And that perfectly describes your mate.

Its got nothing to do with his beliefs. Its his forthright, uncompromising views.

[les_taxi]

Too detached from this country love to take him to Bradford:icon_lol:

[Pete/London]

Post 80 and 81 include a quote from Aposhark that does not appear in the thread ?

Has it been removed ?

[grahamw48]

Noticed that too. :Erm:

I'll have a go at religion but NOT colour.

That HAS to be a no-no on this forum (and anywhere for that matter). :NoNo:

[gWaPito]

Noticed that too. :Erm:

I'll have a go at religion but NOT colour.

That HAS to be a no-no on this forum (and anywhere for that matter). :NoNo:

I expect he deleted it himself. I dont know anyone who or was offended by golly.

He was everywhere in my childhood. When he was taken from us, that was my first experience of the world going mad.

I see the police snipers are taking over key vantage points on the Royal wedding day.

All due to threats to cause disruption. This time they will be crushed, the no nonsense British public will not stand for it.

You can guess what mob are involved. The same ones who allow teachers to beat there kids senseless then aim thereouhatred at the same people who feed and clothe them (via the broken welfare system) us, the British.

I drove through Aylesbury today on the A 41. On entry and exit there was ukip banners everywhere. Outside family pubs, in peoples gardens, it was a shocking sight.

Im all for tougher immigration controls but, not to the extent of what ukip plan to impose if they ever gained power.

[keithAngel]

And that perfectly describes your mate.

Its got nothing to do with his beliefs. Its his forthright, uncompromising views.

I only said Deadworth was the member Id most like to meet Gwap not that we were mates:icon_lol:

[Pete/London]

I see the police snipers are taking over key vantage points on the Royal wedding day.

All due to threats to cause disruption. This time they will be crushed, the no nonsense British public will not stand for it.

You can guess what mob are involved. The same ones who allow teachers to beat there kids senseless then aim thereouhatred at the same people who feed and clothe them (via the broken welfare system) us, the British.



I was taught by them at school, they were awful and spiteful,

thank God there are not a lot of Irish nuns teaching anymore :rolleyes:

[fred]

short speech from Winston Churchill,
>> delivered by him in 1899

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its
votaries!
>> Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
>> hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
>> effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly
>> systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
>> of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
>> A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement,
>> the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
>> every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
>> as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
>> slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
>> men.
>> Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
>> No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being
>> moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has
>> already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at
>> every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
>> strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly
>> struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the
>> civilization of ancient Rome."
>>
>> Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol.II,
>> pages 248-50 London )

[Jimbojac]

Ahhh sorry if i offended with the ** in place of a known swear word i honestly did not know the rules here, sorry.:NoNo:

[aposhark]

short speech from Winston Churchill,
>> delivered by him in 1899

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its
votaries!
>> Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
>> hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
>> effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly
>> systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
>> of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
>> A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement,
>> the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
>> every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
>> as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
>> slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
>> men.
>> Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
>> No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being
>> moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has
>> already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at
>> every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
>> strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly
>> struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the
>> civilization of ancient Rome."
>>
>> Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol.II,
>> pages 248-50 London )

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

[aposhark]

Who deleted my post?

Explain the reason.

[fred]

Who deleted my post?

Explain the reason.

What post?

[Ako Si Jamie]

The religious one. :icon_lol:

[les_taxi]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

He is entitled to post what he likes:Erm:
Never stopped you:icon_lol:

[joebloggs]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

aposhark dont tell me someone can't post quotes from one of the most famous Brits of all time, what part of it offends you ?

[fred]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[les_taxi]

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Totally agree one of the greatest men of his time:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.


now i do agree with that, but for all religions, they've done more damage than good :NoNo:

Catholic priest on a mission to convert as many as he can to Christianity meets an Eskimo and explains Jesus christ to him:

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why the hell did you tell me?"
:doh

[grahamw48]

now i do agree with that, but for all religions, they've done more damage than good :NoNo:

Catholic priest on a mission to convert as many as he can to Christianity meets an Eskimo and explains Jesus christ to him:

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why the hell did you tell me?"
:doh

Hahaha ! :icon_lol: Well put.

It is good to have some knowledge of religious beliefs though, because then you can be on your guard against the brainwashing.

Invasion of the bodysnatchers is the way I see it. :omg:

[Walaytawo]

Hahaha ! :icon_lol: Well put.

It is good to have some knowledge of religious beliefs though, because then you can be on your guard against the brainwashing.

All forms of brainwashing? Doesn't seem to be much of a detterent against media mind control :rolleyes:

[aposhark]

What post?

The post that was copied into post #80

[aposhark]

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I am an admirer of Winston Churchill too.
I just fail to see what relevance that post had to do with anything.
It was old and reflected the times then, not now in our multi-cultural society :NoNo:

[fred]

The post that was copied into post #80

I have no idea what happened to it..
Gremlins I expect.

[fred]

I am an admirer of Winston Churchill too.
I just fail to see what relevance that post had to do with anything.
It was old and reflected the times then, not now in our multi-cultural society :NoNo:


Never felt I witnessed a true multi cultural society develop in the way it was presented to us in the late 70`s and 80`s.. Only cities divided by racially segregated towns.. :NoNo:
Our old family`s house in North London contained the last white family in our street that were prepared to put up with other culture being stuffed down their throats day in day out.
Last time I had a look for old times sake the place looked like a Nigerian and Asian ghetto.
Even the Jamaican s and Italians had left!!
So much for racial integration!
We moved into the suburbs where I must admit the multi cultural experiment seemed to be working a little more efficiently and people of all cultures seemed to mix more readily..
Quite a few Asians,Africans,Indians along with indigenous locals that all seemed to get on really well..
Now as a community they are all moaning together about the European open border policies,Illegal immigrants and just about every subject that causes friction around the country..(and this forum)

Personally,I no longer give a toss as I have no longer a reason to complain and whine...
I`m long gone and I have no intention of going back.
Since living here I have had much time to reflect,and the speech above is very relevant..To me anyway..

As a foreigner here in the Philippines,I always give the up most respect to my hosts and in turn,the locals always seem happy and appreciative to see how easily I have integrated into their culture.
This is not the case however with every foreigner that has moved here over the years...
Filipino`s have various methods of dealing with that type of guest..Im sure you would disapprove.

Im not here to agree or disagree or argue with you or anyone else about the views I have formed over the years about any subject and thus my last post in this thread..

Cheers... Fred.

(moderation duties excluded)

[Walaytawo]

A multi-cultural society only works when those coming from abroad want to integrate. Sadly, in the UK this is not the case a lot of the time.