about savings in bank statement

[jeanelovesdeano]

hi everyone

i would like to ask regarding of the savings put in the bank for visa application.

Is the ECO really verified the savings, or ask the bank the the amount of money that you have put the bank provided that you submit them the latest bank statement?

hope to hear from you..thanks

[Toneec]

Hi Jeanelovesdeano
I think it would depend on the bank statements. If they show regular savings over a decent period of time,They prefer 6 months, but I have seen as little as 3 months being accepted, that accounts for the savings, I doubt very much they would check with the bank. They basicly look at what goes in, and what goes out, so there has to be money left over, to have savings.If they see an amount that is far bigger then what is left over, they probably will not be satisfied. The important thing is, to be able to show where the money came from.

[sars_notd_virus]

Is the ECO really verified the savings, or ask the bank the the amount of money that you have put the bank provided that you submit them the latest bank statement?

hope to hear from you..thanks

yes they do, ...they got a new added system now which you can find in ukba website ''bank verification system'' if they find any doubt with the bank statements they can verify and check it straight away.

[grahamw48]

This was probably because with the advent of Photoshop etc, people were busy printing their own fake bank statements :)

[jeanelovesdeano]

thank you for the response.i would like to ask let say, aside from the savings coming from my husband's salary, he will put an additional 1K pounds this week to his savings account and he will state in the cover letter that the money he put there was the monetary gift from close friends and family for our wedding and that money will use for my visa application. That means the money will be reflected in his bank savings account statement when we are going to submit it.
my question is , will this be a problem if by the time we will be going to apply for visa, the money left in his savings account will no longer be the same amount stated in the bank statement submitted because he will be going to transfer the money to my bank account after getting the print out of the last/ latest bank savings account statement .

hope to hear from you,thank u

[marlyn&kenny]

If I were you, wait until your hubby stablished a healthy or good bank statement. that's what we did, we waited until my hubby put more money in the bank and no overdraft with in that 6 months bank statement. Don't give the ECO any reason to turn down your application.
I know you both want to be together so bad ( we've been there ) but u have to be patient, make sure he got good bank statement at least 6 months. Guys correct me if im wrong!
Do your research here as well, this site is very useful... Sorry boss keith was only able to donate 10 :) maybe hopefully in the future :) give more lol
i tried to add u on facebook but i cant find u using your yahoo ID...

[\\\ElizaTony///]

yes sis ur ryt all of us here is unpatiently and cant wait,, same with me also im still waiting for my hubby's good accoount more than one year now but its ok for me nothing to do with all of this only wait

[kate_th]

uk embassy has this bvs.. bank verification system form ... which wil be signed by the manager... date of account was opened... acct no.. etc,, and amount in the bank... my husband has no work but he has big savings.. i hope they will consider it....

[turista]

My case isn't recent. But when my bro applied for a UK visa from the UK Embassy in Manila in late 2001 or early 2002 (after 9/11), the Embassy did phone his bank to verify his account. I know because I had worked for that bank, so my friends there told me about the embassy's phone call.

[Terpe]

My case isn't recent. But when my bro applied for a UK visa from the UK Embassy in Manila in late 2001 or early 2002 (after 9/11), the Embassy did phone his bank to verify his account. I know because I had worked for that bank, so my friends there told me about the embassy's phone call.

I think I'd give that bank a miss.

[Moy]

:D:icon_lol:

[sexyvictoria]

oh my:doh my fiance doesn't have saving account on uk. whenever he receive his salary he send it to me straight using moneygram. but last end of june he opened a savings account but i'm not sure if he puts money on it. he doesn't have also p60 because he has only 2 partime job. he earn 110pounds aweek. but he got a letter from his 2 bosses stating that he works to them and his amoun t of salary. he got also a letter from his mum and sister saying that they will going to help us when i get there. i hope you can give me idea of what i can do to get my visa:icon_sorry: it will be very big help to me. god bless.

[Bluebirdjones]

If he's employed (full-time or part time), then he'll have a P60 at the end of each tax year..... unless it's undeclared income.

The P60 represents what he's paid in tax, and what his employer are paying in National Insurance contributions.

If he's working on a "cash in hand" basis, just be very, very careful, and be aware of the potential consequences.

Also, £440 income per month is very low. I'm assuming that he lives at the family home, so has no/little outgoings ?

If so, make sure u read the threads about (suitable) accomodation and confirmation of support/change of tenancy by either the householder or landlord.

[wytdoll]

thank you for the response.i would like to ask let say, aside from the savings coming from my husband's salary, he will put an additional 1K pounds this week to his savings account and he will state in the cover letter that the money he put there was the monetary gift from close friends and family for our wedding and that money will use for my visa application. That means the money will be reflected in his bank savings account statement when we are going to submit it.
my question is , will this be a problem if by the time we will be going to apply for visa, the money left in his savings account will no longer be the same amount stated in the bank statement submitted because he will be going to transfer the money to my bank account after getting the print out of the last/ latest bank savings account statement .

hope to hear from you,thank u

Hiya!

Based on my experience we sent VFS Agency Makati all requirements that they needed. I think they will just want to know that your husband can provided for you while you are in the UK without help from Public Fund. But since youre married if luckily granted a visa that will be valid for 2 years and you are already allowed to get a job to pay for the bills.

We actually give them a copy of bank statement of my BF and stated that he just purchased a house for us to stay in that means the amount of money on the money less the money for the house. And we didnt have any problem regarding our visa and luckily I'm in Uk now with him.

From the forums that I've read as long as your sponsor have a job to pay for monthly bills and expenses that is OK. So I suggest that just provided them all the requirements and make sure that you answer their question honestly. There shouldn't be a problem after that. Got my visa after 25 days ....

Hope this help. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[sexyvictoria]

thanks for responding Bluebirdjones:) my fiance said that he's just working on a "cash in hand" that's why he doesn't have P60. And he's not sure if his employers are paying in National Insurance contributions..:doh and also his other work is only a self employed basis. He told me that he's not receiving any public puns. he still living with his mum and his sister. his sister is the one who's paying for their rent. i'm really confused now. i hope you can help me please:icon_sorry:

[grahamw48]

Sounds like this is going to be an uphill struggle, if the information provided so far is correct.

:NoNo:

His employers have to pay National Insurance by law.
Also your partner has to pay income taxes and his NI contribution too.

The government here will have records of such payments (or non-payments).

Maybe best to give your partner details of this forum, so he can seek some advice?

[Bluebirdjones]

Victoria,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but on the info you've so far provided, you've little or no chance of a fiance visa.

Essentially, your partner is unemployed and has no savings.
Additionally, it seems, he does not have his own accomodation,(is in rental accomodation), and relies on his sister to pay the rent.

1. He has to find "recognised" employment, where he receives a pay slip, and NI contributions are deducted.
2. He needs to build up some savings .... ideally in the region of £1500-£2000.
3. (after the first 2) he needs a letter from the landlord agreeing that an additional person can live in the accomodation.

I fear you've a long way to go

[sexyvictoria]

hi everyone! i need your help i'm applying for fiance UK visa. my fiance already went here in the Philippines 2 times last year. I already got this things:


IDENTIFICATION

*My passport - His colored copy Passport
*My NSO Birth certificate - copy of his birth certificate
*My CENOMAR
*NBI Clearance
*English Test Certificate ( I will have my test on Aug. 25)
*Tuberculosis Certificate
*Lungs X-ray
EVIDENCE OF ACCOMMODATION

*Letter from his mum (with her birth certificate and her picture)
*Letter from their landlord
*Property details
*pictures of their house
*Contract of the lease of their house

EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL CAPACITY

*Letters from his 2 employers (my fiance only got par-time job and the other is only a self employed basis.)
*Invoices ( from his part-time work and his other work is only a cash in hand that's why he doesn't have payslip)
*His Western Union/Moneygram receipts
*3 months bank statement (he just open a savings accnt last June 30,2011 so we have to wait on September to have 3 months bank statements

EVIDENCE OF RELATIONSHIP


*Letter from him
*Letter from me
*Booking for our wedding reception in the restaurant
* Reservation on the municipal for our wedding
*Christmas cards and pictures of the gifts
*Birthday cards
*Valentines cards and pictures of the gifts
*Flowers receipts, cards and pictures
*YM Screenshot
*YM Chat logs
*SKYPE Screenshot
*SKYPE Chat logs
*Facebook Screenshot
*Facebook Chat logs and messages
*My Western Union/ Moneygram Receipts
*Pictures of my Apartment here ( he got me my own apartment here)
*Contract of lease of my apartment
*Receipts of my apartment
EVIDENCE OF ENOUNTER


*Boarding passes
*E-Tickets
*Used Phone Cards
*Hotel Receipts
*Photos
*Poems/Letters
*Receipts
*Train and Bus tickets
* Departure cards
*Travel agent Receipts


My fiance earns 60pounds a week from his 1 job and 35pounds from his other job. He doesn't have P60 because he told me that his not earning that much to pay tax. When he gets his salary he send it to me straight to pay for my bills here like my electric and water bills, rent for my apartment that he got me here, net connection, for my foods and my phone also. he sends me every week. he still live with his mum and his older sister. his sister paying their rent. his sister wrote a letter stating that when i get there she will going to help us also and she also wrote to her letter that she's the one who's paying their rent. I read many messages here in the forum asking for help about a UK fiance visa I hope you can help me also to get my visa God bless us all

[scott&ligaya]

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I judge from what you have written that you chances will be very slim, your fiance is simply not earning enough money to support you and then get married, apply for FLR, spouse visa etc. The UK IS AN EXPENSIVE place to live and the streets are not paved with gold. I can only re-iterate what others have said. Your partner needs to get a permanent legal job and pay proper contributions to our tax and national insurance authorites and he needs some good savings.

personally I think he has been unfair to you in getting engaged and giving you hope without him studying the requirements and basically being more responsible.

sorry if this offends

[Bluebirdjones]

My fiance earns 60pounds a week from his 1 job and 35pounds from his other job. He doesn't have P60 because he told me that his not earning that much to pay tax

Someone's either being economical with the truth, or just doesn't understand.
If you work (officially) in the UK, then at the end of the tax year, you get a P60.
Granted, you may not earn enough to pay tax.... but you still get a P60.

He's therefore being paid "under the counter", ie cash-in-hand.
Which is basically illegal ...... as it's defrauding the tax man (HM Customs & Revenue).
... and why his employer has given him a letter stating this is beyond me. He's basically declaring his guilt, and inviting a visit from HM Customs & Revenue.

... what does he do for £60 per week ..... a newspaper round ???

.... so, the same problem as I stated before arises... he's essentially UNEMPLOYED.
You are not going to get a fiance visa in this scenario.

BTW ... why isn't he claiming Job Seekers Allowance, or other DHSS benefits, especially as his job is "undeclared", and he's unemployed ?

[sars_notd_virus]

My fiance earns 60pounds a week from his 1 job and 35pounds from his other job. He doesn't have P60 because he told me that his not earning that much to pay tax.

Please check this link :
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/working/intro/employed.htm#2
You can earn up to £139 a week (2011-12) before you pay any National Insurance contributions. This is known as the 'primary threshold'.

However, as long as you earn more than £102 a week (2011-12) you can still build up your entitlement to a State Pension and certain other benefits. This is known as the 'lower earnings limit'.




...Its a bit complicated to justify how your fiance can support you without recourse to public funds..and also, in your list of documents you must show ''evidence of provisional bookings'' if your planning to marry here in the uk.

[sexyvictoria]

so you mean guys i can't be there this October? :omg::bigcry:

[Bluebirdjones]

Legally, NO

[sexyvictoria]

what's the best thing to do? :bigcry: my fiance is very disappointed when i told him about this. he said he will going to ask his boss now if he pays P60 for him. But if he doesn't have I guess we still have to wait some more years for me to be there:bigcry:

[Moy]

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I judge from what you have written that you chances will be very slim, your fiance is simply not earning enough money to support you and then get married, apply for FLR, spouse visa etc. The UK IS AN EXPENSIVE place to live and the streets are not paved with gold. I can only re-iterate what others have said. Your partner needs to get a permanent legal job and pay proper contributions to our tax and national insurance authorites and he needs some good savings.

personally I think he has been unfair to you in getting engaged and giving you hope without him studying the requirements and basically being more responsible.

sorry if this offends

well said scott&ligaya..and very true
better to know from start than sorry at the end..but i know she can sort that soon hopefully:Wave:

[Bluebirdjones]

he said he will going to ask his boss now if he pays P60 for him

It's not a case of paying P60, it's a case of LEGALLY employing him.

But the scenario is still the same .... his earnings are too low, and he's got no savings.
So how is he going to support you in the UK ?

... btw... you need 6mnths' bank statements.... so that takes you to Jan 2012 at the very, very least.

[sexyvictoria]

oh my!:doh what about the supporting letters from his mum and sister saying that they will going to help us also and his sister will also include her bank statement. His sister is working as a secretary on a legal office and earning 1500pounds every month...is that will help us? My fiance is a asthmatic that's why he can't work that much:bigcry: can you give me idea of what to do? please :icon_sorry: Bluebirdjones God bless you.

[grahamw48]

With all due respect guys, I think this is all pretty complicated stuff for someone from a different culture/tax system to absorb. :)

Victoria, if a man earns even £300 a week in this country, it's quite a low wage.

Does your partner not use the internet ?

I recommend that you introduce him to this site.

[sexyvictoria]

he does, actually he's the one who send this site to me. I don't know with him, it feels like i'm just the only one who's working for my visa here all he does is to wait for me to tell him what papers do we need and he send it to me. he's the one who want's me to be there with him. i asked him before why he still lives with his mum and sister he shud be independent..he just answered me that he said that he doesn't know that he will be meeting someone like me and he will going to get married. he thought that he will be just single for the rest of his life. i just told him awhile that i mite not be there this year because our/my requirements are not yet complete..that he needs to have a better job to have a much bigger salary.. he just get mad..and he said no matter what i will be there this year. i don't know what he will going to do.:bigcry: he's only working as a cleaner in their village hall and he works there for about 2 hours and he is also working as a newspapers delivery man every morning.

[sexyvictoria]

but even he just earning that little he still sends me money every week to support me.:bigcry: i love him so much.

[grahamw48]

Oh dear, your story is so sad Victoria.

I feel sorry for you and your predicament.

I'm not the one to tell people how to live their lives, but the problem is that the govt. people here DO expect us to live in a certain way if we want to sponsor a fiancee or a spouse to come live here.

From the figures that you have provided, your partner does not have enough income.

I'm pretty certain that your partner's living arrangements will fail the test too.

Until he can satisfy UK govt. basic requirements, as shown on their website, you will both need to wait.

What age is your partner ?

[sexyvictoria]

Hi Everybody l am sexyvictoria fiance. I first want to say thanks for your help. But l have a full time job l work hard to support her. I am earn 110pound a week and 440pounds a month. I dont have a p60 but l have emailed the uk border agency and asked for a alterative to the p60. l will have 3 months bank statements and we have loads of moneygrams and western union recipts. I have got her a nice apartment and l send her my wages to pay the bills. It shows that l support her. So that the uk border agency will see that l have been supporting her for a long time and l will do that when she is here too support the girl l love so much.

[grahamw48]

Hi. :)

The UKBA really aren't concerned with any support you've given to your partner in the Phils, and it has no bearing on your application other than proof of contact, and that a relationship exists.

By your partner applying for a visa with YOU as a sponsor in THIS country, it means that you are subject to examination by the UKBA to check if you can meet their very basic requirements.


From what I've read so far, it appears that you don't.

All they are asking is that you are able to provide a roof over your heads, independent of your family, which surely most adults can do ?
Also that you have a regular, reliable and sufficient income so as not to be living off the state.

Why on earth didn't you check what the requirements would be before getting engaged to the lady, and perhaps making promises that you couldn't deliver ? :Erm:

[sexyvictoria]

greetings! do i really need P60 on my fiance visa requirements? What if he will just ask his employer for a statement of earnings from his employer with a company headed paper?does the ECO will accept as a replacement?

[Terpe]

greetings! do i really need P60 on my fiance visa requirements? What if he will just ask his employer for a statement of earnings from his employer with a company headed paper?does the ECO will accept as a replacement?


May I very kindly suggest you read and review the following, you will then be in a much better position:-

UKBA - Settlement - visa application guide (http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/settlementguide)

Immigration Rules - Fiance(e) and proposed civil partners (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part8/fiance(e)sandproposedcivilpartne/)

Example of the application form here (http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/docs/1903073/vaf4a)

Fiance(e) and proposed civil partners (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/partnersandfamilies/partners/fianceesproposedcivilpartners/)

[sars_notd_virus]

Hi Everybody l am sexyvictoria fiance. I first want to say thanks for your help. But l have a full time job l work hard to support her. I am earn 110pound a week and 440pounds a month. I dont have a p60 but l have emailed the uk border agency and asked for a alterative to the p60. l will have 3 months bank statements and we have loads of moneygrams and western union recipts. I have got her a nice apartment and l send her my wages to pay the bills. It shows that l support her. So that the uk border agency will see that l have been supporting her for a long time and l will do that when she is here too support the girl l love so much.

Please read about new proposals from the government ,slim chances..get your skates on before they changed their rules again and put the costs up again.:doh

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/13/home-office-proposals-family-migration