Is white rice a healthy choice.

[branno]

Is white rice a healthy option..? im a big fan of rice in any form... but i just decide to look at its health properties..

there i found that its not as healthy as i thought..

for instance one cup of instant white rice has around 165 calories,approx 4g of protien too per serving, has fewer vitamins and minerals as compared to brown rice.

Health Risks..

refined white rice has a higher glycemic index than brown rice..meaning it breaks down into glucose much quickly after eating compared to brown rice..

Foods with a high glycemic index can increase the risk of type 2 diabetes..( according to the harvard school of public health).

A harvard study showed that eating five or more helpings of white rice per week, increased the risk of developing type 2 diabetes by 17 percent.. while those who ate 2 portions of brown rice per week reduced their risk by 11 percent.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

[grahamw48]

The staple diet of billions of healthy Chinese.:)

It's the good stuff Asians eat with it that balances things up.

There are more people in this country taking medication for stress than anything else, so with that in mind I will be sticking with my 'everything in moderation' philosophy, and not joining the miserable, the obese and the paranoid. :NoNo:

[branno]

Recent figures show that diabetes has reached epidemic levels in china and asia and has no sign of slowing down..and this will become worse for the sufferes as the health programme in these countries are far below our standards..

just thought id mention the link between white and brown rice graham :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[sars_notd_virus]

I love my white rice and make it colorful and healthy :xxgrinning--00xx3:
the price of brown rice here in the uk will stress me and its not healthy:icon_lol:

[grahamw48]

I'll stick with my spuds. :icon_lol:

[branno]

ive just become a brown rice and baked jacket vegetarian... :icon_lol: but ive upped my daily alcholol to 3 pints a day as its good for your blood pressure :icon_lol:

[Moy]

sticky rice is much nicer mixed up with white rice:):hubbahubba:

or if i was in my hometown:D i prefer maiz:hubbahubba::D rapsa:icon_lol:

[Terpe]

White rice has been fully milled and polished. These processes will remove some nutrients.
Brown rice is essentially unmilled so it DOES contain more natural nutrients than white rice. (including the cereal germ)
Really the only differences between white rice and brown rice is down to this. Both begin life as the same rice.
We have some rice fields and can choose to enjoy some brown rice if we want, but it's very difficult to store brown rice without spoiling so mostly we have white rice.
The milling groups we use,will (for extra cost) add some additional vitamins to the white rice in a process called Rice Enrichment. Not everyones does it but we do it for all our white rice.
We are able to offset most of the cost of enrichment by making sure we get paid for the milling waste which can be used in animal feeds. Not everybody seems to know that, you must request that from the miller.

I have not done any research but my logic is that "enriched white rice" should be the same as unmilled rice (brown rice)
The Philippine Rice Research Institute centre in Nueva Ecija has plenty of really good advice on all aspects of rice production. Everyone I've ever contacted and talked to there has been extremely helpful.

Maybe some others here can give a much more scientific answer about brown and enriched white.
Actually I have no idea just how much rice is enriched in Pinas. Would be interested to know though.

[Moy]

:D:xxgrinning--00xx3: well said terpe

[branno]

http://http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=128

some interesting info here terpe...

[Terpe]

http://http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=128

some interesting info here terpe...

That link appears to be broken.

[branno]

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=128

hope this ones ok

[branno]

I love my white rice and make it colorful and healthy :xxgrinning--00xx3:
the price of brown rice here in the uk will stress me and its not healthy:icon_lol:

so will presciption charges if you need them :icon_lol:

[imagine]

so will presciption charges if you need them :icon_lol:

prescriptions in scotland are now free :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Terpe]

Thanks for the (now working) link branno.
It says that brown rice may be stored for 6 months (if done correctly)
This seems to be great news, especially for me. I am using a hybrid rice that will harvest 3 times per year. (and it does appear to do so, but can confirm after some more succesful years etc) Means I can probably store brown (unmilled/unpolished) rice between harvests ( at least for personal consumption.

Your link does not contain any info on vitamin enriched white rice, so I need to continue research on that.
Wikipedia states that USA will not allow white rice that has not been "enriched". Whatever that counts for :Erm:

[branno]

prescriptions in scotland are now free :xxgrinning--00xx3:

so they are :icon_lol:

[imagine]

so they are :icon_lol:

so its ok if i eat the white rice lol

[branno]

so its ok if i eat the white rice lol

nooo brown rice is healthier :icon_lol: and prescriptions still have to be paid for...:icon_lol:

[imagine]

nooo brown rice is healthier :icon_lol: and prescriptions still have to be paid for...:icon_lol:

its funny how we all enjoy the unhealthy food more ,
i think in my case, after all the asbestos dust iv swallowed and inhaled,fibre glass too,not to forget years of smoking , processed food,ect, i dont think a little white rice will kill me :laugher:

[branno]

its funny how we all enjoy the unhealthy food more ,
i think in my case, after all the asbestos dust iv swallowed and inhaled,fibre glass too,not to forget years of smoking , processed food,ect, i dont think a little white rice will kill me :laugher:

:icon_lol::icon_lol: no but the prescribed medication may ... :icon_lol:

[imagine]

:icon_lol::icon_lol: no but the prescribed medication may ... :icon_lol:

ok you got me, i surrender :cwm3:

[branno]

ok you got me, i surrender :cwm3:


me too :xxgrinning--00xx3: but going back to the rice topic.. theres a hidden hunger in rice.. mostly in asia and with the low income earners.. the lack of essential vitamins and minerals in the diet and the adverse consequencies of such on health is hidden hunger, esp wen blindness among children and symptons of nutritional amnemia shows and wen the weight of children is retarded.. hidden hunger has struck..

[branno]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2761840/

a few facts on enriched rice and washing and non washing the rice before been cooked.

[Doc Alan]

A harvard study showed that eating five or more helpings of white rice per week, increased the risk of developing type 2 diabetes by 17 percent.. while those who ate 2 portions of brown rice per week reduced their risk by 11 percent. The original article ( http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/170/11/961?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=diabetes+and+rice&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT ) was about 40,000 men and 157,000 women from the USA. Only 2 % ate this much white rice. The authors said " We estimated (*) that replacing one-third serving of white rice with the same amount of brown rice was associated with a 16 % lower risk of type 2 diabetes ". Don't rely on media " interpretations " - read what the authors actually said !
Diabetes, especially type 2 which accounts for three-quarters of cases, is increasing world-wide. There are around 240 m ; at least 2 m in the UK and more than twice that number in the Philippines. Many are undiagnosed until too late. It's easier to detect ( urine glucose ) BEFORE multiple problems arise ( heart disease, stroke, kidney disease, blindness ). They cost a lot more - in every sense.
A healthy diet, low in fat, sugar, and salt, with regular exercise and keeping to ideal weight are often sufficient. Insulin ( especially in type 1 diabetes ) or other drugs may also be needed to lead a normal lifestyle. Changing to brown rice and other wholegrain foods are only part of the answer to this global disease.
The Philippines allegedly has some of the highest prices for medicines in Asian countries. The problem, as always, is affordability - of drugs and healthy diet. Screening for - and treating - early diabetes is SO much better than dealing with the diseases it causes :xxgrinning--00xx3:. The public health insurance company PhilHealth paid out over 250 m pesos for diabetes-related admissions in 2006. Anyone with loved ones in the Philippines should seriously think about health insurance :). Type 2 diabetes may have no symptoms until something serious, like a heart attack, announces its presence :doh

[rantin]

Talking about the nutrients you get from white rice in comparison to other options like organic brown rice, the result is really astonishing. I have a friend who is taking up food chemistry and this is what he did for his final thesis. He fed 2 groups of chicks (small chicken) and put them under observation. One was fed with white rice while the other was fed with brown rice. After a little over 2 months, the group eating white rice became weaker and would regularly fall down as the bones were somewhat affected. This might be coincidence but you be the judge.

[Arthur Little]

Hmm ... :rolleyes: ... "food for thought" - not once ... not twice - but thrice !!! :D

[grahamw48]

Nothing wrong with white rice.....as part of a BALANCED diet. :)

[Doc Alan]

Of course a balanced diet is part of healthy living. But clearly large sections of the world's population, including UK and Philippines, are unaware - or unable - to eat healthily. Every gram of fat in food contains 9 calories ; each gram of carbohydrate or protein contains 5 calories. Obesity affects 1/4 and costs our health service as much as smoking. Diabetes mellitus is increasing worldwide at an alarming rate.
We have a responsibility to ourselves, but also anyone we care for, to be aware of what's good and bad for our health. That was the point of Branno's thread, and my post in response to it.
My point is this : both obesity and diabetes can be managed a lot more cheaply - in every sense - if recognised early. The consequences of not treating early are dire :omg: ( I won't list them all here ).
Registering with a GP and having a health check up is free in this country . Health care and insurance in the Philippines will probably cost, and may be truly unaffordable for many. But " bulag na e hindi pa kumikita " ( blind already - from diabetes - while not yet earning money ) could be the alternative.
Of course life should be enjoyed but it's sensible to be aware of what improves your chances of an enjoyable and productive life :).
Treat these two conditions early, reduce stress and the need for antidepressants :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

Thanks.

So you agree with what I said then. :)

Unfortunately too many people just choose to ignore sensible advice (like yours) when it is offered, and the rest of us end up paying .:rolleyes:

[sars_notd_virus]

ive just become a brown rice and baked jacket vegetarian... :icon_lol: but ive upped my daily alcholol to 3 pints a day as its good for your blood pressure :icon_lol:

:Erm::Erm: brown rice will not save u if u were drinking 3pints of beer a day, u will end up with a prescription someday:doh

[Moy]

sticky rice for me:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

[Doc Alan]

So you agree with what I said then. :)

Unfortunately too many people just choose to ignore sensible advice (like yours) when it is offered, and the rest of us end up paying .:rolleyes:
Of course I agree, and thanks in return for the compliment :xxgrinning--00xx3:.
I understand what you mean - in the UK our health service can hardly cope with current levels of obesity, smoking, and alcohol abuse. It's mainly free at the point of use but we pay for it through our taxes. Our health care system is very different to that of the Philippines. The common illnesses of our two countries are surprisingly similar. Probably most members realise this and therefore know what can be done about it - information and advice is here on the forum. The type and amount of dietary rice is just part of the recipe for health.

[Doc Alan]

:Erm::Erm: brown rice will not save u if u were drinking 3pints of beer a day, u will end up with a prescription someday:doh
So true -far from lowering blood pressure, alcohol abuse is a risk factor for HIGH blood pressure ( in addition to heart disease, brain damage including stroke, liver disease and certain cancers ) :omg:.

[branno]

im fully aware of certain facts re, drinking in excess.. but lots of reports say that 2 0r 3 beers per day can be very benificial to your health..

[Steve.r]

im fully aware of certain facts re, drinking in excess.. but lots of reports say that 2 0r 3 beers per day can be very benificial to your health..

Lots of reports :Erm:

[Doc Alan]

im fully aware of certain facts re, drinking in excess.. but lots of reports say that 2 0r 3 beers per day can be very benificial to your health..
Try reading this :-http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/29822-Tagay-tayo-!-Cheers-!-...in-moderation-!

[mickcant]

I like Brown Rice:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Can anyone give information on why some say re heating cooked rice can be dangerous?

Mick.:)

[Steve.r]

I like Brown Rice:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Can anyone give information on why some say re heating cooked rice can be dangerous?

Mick.:)

I have also heard that rice if re-heated /eaten after even a day can be potentially harmful. Something to do with bacteria growing extremely fast on cooked rice... I will do some digging :Erm:

[Steve.r]

I have also heard that rice if re-heated /eaten after even a day can be potentially harmful. Something to do with bacteria growing extremely fast on cooked rice... I will do some digging :Erm:I found this:

Is It Dangerous to Reheat Rice?

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Is it dangerous to reheat rice? It's a question we are often asked - yet the hazards involved in reheating rice are actually caused by improper storage rather than simply warming previously cooked rice - and actually apply to many other foods, too!

The reason that it is considered dangerous to reheat rice is that rice contains a naturally occurring bacteria called Bacillus cereus. Cooking the rice activates the spores of this bacteria - but, if the rice is then properly stored, it is safe to eat and to reheat (once) if needed.
The danger, however, arises when the cooked rice is held for too long at an inappropriate temperature (between 15 deg C to 40 deg C). Normal 'room temperature' falls within this range.

What happens then is that the spores develop into bacteria, producing the toxins that cause the symptoms of food poisoning (vomiting, nausea, diarrhea and abdominal discomfort).

These toxins CANNOT be destroyed by subsequently reheating the rice - so, whether you serve the rice cold or piping hot, it is STILL unsafe to eat.

And whilst improperly stored rice is the most common source of foodborne illness from Bacillus cereus, there are other foods that may be responsible. Potatoes and pasta may contain the bacteria - but so, too, may many other foods, including meat and seafood.

The safest option, then, is to ensure that ALL foods you cook for your baby are cooled as quickly as possible (ideally within one hour), by placing them in shallow containers. They must then be transferred immediately to the fridge or freezer and stored at the correct temperature.

Some sources suggest that you may store rice in the refrigerator for up to 4 days - however, when making baby food we prefer to use the rice the day on which it was made, or to freeze it for later use.



taken from: http://www.homemade-baby-food-recipes.com/is-it-dangerous-to-reheat-rice.html

[mickcant]

Thanks Steve:xxgrinning--00xx3:
So as long as I cool quickly and store in a closed container in the fridge all should be ok:xxgrinning--00xx3:

With living alone I tend to cook more than I need for one meal, and save time on anouther meal!
Mick.:hubbahubba:

[Doc Alan]

Well done Steve for your serious link about Bacillus Cereus :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Here's another good link :-
http://www.typesofbacteria.co.uk/bacillus-cereus-cereals-rice.html

[Steve.r]

Well done Steve for your serious link about Bacillus Cereus :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Here's another good link :-
http://www.typesofbacteria.co.uk/bacillus-cereus-cereals-rice.htmlThanks Al, also interesting to read in your link about the timescale of the symptoms of infection.
I would imagine that quite a few of our vacation diarrhoea problems are down to possibly eating rice that has been cooked and not stored in the correct conditions. We do tend to eat lots of rice when in Phils, so surely this must be a real source of our sqits
:action-smiley-082:

[grahamw48]

Most interesting. :)

I have always been most distrustful of food cooked and prepared 'out of sight'...especially in hot countries, and for this reason I have (except for my very first trip to the Phils) rented my own accommodation and cooked my own food made from fresh ingredients, cooked in hygienic conditions and stored correctly.

This became particularly important when my son came along, and he had his first visit when only 3 months old.

One of the reasons the ex breast-fed him until he was 2 years old (plus solids of course) was to give him additional protection, most importantly when he was very young...ie no possibility of contaminated bottles/prepared milk.

We had virtually no health problems with any of the children, and I never had any stomach troubles after that initial trip 21 years ago.
Work surfaces scrubbed with bleach, hand-washing, clean properly cooked food that hasn't been sat on a market stall for 8 hours, and fridge set at the right temperature, and you should be fine.

I follow the same regime back here in the UK, and no problem with extra food cooked. It is simply allowed to cool as quickly as possible and then put in the fridge until the next day, or put in the freezer.

[branno]

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/02/just_how_many_drinks_a_day_is.html

@ doc allan, there may be some points of interest in this doc.. im sure ur aware of all the noteable facts.. but i must say i did notice once wen i was in aussie that aboriginals wen i was out in there company the seemed to get drunk on 4 beers.. but they remained kind of level drunk... a few of us noticed this too, with different company we met...

[Doc Alan]

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/02/just_how_many_drinks_a_day_is.html


Thanks for the link. I stand by what I have said in my thread on alcohol in the " Health Issues " section. Hopefully members have found it easier to read than the article in your link. Moderation is the key :xxgrinning--00xx3:. It's off topic in your thread on rice to discuss further the impact of alcohol misuse on health, violence, and family breakdown which is estimated to cost the UK economy more than £ 25 bn , and the NHS almost £ 3 bn a year.

[branno]

i fully appreciate what ur saying Doc.. myself like countless other members in this forum are greatly respective of ur valued posts and the time it takes to write and the way you make it sweet and direct.. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Doc Alan]

i fully appreciate what ur saying Doc.. myself like countless other members in this forum are greatly respective of ur valued posts and the time it takes to write and the way you make it sweet and direct.. :xxgrinning--00xx3:
I've just logged on to the forum this evening and you're right, it does take time, but comments like yours make it all worth while .... thank you so much my friend :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[branno]

I've just logged on to the forum this evening and you're right, it does take time, but comments like yours make it all worth while .... thank you so much my friend :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Doc .. i do wish my dad had clouted me around the ear more often then he did..:icon_lol: ive just seen a post for a family practitioner.. my goodness.. the wage is horendous.. :icon_lol::icon_lol: i only though geoff boycott earnt that sort of money.. :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Michealleo]

Well i dont think so that white rice aren't healthy . It's really good specialy for me because i am gluten intolrence and i can't eat wheat food that's why i eat alots of white rice . And it's fine for me .

[lastlid]

I like rice. Whit or brown. Savoury or sticky. Love rice pudding etc. But I eat little of it in an effort to keep my calorie consumption in check, same as for potatoes and other carbs.

My wife assures me that many people she knows eat too much rice in Phils...3 times a day....and large portions too......:NoNo:

OK, if we burn it off then all is well, but if we dont....not so healthy

[grahamw48]

Well i dont think so that white rice aren't healthy . It's really good specialy for me because i am gluten intolrence and i can't eat wheat food that's why i eat alots of white rice . And it's fine for me .

All I know is that I see lots of slim healthy-looking ladies in the Phils....who eat lots of rice and fish, but mostly overweight ones here in the UK. :Erm:

My mother is gluten-intolerant too, so I can understand your difficulty. :)

[theyouthexpress]

I like both rice white or brown because both are beneficial for health. I always take brown rice on daily basis in lunch..:Rasp::Rasp:
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