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Tawi2
17th July 2011, 18:08
Theres reports of a new aids cure sweeping Pinas,I was told this by a friend who's gardener and family have actually spent several nights out in pursuit of the humble...........Tuko,yes thats right,the Tuko lizard :icon_lol: the price of tuko's has rocketed according to online gossip,tales of 250,000 pesos for a single lizard(I am booking a flight as I speak:omg:£££££)BUT i dont know a single person who has actually managed to sell one :Erm:

Tawi2
17th July 2011, 18:10
Can 'tuko' (geckos) cure AIDS?
by Jon Carlos Rodriguez, abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 07/13/2011 10:38 PM | Updated as of 07/13/2011 10:38 PM

MANILA, Philippines – The Department of Health (DOH) dismissed rumors that geckos or 'tuko' can cure AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) and warned the public against consuming the geckos.

The DOH was compelled to release a statement as the illegal trade of buying and selling geckos in the country continues to thrive.

Speculations have been circulating that enzymes produced from the geckos' gall bladders can cure AIDS.

In an interview with ABS-CBN News, Health Secretary Dr. Enrique Ona expressed concern that the public may resort to alternative medicine rather than seek help from health experts.

“Palagay ko mas nakakasama pa ito sa ating mga kabababayan dahil rather than going into ‘yung mga gamot na makakatulong sa kanila, e baka ito pa ang binibili nila,” said Ona.

A specialist on human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs) also dispelled the rumor.

“There are no scientific evidence that is published on the Internet or even in our journals or books saying that ang enzymes na galing sa tuko (gecko) ay nakakagamot nga,” Dr. Jose Gerald Belimac said.

The demand for geckos reportedly soared when a Malaysian went on the prowl for geckos in Misamis Oriental.

Residents of the province began collecting geckos as reports spread that large geckos sell for P400,000 per kilo, becoming a cause for alarm for the Protected Areas and Wildlife Bureau of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources.

Online trade

The trading of geckos also erupted on the Internet, particularly on the buy-and-sell website Sulit.com.

One user of the site posted an ad offering P60 million for a 500-gram gecko.

A fan page on social networking site Facebook also featured a bidding page for geckos.

One Facebook user posted an ad, selling 2 geckos weighing 250 grams for P80,000 each.

The underground market has become a cause of concern especially since misinformation gave the market its legs.

“Walang nagpo-promote na may alam tungkol sa HIV or AIDS ang paggamit ng tuko. Sa katunayan, bawal sa ating bansa ang magkalat ng maling impormasyon,” said Chairperson Jonas Bagas of TLF-SHARE (Sexuality, Health and Rights Educators), a member of Philippine National Aids Council.

Bagas was referring to Republic Act 8504, which states that individuals who spread misleading information can be imprisoned for 2 years.

“Wala pa akiong nakikita o naririnig na any proof of that so I would call it a folkloric tale or a grandmother’s tale,” Ona said.

http://174.143.173.70/lifestyle/07/13/11/can-tuko-geckos-cure-aids

Moy
17th July 2011, 18:38
British researchers and the United States has managed to grow a crystal that allows researchers to see the structure of an enzyme called integrase. This enzyme is found in retroviruses such as HIV and is a target for a new HIV drug.:cwm24::rolleyes:

Arthur Little
17th July 2011, 19:01
Hmm ... :rolleyes: ANY [safe] remedy capable of eradicating the global scourge of HIV - and/or full-blown AIDS - HAS to be worthy of the time, effort and money spent on research. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

sars_notd_virus
17th July 2011, 19:09
Tuko,yes thats right,the Tuko lizard :icon_lol: the price of tuko's has rocketed according to online gossip,tales of 250,000 pesos for a single lizard(I am booking a flight as I speak:omg:£££££)BUT i dont know a single person who has actually managed to sell one :Erm:

It will also take millions of pesos to have a ''tuko'' removed to one's skin..they sticked 20times like an epoxy resin:icon_lol:

Moy
17th July 2011, 19:40
:icon_lol::action-smiley-081:

Tawi2
17th July 2011, 19:41
they sticked 20times like an epoxy resin
I have caught a few in Pinas,they bite,one drew blood when it got my knuckle :bigcry: They are the worlds largest gecko,my mate used to shoot them with his air-gun as they hunted the much smaller tiki or butiki :)

Moy
17th July 2011, 20:44
:icon_lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsmWw_618mw

Terpe
17th July 2011, 21:00
Tawi2, you appear to have too much unallocated time on your hands:doh

Moy
17th July 2011, 21:02
:action-smiley-081::icon_lol:

Tawi2
17th July 2011, 21:13
Tawi2, you appear to have too much unallocated time on your hands
My Microlight lesson was cancelled yesterday,my kids spent the weekend with his girlfriend,and my new windows dont get put in till tuesday,its been a boring weekend but back to work in the morning :icon_lol:

jon richard
17th July 2011, 21:58
Never a dull moment on this web site..:hubbahubba::hubbahubba::Hellooo::Hellooo::Rasp::D

Terpe
17th July 2011, 22:17
My Microlight lesson was cancelled yesterday,my kids spent the weekend with his girlfriend,and my new windows dont get put in till tuesday,its been a boring weekend but back to work in the morning :icon_lol:

Maybe a visit to Lampton Park could have been a positive life changing experience :)
Well it's possible :icon_lol:

imagine
17th July 2011, 22:25
isnt aids a bit of a lucky dip :Sex::laugher:

Doc Alan
17th July 2011, 22:50
There is NO cure for AIDS :NoNo:. Three months ago my thread in " Health Issues " section explained the challenge of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus, a " retrovirus"). It infects CD4 cells, part of our immune defence system. Usually HIV is transmitted by vaginal or anal sexual intercourse ( no condom ), or by other means such as blood in an infected needle / syringe.
Anti-retroviral drugs MUST be taken in combination, for LIFE. They act at different stages of HPV infection ( integrase inhibitors, for example , stop HPV integrating into cell DNA ).
There are no immediate signs / symptoms after integration. Many months or years later - if untreated - a range of infections ( including TB ) and cancers ( including lymphoma ) occur because the immune system is deficient.

* We now know that drug treatment prolonging lives of those infected with HIV can prevent transmission ( to uninfected partners, or from mothers to babies ). Drugs should be used not just for patients with AIDS symptoms, but also those who are infected with no symptoms. Problems with this are under-diagnosis, and the huge cost of lifelong multidrug treatment.
* There is evidence for circumcision reducing the risk of men acquiring HIV by around half. Protecting women by " microbicides " in infected semen is not ( yet ) effective.
* Behavioural change - less promiscuous sex, and use of condoms - is working in some countries but not others.
( Bile from gall bladders ( " Tuko "/ geckos, or any other species ) will NOT cure. It is misleading, and defies common sense, to suggest it will :doh. )
* About 1 / 1000 persons with HIV controls the infection naturally and never develop AIDS. Antibodies have been identified which appear to neutralise HIV. There is the future possibility of developing antibodies for injection, or a vaccine :). Global frequency of AIDS is falling and access to treatment is improving, surely more reasons to be cheerful about this dreadful disease :xxgrinning--00xx3:.

grahamw48
18th July 2011, 00:34
If only it were Cockroaches. :rolleyes:

fred
18th July 2011, 00:43
We have had a few Filipino scumbags in our area canvassing the locals to sell Tuko to them directly.. They will be on Sulit .com before the blink of an eye..
I wouldnt be at all surprised if this doesnt drive this lizard breed into extinction...The distinctive sound of the Tuko..No more...:NoNo:
Onli in di Pilipins!!

Tawi2
18th July 2011, 19:45
could have been a positive life changing experience
Knowing Hounslow as well as I do a visit to Lambton Park is more likely to be life-THREATENING than life-changing :icon_lol:


I wouldnt be at all surprised if this doesnt drive this lizard breed into extinction
I thought that,it could be worse however,Pinoys could have adopted the south-african superstition for aids-cure,sleeping with a virgin :doh this has led to an increase in child-rape in SA.:NoNo: