Amy Winehouse found dead..........

[Tawi2]

Sad news,I was just listening to her on the radio yesterday,poor kid :NoNo:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-confirmed-dead.html

[Arthur Little]

:omg: ... how awful! :cwm24:

[les_taxi]

Very sad but was always a high chance with her crazy lifestyle:NoNo:

[Dedworth]

Very sad but was always a high chance with her crazy lifestyle:NoNo:

Agreed it's been on the cards for a few years

[grahamw48]

I hope the younger generation learn something from this. :NoNo:

[Steve.r]

I hope the younger generation learn something from this. :NoNo:

I doubt it Graham,

Yes, sad news, but is anyone really suprised ?

[Lancashirelad]

Another life wasted to the evil of recreational drugs...:cwm23::NoNo:

[Tawi2]

Another life wasted to the evil of recreational drugs
Her recreational drug of choice was alcohol,a legal recreational drug.She enjoyed a drink :cwm24:

[Tawi2]

She joined the "27 forever club" its a bad age for rock-stars.

Jim Morrison of the Doors (December 8, 1943 - July 3, 1971)
Janis Joplin of the Big Brother Holding Company (January 19, 1943 - October 4, 1970)
Jimi Hendrix of Jimi Hendrix and the Experience (November 27, 1942 - September 18, 1970)
Jean-Michel Basquiat Neo-Expressionist Painter (December 22, 1960 - August 12, 1988)
Robert Johnson (May 8, 1911 - August 16, 1938)
Kurt Cobain of Nirvana (February 20, 1967 - April 5, 1994)
Dave Alexander of The Stooges (June 3, 1947 - February 10, 1975)
Ron McKernan of the Grateful Dead (September 8, 1945 - March 8, 1973)
Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones (February 28, 1942 - July 3, 1969)
Mia Zapata of the Gits (August 25, 1965 - July 7, 1993)
Kristen Pfaff of Hole (May 26, 1967 - June 16, 1994)
Alan Wilson of Canned Heat (July 4, 1943 - September 3, 1970)
Chris Bell of Big Star (January 12, 1951 - December 27, 1978)
D. Boon of Minutemen (April 1, 1958 - December 22, 1985)
Les Harvey of Stone The Crows ( - May 3, 1972)
Helmut Koellen of Triumvirat (March 2, 1950 - May 3, 1977)
Gary Thain of Uriah Heap (May 15, 1948 - December 8, 1975)
Jesse Belvin (December 15, 1932 - February 6, 1960)
Malcolm Hale of Spanky and Our Gang (May 17, 1941 - October 30, 1968)
Arlester "Dyke" Christian (June 13, 1943 - March 13, 1971)
Orish Grinstead (June 2, 1980 - April 20, 2008)
Bryan Ottoson of American Head Charge
Jeremy Ward of The Mars Volta (May 5, 1976 - May 25, 2003)
Maria Serrano Serrano of Passion Fruit (November 26, 1973 - November 24, 2001)
Jonathan Brandis (April 13, 1976 - November 12, 2003)
Alexandre Levy
Louis Chauvin
Nat Jaffe
Rudy Lewis of The Drifters
Roger Lee Durham of Bloodstone
Wallace Yohn of Chase
Pete Ham of Badfinger
Pete de Freitas of Echo & the Bunnymen
Richey James Edwards of Manic Street Preachers
Fat Pat
Freaky Tah of Lost Boyz
Sean McCabe of Ink & Dagger
Valentin Elizalde
Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon (September 26, 1967 - October 21, 1995)

[Terpe]

Sad news,I was just listening to her on the radio yesterday,poor kid :NoNo:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-confirmed-dead.html

OMG, this is the first I heard about it.
It's very very sad.
She was only 27 yrs old and had no idea how to combat her addictive behaviour.
Very sad indeed. What a talented young lady she was.
God rest.

[Neu75]

Sad news, great singer :bigcry:

[Terpe]

Please let's be fair.
No-one has any firm cause of death since no post mortem has been done.
To be honest, we all know her life was already taken by drugs and alcohol before this tragedy.
She was stubborn, opinionated and talented.
Plenty of members here are stubborn are opinionated.

However, she was probably the most influential, copied and talented performer this decade when she was at her peak.
At lot of her work revolved around her difficulties. Her talent was much appreciated by many "top" artists.

She invested her soul into her lyrics, that's for sure.

[Tawi2]

The tastless TXT jokes have started about her already :cwm24:

[Terpe]

The tastless TXT jokes have started about her already :cwm24:

Bah,
100% from shallow, uneducated,faithless and bigoted people (IMHO)
Nothing further to add from me.

[tone]

She entertained us with brilliant lyrics and lost her life in what appears to be related to drugs.
I hope she R.I.P.

Thanks for the music Amy.

[Ako Si Jamie]

She had the world at her feet and a position a lot of people would give their right arm for. She had a choice and she chose to go down that road. She was offered help but refused it. A deeply selfish individual. I sympathise with those close to her.

[imagine]

yes she had a drug problem, i for one wont judge her for that,
to be fair who knows what its like to cope with a life of fame at such a young age

[toging]

i always been a fan of her (she had an extraordinary voice)...Yes she had her problems,but she is still someone's daughter ! RIP Amy Winehouse

[Ako Si Jamie]

yes she had a drug problem, i for one wont judge her for that,
to be fair who knows what its like to cope with a life of fame at such a young ageI've got a lot of respect for people who can beat an addiction. I just don't have any time for people who won't help themselves when help is offered.

[les_taxi]

Think the problem is when you are addicted no matter what people tell you it's still very hard to stop.
I know plenty of people who smoke and as bad as it is and it may kill you they still wont stop.
Also when i have drunk people in the car and they say 'never again' you know it will happen again and again-guess we are all human:)

[Moy]

a weak human body though a strong soul..yet the body at times wont be able to resist and before we could react its too late:laugher::doh but thats how the process of life cyle is:)..the pro and cons:rolleyes: and gain the consequence:Hellooo:

[Tawi2]

a weak human body though a strong soul..yet the body at times wont be able to resist and before we could react its too late
Deeply profound Moy :Erm:

[grahamw48]

I think there were quite a few reactions/rehabs before the end. :cwm3:

[Tawi2]

rehabs

"Rehab"

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

I'd rather be at home with ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cause there's nothing
There's nothing you can teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway

I didn't get a lot in class
But I know it don't come in a shot glass

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

The man said 'why do you think you here'
I said 'I got no idea
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
so I always keep a bottle near'
He said 'I just think you're depressed,
this me, yeah baby, and the rest'

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
have everyone think I'm on the mend

It's not just my pride
It's just 'til these tears have dried

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

[grahamw48]

At first I thought..what the hell have her parents being doing in all this ?

As the saying goes though, 'you can take a horse to water...' :cwm3:

It is they who I feel enormous sympathy for.

She is gone. They have to live with it.

[Steve.r]

I sympathise with those close to her. and yet, they were the ones who probably let her down the most :NoNo:

[Maria B]

RIP Amy

[Ako Si Jamie]

and yet, they were the ones who probably let her down the most :NoNo:I don't know the ins and outs of it all Steve, but nobody force fed her drugs & alcohol from what I've heard. She made that decision herself and should be responsible for her own actions. It's quite possible that she didn't get a lot of support from certain people close to her, although I know her dad tried to do his bit but that was thrown back at him.

[Jimbojac]

Much as i liked her music i never " feel sorry" for people like this, who i feel sorry for is the thousands of street kids around the World especially in the Phils.
These kids have no hope, no future unlike Amy, she chose the druggie lifestyle, its a sickening waste and has killed 3 friends of mine over the years.:NoNo:

[grahamw48]

Jim, I agree.

[KeithD]

Seen friends of mine in the past die from drugs/alcohol, they know they risks but choose to continue. Amy had one good album, that's it, hardly anyone will remember her in 5 years.

The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more.

[Moy]

Deeply profound Moy :Erm:

:icon_lol::rolleyes:

[Terpe]

Seen friends of mine in the past die from drugs/alcohol, they know they risks but choose to continue. Amy had one good album, that's it, hardly anyone will remember her in 5 years.

The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more.

Me too, seen plenty of my friends die from drugs/alcohol all too soon.
Wouldn't agree that's it's a true and simple choice though.

Sorry to say this but the only way anyone can truly understand the real and ultimate power and corruption of addiction is to actually experience it . PERIOD

Amy Whitehouse was singing and songwriting since the age of 13 yrs. She was passionate about her music. But she had a flawed character.

In her short "commercial" time she had TWO albums

2003: Frank
This album received a number of "awards" including an Ivor Novello Award.
It was a triple platinum seller meaning sales in excess of 900,000 copies in the UK.

Here's what wikipedia says:-
During the release of Amy's second album "Back to Black", the album "Frank" re-entered UK charts at N0.22 and became a firm mainstay throughout 2007.
As of November 2007 it had sold a total of 495,891 copies in the UK. As of mid-March 2008, it had sold 675,000 copies in the UK, and had sold 362,700 since February 2007, making it 2007's 37th biggest-selling album, despite its original release four years earlier. It sold a further 228,000 copies in 2008, five years after its release. The album sold approximately 22,000 copies in its first week of release in the United States. Following the 2008 Grammy Awards, the album re-entered the chart and climbed to number 67. It has sold a total of 307,000 copies in the United States.[22]

2006: Back to Black
Again according to wikipedia:-

Back to Black was named one of the ten-best albums of 2006 by several publications on their year-end albums lists, including The Austin Chronicle (number four), Billboard Magazine (number three), Blender Magazine (number eight), Slant Magazine (number four), Entertainment Weekly (number two), The New York Times (number three)[43] and Time Magazine (number one).[44] The album won numerous awards at the 50th Annual Grammy Awards, including Record of the Year and Song of the Year for her hit single "Rehab"; while the album received nominations for Album of the Year and Best Pop Vocal Album, winning the latter. Winehouse herself, for the album, was presented the Grammy for Best New Artist; Ronson himself earned the 2008 Grammy Award for "Producer of the Year, Non-Classical".[45][46] In July 2007, the album made the shortlist for the 2007 Mercury Music Prize. Other nominees included the eventual winners Klaxons, Dizzee Rascal, and the incumbent winner Arctic Monkeys. This is the second time Winehouse has been nominated for the Mercury Music Prize; her debut album Frank was shortlisted in 2004. This album was ranked number forty on Rolling Stone's list of the Top 50 Albums of 2007.[47] Entertainment Weekly critic Chris Willman ranked Back to Black #2 in the 10 BEST 'Records of the Year: Music' writing, "Black will hold up as one of the great breakthrough CDs of our time." He adds, "In the end, the singer's real-life heartache over her incarcerated spouse proves what's obvious from the grooves: When this lady sings about love, she means every word". VH1 named the album 10th Greatest Record Ever Made. Rolling Stone's list of 100 Best Albums of the Decade, from 2000–2009, ranked the album at number 20.[48]

Doesn't anyone know realise, or acknowledge that the influence she alone had on the music industry is just MASSIVE.
Look, Adele, Duffy, Lily Allen, Eliza Doolittle, Little Boots, Rumer, Ellie, VV Brown, Florence and the Machine, La Roux , Little Boots and even Lady Gaga owe such a lot to
the Amy Winehouse moment. All of these people owe most of their success to the music, style, attitude and influence of Amy Winehouse.

As for commercial albums, yes she had 2. So what?

Here are some other facts, just for the record:-

Lagy Gaga has 3 albums
Adele has 2 albums
Duffy has 2 albums
Lily Allen 2 albums
VV Brown has 2 albums
Eliza Doolittle has 1 album
Rumer has 1 album
Ellie has 1 album
Little boots has 1 album
La Roux has 1 album
Florence and the Machine has 1 album

Again so what?? Who will ever remember any of us when we are gone??

When you say "The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more."
Then here at least I can totally agree.

It neither says nor means anything. PERIOD

[les_taxi]

I like her Music and hopefully in time she would have had many more albums for us to enjoy.
What i really liked about her was that she was different,unique and if she stuck two fingers up to society or annoying journalists then good luck to her:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Everyone is having a go at her addiction but if you die from smoking (a very damaging addiction) thats ok:Erm:

[Moy]

only one thing that i could say :NoNo:too much love will kill you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpnylrJQ1rk:doh i mean alcohol/drug:bigcry::cwm3:

[grahamw48]

No, it's not ok to die from smoking Les (especially for those loved ones you leave behind), but it does give one an understanding of addiction.

Perhaps that's why I'm a bit of a 'fire and brimstone' preacher as regards the evils of drugs and alcohol where my boy is concerned. :furious3:

The amount of alcohol consumed by youngsters is just downright frightening these days. :NoNo:

[raynaputi]

I know Amy Winehouse as a singer/composer but I only know one or two of her songs probably...Rehab is the only one that I can remember...when I told my siblings about her death, they all said "who is she?, what are her songs?" :Erm: sad thing especially for her family..:NoNo: it just shows all choices that we make have consequences..so try to make a wise choice as much as possible...

[les_taxi]

No, it's not ok to die from smoking Les (especially for those loved ones you leave behind), but it does give one an understanding of addiction.

Perhaps that's why I'm a bit of a 'fire and brimstone' preacher as regards the evils of drugs and alcohol where my boy is concerned. :furious3:

The amount of alcohol consumed by youngsters is just downright frightening these days. :NoNo:

As you can imagine a typical Saturday night in town is Horrendous these days:NoNo:
So many people are completely wasted so early on-I will be embarrassed when one day my girl comes over here

[joebloggs]

Think the problem is when you are addicted no matter what people tell you it's still very hard to stop.


ones reason is that addiction and mental illness are often found together making it more difficult for them to quit , :NoNo:

[Terpe]

.......So many people are completely wasted so early on-I will be embarrassed when one day my girl comes over here

We came here to UK from Japan which is a BIG time alcohol culture. Still I had a major problem to explain the drunken behaviour here. Carina was very used to seeing people drinking too much, but she was totally shocked at the hostile and violent behaviour here.

[les_taxi]

It's often as we get older we form these opinions-when i was a young man Friday and Saturday night i had plenty:yikes:
The difference I see nowadays is the youngsters get cheap booze from the supermarkets,then go out on the lash and are completely wasted by midnight.
We also had our sport and altough we had many beers we were home at 02.30 and had to get up for the 11am Sunday kick off which certainly cleared our heads:xxgrinning--00xx3:
And as for the pretty girls covered in tatoos whats going on it looks gross.
We are in a mess and how we going to sort it?

[joebloggs]

When you say "The '27 Club' is just a statistical blip, nothing more."
Then here at least I can totally agree.

It neither says nor means anything. PERIOD

i watched the beeb news this morning, Kate Siliverton said there is a theory about the 27 club, didn't hear all of it, but from what i heard , i think for some people after 10yrs (presuming they become addicted at 17) of addiction its taken its toll on them and that's when they are at their lowest :cwm24:

[les_taxi]

Lots of suicides are from people in their 50s as they think seen it all,done it all so whats the point downhill from now,happened to a good friend of mine:NoNo:
I just wish I could turn back the clock 7 years and say Nigel come to the Philippines with me and it will change your outlook on life:xxgrinning--00xx3:
I truly believe if we had done that my mate would still be here today!

[Tawi2]

Lots of suicides are from people in their 50s as they think seen it all,done it all
My uncle killed himself,late 40's.nothing to do with addiction,he saw action abroad,something that troubled him i am sure,he had a personal demon,who knows what makes a person call time.

[les_taxi]

My uncle killed himself,late 40's.nothing to do with addiction,he saw action abroad,something that troubled him i am sure,he had a personal demon,who knows what makes a person call time.

Sad to hear that anyone who sees action abroad has my utmost respect.
I always wished I had joined the army like my brother:)

[Moy]

the question is :cwm24:does really demon:xxaction-smiley-047exist:rolleyes:

[Terpe]

i watched the beeb news this morning, Kate Siliverton said there is a theory about the 27 club, didn't hear all of it, but from what i heard , i think for some people after 10yrs (presuming they become addicted at 17) of addiction its taken its toll on them and that's when they are at their lowest :cwm24:

C'mon, firstly, how is the sample subset of population going to be defined??

How about if I said that from a sample of 100 world famous dead rock stars 96 of them died at an age that wasn't 27 what would you say?

[Tawi2]

does really demon exist
Not TV style demons :laugher: I mean some people have dark personalities or thoughts :)

[joebloggs]

C'mon, firstly, how is the sample subset of population going to be defined??

How about if I said that from a sample of 100 world famous dead rock stars 96 of them died at an age that wasn't 27 what would you say?

i think she said she had been to a psychologist meeting weeks b4, and this was mentioned, not about pop stars, but about being addicted for 10yrs, for many people that's when they were at one of their lowest points.

10 yrs of being addicted I'm sure for some people will physically as well as mentally destroy them. addiction took 20yrs to kill my younger brother, but then he didn't live the fast pace life style of a 'pop star' or have their finances to accelerate his death.

[Moy]

Not TV style demons :laugher: I mean some people have dark personalities or thoughts :)

:icon_lol::yikes:

[Terpe]

................addiction took 20yrs to kill my younger brother, but then he didn't live the fast pace life style of a 'pop star' or have their finances to accelerate his death.

I know very very well the pain of that joe.
It never leaves me.
March 2008 for my little brother. I don't need anyone to explain anything about addiction and the consequencies.

[Moy]

sorry guys but im deeply curious why do people used drugs anyway..ive never try even once:Erm: in my lifetime :doh:rolleyes:..

[les_taxi]

sorry guys but im deeply curious why do people used drugs anyway..ive never try even once:Erm: in my lifetime :doh:rolleyes:..

never had alcohol or tobacco?

[Moy]

zero..:NoNo:

[Tawi2]

never had alcohol or tobacco?
Or tea or coffee,check out the definition of drug.

[Moy]

""A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.[3] There is no single, precise definition, as there are different meanings in drug control law, government regulations, medicine, and colloquial usage.[4]":D

come on tawi babe:action-smiley-081::omg:..you know what the discussion in here was about..lolz..daft..
:laugher::icon_lol:

[Tawi2]

daft
:heartshape1:

[Moy]

:heartshape1:

:xxaction-smiley-047:heartshape1:

[joebloggs]

I know very very well the pain of that joe.
It never leaves me.
March 2008 for my little brother. I don't need anyone to explain anything about addiction and the consequencies.

i think its 5yrs or so for me, i had to go and ID his body and on the table in his bedsit was a certificate that he was given only a week or so b4 for being drug free for a few months, looks like he couldn't quit, and the dose that his body over 20yrs could handle b4, killed him this time, at least the hell is over for him ..

consequences terpe are still carrying on to this day :NoNo:

sorry for your loss terpe, time is a great healer, but the scars never fade :cwm24:

[Doc Alan]

Sad news,I was just listening to her on the radio yesterday,poor kid :NoNo:

Sad news indeed, but the cause of death will remain unexplained for a week or more AFTER next week's post mortem examination. Full examination with photography and dissection of the body alone will take several hours of at least one Home Office pathologist's time. Following that, samples for toxicology and microscopic examination will be essential to determine accurately the cause(s) of death. There are a number of possible natural or suspicious causes for death which need to be ruled out before concluding that drugs and / or alcohol were the causes - even if the latter may seem most likely.
If indeed illegal drugs are found to have contributed, it will fuel the debate on whether or not to decriminalise or legalise such drugs. Could further lives be saved, and the current 75,000 young people in the UK getting criminal records each year be helped, if such drugs were decriminalised ? They would still be illegal but dealt with in a civil system, with a fine and treatment in specialist clinics ( " rehab " ), together with needle exchange schemes. Some users at least could openly seek help, without fear of jail. This works in Portugal and Switzerland.
There is, however, no simple answer. Those most in favour of decriminalisation / legalisation ( such as Virgin boss Richard Branson ) often live far from the drug problem, addicts, and dealers. Heroin use in the UK involves around 1% of the population ( compare that with alcohol abuse / smoking ). If it was legalised, logically every other illegal drug, and future drugs, should follow suit. The worry about legalisation is that levels of " recreational " ( but dangerous ) drug use might increase. It's seen as a dangerous strategy by experts such as Professor Neil McKegeny at Glasgow University. He and others are closer to the problem than Branson, Kofi Annan, and the Prime Minister of Greece, who are on the Global Commission on Drugs currently debating it.
R.I.P. Amy Winehouse.

[Terpe]

........ decriminalised ? They would still be illegal but dealt with in a civil system, with a fine and treatment in specialist clinics ( " rehab " )....

Anyone know how many "rehab" clinics are active in UK ?
Maybe less than we think.

[Doc Alan]

The post mortem examination has been completed today, but 4 weeks has been allowed for the results of all tests, principally toxicology. The inquest was opened, and in fact adjourned until 26 October. The Coroner is allowing funeral arrangements to proceed as soon as possible. All this is standard procedure, there being no need in this case for further examination of the body.

[Steve.r]

I just heard on the news that there is no conclusive reason for her death. Is that a standard comment until all the tests are finished Alan? you know everyone will be waiting and speculating.
What are the main areas that they would be concentrating on? From your vast experience, what route exactly do the pathologists follow in testing parts of the corpse?

[Doc Alan]

Anyone know how many "rehab" clinics are active in UK ?
Maybe less than we think.http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/alcohol/Pages/Alcoholsupport.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/drugs/pages/drugtreatment.aspx
You're probably right Terpe, whether it's for drugs and / or alcohol addiction. Also inevitably - despite not knowing precisely what killed Amy, there's speculation about the nature of addiction, with evidence both for genetic and environmental factors. Unfortunately as others have pointed out, drug abuse begins - and can end - with free choice. Even countries with harsh laws may still have high levels of abuse - and as Amy's song makes clear, it's hard to enforce ( and pay for ) rehabilitation.

[Doc Alan]

... there is no conclusive reason for her death. Is that a standard comment until all the tests are finished Alan? you know everyone will be waiting and speculating.

It is standard, Steve. Obviously it's difficult to treat Amy's as a " routine " case with such speculation. But in any situation such as hers the pathologist would start by obtaining a full history from the police / coroner's officer, visiting the scene of death if necessary. If the circumstances were suspicious, one of the 30 or so Home Office pathologists would be involved, but the vast majority of sudden deaths are investigated by general pathologists such as myself. Then would follow full external examination, supported by photography and documentation.
No assumptions would be made - if there is no immediately obvious cause, there is always the chance of a natural cause for death. Every single organ would be dissected and samples taken for microscopy. Where necessary a whole organ ( such as the heart ) might legally be retained to establish a natural disease not obvious grossly.
Very often there might be circumstantial evidence, such as empty containers of sleeping pills, other drugs, or bottles of alcohol. Even so, we have to be absolutely sure there is no natural cause for death. Samples for toxicology are obtained from tissue such as liver and body fluids ( blood, urine, vitreous humour from the eyes ) then sent to an accredited forensic laboratory. Alcohol and certain drug levels are obtainable within 24 hours, but a full drug screen ( often needed ) takes much longer.
You can imagine that - supposing toxicology was entirely negative several weeks later - there are problems if no natural cause has been found and the body has been cremated. Depending on circumstances, however, it's routine for the Coroner to open the inquest and immediately adjourn it pending further investigations. ( The system is different elsewhere, like Scotland ).

[Steve.r]

Thanks Alan, very interesting, I can see why you enjoyed (not really the right term) your work. Piecing all the clues together to form a conclusion. Real detective work.

[imagine]

i read somewhere that its a third of our population including those that do and those that have tried drugs

[grahamw48]

Post mortems can be extremely upsetting for friends and relations though....especially when the cause of death (as in road accident) is pretty obvious.

It is horrible to see a line of large untidy stitches right up the front of someone you love.

I'm talking from personal experience, and I'm sorry but no amount of explanations will ever make me feel any different.

[Steve.r]

Post mortems can be extremely upsetting for friends and relations though. It is horrible to see a line of large untidy stitches right up the front of someone you love.

I'm talking from personal experience, and I'm sorry but no amount of explanations will ever make me feel any different.

Yes, I can imagine that is something you can never remove from your last memory of someone you love. My angle of questioning was purely scientific interest. Didn't mean it to upset :)

[sars_notd_virus]

all her song seems a lot to say about her (Frank,Tears dry on their Own,Back to Black,Rehab, Do me Good, LOve is a losing game ) and my only favorite of them all is this one ''I'm NO Good''..rest in peace AMy




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[-sillybilly-]

She was such a great singer, love all her songs!
But no matter how many times she went to rehab it all didnt work. Shes the only one who could treat and cure herself but obviously she didnt want it.

I dont understand how people find alcohol could relieve their stress and problems when the next morning they wake up the problem is still there...

Ive been to smoking and drinking but it never got me anywhere. So i've learned to face whatever the problem is, and it makes me feel better and wake up in the morning with a nice hangover! celebrated!:D (only kidding!)