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les_taxi
17th August 2011, 18:45
It seems the family of this riot inciter are going to appeal against his four year sentence (which in effect will only be 2 years)
I hope it's thrown out and I wish upon losing the appeal another year is added.:cwm23:

Arthur Little
17th August 2011, 19:08
It seems the family of this riot inciter are going to appeal against his four year sentence (which in effect will only be 2 years)

Sentencing policy must've changed since 1989, then Les :rolleyes: ... 'cos - up until that time - inmates generally served two thirds of their sentence ...

... in Blackshaw's case, it would mean he'd serve 32 months - subject to good behaviour - unless [God forbid!] he happened to be granted parole. :doh

grahamw48
17th August 2011, 19:32
Yes, all the handwringers are out in force. :rolleyes:

For goodness sake government and courts, just carry out the will of the overwhelming majority for a change :angry: !

les_taxi
17th August 2011, 19:34
It's been half the sentence for quite a while now Arthur
http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/PIB%20extract%20-%20Working%20out%20how%20long%20you%20will%20be%20in%20prison.pdf

Terpe
17th August 2011, 19:58
Here's my prediction:-

The appeals courts will be busy.
The lawyers will get fat pay-packets
All will be done on legal aid
The taxpayers are funding everthing
Nothing much will change

les_taxi
17th August 2011, 20:01
Not a bad prediction but at least he got jailed and I'm sure the sentences being passed have put many off from copycat incidents:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Terpe
17th August 2011, 20:41
Not a bad prediction but at least he got jailed and I'm sure the sentences being passed have put many off from copycat incidents:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I'd like to believe it Les, but I sincerely doubt it.

Dedworth
17th August 2011, 20:41
I hope if there is an appeal it is thrown out. I also hope Big Bubba has his wicked way with Blackshaw.

I agree with Graham the Hand Wringers are crawling out en masse, deluded morons :cwm23:

Arthur Little
17th August 2011, 22:59
It's been half the sentence for quite a while now Arthur
http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/PIB%20extract%20-%20Working%20out%20how%20long%20you%20will%20be%20in%20prison.pdf

Aye, you're right enough, Les :rolleyes: ... just goes to show how "soft" society's approach to dealing with offenders has become over the intervening years since I was employed in the penal sector of Social Services. :doh

Arthur Little
17th August 2011, 23:12
I hope it's thrown out and I wish upon losing the appeal another year is added.:cwm23:

:xxgrinning--00xx3: ... likewise!

somebody
18th August 2011, 21:04
While I think in this episode of public disorder a loud and hard message had to be given. It is a long term worry to me that the "minsters" dictated to the Judges what to do. While many judges said they had considered the events and public opinion that stiff punishments and passing on to crown court for sentceing was warranted. I do worry when judges are swayed in the manner many would condemn if happening abroad.

So yeah i'm glad stiff sentences as a rule but lets be wary of precedents being set which one day may bite us on the nose.

Dedworth
18th August 2011, 21:23
While I think in this episode of public disorder a loud and hard message had to be given. It is a long term worry to me that the "minsters" dictated to the Judges what to do. While many judges said they had considered the events and public opinion that stiff punishments and passing on to crown court for sentceing was warranted. I do worry when judges are swayed in the manner many would condemn if happening abroad.

So yeah i'm glad stiff sentences as a rule but lets be wary of precedents being set which one day may bite us on the nose.


I've not seen the outraged Guardian headlines blaming "Ministers" for the usual extremely lenient penalties which are to be found at the Limp Wrist end of the sentencing guideline scales.

The more stiff sentences the better as far as I'm concerned, just a shame we no longer have the birch and rope

grahamw48
18th August 2011, 22:30
Who is running the country ...Judges, or the democratically elected government of the day ? :Erm:

Dedworth
19th August 2011, 00:37
Who is running the country ...Judges, or the democratically elected government of the day ? :Erm:

Exactly these tree hugging judicial fantasists have been allowed to get away with their mealy mouthed social ideas for too long. Bin the ba$tards and bring in some decent, proper judiciary who have a feel for British ideals - RIP Lord Denning