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Doc Alan
2nd February 2012, 15:22
Many members and their relatives are nurses or are involved through romance and marriage. The forum is therefore well informed and able to offer help and advice :).
As there are more nurses trained than needed in the Philippines, it is on the UK Department of Health list allowing " ethical recruitment ". But we all know tighter immigration requirements for overseas workers, cutbacks, and recruitment from EU countries have dashed the dreams of many nurses from the Philippines.
For those committed to the UK, there's the second best option of healthcare assistants. But we need more nurses - watch " Call the Midwife ", as recommended by Rosie, which highlights our present crisis in maternity care. From next year nurse training in the UK is graduate-only. In my opinion that will put off girls and boys from a nursing career, worsening the shortage. But it may also increase - once again - the need for nurses from the Philippines.
These links may be useful to understand the present situation.
1. www.nmc-uk.org/Registration/Joining-the-register/Trained-outside-the-EU--EEA ( Essential document from Nursing & Midwifery Council )
2. www.pnauk.org.uk ( Philippine Nurses Association of UK )
3 .www.nhscareers.nhs.uk
4 .www.ielts.org ( International English Language Test )
5.www.rcn.org.uk/nursing ( Royal College of Nursing website )
6. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16252846 ( Regulation of Healthcare assistants )
7. www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/23/nursing-dream-filipinos-uk-jobs ( nurse training in Philippines and lack of vacancies in UK )
8. www.emigrate.co.uk/news/2213342.html ( UK nurse immigration slows ).
9. www.nursing-agencies-list.com/adaptation_information.asp ( information for overseas nurses in UK )
raynaputi
2nd February 2012, 15:27
Thanks Doc Al for this..:xxgrinning--00xx3: it might be useful for my brother (he's currently a company nurse in Makati) if ever he would be interested to work here. :D
Sim11UK
3rd February 2012, 10:40
Good information. :xxgrinning--00xx3: My Brother went to recruit nurses from the Philippines, for the NHS in the good old days. :)
Terpe
3rd February 2012, 10:52
This is very interesting and great information for me.
Our daughter is a nurse and currently still working for free as a volunteer.
Blesslady
3rd February 2012, 11:41
Thank you Doc Alan for sharing with us this useful link and great Info.wish I can register at NMC and join NHS..:)
Rosie1958
5th February 2012, 12:37
As always, a very useful and informative thread Doc Alan:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Other than raising the academic level of our future nurses for the sake of it, or to reduce competition, I don’t understand the reason behind the requirement for a degree ,unless of course the Health Authorities want to increase the salary being paid, which I very much doubt. Is the role changing Doc Alan?
Many of our nurses have already moved into the private sector and I was very pleased to meet the new nurse who started at my brother’s nursing home this week. A petite and very pretty young Filipina who has the most enormous smile, bless her who was delighted to hear that my brother can speak Tagalog :D
For anyone interested, the current BBC1 programme on TV on Sunday nights at 8pm named Call the Midwife is actually based on midwifery in the 1950s. Through it’s characters, the programme demonstrates the social and medical problems experienced some 60 years ago which have helped to develop the service into what it is today.
Doc Alan
5th February 2012, 13:59
Thanks Rosie :). The NMC carried out a review of pre-registration nursing education about two years ago. Their consultation included an online survey and " live " events round the UK. The Review was " part of the UK Government's Modernising Nursing Careers Initiative, focusing on the need for nursing programmes across the UK to change, so nurses of the future can meet the needs of patients and clients (:omg: ) safely and effectively. " Consultation was closed at the end of 2010. They went ahead with their controversial plans, and training to be a nurse in the UK is going to require a degree (http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/default.aspx?id=1941 ).
It would be interesting to know the views of nurses or their partners on the forum.
As for " Call the Midwife " , why not join the other 9 million viewers and watch tonight ? :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Dedworth
5th February 2012, 15:31
Some useful and relevant links Doc :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Doc Alan
5th February 2012, 18:14
Some useful and relevant links Doc :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Thanks Ded :). I've had much contact with nurses - professionally of course :icon_lol: - over the years. Their roles are surely complementary - not antagonistic - to doctors and other healthcare workers. I lectured to student nurses on clinical medicine - of mutual benefit - until new education rules required non medical nurse tutors to take over that role :doh.
In no way do I wish to appear patronising, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think degree programmes comprising 50% theory and 50% practice will produce the nurses we need, or encourage the right sort of person into a nursing career in the first place. But the NMC has made their decision. That's why there may be a future shortage. Being optimistic, that could spell a renewed need for filipino nurses in this country. They're also graduates, but must do a compulsory year working in Philippines hospital(s) before they're eligible. Of course, they will also be competing for posts with nurses from the EU ( there's a lack of jobs right now in Spain and Portugal ). Fingers crossed for the future :xxgrinning--00xx3:.
Dedworth
5th February 2012, 19:17
Thanks Ded :). I've had much contact with nurses - professionally of course :icon_lol: - over the years. Their roles are surely complementary - not antagonistic - to doctors and other healthcare workers. I lectured to student nurses on clinical medicine - of mutual benefit - until new education rules required non medical nurse tutors to take over that role :doh.
In no way do I wish to appear patronising, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think degree programmes comprising 50% theory and 50% practice will produce the nurses we need, or encourage the right sort of person into a nursing career in the first place. But the NMC has made their decision. That's why there may be a future shortage. Being optimistic, that could spell a renewed need for filipino nurses in this country. They're also graduates, but must do a compulsory year working in Philippines hospital(s) before they're eligible. Of course, they will also be competing for posts with nurses from the EU ( there's a lack of jobs right now in Spain and Portugal ). Fingers crossed for the future :xxgrinning--00xx3:.
Cheers Doc - you're the undoubted expert on here. I think there are a few Filipino Nurses filtering into the system but I'm not sure if they're recent arrivals - I get a bit confused when my Mrs talks about adaptation and PIN Numbers (until recently I always thought that was needed to get cash from the hole in the wall)
joebloggs
5th February 2012, 20:20
Thanks Doc Al for this..:xxgrinning--00xx3: it might be useful for my brother (he's currently a company nurse in Makati) if ever he would be interested to work here. :D
not forgetting the USA..
According to the US Department of Health and Human Services, 50 percent of the foreign nurses come from the Philippines, 20 percent from Canada and 8 percent from the United Kingdom and 22 percent come from all other sources. In addition, over half of the foreign educated nurses were estimated to have baccalaureate or higher degrees. Many FENs are highly motivated to be a nurse in the US and usually have dedicated from 2 to 4 years of their lives to reach this goal.
MissAna
23rd February 2012, 00:41
I'm a registered nurse in the Philippines.. as i read the requirements on how to become a nurse here in the UK i find it hard to meet the standards :cwm24:
i guess nursing will not be my job option here. :NoNo:
angellegwen
22nd January 2013, 16:31
miss ana don't lose hope. There's always a way and solution :smile: Do you have at least a year experience in Philippines? I have the same worries, Im registeres in Phils but i only have 6 months volunteer hospital experience. If its not enough then maybe once we get our visa and is allowed to work, we can consider any medical related job where we can earn our experience here. Then apply to be qualified nurse here.
Your from where miss ana in Phils if u don't mind. Ako from Siquijor Island, then nag stay ako sa Cebu from college time mga 8 yrs ako sa cebu before tapos napunta na ako dito.. Its nice to hear from Filipinos here, wala pa akong friend dito na pwedi makausap personal or by phone.
Dedworth
22nd January 2013, 16:35
This might be useful to some
http://www.pnauk.org.uk/ Philippine Nurses Association of UK
MissAna
22nd January 2013, 16:42
miss ana don't lose hope. There's always a way and solution :smile: Do you have at least a year experience in Philippines? I have the same worries, Im registeres in Phils but i only have 6 months volunteer hospital experience. If its not enough then maybe once we get our visa and is allowed to work, we can consider any medical related job where we can earn our experience here. Then apply to be qualified nurse here.
Your from where miss ana in Phils if u don't mind. Ako from Siquijor Island, then nag stay ako sa Cebu from college time mga 8 yrs ako sa cebu before tapos napunta na ako dito.. Its nice to hear from Filipinos here, wala pa akong friend dito na pwedi makausap personal or by phone.
Hello! I worked as a company nurse in the philippines it was not even 6months so it just equivalent of having no experience at all. all i want is to get this work permit so i can get a job (maybe other medical related job will do) . i'll think about on a later date if i'm going to proceed my nursing career here.
i'm from leyte by the way. but i studied nursing in cebu city so bisaya ko :biggrin: do you have facebook or twitter?
angellegwen
22nd January 2013, 16:46
yeheee oo bisaya pud ko, from SWU sa Cebu ko, problem is 6 months experience di gehapon enough, and that was yr 2009...murag nalimot nko. goodluck nalang nato ani.
MissAna
22nd January 2013, 17:13
yeheee oo bisaya pud ko, from SWU sa Cebu ko, problem is 6 months experience di gehapon enough, and that was yr 2009...murag nalimot nko. goodluck nalang nato ani.
same here! murag g.taya na ako utok i think i badly need a review do you have twitter or facebook? it's better if we talk there :biggrin:
angellegwen
22nd January 2013, 17:26
nagpapalit ko NCLEX reviewer sko bana pra nkoy kalingawan ug basa ug napud ko book life in the Uk ky naa daw exam in the future visa so kalingaw sad ko basa...oo nko fb...same ra sa ako username dri with y.c..mao na email ky di ma search ako fb...allowed bah bah mag butang facebook account dri?
Steve.r
23rd January 2013, 01:10
yeheee oo bisaya pud ko, from SWU sa Cebu ko, problem is 6 months experience di gehapon enough, and that was yr 2009...murag nalimot nko. goodluck nalang nato ani.
nagpapalit ko NCLEX reviewer sko bana pra nkoy kalingawan ug basa ug napud ko book life in the Uk ky naa daw exam in the future visa so kalingaw sad ko basa...oo nko fb...same ra sa ako username dri with y.c..mao na email ky di ma search ako fb...allowed bah bah mag butang facebook account dri?
Please only use English in the forum so we can all read what you are saying.
McGregor03
23rd January 2013, 03:36
MissAna!!!
Ur from Cebu? I finished mine in San Jose -Recoletos :D We bumped once here so I add u up here thanks for accepting that request...
McGregor03
23rd January 2013, 03:37
Hi Angellegwen:Hellooo: Glad to know people from cebu here... Hope be there joining u guys in UK soon...FIngers crossed...
Cheers!
McGregor03
23rd January 2013, 03:39
I'm a registered nurse in the Philippines.. as i read the requirements on how to become a nurse here in the UK i find it hard to meet the standards :cwm24:
i guess nursing will not be my job option here. :NoNo:
How long will it take if ur going to study nursing there again?
Mariam
MissAna
23rd January 2013, 10:21
MissAna!!!
Ur from Cebu? I finished mine in San Jose -Recoletos :D We bumped once here so I add u up here thanks for accepting that request...
:Wave: I'm from Leyte but I studied BSN in University of Cebu banilad! Ah I see, so you are from USJR! I really miss Cebu, the sinulog just ended yesterday I think right? :xxgrinning--00xx3:
It's okay, I add anyone who is a member in this forum. :smile:
How long will it take if your going to study nursing there again?
Mariam
Just refer on to the links above (first post on this thread :yeahthat:) that Doc Alan provided for us :smile:
angellegwen
23rd January 2013, 13:27
McGregor03
Hi Angellegwen Glad to know people from cebu here... Hope be there joining u guys in UK soon...FIngers crossed...
Cheers
Soon :)
desai
22nd October 2014, 19:13
Hello Miss Ana, kmusta? I'm Dess from the Philippines. I'm also a registered Nurse in the Philippines and here in Saudi, Arabia. I've been here almost 2 years now and I'm planning to go back to the Philippines to pursue my dream to work in UK. I would like to ask you about some info or idea now with you if your already working now there. I was thinking if I could take the examination in the Philippines and their is an agency that could help me to assess my credentials or I'm eligible to take the exam.
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