What do you think about the feminity perfection?

[Vische]

I just watched a video in this site http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/perfect-vagina/ and its a documentary entitled 'Perfect Vagina', and im totally shock that its becoming a trend in the western to have a surgical operation of their vagina in a very young age like 14-21 years old women. This is really disturbing to think some ladies would like to get an operation because they think their vagina looks ugly, or their boyfriend dumped them because of their ugly vagina, and some traditional culture like a virgin women when they got married.

I guess the old ways are beginning to be lost but i felt sorry for those ladies being bullied because of their genitals and that they will be hated by their husbands because their not virgin anymore, i think its really rubbish.

I'm not against surgical operations but i think its a process done because of some incurable disease or some accident which unable the patient to do their normal ways, but this i guess so outrageous and to think its teenagers that wants this surgical operations, scary .... what will happen in the future then .... i don't like to think about it.

Anyway guys i just like to share this educational information for update with the trends in some teens now :cwm24:

[juvyjones28]

To save chaos and money for the operations, the husband/bf should turn all lights off and close their eyes every time they make love:icon_lol:

On a serious note, Its not really necessary to have operations if you have ugly duckly genital, Its what GOD gave us so we have to accept, and If our bf/husband love us then they should accept the complete package as well.

[grahamw48]

I think it's a dreadful idea.

Most womens' hangups are inside their own heads anyway, IMO.

That's what needs fixing.

I tend to look at the mantlepiece whilst poking the fire, so not an issue for me. :)

[joebloggs]

To save chaos and money for the operations, the husband/bf should turn all lights off and close their eyes every time they make love:icon_lol:

On a serious note, Its not really necessary to have operations if you have ugly duckly genital, Its what GOD gave us so we have to accept, and If our bf/husband love us then they should accept the complete package as well.

:xxgrinning--00xx3: 'When Life Gives you Lemons...Make Lemonade!' :D

[Steve.r]

Nothing wrong with Anal Bleaching :action-smiley-081:

[mickcant]

I think they are all beautiful the way nature gave them:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Mick.

[joebloggs]

I think they are all beautiful the way nature gave them:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Mick.

you haven't looked at my thread on women prisoners in Oz in the 1920's :yikes:

:Help1:

[Vische]

Guys those comments you stated are really true, im shocked when i saw that video its scary and im kinda sad for those girls who has this feeling they are so ugly just because of that and also that hymen operation to make the vagina virgin again is so horrible and so unfair for the women in their culture, the teenage guy interviewed there is really shocking.

[Vische]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: 'When Life Gives you Lemons...Make Lemonade!' :D


And i love your quote joebloggs, what God gave you then you must use it not change it :)

[imagine]

I think it's a dreadful idea.

Most womens' hangups are inside their own heads anyway, IMO.

That's what needs fixing.

I tend to look at the mantlepiece whilst poking the fire, so not an issue for me. :)

depends where your head is at the time :D

[imagine]

nature gave us all whatever we have ,god blessed us with something wonderful,
they all come in different sizes, male or female,

i say if it aint broke dont fix it :xxgrinning--00xx3:

shaved is ok :hubbahubba::icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

think id better shut up,, no i mean i better watch the vid now :icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Vische]

nature gave us all whatever we have ,god blessed us with something wonderful,
they all come in different sizes, male or female,

i say if it aint broke dont fix it :xxgrinning--00xx3:

shaved is ok :hubbahubba::icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

think id better shut up,, no i mean i better watch the vid now :icon_lol::icon_lol:

imagine that's good if its not broke don't fix it, i like that! :) yeah watch the video its kinda long but very informative especially to ladies and young ones.

[imagine]

part 1, that young girl didnt need any surgery ,

part 2 ,the docter eric shoulton,showing the photo before and after,of a 16 yrs old, that one i can understand, but hes only showing 1 photo of one patient to justify what he does,

right back now to part 3 :D brb

[Vische]

you haven't looked at my thread on women prisoners in Oz in the 1920's :yikes:

:Help1:

ok joebloggs i will look to your thread :)

[Vische]

part 1, that young girl didnt need any surgery ,

part 2 ,the docter eric shoulton,showing the photo before and after,of a 16 yrs old, that one i can understand, but hes only showing 1 photo of one patient to justify what he does,

right back now to part 3 :D brb

Yeah i agree with you on that, that girl on the first part should not be affected by the tease of her sister and other guys, mind them they might have ugly part on their bodies too hahaha.

And yeah the 2nd girl is justifiable needed that coz its like an accident and that part will not be able to be in her undies either, its a huge skin i don't know where it comes from.

and yeah continue watching its really informative video ... :icon_lol:

[imagine]

shame for the muslim girl,
and the muslim guy sexist attitude , this was something i saw with some english guys remnents from the past, its ok for guys but not for women kind of thing:NoNo:

and part 4, made me laugh , :icon_lol: i thought it was fanny :icon_lol::icon_lol: from an educational informative view

its something i dont think guys do , not any i know anyway, like right lads lets slap em on the table and check each others out,:icon_lol:

on occasion in mens toilets ,, urinals you sometimes see from the corner of your eye the guy next to you turning his head to try get a peek, ( or is that paranoia) i think guys try to be discreet and hide their embaressment try not to let it be seen, ( maybe its a fear of thinking it might be smaller than the other guys )
but then in the other hand , iv seen in a sports club comunal shower area, theres always 1 guy big and proud flashing it around, makes you feel small :laugher::laugher::laugher:

good post Vische,

[Vische]

shame for the muslim girl,
and the muslim guy sexist attitude , this was something i saw with some english guys remnents from the past, its ok for guys but not for women kind of thing:NoNo:

and part 4, made me laugh , :icon_lol: i thought it was fanny :icon_lol::icon_lol: from an educational informative view

its something i dont think guys do , not any i know anyway, like right lads lets slap em on the table and check each others out,:icon_lol:

on occasion in mens toilets ,, urinals you sometimes see from the corner of your eye the guy next to you turning his head to try get a peek, ( or is that paranoia) i think guys try to be discreet and hide their embaressment try not to let it be seen, ( maybe its a fear of thinking it might be smaller than the other guys )
but then in the other hand , iv seen in a sports club comunal shower area, theres always 1 guy big and proud flashing it around, makes you feel small :laugher::laugher::laugher:

good post Vische,


Yes poor muslim girl she said its better to die than to live to be known she's not virgin anymore and sad for the man in their culture they seemed close minded. :NoNo:

And yeah the last part is quite amusing its like carrying your pets with you and showing it to your friends and saying 'come on boy talk to them' or watch me carefully :icon_lol: lets bond and share some secrets hahahahaha its quite really funny but informative it can help those poor ladies to therapy their thinking and whatever embarrassed situation they been through.

You know imagine try to do that with your fellow mates, come lets see and compare :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :laugher: :laugher:

[imagine]

You know imagine try to do that with your fellow mates, come lets see and compare :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :laugher: :laugher:

:yikes:no way :NoNo::laugher::laugher:

[imagine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ3lw-eNrFk

[imagine]

just for the laugh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzZ-lCeeFAU&feature=BFa&list=FL3NPtSJu-MyxOyUiWOJzE3g&lf=plpp_video

[lastlid]

..... i thought it was fanny :icon_lol::icon_lol: from an educational informative view


I presume that wasn't a Freudian Slip

[lastlid]

I tend to think that all this is in keeping with nose jobs and boob jobs etc......

And in keeping with Graham's comment....

Most womens' hangups are inside their own heads anyway, IMO.

[sars_notd_virus]

What do you think about the feminity perfection?

Guess this opens up a ''hole'' new debate:Cuckoo:

[Vische]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ3lw-eNrFk

imagine you make me laugh a lot with this video :icon_lol: i can't stop laughing with this.

your good :laugher: :laugher:

[Vische]

just for the laugh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzZ-lCeeFAU&feature=BFa&list=FL3NPtSJu-MyxOyUiWOJzE3g&lf=plpp_video

THIS IS GREAT ..... i can't stop laughing again :laugher: :laugher: did this ever happen to you guys hahahahahaha :icon_lol:

[Vische]

I tend to think that all this is in keeping with nose jobs and boob jobs etc......

And in keeping with Graham's comment....

yeah i never thought that even those genitals are going to be enhanced :laugher:

[Doc Alan]

Labial plastic surgery ( labioplasty ) isn’t even in the top 10 of cosmetic procedures recorded by BAAPS ( British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons ) in 2010. Breast surgery, followed by work on eyelids, face and nose is by far the commonest ( 90% of all procedures are carried out on women ).
As this is the only accurate data, it’s impossible to verify the claim that labioplasty is increasing fast, although we do know procedures on the NHS have increased to well over 1000 / year.
I also don’t fully trust documentaries or what is reported in the media.
Labioplasty should not be undertaken lightly. For a start, if it’s purely for cosmetic reasons, it will cost at least £ 3000 privately. Surgery should not be the first line treatment for women concerned about the aesthetic appearance of their labia. They need emotional and psychological support, and not least education about what’s normal. Only in a minority of cases with genuine physical or psychological issues, after full appraisal by their GP, should they be referred to a gynaecologist / plastic surgeon. Labioplasty is a safe procedure when performed by an accredited specialist, but the number on the NHS should be an absolute minimum.
Of FAR more concern is female circumcision or genital cutting, also known as genital mutilation, performed for cultural and religious reasons. At the least, this involves cutting the clitoris, and at most, removing all the external genitalia. It is painful, dangerous because of bleeding, infection and scarring, since it’s often carried out before puberty with no anaesthesia, proper instruments, or sterile conditions … and no consent ! This barbaric procedure is widespread in many African countries, also the Middle East, and to a much lesser extent, USA and Europe. It’s estimated that over 2 million girls have some kind of genital cutting every year – which puts cosmetic labioplasty into perspective.

[lastlid]

Vische. Nice pic, by the way...the Avatar.....who's painting is it?

[Vische]

Labial plastic surgery ( labioplasty ) isn’t even in the top 10 of cosmetic procedures recorded by BAAPS ( British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons ) in 2010. Breast surgery, followed by work on eyelids, face and nose is by far the commonest ( 90% of all procedures are carried out on women ).
As this is the only accurate data, it’s impossible to verify the claim that labioplasty is increasing fast, although we do know procedures on the NHS have increased to well over 1000 / year.
I also don’t fully trust documentaries or what is reported in the media.
Labioplasty should not be undertaken lightly. For a start, if it’s purely for cosmetic reasons, it will cost at least £ 3000 privately. Surgery should not be the first line treatment for women concerned about the aesthetic appearance of their labia. They need emotional and psychological support, and not least education about what’s normal. Only in a minority of cases with genuine physical or psychological issues, after full appraisal by their GP, should they be referred to a gynaecologist / plastic surgeon. Labioplasty is a safe procedure when performed by an accredited specialist, but the number on the NHS should be an absolute minimum.
Of FAR more concern is female circumcision or genital cutting, also known as genital mutilation, performed for cultural and religious reasons. At the least, this involves cutting the clitoris, and at most, removing all the external genitalia. It is painful, dangerous because of bleeding, infection and scarring, since it’s often carried out before puberty with no anaesthesia, proper instruments, or sterile conditions … and no consent ! This barbaric procedure is widespread in many African countries, also the Middle East, and to a much lesser extent, USA and Europe. It’s estimated that over 2 million girls have some kind of genital cutting every year – which puts cosmetic labioplasty into perspective.

Doc Alan that's really a very informative data's you have there, and now im beginning to think what more could be done in those surgical operations to humans for the so-called perfection, its sad though that people are more concern on how they look rather than how their emotions will be. I think even though they undergo a series of psychological consultation i think those patients still has some psychological trauma with that certain situation, the feeling of being un-love or un-like and the feeling that they are going to be perfect, though in reality there's no such thing as perfect, people tend to differ to one another that made them unique with each other.

Well the more i think about all those surgical operations its really scary even though im once a preparatory med-student im still scared of those procedures they been doing, but well im not to a judge to that its their choice, i just hope they won't abuse their body or be put to the extend they've been doing those things for somebody who is not worthy....

well thanx again Doc Alan, i've learned some added information about the medical field nowadays. :)

[Vische]

Vische. Nice pic, by the way...the Avatar.....whos painting is it?

Thank you lastlid, i painted that last year, its one of my current paintings. I also have another but its not finished yet cause its rather big and i'm still finding the right mood to paint cause when i'm in the mood i can finish one painting or drawing within a day :)

[lastlid]

Vanity etc and a drive towards perceived improvements isn't really a new thing......we are simply witnessing the 21st century versions of it, of which the content of your post is one of them. And evidently it is more widespread than we care to admit sometimes.

[lastlid]

Thank you lastlid, i painted that last year, its one of my current paintings. I also have another but its not finished yet cause its rather big and i'm still finding the right mood to paint cause when i'm in the mood i can finish one painting or drawing within a day :)
WOW Seriously, I like it. I like the colours. I get the impression that it has been done in an impressionistic way. Would I be correct?

[imagine]

Thank you lastlid, i painted that last year, its one of my current paintings. I also have another but its not finished yet cause its rather big and i'm still finding the right mood to paint cause when i'm in the mood i can finish one painting or drawing within a day :)

nice to be able to see your talent :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[mickcant]

you haven't looked at my thread on women prisoners in Oz in the 1920's :yikes:

:Help1:

Yes I did see them:omg:
But thats faces you are on about:Cuckoo:
Mick.:)

[imagine]

i see different directions of enhancements for the future, assuming there is one,:yikes:

surgery such as what this thread is about,

genetic enhancements, for different reasons, military perfect soldiers built to their pacific task, for looks,beuty, even to look like an animal , genetic changes to be able to survive on other planets to withstand different atmospheres and gravity,

then theres another kind, micro chips in our bodies and brains and robotic parts, its not sci fi anymore,

we have 2 thirds i think it is of our brain we do not use, what is it for? i think we will never know because of the direction we have taken, i believe the brain is supposed to evolve , but we ignore it and choose our destiny to be man made,
our brains are getting lazy and i think we have stunted natural evolving, it is said if you took a neanderthal, ( actualy i think i mean early modern man ) child from the past to present time there would be no difference,

we even teach our children to have lazy brains, they are taught to use calculaters rather than maths,

grey matter is just the same as any other part of our body, if it isnt used it will waste away :NoNo:

[lastlid]

..... and i'm still finding the right mood to paint cause when i'm in the mood i can finish one painting or drawing within a day :)

My ex wife was the same, if she was in a foul mood (which was quite common :icon_lol:) then she couldnt paint.

[Vische]

WOW Seriously, I like it. I like the colours. I get the impression that it has been done in an impressionistic way. Would I be correct?

I kinda seen that picture on one of the books i've bought and i paint it with my nephews and im teaching them that its easy to paint if you like your subject and then there it is. It was only painted first with coloring pencil then to make it more alive i paint water color. do you like it? its still in my room, coz actually most of my paintings was given to my friends as a gift so there are only two landscape painting, one portrait (based on three handsome guys), and i guess two fantasy paintings.

[Vische]

nice to be able to see your talent :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks imagine, its one of my talents :icon_lol: besides being pasaway

[Vische]

i see different directions of enhancements for the future, assuming there is one,:yikes:

surgery such as what this thread is about,

genetic enhancements, for different reasons, military perfect soldiers built to their pacific task, for looks,beuty, even to look like an animal , genetic changes to be able to survive on other planets to withstand different atmospheres and gravity,

then theres another kind, micro chips in our bodies and brains and robotic parts, its not sci fi anymore,

we have 2 thirds i think it is of our brain we do not use, what is it for? i think we will never know because of the direction we have taken, i believe the brain is supposed to evolve , but we ignore it and choose our destiny to be man made,
our brains are getting lazy and i think we have stunted natural evolving, it is said if you took a neanderthal, ( actualy i think i mean early modern man ) child from the past to present time there would be no difference,

we even teach our children to have lazy brains, they are taught to use calculaters rather than maths,

grey matter is just the same as any other part of our body, if it isnt used it will waste away :NoNo:

Your right about that imagine, im still thinking what are the purpose of the other parts of brain since mostly we didn't use it .... lol ...

I wish our brain will be used on good purpose though but it seems nowadays people tend to use it in a different way like physical beauty, dirty tricks, scams, robbery plan, gathering lots of different kinds of illegal drugs and even discovering the most dangerous illegal drugs, and so on, oh my .... i hope there still future ....

[Vische]

My ex wife was the same, if she was in a foul mood (which was quite common :icon_lol:) then she couldnt paint.

Yup that is so true when i was so inlove before i painted a landscape with just 1 night but when im not in the mood even a single drawing of an eye i can't make it right :icon_lol:

My mood is set while im listening to music that i want that particular day if its opera, rock, hip hop, serene instrumental music, love song, or children song, it depends really but in every paint and drawing i had, im always amaze when i finish it, that's why i gave it to my friends cause i want to share the feeling i had when i paint it. But the wrong thing i've done is i didn't take a picture of my works so they maybe all-over the world since i had a friend in US then that request for their portrait so i don't know where they are now :icon_lol:

[lastlid]

Yup that is so true when i was so inlove before i painted a landscape with just 1 night but when im not in the mood even a single drawing of an eye i can't make it right :icon_lol:

My mood is set while im listening to music that i want that particular day if its opera, rock, hip hop, serene instrumental music, love song, or children song, it depends really but in every paint and drawing i had, im always amaze when i finish it, that's why i gave it to my friends cause i want to share the feeling i had when i paint it. But the wrong thing i've done is i didn't take a picture of my works so they maybe all-over the world since i had a friend in US then that request for their portrait so i don't know where they are now :icon_lol:

Well, there you go. Probably a clue to indicate that they are sellable. They might turn up in Sothebys in 50 years from now and sell for millions.....

(My god, The Scream or one of its versions is up for sale soon.....interesting to see how much it goes for - they are expecting 80 million US dollars :yikes:.)

[Vische]

Well, there you go. Probably a clue to indicate that they are sellable. They might turn up in Sothebys in 50 years from now and sell for millions.....

(My god, The Scream or one of its versions is up for sale soon.....interesting to see how much it goes for - they are expecting 80 million US dollars :yikes:.)

Ohhh that's one of my dream to sell my artworks in Sothebys, i just wish it will be sooner hahaha..... Thanks for the encouragement lastlid, i'm very thankful you appreciate one of my works :)

[lastlid]

Enough of this chat about art as people will think this is an art forum :icon_lol:.

[Vische]

Enough of this chat about art as people will think this is an art forum :icon_lol:.

Oh ok i forgot we're in a medical field forum 'genitalia' hehehe .... I think the media and the sales marketing of products and models make people more prone to this vanity they want cause they think its the right perfection to beauty. ... I think when i was a kid or teenage girl is that teeth braces is really a big medical procedure to beautify ourselves but now the procedures are huge .... :omg:

[lastlid]

I have to plead ignorance here. I know nothing about Philippine art. But it is evident that there is a lot of talent in terms of music there, so why not a lot of talent in the art world, I ask myself....

[Vische]

I have to plead ignorance here. I know nothing about Philippine art. But it is evident that there is a lot of talent in terms of music there, so why not a lot of talent in the art world, I ask myself....

Yeah its true there are lots people with art talents here, i started drawing and painting when i was little and my first ever great artwork is when i was ten and i join the contest when i was 12 but i didn't take it seriously i said to myself that its only one of my hobby that's why i didn't finish my drawing in the contest but my brother won in high school division. When i was high school i won an interpretative art contest in our class there's a theme and i'm the only one get it right although my painting/drawing is simple .... Maybe this year Filipinos will be known in the world of art :xxgrinning--00xx3: wait and see

[lastlid]

My personal opinion is that there is a lot of yet untapped talent in the Philippines.....

[Vische]

My personal opinion is that there is a lot of yet untapped talent in the Philippines.....

I agree with you on that .... :xxgrinning--00xx3: