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joebloggs
28th May 2012, 10:58
Every year hundreds of thousands of nurses are trained in the Philippines, despite the fact that most of them have no hope of finding a nursing job at home or abroad.



http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/is-the-filipino-nursing-dream-turning-into-a-nightmare.html

Doc Alan
28th May 2012, 14:30
We’ve known this for some time now ( http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/35967-Nursing-links?highlight=Nursing+links ). Clinical experience is not only safe and sensible, but it’s also actually a requirement by our Nursing and Midwifery Council ( NMC ) before acceptance on their register to work in the UK. “ Topping up “ an overseas nursing degree by taking the final year of a UK nursing degree simply adds more time before full time practising on the wards.
The irony here is that we DO need more nurses in the UK, Philippines healthcare would not suffer if we could recruit them, and – in my opinion – it’s not necessary to have UK nursing a graduate –only profession . This just puts off girls and boys who might have all the necessary skills for good nursing care. In the short term at least, sadly if a filipino asks about a career in nursing, the realistic answer has to be “ Think again “ , and there are other options to consider in the UK.

lastlid
28th May 2012, 15:39
I am sure I read that they are laying nurses off, in the UK, just now.....

Doc Alan
28th May 2012, 16:29
There are slightly fewer nurses working in the NHS than last year. This is likely to get worse with NHS “cost savings “ ( budget cuts ), low morale and possibly 2/5 UK nurses wanting to leave their jobs – without being replaced. This cannot improve healthcare – that’s why I said we need more, not less, nurses. Ask any nurse – or read what Peter Carter ( Royal College of Nursing ) has to say :- “ Despite the rhetoric, we know that frontline jobs are not being protected and NHS trusts must stop making cuts in a quick fix attempt to save money… the idea that cutting hundreds of jobs from a hospital will not affect the care of patients is ludicrous. “ Money is not even saved by being forced into employing agency nurses.
Girls and boys who want to enter a caring profession like nursing mostly don’t envisage doing paperwork and sitting behind a computer screen. They want to give – and the public expects – hands-on nursing. Only a minority wish to be academics, “ too posh to wash “. Graduate nurses do make a vital contribution to health care. But the topic of this thread – a Filipino nursing dream turning to a nightmare, could, for rather different reasons, apply also to the UK.

Rosie1958
28th May 2012, 23:04
Such a shame ......

The Irish niece of a friend of mine has just secured a nursing job in Australia, where I understand that they are crying out for all types of skilled labour.

gWaPito
28th May 2012, 23:29
There are slightly fewer nurses working in the NHS than last year. This is likely to get worse with NHS “cost savings “ ( budget cuts ), low morale and possibly 2/5 UK nurses wanting to leave their jobs – without being replaced. This cannot improve healthcare – that’s why I said we need more, not less, nurses. Ask any nurse – or read what Peter Carter ( Royal College of Nursing ) has to say :- “ Despite the rhetoric, we know that frontline jobs are not being protected and NHS trusts must stop making cuts in a quick fix attempt to save money… the idea that cutting hundreds of jobs from a hospital will not affect the care of patients is ludicrous. “ Money is not even saved by being forced into employing agency nurses.
Girls and boys who want to enter a caring profession like nursing mostly don’t envisage doing paperwork and sitting behind a computer screen. They want to give – and the public expects – hands-on nursing. Only a minority wish to be academics, “ too posh to wash “. Graduate nurses do make a vital contribution to health care. But the topic of this thread – a Filipino nursing dream turning to a nightmare, could, for rather different reasons, apply also to the UK.
I agree with this post...the situation wont continue...the nursing profession is certainly a profession to admire...its a shame some unscrupulous hospitals in the Philippines are taking advantage of the need for raw recruites to get hands on experience by changing for it..when times are hard for the economy the key workers always take the brunt of cut backs..its nothing new.

Terpe
29th May 2012, 12:12
[I]..........Without clinical practice they are unemployable as qualified nurses.

To make matters worse, many hospitals actually charge nurses to work on their wards in order to gain on the job experience!....

Yep, we know all about that.

Our daughter is currently working in the hospital as a nurse. She works for free to maintain her level of knowledge and experience.
Of course she would want to get paid, but really not much chance just yet. The important thing is that she is willing and she really enjoys what she does.

We gave her the best gift we could in her education.
She graduated from Davao Doc.

benjy
29th May 2012, 13:23
sad and hard times!:NoNo:

Lancashirelad
29th May 2012, 17:55
Yep, we know all about that.

Our daughter is currently working in the hospital as a nurse. She works for free to maintain her level of knowledge and experience.
Of course she would want to get paid, but really not much chance just yet. The important thing is that she is willing and she really enjoys what she does.

We gave her the best gift we could in her education.
She graduated from Davao Doc.

My wife also graduated from Davao Doctors college! She is currently working in a care home here in Fleetwood and is looking to become a RN in the UK next year.

lastlid
29th May 2012, 19:10
My daughter has effectively been a (diatetic) nursing assistant for the last 7 years. She is finallly finishing her RN exams after a fair bit of study and seems to have a job as an RN at the end of it.

Terpe
30th May 2012, 11:39
My wife also graduated from Davao Doctors college! She is currently working in a care home here in Fleetwood and is looking to become a RN in the UK next year.

What year did she graduate?