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Terpe
30th June 2012, 11:35
Two recent reports offer snapshots of the Chinese and the Filipino in the 21st Century. With tensions simmering between China and the Philippines, they offer useful insights.



Source:-
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/42341/chinese-and-filipino-in-the-world-of-dangerous-stereotypes

CBM
30th June 2012, 12:29
Thank you for that. I have spent much of my working life living in, and/or or involved with, China and the Philippines, and that looks right to me.



Here's a start...

http://southseaconversations.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/sohu-readers-eviscerate-global-times-editorial-on-south-china-sea/

CBM
30th June 2012, 12:42
A bit more background reading here:

This is an American article, but after five years in Beijing I recognise this landscape very well...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77915.html?fb_action_ids=340152839394397&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

and here is a nce article, very well researched, in Bloomberg, on the family of the next President of China:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-29/xi-jinping-millionaire-relations-reveal-fortunes-of-elite.html

It is, literally, Orwellian...

"Somehow it seemed as though the farm had grown richer without making the animals themselves any richer — except, of course, for the pigs and the dogs.


" ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."...

CBM
30th June 2012, 13:34
Once through the Great Firewall of China, things are a little different.

Twitter = Weibo

Google = Baidu

Both are censored and activity is watched. Experts can tunnel through the Great Firewall and they use clever witty names for forbidden subjects.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18648050

lastlid
30th June 2012, 15:37
I just feel that the Chinese juggernaut is just going to keep rolling on....and at the very least try its luck with the South China Sea / West Philippine Sea

lastlid
30th June 2012, 15:45
Boracay loses 200,000 Chinese visitors

"The territorial row between the Philippines and China has taken its toll on Boracay Island, which lost around 200,000 Chinese visitors after travel agencies from Beijing suspended travel packages to Manila last May.



http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/29/12/boracay-loses-200000-chinese-visitors

CBM
30th June 2012, 16:13
They will be going to Thailand and quite possibly to China's own "tropical paradise", Hainan, instead. The Chinese media have been whipping up the idea that the Philippines is unsafe for Chinese visitors.

What this really shows is the weakness of depending on tourism for income.

lastlid
30th June 2012, 16:23
What this really shows is the weakness of depending on tourism for income.

Fair point.

Terpe
30th June 2012, 20:01
I've made no analysis, but just asking the question, does the Philippines depend significantly on income from Chinese tourism?
I hope that's not the case.
The Philippines is where I will spend my future (God Willing!)

China's strategic positioning for world dominance has long been my soap box stance.
They have taken the tactics of perfidious economics and made them appear harmless. They are not.

China will always take jobs money and security away from us.

The world will become a different place. And yes, China will rape us all.
Look more deeply and see that Pinas has already been raped by China. Only abuse left to remain.

Whoops sorry folks I drifted into another weekend rant..
Blame CBM and lastlid for getting me wound up

CBM
30th June 2012, 21:12
Frightfully sorry, old chap. I asked the same question of some well connected friends, about a month ago, and was told "yes" - Chinese inbound tourism had become quite significant.

Hong Kong arrivals had been depressed after the Rizal Park massacre, in August 2010:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_hostage_crisis

but Mainland arrivals were running at about double those numbers in 2011.

From memory we are looking at around 220,000(?) arrivals in 2011 with 140,000 (?) or so being Mainland arrivals.

This is a significant chunk of the Philippines tourist business - probably more than ten per cent.

Hong Kongers will not give a second thought to what the Mainland wants them to do, but unfortunately the Rizal Park massacre has already done a fine job of putting them off the Philippines.

I will see if I can find the actual figures, and post them.

There is also the PRC's ban on imports of Philippines agricultural produce, which is or roughly the same order of magnitude, but it will be easier to sell those exports elsewhere than to replace missing tourists.

CBM
30th June 2012, 21:22
I should just add that after 15 years of working for, and in, Mainland China, I am pretty confident that China will not be taking over the planet any time soon*, but China does represent a real threat to the Philippines, because the Government dare not show weakness in their position in the South China Sea.

* The curious may like to Google the current Mainland word "shanzhai". Shanzhai products, shanzhai banks, shanzhai political system...

lastlid
30th June 2012, 21:29
Haha. My wife had a shanzai iPhone......:icon_lol:

She said it cost about £60.

It was definitely of significantly inferior quality.