Disgraceful Footballers

[Dedworth]

Fury as Welsh and Scots snub National Anthem: Captain Giggs stayed silent for God Save The Queen


Footballer Kim Little and another Scottish player, Ifeoma Dieke, stood silently before Great Britain’s opening match against New Zealand last night
Welsh footballers Ryan Giggs and Craig Bellamy were both criticised for failing to sing at the first British men’s football match of the Olympics


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179523/London-2012-Olympics-Fury-Welsh-Scots-snub-National-Anthem.html#ixzz21lty58M5

[RickyR]

I wonder when people will realise that footballers are as bad as the bankers.

[Dedworth]

This disrespectful act provides further evidence of what an unsavoury character Giggs is - with his trrack record of playing the part of Mr Whiter than White whilst comitting multiple adultery then trying to use the legal system to keep it secret

[joebloggs]

i dont know what the fuss is about, he's got his reasons - what ever they are ,if he didn't want to play for GBR then he wouldn't be there :doh and he probably hasn't lived in Wales since he played for Man city back in 1985 and he played for England U16's in 1989 :D

[Dedworth]

He should be stripped of his OBE

[joebloggs]

maybe he's not a royalist :rolleyes: or worse tone deaf :rolleyes:
I'm no fan of the royal family but it doesn't mean I'm less patriotic than a royalist :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[lastlid]

And then we have John Terry. Bringing the game into disrepute....

A disgrace...

[joebloggs]

And then we have John Terry. Bringing the game into disrepute....

no :NoNo::doh John Angel Terry is a Chelsea player he can't do no wrong :kissass:

[gWaPito]

i dont know what the fuss is about, he's got his reasons - what ever they are ,if he didn't want to play for GBR then he wouldn't be there :doh and he probably hasn't lived in Wales since he played for Man city back in 1985 and he played for England U16's in 1989 :D

Exactly Joe...its a bit like Sean Connery, while holed up in his Monaco abode being the standard bearer for Scottish independence :NoNo:

[Iani]

Well, I do wonder if part of the problem is the habit of the ENGLAND football team using "God Save The Queen" as their national anthem? It turns the anthem of the UK into that of England - and will do anything but endear it to those in Scotland and Wales.

I don't really care of the political opinions of Mr "lets use legal processes to cover up the fact I can't keep it in my pants" Giggs, but he might have a number of reasons not for singing it. You'll notice in England games how many don't sing it anyway, maybe he thought he might get stick from the Welsh for singing it. Problem is, to many nowadays, being British seems to mean more being English.
It doesn't mean Giggs wants to break up the UK (Very few Welsh do)

If he did, then it would make him an incredible hypocrite for agreeing to be on Team GB.

Now moving on to Little...........................:rolleyes:

[lastlid]

To be honest, I am not a Man U fan. But I do respect Gigg's as a professional on the field of play and as a footballer. Like Iani, I dont care about his love life. And I dont care if he sings the national anthem or not. And I don't care how Gobby Garry Neville sings it. I do wish Giggs had the presence of mind to play for England at the appropriate moment in time.

I also admire John Terry as a footballer. But I don't much like his recent adverse conduct on the field.

[Dedworth]

An excellent piece from Des Kelly re Germ Giggs and the other scumbags

Let's hear it if you're British

Every Olympian would agree there is nothing like the overwhelming pride they feel when chosen to represent their country.

Yes, they are all individual competitors going for gold, but that sense of being part of their national team in a contest which brings out the best in nations is what the Olympics is all about.

And yet on Thursday, the captain of Team GB’s men’s football team, Welshman Ryan Giggs, pointedly refused to sing God Save The Queen at his side’s opening match.

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The first is to show some respect for the flag they are here to represent. And one of the ways to do that is to sing the anthem.

The sight of Welsh players standing there tight-lipped as the camera panned along the line of the British football team at Old Trafford on Thursday night was embarrassing. It was rude, dispiriting and out of keeping with the Olympian spirit.

This is a quite simple scenario. If you’re British enough to wear the Team GB badge and represent Britain at the Olympic Games then you should be British enough to sing the National Anthem.

That just happens to be God Save The Queen. So sing it. Of course, if any Welshman or woman, any Scot or Northern Irish soul decides in a private capacity they are unwilling to do this, they are perfectly entitled to that view. One of the great freedoms this country offers is the freedom to say parts of it stink. I actually think the anthem is a bit of a dirge. See?

But when you elect to represent the United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland on the world stage any claim to be ambivalent about the concept of Team GB disappears.

I’m staggered the Welsh players — and Ryan Giggs in particular —even put themselves in such an ignoble position. Their little gesture of silent protest was clearly pre-planned. So if coach Stuart Pearce knew in advance Giggs and Co had some kind of ‘issue’ with the anthem, then the Manchester United player should never have been chosen to captain the side in the first place.

As for the skipper, if the anthem really is such an ordeal to him, perhaps Giggs might also like to review the honour he received from the Queen in December of 2007 and stick his OBE in the post back to Mrs E Windsor c/o Buckingham Palace, London.

The idea that anyone is turning up for the Olympics on sufferance or with conditions attached to their participation is infuriating. Appearing at the London Olympics for Britain is an extraordinary privilege.

What on earth was the point of standing there like a dummy while the anthem played anyway? As gestures of dissent go, it was fairly puerile. It was hardly a Black Power salute circa 1968. And, the last time I checked, the Welsh were not an overtly oppressed race these days. If that were the case, Robbie Savage would not be allowed on television.

The posturing from our women footballers was equally preposterous. Two Scots, Kim Little and Ifeoma Dieke, refused to join in with God Save The Queen before their midweek victory over New Zealand.

Little told a radio interviewer: ‘I personally probably won’t sing (the National Anthem) but we’ll be standing there proud to represent the country. It’s just a personal choice for me.’

Someone should explain to Little that she has already made her personal choice. She could have stayed away; she could have chosen to stick with her Scottish allegiance rather than see it subsumed into Team GB. But, no, Little chose to be part of the team. So she should behave like part of the team.

This doesn’t often happen in other sports. The Welsh members of the women’s hockey team have no issue with the anthem. I cannot recall any dissent among the Scots in the cycling. Is football unique in its tribal arrogance?

Yes, there are English footballers who have declined to sing the anthem in the past. But Roy Hodgson has changed that and even a reluctant Wayne Rooney joined in at the European Championship.

Pearce should follow suit. No doubt some individual members of Team GB arrived at the athletes’ village under the impression they are running, jumping or throwing only for themselves. They are soon disabused of that notion.

They discover they are competing on behalf of all the proud and enthusiastic people who lined the streets for a fleeting glimpse of the Olympic torch as it passed by, regardless of wind, rain or blazing sun.

They find they are at London 2012 for the ordinary people who have scrimped and saved to buy a ticket to an event — ANY event — just so they can share in the greatest sporting occasion these isles will host in our lifetimes.

They are doing it for the tens of thousands in front of the big screens in the parks of London, Cardiff, Swansea, Edinburgh, Belfast and right across the UK; the tens of thousands in the stadia; the millions tuning in across the nation and the billions more watching around the globe. That is why the British public will cheer on competitors they might not know, in sports they don’t fully comprehend, as if they were rooting for a member of their family.

They are a part of Team GB too. That is the burden the lucky 541 who make up our Olympic team must bear.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2180111/Lets-hear-youre-British--Des-Kelly.html#ixzz21xE8VKAu

[lastlid]

I am as exasperated as you with this England Wales N.Ireland and Scotland thing when it comes to international football, particularly the Scots. But no need to take it out on Ryan Giggs.

[London_Manila]

Someone said that paying £27 million for the opening Olympic ceremony was not money well spent

Liverpool paid £35 million for one football player Andy Carrol ;)

I know what seems more value for money to me

[lastlid]

Someone said that paying £27 million for the opening Olympic ceremony was not money well spent

Liverpool paid £35 million for one football player Andy Carrol ;)

I know what seems more value for money to me

Well yeah. And how much did Chelsea pay for Torres?

[Dedworth]

Well yeah. And how much did Chelsea pay for Torres?

Loadsamoney :)

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[lastlid]

Heres an extract from the Daily Mail ( so it must be true.....:D)

John Terry is a foul-mouthed, philandering bully: So how did he become a champion of free speech?

"The trial of John Terry was a particularly British farce, from which nobody emerges with any credit.
Terry, himself, was cleared of racism but those who regard him as a foul-mouthed philanderer will have seen and heard little to change their minds. It’s probably unfair, but Bobby Moore he isn’t.
The beautiful game has been shown to be played now by some very unlovely people; playground bullies with two-word vocabularies, barnyard morals and bank accounts that could bail out Greece."

"Let’s level the playing field, not try to police the language. John Terry is an unlikely champion of free speech but if his trial makes us think again about all this, he might have done something useful off the pitch, for a change."



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2173656/John-Terry-foul-mouthed-philandering-bully-So-did-champion-free-speech.html#ixzz21xsqpPnW

[Dedworth]

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Dedworth]

I've just seen them do the National Anthems before the UAE match.

Giggs, Bellamy and at least 6 other scumbags stood there sullenly lips zipped shut, needless to say every member of the UAE team sang theirs.

I hope the UAE win and prevent Giigs and Co from progressing out of the group - the competition will be better off without them

[lastlid]

I've just seen them do the National Anthems before the UAE match.

Giggs, Bellamy and at least 6 other scumbags stood there sullenly lips zipped shut, needless to say every member of the UAE team sang theirs.

I hope the UAE win and prevent Giigs and Co from progressing out of the group - the competition will be better off without them

Who were the other "scumbags"? :D

[joebloggs]

they are footballers not applying for the X Factor :D
maybe its only you who cares dedworth, i dont think most people do :Erm: they care about GB winning :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Dedworth]

Who were the other "scumbags"? :D

the other Welsh gits, Cleverly, various others - I think it was only Richards and the Goalie singing

[gWaPito]

Someone said that paying £27 million for the opening Olympic ceremony was not money well spent

Liverpool paid £35 million for one football player Andy Carrol ;)

I know what seems more value for money to me

Well I said something along those lines...perhaps the money could of been spent saving the innocent lives being taken less than 4 hrs flight away in Syria....shame on the west standing by doing absolutely nothing.

Lets get real here...its only games..not life or death.

Cammeron and co have blood on there hands and will be made accountable.

[lastlid]

the other Welsh gits, Cleverly, various others - I think it was only Richards and the Goalie singing

Shoot the lot of em eh! :icon_lol:

[subseastu]

I've just seen them do the National Anthems before the UAE match.

Giggs, Bellamy and at least 6 other scumbags stood there sullenly lips zipped shut, needless to say every member of the UAE team sang theirs.

I hope the UAE win and prevent Giigs and Co from progressing out of the group - the competition will be better off without them

Why? Because a few of them aren't singing. Don't you think you're blowing this out of proportion? Surely its about standing behind your national team and supporting their progress through the competition not declaring they get knocked out because a few of them aren't singing the anthem. I'd have thought that their desire to play and win the gold for team GB would have been obvious by the fact that they are playing, not by their ability to bang out a tune. They could've refused to play for GB after all.

I don't think I'd have sung either being tone deaf, I wouldn't want to embarrass myself. Just let my actions on the pitch do the talking.

[malchard888]

Whenever u see the england football team play very few actually make any mouth movements during the national anthem, our rugby team on the other hand usually make a far better effort.

[subseastu]

Whenever u see the england football team play very few actually make any mouth movements during the national anthem, our rugby team on the other hand usually make a far better effort.

True. Just wondering about those over paid F1 drivers, Hamilton and Button. Do they sing the anthem with gusto when on the winners podium?

[bigmarco]

As far as I'm concerned Professional Footballers and Tennis Players should not be allowed in the Olympics. If winning Olympic Gold is not the pinnacle of your career then the sport has no place at the games.
This squad was picked not on ability but to keep all 4 associations happy. I'm surprised that Stuart Pearce allowed himself to be involved in this as he was not able to pick a squad to win the competition but merely to compete. I have not intention of following a team that contain low life like Giggs and Bellamy and the sooner they exit the competition the better.
I was also delighted to see the Miserable Murrays knocked out of the tennis doubles in the first round.
Anyone but Andy as far as I'm concerned.

[Dedworth]

A little publicised fact is that Welsh Patriot Mr Goody Two Shoes Giggs retired from playing for the Welsh National team in 2007 :icon_lol: