Immigration Video

[mickcant]

Hi all,:Wave:
I can only hope this has not yet been posted about Immigration
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

Mick.:)

[Dedworth]

Excellent :xxgrinning--00xx3: Sickeningly it is 100% correct

[Terpe]

It's a funny video, but I didn't laugh :cwm23:

[lordna]

I didnt laugh either....and thought it was blatantly racist.

[imagine]

i feel ill :repuke:

[lastlid]

I didnt laugh either....and thought it was blatently racist.

I am afraid to say, I think you are right.

[Dedworth]

Racist :laugher: it's a satirical parody of the farcical asylum system we have in this country.

Commenting upon and critiscising immigration and asylum issues ceased to become racist when the Labour Party changed their rule book 3 or so years ago

[andy222]

Superb and very true it should be sent to all the parties.

[lastlid]

Racist :laugher: it's a satirical parody of the farcical asylum system we have in this country.

Commenting upon and critiscising immigration and asylum issues ceased to become racist when the Labour Party changed their rule book 3 or so years ago

Theres a fine line there somewhere and this maybe crosses that line....:Erm:

[Dedworth]

I find it laughable that successive governments have allowed this country to become the destination of choice for some of the most despicable creatures on earth :cwm23:

[lastlid]

I find it laughable that successive governments have allowed this country to become the destination of choice for some of the most despicable creatures on earth :cwm23:

You are right. But the focus should be on the said governments.

[Dedworth]

You are right. But the focus should be on the said governments.

Quite right but videos like this serve a very useful purpose in highlighting the abuse of the so called asylum system to Joe Public

[lastlid]

They can also convey the wrong message. What if it were some people from South East Asia that featured in the video? How would we feel then?

[Dedworth]

They can also convey the wrong message. What if it were some people from South East Asia that featured in the video? How would we feel then?

Other than some Vietnamese nail bar operatives/dope growers I can't think of any folks from S E Asia taking advantage of our pathetic "system" so that issue doesn't really come up. As has been discussed many times on here Filipinos are amongst the most industrious and law abiding, best integrated and least sponging groups of migrants in this country.

Where the video was highly inaccurate was showing hordes of veiled women - normally the women and children are abandoned to face the savage regimes the so called "asylum seekers" are fleeing from. Most of these germs are males under 40 years of age.

[lastlid]

As has been discussed many times on here Filipinos are amongst the most industrious and law abiding, best integrated and least sponging groups of migrants in this country.


( You have just described my wife there.) Of course. We know that but other viewers of the video might not.


Where the video was highly inaccurate was showing hordes of veiled women - normally the women and children are abandoned to face the savage regimes the so called "asylum seekers" are fleeing from. Most of these germs are males under 40 years of age.

Not sure if I am reading you right here but you appear to be acknowledging that the video is a little inappropriate. Enough said.

[mickcant]

Sorry if this caused any bother; I posted it because I thought it was funny and showed that those who do nothing get the most out of our government.

I did not look for anything racial in it!
Mick:)

[Arthur Little]

Hi all,:Wave:
I can only hope this has not yet been posted about Immigration
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

Mick.:)

:yeahthat:'s just about the size of it, Mick ... BRILLIANT! :xxgrinning--00xx3: And no ... I cannot recall it being shown here before ... NOR do I consider it racist. :NoNo: Thanks for sharing, :D my friend.

[lastlid]

Sorry if this caused any bother; I posted it because I thought it was funny and showed that those who do nothing get the most out of our government.

I did not look for anything racial in it!
Mick:)

No problem. I thought it was funny too. A bit "borderline" though. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Dedworth]

( You have just described my wife there.) Of course. We know that but other viewers of the video might not.



Not sure if I am reading you right here but you appear to be acknowledging that the video is a little inappropriate. Enough said.

Not inappropriate Last - inaccurate in that it deflected from the fact that most asylum seekers are single males who have abandoned their womenfolk and children. The veiled women shots however do provoke thoughts of other negative aspects of immigration ie failure and refusal to integrate, I've not got the time to debate that one at present :D

[lastlid]

Not inappropriate Last - inaccurate in that it deflected from the fact that most asylum seekers are single males who have abandoned their womenfolk and children. The veiled women shots however do provoke thoughts of other negative aspects of immigration ie failure and refusal to integrate, I've not got the time to debate that one at present :D

Me neither. :D I don't think it ought to go out on national telly though....or should it?

[lastlid]

Nick Van Riel...the videos author... he is probably a good pal of Anders Breivik...

BERLIN (Reuters) - "German investigators have linked an unsolved series of murders of eight foreign-born food vendors and shopowners, nicknamed the "doner murders" to a neo-Nazi terrorist cell, the federal prosecutors' office said on Friday.
They also linked the same neo-Nazi group to the killing of a policewoman in Heilbronn in southwest Germany in 2007.
Police searching a burned-out motorhome in the eastern German town of Zwickau found the bodies of two men suspected of having taken part in the Heilbronn attack on two police officers, when the female agent was killed and her male colleague injured.
They also found, in the charred motorhome and a house nearby which had also been set ablaze, the two handguns used in the police woman's murder and the so-called "doner murders" that took place between 2000 and 2006. They also discovered neo-Nazi videos.
Federal Prosecutor Rainer Griesbaum said the deaths of the seven men of Turkish origin and one Greek, who owned or worked at shops all around the country which included doner kebab stands, would now be treated as suspected acts of terrorism.
"There is sufficient evidence to attribute the murders to an extreme right-wing group," said a statement from the Federal Prosecutors' Office."
http://stayonalert.blogspot.com/2011/11/nick-van-riel-arrested.html

[Arthur Little]

Superb and very true it should be sent to all the parties.

:iagree:, Andy ... you've 'hit the nail on the head' :action-smiley-060: with your suggestion that it OUGHT to be circulated across the entire political spectrum.

[mickcant]

Me neither. :D I don't think it ought to go out on national telly though....or should it?

I thought youtube was more watched than TV:icon_lol:
Mick:)

[lordna]

The veiled women shots however do provoke thoughts of other negative aspects of immigration ie failure and refusal to integrate, I've not got the time to debate that one at present :D

I dont think that veiled women is a sign of failure and refusal to integrate. One of the good things about this country is that people are free to practice or be involved in whatever religion they choose and dress how they like. It seems there are some on this forum that would maybe prefer that Hitler had invaded this country and imposed his ideals.

There also seem to be a few that dont find the video racist. To be quite frank i find this unbelievable! What if, as someone else has said, the pictures were of Filipino's....there would be plenty who would complain then.

At the moment we still have the right for our spouses to settle here, albeit a bit expensive. That right extends to ANY nationality as long we and they play by the rules. I am glad to live amongst ALL nationalities and in my opinion this is one thing that makes Britain Great!

[lastlid]

Nick Van Riel's "educational" website.....

http://apostates.weebly.com/

[lastlid]

Nick Van Riels website .... on the Norwegian massacre....I wonder to what degree some might concur with Nick Van Riel and what he stands for?

"I express my sincere condolences to the relatives of the people that died in the two terror attacks in Norway.

Anders Behring Breivik, the person who committed these vile attacks was presented by the media to be a conservative Christian and a Freemason.
However this statement raises questions since...

“Freemasonry is in direct conflict with the Bible in that Masonry condones communal worship of a generic deity”

"To respect all forms of worship, to tolerate all political and religious opinions; not to blame, and still less to condemn the religion of others; not to seek to make converts; but to be content if they have the religion of Socrates; a veneration for the Creator, the religion of good works, and grateful acknowledgment of God's blessings." (Morals and Dogma, p.333)

http://melchizedek-sks.synthasite.com/resources/3457792-Morals-and-Dogma-of-a-Council-of-Kadosh.pdf

Many people say that Norway lost its innocence after these attacks, but Norway isn't that innocent at all!

It's terrible that these attacks killed so many people, but we have to stay with reality.

By subsidizing these Youth Camps with tax payers money, the Norwegians themselves created the base for growing not so innocent socialistic leaders.

So the youngsters killed in this vile attack weren't that innocent at all.

THESE YOUNGSTERS WERE IN BED WITH ISLAM ALREADY

One day before the attack they were visited by their socialist FM Jonas Gahr Store.

As the FM arrived at Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.

“The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.”

Earlier last week, when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visited Norway, the FM said to TV2 News Channel that
"Norway stands ready to recognize a Palestinian state."

This he repeated during the debate on Utøya.

“We are ready to recognize a Palestinian state. I await the actual resolution text Palestinians will promote the UN General Assembly in September, said the Minister.”

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/07/24/norway-youth-camp-had-a-boycott-israel-rally/

With their combined program of holiday fun and classes about politics, I call it indoctrination, the Norwegian socialists managed to transform Norway into a weak country with weak leaders.

As a matter of fact this Youth Camp doesn't differ too much from the former NAZI summer camps.

Adolf Hitler was a socialist and a leftist!

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/hitler.html

The NAZIs had the same combined programs, with one extra issue; the military drill, but the youngsters on the island were not too far away from it. "



http://apostates.weebly.com/terror-attacks-in-norway.html

[imagine]

our rights are being eroded, from what iv seen and learnt we dont have the right to bring our spouses here to uk:Erm:

its not so much the veil, but the religeon that does not intergrate to western society,

unlike some Filipino's. are hard working and intergrate

the video wether it is considered racist or not it is humour and fact,

if hitler had won the war, :Erm: no racism, one race, no wars, decent motorways, no unemployment:Erm:

[lastlid]

our rights are being eroded, from what iv seen and learnt we dont have the right to bring our spouses here to uk:Erm:

its not so much the veil, but the religeon that does not intergrate to western society,

unlike some Filipino's. are hard working and intergrate

the video wether it is considered racist or not it is humour and fact,

if hitler had won the war, :Erm: no racism, one race, no wars, decent motorways, no unemployment:Erm:

And more World Cups....:D

[lastlid]

It just crossed my mind that there could be members who's wives are Islamic.....

[imagine]

It just crossed my mind that there could be members who's wives are Islamic.....

is lam as they intergrate is all that matters:D

[lastlid]

is lam as they intergrate is all that matters:D

These are the jokes folks. :D

[Dedworth]

I dont think that veiled women is a sign of failure and refusal to integrate. One of the good things about this country is that people are free to practice or be involved in whatever religion they choose and dress how they like. It seems there are some on this forum that would maybe prefer that Hitler had invaded this country and imposed his ideals.

There also seem to be a few that dont find the video racist. To be quite frank i find this unbelievable! What if, as someone else has said, the pictures were of Filipino's....there would be plenty who would complain then.

At the moment we still have the right for our spouses to settle here, albeit a bit expensive. That right extends to ANY nationality as long we and they play by the rules. I am glad to live amongst ALL nationalities and in my opinion this is one thing that makes Britain Great!

To be quite frank I find it unbelievable that there are some deluded fools on this forum who wouldn't mind in the slightest if rule playing filth like this were housed next door to them.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/340039/Refugees-made-our-lives-hell-too-say-neighbours

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/14/article-2188075-148A872E000005DC-776_634x614.jpg

A FAMILY of refugees who face .eviction for allegedly trashing their £1.25million taxpayer-funded home had moved from a previous exclusive address after causing trouble, it emerged yesterday.

Palestinian Manal Mahmoud and her seven children face eviction today, after claims of anti-social behaviour and causing damage to the Victorian house, where the £20,000-a-year rent is paid by the state.

The jobless 40-year-old sparked outrage when she claimed she “deserved” to live in the three-bedroomed property in Greswell Street, near the Thames in Fulham, south-west London.

Yesterday, former neighbours claimed the family had made their life a misery when they lived in an almost identical £1.2million house in Anselm Road a mile away.

[lastlid]

And I suppose there are some deluded fools on this forum who wouldn't mind in the slightest if rule playing filth like this were housed next door to them.

:icon_lol: Thats a daft thing to say. You are not being very discerning with your overall wide brush approach.

[Dedworth]

:icon_lol: Thats a daft thing to say. You are not being very discerning with your overall wide brush approach.

I thought the just same about the predictable, infantile Hitler racist jibes. I've heard it all before, water off a ducks back, Apo springs to mind :)

[lastlid]

I thought the just same about the predictable, infantile Hitler racist jibes. I've heard it all before, water off a ducks back, Apo springs to mind :)

No Hitler racist jibes intended. Just pointed out the connection between the author of the video in the thread and the content of his website and his stand on the Breivik circumstance in Norway.

[lastlid]

The funny thing is, I agree with a lot of what you say, I just think you go a bit too far.

[Dedworth]

The funny thing is, I agree with a lot of what you say, I just think you go a bit too far.

Thanks Last – sorry for any misunderstanding my jibes comment wasn’t aimed at you but Lordna’s post #24 where predictably any views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and comical asylum policies are deemed racist.

As I mentioned earlier up the thread the labourites stopped such cheap comments a few years ago and their line now starts "While the Labour Party does agree that immigration must be controlled.............................."

Anyway 'nuff said must get on with some work :D

[Rhose]

Sorry if this caused any bother; I posted it because I thought it was funny and showed that those who do nothing get the most out of our government.

I did not look for anything racial in it!
Mick:)
yeah it's funny Mick but everybody has kind of interpretation that can't laugh on this video especially the rule of the goverment.

[joebloggs]

Theres a fine line there somewhere and this maybe crosses that line....:Erm:

yes while most of us are working paying taxes and being good citizens of this country their are many people who crossed the thin line and took the :censored:, not just foreigners but Brits to :doh

[lastlid]

yes while most of us are working paying taxes and being good citizens of this country their are many people who crossed the thin line and took the :censored:, not just foreigners but Brits to :doh
Different kind of line, Joe.

[joebloggs]

Different kind of line, Joe.

same line to me, the line of the :piss2: takers, whether it be my unemployed neighbor getting a tan in his front garden while I go and work, or a fake Asylum seeker, Illegal immigrant or over stayer claiming benefits they might not be entitled to :NoNo:

racism is the same as every other prejudice - fat, thin, tall, small, bald, ginger you name it whats the difference ?

[imagine]

oh dear:Erm: whatever happened to good old sense of humour :D

[lastlid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqhoHYo54uA

Here is another variant. Same song. Some depicted in the video could easily be Filipinos.

I dont think the author of these videos is bothered about where these people come from or how. They are all tarred, by the author, with the same broad brush, regardless.

I notice that several of these versions of the same song visible in youtube, are linked to the BNP.

[lastlid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHx4in5WU5A

[lastlid]

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DDv9nbg23hNs

[joebloggs]

like i said i dont think its to do with immigration or asylum seekers, there are white British scroungers to , its just been used by extremist groups as an excuse.

[lastlid]

like i said i dont think its to do with immigration or asylum seekers, there are white British scroungers to , its just been used by extremist groups as an excuse. Adopted by extremist groups, you mean? Fair point.

I agree with the message to a degree and of course am peaced off about any scroungers regardless of race, just like you guys. I can understand the anger but feel it should be channeled in the right direction and of course legally. The politicians should be dealing with these issues in the right way. The "collection" of videos are also a little inflammatory and potentially counter productive......

[andy222]

:iagree:, Andy ... you've 'hit the nail on the head' :action-smiley-060: with your suggestion that it OUGHT to be circulated across the entire political spectrum.

The trouble is Arthur the polititions do not live in the real world. Lets face it if you were a millionaire living in a rural part of the country would you be interested in what is going on? I have said it before until it comes knocking on their doorstep (and it will) they wont do much about it.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

The "collection" of videos are also a little inflammatory and potentially counter productive......

... maybe the whole point of circulating *videos like these is in order that - sooner or later (preferably the former :pray:!) *they'll [hopefully] fall into the hands of shortsighted politicians whose blinkered approach to immigration issues in the past has been responsible for creating the mess this tiny island of ours now finds itself and, in turn (again, hopefully - though I wouldn't want to try holding my breath!) spur 'em on :poke: to "stemming the flow" of the wrong kind of immigrant before it's too late for the 'tide' to recede.

[lastlid]

... maybe the whole point of circulating *videos like these is in order that - sooner or later (preferably the former:pray:!) *they'll [hopefully] fall into the hands of shortsighted politicians whose blinkered approach to immigration issues in the past has been responsible for creating the mess this tiny island of ours now finds itself and, in turn (again, hopefully - though I wouldn't want to try holding my breath!) spur 'em on :poke: to "stemming the flow" of the wrong kind of immigrant before it's too late for the 'tide' to recede.

Well, I kind of agree with that too. But I think they can also be racially devisive. I dont want to see "Rivers of Blood" come to fruition / or fuel added to the flames.

[Arthur Little]

But I think they can also be racially devisive.

:) NOT AT ALL! :nono-1-1: ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!! :bigcry:


I dont want to see "Rivers of Blood"

Bring back Enoch! :D Oh ... and Alf Garnett! :laugher:

[lastlid]

:) NOT AT ALL! :nono-1-1: ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!! :bigcry:



Bring back Enoch! :D Oh ... and Alf Garnett! :laugher:

Sir Alf Garnett....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op66hqD3tNo&feature=player_embedded#!


"The character's name has become a standard description of anyone ranting at the world in general, and has even found its way into politics, Oswald Mosley dismissing Enoch Powell after his Rivers of Blood speech as "a Middle Class Alf Garnett", former Prime Minister Harold Wilson also criticising Powell for making Alf Garnett 'politically articulate' and conferring upon him 'a degree of political respectability' Denis Healey accusing Margaret Thatcher of possessing "the diplomacy of Alf Garnett"and more recently has been used in criticism of politicians such as Ken Livingstoneand John Reid. On 9 June 2010 during Prime Minister's questions David Cameron referred to Ed Balls as "the new Alf Garnett of British politics" following his comments on immigration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Garnett

Nice to see the 'Appy 'Ammers back where they belong. BTW

[Dedworth]

... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!! :bigcry:



Bring back Enoch! :D Oh ... and Alf Garnett! :laugher:

Thanks for the timely reminder Arthur of where Mick posted this gem - under HUMOUR :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[lastlid]

Thanks for the timely reminder Arthur of where Mick posted this gem - under HUMOUR :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Yes. But some didn't find it funny. Now, take yer Alf Garnett......thats funny.

[lastlid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhXpmozpbE&feature=player_embedded#!

More good immigration related satire?

[Dedworth]

Excellent Garnett stuff Last :xxgrinning--00xx3: I laughed my socks off - there would be criminal charges brought if that was braodcast today - c**n & p**i words used, choc ice is now on the banned list

[lastlid]

Excellent Garnett stuff Last :xxgrinning--00xx3: I laughed my socks off - there would be criminal charges brought if that was braodcast today - c**n & p**i words used, choc ice is now on the banned list

Yep. I was weaned on the stuff. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[lastlid]

Oh and will be nice to see the 'Appy 'Ammers bang a few past PetrCech too.....

[lastlid]

Brought to us by the late Johhny Speight, from Canning Town, West Ham....

Curry and Chips / Till Death Us Do Part etc

"In 1965, Speight wrote a BBC TV pilot which became the 1966 series Till Death Us Do Part featuring Warren Mitchell as Alf Garnett, a reactionary Conservative-voting working class man with a chip on his shoulder and an angry word on everything. Garnett became one of the most memorable characters in British TV history, despite being such an appalling figure. "

"Speight's later series Curry and Chips (1969), was a more controversial sitcom from LWT for the ITV channel, soon cancelled on the instructions of the Independent Broadcasting Authority. Despite the apparent anti-political correctness, Speight's intention—like in Till Death Us Do Part—was to highlight discrimination, not promote it".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Speight

[lordna]

:) NOT AT ALL! :nono-1-1: ... Mick has posted this collection of videos in the 'Humour Section' where he intended it to be - and WHERE it belongs! Sometimes we really have to laugh. Otherwise - given the state of the nation - we'd end up in tears!! :bigcry:Bring back Enoch! :D Oh ... and Alf Garnett! :laugher:

I think i am right in saying the Nazis started thier hate campaign against the Jews by first making people believe it was funny to poke fun at their mannerisms etc. what started as humour quickly escalated to a full blown hate campaign of segregation, starvation, persecution and deaths on a massive scale not since (thankfully) repeated.

There is nothing humorous or funny about racism.

Clearly this video and one like it are circulated by the BNP. If forum members find it funny and think politicians need to be aware of its content then maybe they would also like to vote BNP. Personally its the last thing i would want but we live in a democratic society so please go ahead.

For the record i welcome views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and our crazy system for asylum seekers...BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

[lastlid]

.....BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

I do agree with that.

[bigmarco]

For the record i welcome views questioning the sanity of open door immigration and our crazy system for asylum seekers...BUT there is a right way and wrong way to bring about change to this...and Racism isnt the answer however humorous forum members might find it.

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

[lastlid]

Perhaps you can enlighten us on the right way because the 3 main parties have been in power in the last 10 years and none of them seems to have the balls to tackle the problem.
Yep the video was probably made by a racist but I viewed it and ddidn't find it funny, but take the same view as Dedworth,its a parody of whats going on in this country today.

The core issue has been going on a bit longer than that. One could argue that it goes back as far as the first world war when the Indian folk were fighting for us.:Erm: etc etc

Also....

"Following the end of the Second World War, the British Nationality Act 1948 was passed to allow the 800 million subjects in the British Empire to live and work in the United Kingdom without needing a visa. These people filled a gap in the UK labour market for unskilled jobs and many people were specifically brought to the UK on ships such as the Empire Windrush."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom_since_1922

Our immigration problems are also linked to the more distant past.

[bigmarco]

The core issue has been going on a bit longer than that. You could argue that it goes back as far as the first world war when the Indian folk were fighting for us in WW1.:Erm:

I see the problems as much more recent. My parents along with many other immigrants came to this country in the 1950's to work and build a better life for themselves.
What we have now with current immigration and asylum policies and the free movement of people within the EU is people making a decision to come to this country to make a better life for themselves AT OUR EXPENSE. It's wrong and its unsustainable if it continues as it is.

[lastlid]

I see the problems as much more recent. My parents along with many other immigrants came to this country in the 1950's to work and build a better life for themselves.
What we have now with current immigration and asylum policies and the free movement of people within the EU is people making a decision to come to this country to make a better life for themselves AT OUR EXPENSE. It's wrong and its unsustainable if it continues as it is.

Agreed. But don't agree with a racist approach. I sincerely hope that nobody adopts that (in the video) approach towards my wife. And I can see how easily such folk could relate to the first video and include her too. Such folk are not always discerning about someones origin and normally generalise and as such I see the video as potentially harmful and devisive. We on the forum know the difference between a Filipina on a Spouse visa and a scrounging chap from the Indian subcontinent but not all racists are that enlightened or care.

[joebloggs]

I think i am right in saying the Nazis started thier hate campaign against the Jews by first making people believe it was funny to poke fun at their mannerisms etc. .

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

[Michael Parnham]

I agree!

[lastlid]

let's not forget the Nazis just didnt kill Jews, they also killed Communists, liberals, homosexuals, gypsies and many other innoncent groups.

Yes. All the more reason to be aware that modern day racists could so easily vent their anger / focus on Indians / Pakistanis / Philippinos etc etc I dont imagine they ask to see ones passport before they commit a racially aggravated offence....

[lastlid]

Norway racism issue again. But 10 years before Breivik. I wonder how cautious these right wing activists were when they stabbed this mixed race Norwegian? Did they ask to see his passport (or visa) first?

"Hermansen, the son of a white Norwegian woman and a Ghanaian man, was stabbed to death near his home in an Oslo suburb.

Six people connected to Norway's small neo-Nazi community have been charged with his murder."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1161853.stm

[lastlid]

John Barnes......

"Former Liverpool and England winger John Barnes claims football's anti-racism initiatives are doing little to rid the problem from wider society.

And Barnes believes that until the country tackles its underlying issues on the subject, football's measures can only be superficial.

Racism has been high on the agenda throughout the season, most notably because of high-profile race rows involving Liverpool striker Luis Suarez and Chelsea captain John Terry.

Barnes, speaking at the Soccerex forum in Manchester, said: "As far as racism in football goes, until we get rid of racism in society, it will always be in football."


""We are looking at it the wrong way round, we have to cut it from society.

"All the legislation has been passed to sanction clubs or give life bans, fining, whatever; stealing has been illegal for years and people still steal. That is not going to get rid of racism.

"Are we trying to get rid of racism, or do we just not want to hear it? What we are doing is saying we just don't want to hear it.

"You can be as racist as you like for the other six days of the week, but coming to a football match you keep your mouth shut.

"Football can do nothing to get rid of racism."

Barnes, 48, was subjected to racist taunts during his career, particularly after joining Liverpool from Watford in 1987.
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