Romanians top league of overseas criminals

[Dedworth]

MIGRANTS BLAMED FOR SURGE IN CRIME


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/345680/Migrants-blamed-for-surge-in-crime

This comes as no surprise :cwm23:

[grahamw48]

Exactly...no surprise there then. :NoNo:

Imagine how much this is costing the taxpayer in these recessionary times.
Meanwhile old people who have contributed positively to this country of their birth all their lives can't get a bed in hospital. :angry:

The sooner this pathetic govt. gets their act together, grows some balls and starts looking after the interests of the British people the better ! :cwm23:

[Dedworth]

These are the same old peopole who these filthy scum will rob on the streets, in their homes and even in their hospital beds (if they are lucky enough to get a bed !)

[hawk]

ow if they just got rid of them we would be 12000 less in the uk and let us bring our wifes/partners here that will be good for the uk not like the scum they let stay even after there cought :censored:

[imagine]

Exactly...no surprise there then. :NoNo:

The sooner this pathetic govt. gets their act together, grows some balls and starts looking after the interests of the British people the better ! :cwm23:

but they talk a load of:icon_lol: balls

[CBM]

Would it be very wrong of me to suggest that we only need the first four letters of "Romanian"?

[gWaPito]

The only party right now with big enough balls to get us out of this mess is UKIP.

No messing about....we'll be pulled out of Europe and the drawbridge will be pulled up for the remainder.

The idle will be made to work...they'll have no choice, no eastern europeans to do the dirty work.

Had Thatcher's Conservative brand of goverment been in charge we wouldn't be in this mess. What we got...we got a bullcrap coalition with a liberal leader quoted yesterday in the Express saying ''those who are against gay marriage in a house of God are bigots''...the man is not only a disgrace to his party but also to humanity.

As for Cammeron...well, much the same...just wish I had the time to rant!.....:angry:

[grahamw48]

Totally agree...which is why I voted UKIP last time and will do so again. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

Totally agree...which is why I voted UKIP last time and will do so again. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I had been a conservative voter every since Thatcher...ive voted loyally come what may...this Cammeron really has messed this party up.

I did say I would be voting for the Greens in future...that of course would be a wasted vote...we all got the responsibility to take a proactive stance here...its our country for goodness sakes not a bunch of filth from basket case countries.....if voting for a watered down UKIP is gonna bring change...by freeing up our hospital beds...freeing up jobs and reducing the 2 million people on the council waiting all for the benefit of the indigenous British people then hell, my wife and I will be voting UKIP.

[grahamw48]

Yes, previously I was a Thatcherite too. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I was particularly grateful to her for massively increasing the price of energy, as at the time I was selling cavity wall insulation and making loads of dosh. :icon_lol:

...Like paying the deposit on my first house out of 2 weeks wages.

Wish I could do that now. :rolleyes:

[andy222]

MIGRANTS BLAMED FOR SURGE IN CRIME


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/345680/Migrants-blamed-for-surge-in-crime

This comes as no surprise :cwm23:

And how many filipinos Ded?

[Dedworth]

And how many filipinos Ded?

I think the league table stopped at 139th and I'd not spotted them Andy :)

[andy222]

The only party right now with big enough balls to get us out of this mess is UKIP.

No messing about....we'll be pulled out of Europe and the drawbridge will be pulled up for the remainder.

The idle will be made to work...they'll have no choice, no eastern europeans to do the dirty work.

Had Thatcher's Conservative brand of goverment been in charge we wouldn't be in this mess. What we got...we got a bullcrap coalition with a liberal leader quoted yesterday in the Express saying ''those who are against gay marriage in a house of God are bigots''...the man is not only a disgrace to his party but also to humanity.

As for Cammeron...well, much the same...just wish I had the time to rant!.....:angry:

If thatcher was in power now you would be paying medical insurance. There would be no NHS. But I suppose thats ok if your paying 40% in tax. Just like Cameron is trying to do. You have to look at the whole spectrum of things. Like our pensioners that have worked all their lives and put into the system. Would you deny them free health treatment? Just my opinion.

[gWaPito]

Yes, previously I was a Thatcherite too. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I was particularly grateful to her for massively increasing the price of energy, as at the time I was selling cavity wall insulation and making loads of dosh. :icon_lol:

...Like paying the deposit on my first house out of 2 weeks wages.

Wish I could do that now. :rolleyes:
Best described has the halcyon days for the majority of the British electorate...proven by the numerous years the great Margaret Thatcher was voted PM

[andy222]

I think the league table stopped at 139th and I'd not spotted them Andy :)

Just what I expected Ded thanks.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

If thatcher was in power now you would be paying medical insurance. There would be no NHS. But I suppose thats ok if your paying 40% in tax. Just like Cameron is trying to do. You have to look at the whole spectrum of things. Like our pensioners that have worked all their lives and put into the system. Would you deny them free health treatment? Just my opinion.

Pure guesswork...we dont know that would happened.

As for medical insurance...yes, I have a family cover....but that isn't unusual...its a growth industry.

[grahamw48]

I hope all those working class council tenants who Maggie gave 'right to buy' to are now enjoying the security of their property equity. That will pay for a lot of healthcare insurance...or a villa in Spain.

Personally I didn't agree with that policy (reducing social housing stock)....but again, lots of business opportunities for me when they started to improve their newly-acquired private homes. :)

[stevewool]

when will it all end, i say it will stay as it is for years, will it get worst, yes it will,

[malchard888]

I had been a conservative voter every since Thatcher...ive voted loyally come what may...this Cammeron really has messed this party up.

I did say I would be voting for the Greens in future...that of course would be a wasted vote...we all got the responsibility to take a proactive stance here...its our country for goodness sakes not a bunch of filth from basket case countries.....if voting for a watered down UKIP is gonna bring change...by freeing up our hospital beds...freeing up jobs and reducing the 2 million people on the council waiting all for the benefit of the indigenous British people then hell, my wife and I will be voting UKIP.

Me too, Nigel Farage is a politician i like a lot and i believe he has the right attitude to take this country forward

[Iani]

Best described has the halcyon days for the majority of the British electorate...proven by the numerous years the great Margaret Thatcher was voted PM

In all fairness, it does need to be remembered that Thatch was way behind in the polls, Labour were 20 points ahead IIRC, in fact the SDP was nosing ahead at one point..................then she went and won a war.

[grahamw48]

She did indeed...and good on her.

In other words, she showed leadership when it mattered.

Compare that with the bunch of tossers who have followed....busily letting the country go bankrupt and filling their pockets while the voters THOUGHT they were well off, and opening the floodgates to millions of parasites and crooks from the EU and beyond, who have helped destroy forever what little 'Britishness', independence and pride was left in the country. :NoNo:

The Tories were in power when I brought my ex-wife into this country for the princely sum of £40 visa fee... after a few simple requirements had been satisfied. My friend brought his Filipina girlfriend over for a holiday, with a similar lack of fuss.

[bigmarco]

Cant say I'm shocked at this story. I agree with steve it will probably get much worse. The thing is Politicians no longer serve they dictate. You need a massive swing to a minority party before they will ever sit up and take notice.There really is no big difference between the 2 main parties. The Tories talk tough on immigration but do nothing other than pick on the soft targets. The only real way forward for this country is a total withdrawl from the EU and EU control.

[grahamw48]

I agree with you on that Marco. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

Best described has the halcyon days for the majority of the British electorate...proven by the numerous years the great Margaret Thatcher was voted PM

:xxgrinning--00xx3: 3 million unemployed under Thatcher, inflation at 20%+ , stealing the countries assets and selling everything off that was British :doh, the good old days :rolleyes:

how many people remember 'the news at 10' and every day\ week trev mcdonald would say how many jobs had gone that week'

[imagine]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: 3 million unemployed under Thatcher, inflation at 20%+ , stealing the countries assets and selling everything off that was British :doh, the good old days :rolleyes:

how many people remember 'the news at 10' and every day\ week trev mcdonald would say how many jobs had gone that week'

True true

[grahamw48]

No Joe...that's was what she inherited from Labour. 25% inflation actually, and I was signing on those unemployed just before she got in. The country was on its knees because of out of control unions and people demanding pay rises of 35% (railway workers for example).

People sleeping though their shifts at BL.

The country needed a wake-up call.

Yes, she drifted later, but not until she and the Tories had brought the country back from the brink.

I was around then and I have a pretty good memory of events.

As soon as Bliar got in, everything started to turn to **** again. :NoNo:

[imagine]

theres never been a good gov wether cons or labour since before maggie,

yes there was too many stupid strikes over nothing, and it should have been stopped,

but i saw , be it my way, that the country began to fall in maggies reign
thats my opinion, uchangable:D

[grahamw48]

Hey, in 1979 I had just bought my first house at 26 (and single), ran an XJ6 Jag for work and a Lotus Seven for the weekend, plus a speedboat...out 7 nights a week clubbing it and worked about 12 hours a week for about 5 times the average wage at that time...but I was self-employed and it was earned through my own efforts.

What was not to like ? :)

[imagine]

married at 19, 3 kids by 26, my own house at 21 , housing market booming good wage cheap goods,

i never had less than 1 grand in my back pocket,, thats what i called loose change , but as her reign went on so did the country steadily fall ,

so i can only agree to dis agree :icon_lol:

then after her, came a spinless puffy new labour gov, not much different to any other party in its policies

[gWaPito]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: 3 million unemployed under Thatcher, inflation at 20%+ , stealing the countries assets and selling everything off that was British :doh, the good old days :rolleyes:

how many people remember 'the news at 10' and every day\ week trev mcdonald would say how many jobs had gone that week'

End of the day the customer (in this case, the electorate) is always right....it wasn't the pits everywhere Joe....where I lived unemployment was near zero.

You seem to have forgotten what the unemployment figures were before she took over from Callaghan....1 in 10 I believe...made famous by ub40.

[bigmarco]

I honestly believe that we are now paying the price for Maggies policy of selling of the crown jewels. Our Utilities are owned by everyone apart from the British,council housing sold off and never replaced and you can fly to the continent for what the railway companies charge for a ticket from London to Birmingham. Everyone moans about the price of Gas and Electricity but thats what happens when you privatise these industries.
Besides my main beef is that we're in the EU and I'll always blame the Tories for that.

[andy222]

I honestly believe that we are now paying the price for Maggies policy of selling of the crown jewels. Our Utilities are owned by everyone apart from the British,council housing sold off and never replaced and you can fly to the continent for what the railway companies charge for a ticket from London to Birmingham. Everyone moans about the price of Gas and Electricity but thats what happens when you privatise these industries.
Besides my main beef is that we're in the EU and I'll always blame the Tories for that.

100% agree marko. :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[lastlid]

No Joe...that's was what she inherited from Labour. 25% inflation actually, and I was signing on those unemployed just before she got in. The country was on its knees because of out of control unions and people demanding pay rises of 35% (railway workers for example).


That's pretty close to how I remember it.

For some reason I cant upoad this picture.

Remember the advert "Labour isnt working". This Tory election poster depicted the massive unemployment situation in the UK in the run up to the Tories winning the elections in 1979.


http://www.turningpointsexhibition.info/images/medium/30_MED.gif

[lastlid]

Wether we agree with it or not, one of the biggest things that Thatcher ever did (apart from nick the school milk of off the kids :D ) was to break the back of the unions.

[tiger31]

unfortunately the good romanians get tarnished by the roma thieving scammers type .ive got 2 romainian lodgers in my house in the uk and they are excellent people really nice guys they put my rent in my bank every week unlike there english counterparts lol they told me its the roma,s that give ordinary romanians a bad name.the only time ive been ripped off was by english scumbag dole scroungers who were paid the rent by the council and do a runner with the rent money i rest my case

[lastlid]

unfortunately the good romanians get tarnished by the roma thieving scammers type .ive got 2 romainian lodgers in my house in the uk and they are excellent people really nice guys they put my rent in my bank every week unlike there english counterparts lol they told me its the roma,s that give ordinary romanians a bad name.the only time ive been ripped off was by english scumbag dole scroungers who were paid the rent by the council and do a runner with the rent money i rest my case

I agree. This is the problem. We can be too quick to tar everyone with the same brush. We don't like it when we are on the receiving end of it, but we often don't care when we are guilty of it ourselves.

[Iani]

Might be an unpopular view, but I've been to Romania, albeit a long time ago, and I was amazed by how friendly the people were. This was especially telling, as it was less than a year after they'd had a revolution, and prior to that if they had been seen talking to a foreigner, then they would have had a visit from the secret police. That sort of fear in society takes a long time to go.
I have trouble reconciling my personal experience with the facts on our streets. I absolutely hate to start making such suggestions, however the Romanians you see in pictures being arrested and begging, they look different in features and dress from the Romanians I saw over there.

You can probably guess where this is leading.

There is a similar thing in Turkey. Go to resorts there, talk to people and Turks are just........well, very astute people you wouldn't want to get into an arguement with. They know all the tricks, but aren't "bad" people, same as anyone anywhere.
Anything really bad happens though, every single time, they will say "oh they are Kurds".
Hmmmmmm

[lastlid]

I have trouble reconciling my personal experience with the facts on our streets. I absolutely hate to start making such suggestions, however the Romanians you see in pictures being arrested and begging, they look different in features and dress from the Romanians I saw over there.


Yes. And those in the pictures - are they all from Romania?

[lastlid]

I honestly believe that we are now paying the price for Maggies policy of selling of the crown jewels. Our Utilities are owned by everyone apart from the British,council housing sold off and never replaced and you can fly to the continent for what the railway companies charge for a ticket from London to Birmingham. Everyone moans about the price of Gas and Electricity but thats what happens when you privatise these industries.
Besides my main beef is that we're in the EU and I'll always blame the Tories for that.

I thought it was the family silver? :icon_lol:

I recall getting a nice little earner or two at the time.

[grahamw48]

I honestly believe that we are now paying the price for Maggies policy of selling of the crown jewels. Our Utilities are owned by everyone apart from the British,council housing sold off and never replaced and you can fly to the continent for what the railway companies charge for a ticket from London to Birmingham. Everyone moans about the price of Gas and Electricity but thats what happens when you privatise these industries.
Besides my main beef is that we're in the EU and I'll always blame the Tories for that.

Yes, I agree that privatisation...certainly of utilities was a wrong move, as was the selling off of the public housing stock (which I stated previously).
This housing was intended for the 'poor', not for people to buy up cheaply and sell on at a profit, merely because they happened to have been occupying the house for a few years...subsidised by other taxpayers.

I don't blindly support the policies of any particular party. The Tories also did their share of stupid things...but that's greedy egotistical politicians for you.

[grahamw48]

Might be an unpopular view, but I've been to Romania, albeit a long time ago, and I was amazed by how friendly the people were. This was especially telling, as it was less than a year after they'd had a revolution, and prior to that if they had been seen talking to a foreigner, then they would have had a visit from the secret police. That sort of fear in society takes a long time to go.
I have trouble reconciling my personal experience with the facts on our streets. I absolutely hate to start making such suggestions, however the Romanians you see in pictures being arrested and begging, they look different in features and dress from the Romanians I saw over there.

You can probably guess where this is leading.

There is a similar thing in Turkey. Go to resorts there, talk to people and Turks are just........well, very astute people you wouldn't want to get into an arguement with. They know all the tricks, but aren't "bad" people, same as anyone anywhere.
Anything really bad happens though, every single time, they will say "oh they are Kurds".
Hmmmmmm

I think it's accepted that we're talking about Roma Gypsies...not the general population of Romania, who I'm sure are quite a different sort of people.

It has been pretty well documented that the Romas are up to no good when they come here and to other EU countries.

[joebloggs]

End of the day the customer (in this case, the electorate) is always right....it wasn't the pits everywhere Joe....where I lived unemployment was near zero.

You seem to have forgotten what the unemployment figures were before she took over from Callaghan....1 in 10 I believe...made famous by ub40.

well where did the billions from the sale of anything British go ? where did the money from the sale of millions of council houses go :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8196911.stm

thatcher was already PM for 2yrs.

[Dedworth]

I think it's accepted that we're talking about Roma Gypsies...not the general population of Romania, who I'm sure are quite a different sort of people.

It has been pretty well documented that the Romas are up to no good when they come here and to other EU countries.

The ones often pictured in the press or on TV involved in begging, doping babies, selling the Big Issue are Roma generally of Romanian nationality. These are the people France is currently getting to grips with. Other Romanians dressed in standard European garb with more Latin/Mediterranean features are the ones heavily involved in ATM skimming, shoplifting, people trafficking, identity fraud etc

[grahamw48]

I suppose there is the odd honest one...maybe just hasn't been shown the ropes yet. :)

[grahamw48]

well where did the billions from the sale of anything British go ? where did the money from the sale of millions of council houses go :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8196911.stm

thatcher was already PM for 2yrs.

Presumably it was used to clear up the mess that Labour had left...as with the current situation. :NoNo:

[gWaPito]

I honestly believe that we are now paying the price for Maggies policy of selling of the crown jewels. Our Utilities are owned by everyone apart from the British,council housing sold off and never replaced and you can fly to the continent for what the railway companies charge for a ticket from London to Birmingham. Everyone moans about the price of Gas and Electricity but thats what happens when you privatise these industries.
Besides my main beef is that we're in the EU and I'll always blame the Tories for that.

Utter garbage!

You wanna situation like in Phils where goverment own everything...they set price to what they wanna screw you...honestly...without competition we wouldn't have cheap utilities..

It was war criminal blair who took us for a ride...he's still creaming it in.

[gWaPito]

Btw By cheap, I mean't cheap compared to utility costs in the Philippines...no competition there....you cant tell me you want that.

Im definitely not blaming the tories for the state the country is in now.....you can only blame blair for his stack um high policies,' the more we let in, the more votes'

Yes, I agree the council stock shouldn't of been sold but, would you have turnt down the chance to buy cheap housing on principle...

[andy222]

Utter garbage!

You wanna situation like in Phils where goverment own everything...they set price to what they wanna screw you...honestly...without competition we wouldn't have cheap utilities..

It was war criminal blair who took us for a ride...he's still creaming it in.

cheap utilities? How do you work that out?. And now we are being screwed by foreigners that own our resourses. The government has no say on what prices they charge, :rolleyes: I agree Blair was a :censored:. But you have to blame the government in power now. They were elected to put things right and they are not doing it. And the posh boys never will.

[Dedworth]

Off topic because this thread is meant to be about Romanian low life ...............in early 1979 Labour were kowtowing to militant trade unions who were shafting the public with the winter of discontent, the pound was at an all time low against the dollar and Callaghan had to go to the IMF with his begging bowl. The slogan "Labour isn't working" couldn't have been more true and it was no surprise the Conservatives were voted in

[gWaPito]

cheap utilities? How do you work that out?. And now we are being screwed by foreigners that own our resourses. The government has no say on what prices they charge, :rolleyes: I agree Blair was a :censored:. But you have to blame the government in power now. They were elected to put things right and they are not doing it. And the posh boys never will.

Well, I beg to differ. On the strength of Ann Widdencombe piece in the Express last....the fact is this coalition is turning things around.

If you'd taken the time to read my later post...I was comparing utility prices with the Phils which like some of you crave :rolleyes: dont have any competition...the goverment does everybody.

Yes, utility prices may be on the up but, without competition the rises would of skyrocketed by now and we'd be out in the fields chopping down trees for heat etc.

Honestly, we've never had it so good :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andy222]

Well, I beg to differ. On the strength of Ann Widdencombe piece in the Express last....the fact is this coalition is turning things around.

If you'd taken the time to read my later post...I was comparing utility prices with the Phils which like some of you crave :rolleyes: dont have any competition...the goverment does everybody.

Yes, utility prices may be on the up but, without competition the rises would of skyrocketed by now and we'd be out in the fields chopping down trees for heat etc.

Honestly, we've never had it so good :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I did take time to read it we are talking about this country not the phils. I honestly dont know what planet your on? Like I said before your alright JACK.

[lastlid]

Well, I beg to differ. On the strength of Ann Widdencombe piece in the Express last....the fact is this coalition is turning things around.

If you'd taken the time to read my later post...I was comparing utility prices with the Phils which like some of you crave :rolleyes: dont have any competition...the goverment does everybody.

Yes, utility prices may be on the up but, without competition the rises would of skyrocketed by now and we'd be out in the fields chopping down trees for heat etc.

Honestly, we've never had it so good :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Well, I beg to differ too.

Have a read of this. Yes, it is a bit old now but it does give you a little bit of an insight into what determines gas prices in the UK....certainly not Anne Widdecombe, the Daily Express or the coalition.

"The UK depends on gas imports from Europe


http://www.whatprice.co.uk/utilities/gas-prices.html

By the way, Gwapito, what on earth are you smoking? I would hate to hear what mumbo jumbo you come up with on the determining factors for the price of petrol.

[andy222]

Anybody remember black wednesday I suppose that was labours fault too.

In politics and economics, Black Wednesday refers to the events of 16 September 1992 when the British Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after they were unable to keep it above its agreed lower limit. George Soros, the most high profile of the currency market investors, made over US$1 billion profit by short selling sterling.
In 1997 the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion, with the actual cost being £3.3 billion which was revealed in 2005 under the Freedom of Information Act (FoI).[1]
The trading losses in August and September were estimated at £800 million, but the main loss to taxpayers arose because the devaluation could have made them a profit. The papers show that if the government had maintained $24 billion foreign currency reserves and the pound had fallen by the same amount, the UK would have made a £2.4 billion profit on sterling's devaluation.Newspapers also revealed that the Treasury spent £27 billion of reserves in propping up the pound.

[Dedworth]

Lastlid - Reference rip off Gas Prices I think you will find that it is the usual lack of planning and investment that has caused the situation detailed in this (July 2012) article

LONDON, July 24 (Reuters) - Britain has less gas storage capacity, relative to its annual
demand of around 80 billion cubic metres, than other major European gas consumers.


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/britain-gas-storage-idUKL6E8IC5WX20120724

I suspect this means we always have to pay top dollar for gas because we have nowhere to buy and store it when prices are cheap

[andy222]

So why dont the government invest in more storage space instead of giving money to foreign aid? Its the government in power now that has to make these decisions.

[Dedworth]

So why dont the government invest in more storage space instead of giving money to foreign aid? Its the government in power now that has to make these decisions.

I suppose because the utility companies have all been sold off to foreigners it's up to them to make the investment - easier for them just to rake in the profits from the long suffering British public. The Govt needs to put some serious price controls on these robbers or renationalise the utilities

[stevewool]

wow i am glad i dont read the papers, and i just have to think about myself and my family, yes stress with work but with work that helps me save and get out of this country quicker,plus i dont vote either so who ever is to blame for what ever, things will not change overnight,be happy with what you have and who you are, seems to be the best thing:)

[lastlid]

Lastlid - Reference rip off Gas Prices I think you will find that it is the usual lack of planning and investment that has caused the situation detailed in this (July 2012) article

LONDON, July 24 (Reuters) - Britain has less gas storage capacity, relative to its annual
demand of around 80 billion cubic metres, than other major European gas consumers.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/britain-gas-storage-idUKL6E8IC5WX20120724

I suspect this means we always have to pay top dollar for gas because we have nowhere to buy and store it when prices are cheap

Storage. Have a look in Cheshire. They banged out a few holes in the ground there for that very reason, only a few years ago. Maybe not enough though....but as far as I know the campaign was being extended.

Quite a canny project actually. Pumping gas into holes washed out in the salt under the ground in Cheshire. I know people that worked on it.


http://www.eon-uk.com/generation/gas_storage.aspx

Seems they have been doing the same in Yorkshire. I hope the HSE are operating there as I wouldnt like to think all that gas blew the arsenal out of Grahams back yard....:D

Drilling holes in the ground, safely. Thats what I do for a living. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andy222]

I suppose because the utility companies have all been sold off to foreigners it's up to them to make the investment - easier for them just to rake in the profits from the long suffering British public. The Govt needs to put some serious price controls on these robbers or renationalise the utilities

Sorry Ded but that was the word I was looking for SOLD OFF thats what thatcher and the tories do. To be honest in my opinion she thatcher should not be buried she should be burnt at the stake. She wrecked the west midlands engineering industry that employed millions. That will never come back.

[Dedworth]

I've just found this 6 month old article about Roma scum fighting in Manchester


Terror as feuding gypsy clans battled in Levenshulme street

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1488663_terror-as-feuding-gypsy-clans-battled-in-levenshulme-street

Roma Big Issue Sellers

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fe31XIgqaNQ/T2SpSYybQkI/AAAAAAAABEo/wf-_n3SsfoU/s1600/PVHez.jpg

Roma Big Issue Sellers Big House in Romania :-

http://britishfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/article-1389282-0C2D523700000578-119_634x357-610x343.jpg

[Dedworth]

Storage. Have a look in Cheshire. They banged out a few holes in the ground there for that very reason, only a few years ago. Maybe not enough though....but as far as I know the campaign was being extended.

Quite a canny project actually. Pumping gas into holes washed out in the salt under the ground in Cheshire. I know people that worked on it.


http://www.eon-uk.com/generation/gas_storage.aspx

Seems they have been doing the same in Yorkshire. I hope the HSE are operating there as I wouldnt like to think all that gas blew the arsenal out of Grahams back yard....:D

Not enough holes though

Britain has less gas storage capacity, relative to its annual
demand of around 80 billion cubic metres, than other major European gas consumers.

[Dedworth]

Sorry Ded but that was the word I was looking for SOLD OFF thats what thatcher and the tories do. To be honest in my opinion she thatcher should not be buried she should be burnt at the stake. She wrecked the west midlands engineering industry that employed millions. That will never come back.

Andy weren't the Unions responsible for wrecking the UK Car Industry and this ruined many West Mids component suppliers. I know the UK Car building industry has made a bit of a comeback but I suspect a lot of the components used are foreign because we no longer make them ourselves. Companies like GKN, Lucas, T & N employed 1000's

[lastlid]

Oh. Our old friend the HSE....helping to ensure that gas is stored underground in Cheshire and Yorkshire respectively, safely. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

"Salt cavity natural gas storage - Consent and operational issues


http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/supply/saltcavity.htm

[lastlid]

Not enough holes though

Britain has less gas storage capacity, relative to its annual
demand of around 80 billion cubic metres, than other major European gas consumers.

Then we need to drill more, particularly under Yorkshire, where we can slacken off on the old HSE.

[imagine]

Sorry Ded but that was the word I was looking for SOLD OFF thats what thatcher and the tories do. To be honest in my opinion she thatcher should not be buried she should be burnt at the stake. She wrecked the west midlands engineering industry that employed millions. That will never come back.

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andy222]

Andy weren't the Unions responsible for wrecking the UK Car Industry and this ruined many West Mids component suppliers. I know the UK Car building industry has made a bit of a comeback but I suspect a lot of the components used are foreign because we no longer make components
Your right and wrong Ded. The unions did not wreck the industry. Thatcher closed them down just like she did with the mines. No investment. And you are right the uk does not make many parts for cars now because it had a knock on effect when the big companies were closed down. Take a look at JAGUAR LAND ROVER. Who owns it? We will be held to ransom again if the indians pull out how many jobs will go?

[lastlid]

Not enough holes though

Britain has less gas storage capacity, relative to its annual
demand of around 80 billion cubic metres, than other major European gas consumers.

Take a look at this. I know guys who worked here. Looks like they are cracking on with it.
.
The project includes the creation of 28 caverns at a depth of 600m in three phases between 2013 and 2018. The first ten caverns of the first phase are expected to be commissioned in 2013. The facility is expected to be fully operational by 2018.

I nearly took a trip there myself as I needed some videos taken of the operation.



http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/stublach-gas-storage-project/

[andy222]

Laslid Im not going to question you on this mate you know what your talking about. But what I will say is I will not be surprised if this project is scrapped through lack of funding.

[lastlid]

Laslid Im not going to question you on this mate you know what your talking about. But what I will say is I will not be surprised if this project is scrapped through lack of funding.

You might be right. It looks like the project is well underway. A heap had been drilled by 2008 and they recommenced work a couple of years later. I don't actually know their status right now. But I hope that they don't scrap it, from the consumers point of view.

[andy222]

Look at it another way the more we pay the more tax the government will get.

[lastlid]

This suggests it is still ongoing, as of June of this year. So maybe we will see cheaper UK gas prices eventually.

"Interserve, the international support services and construction group, has won a contract worth over £5 million to provide pipework fabrication and mechanical services for a new gas storage facility in Stublach, Cheshire.

http://www.interserve.com/news-media/press-releases-and-news/2012/06/26/1801/interserve-wins-major-industrial-services-contract-for-stublach-gas-storage-project

[gWaPito]

I did take time to read it we are talking about this country not the phils. I honestly dont know what planet your on? Like I said before your alright JACK.

Actually im on the looking at the bigger spectrum planet.

Im comparing living expenses here and the Philippines...that's what my good lady does.

Yes, expensive here but at least after we put expensive fuel in our cars...paid our expensive utilities etc we can still eat without going cap in hand to friends and relatives and save for holidays halfway around the world namely, the Philippines.

Over there its quite different...Graham we tell you that.

Dame Margaret Thatcher was a knighted for goodness sakes....on the whole people who fail dont get knighted.

She may of been disliked up north but down here in the South she was loved.....as I said before, if she was so unpopular as you claim how come she was prime minister for so many years.

Remember the three day week?....that was labour's fault.

[andy222]

Who owns interserve Lastlid?

[lastlid]

Dont know. I notice they have a big contract with the NHS. Based in Reading, Berkshire. Also the home of Dedworth and British Gas. :D

Looks like it could be British.

http://www.interserve.com/

[andy222]

[QUOTE=gWaPito;388424]Actually im on the looking at the bigger spectrum planet.

Im comparing living expenses here and the Philippines...that's what my good lady does.

Yes, expensive here but at least after we put expensive fuel in our cars...paid our expensive utilities etc we can still eat without going cap in hand to friends and relatives and save for holidays halfway around the world namely, the Philippines.

You ever heard of foodbanks? How many kids are there now having free school dinners?:doh
You havnt got a clue have you?

[andy222]

The reality is YOU gwapito can put fuel in your car. YOU gwapito can afford expensive utilities. YOU gwapito can afford to go half way round the world. So everything is ok.

[gWaPito]

The reality is YOU gwapito can put fuel in your car. YOU gwapito can afford expensive utilities. YOU gwapito can afford to go half way round the world. So everything is ok.

im getting the distinct impression you dont like me very much :NoNo:

Anyway, there is a moral to this story.....

I'll say no more on this thread.

[andy222]

Its your attitude I dont like. I will just remind you there hard working honest people on this forum who are not as fortunate as you so spare a thought for them. I have met people like you in the past when everything is ok they dont care but when the crap hits the fan they turn round and start asking questions as to why they cant get a job or how can they feed their kids? That is the real world we live in. Its a well known fact that the thatcher era bred people like you who dont give a toss about others. Sorry about messing your thread up Ded.:xxgrinning--00xx3:.

[joebloggs]

Dame Margaret Thatcher was a knighted for goodness sakes....on the whole people who fail dont get knighted.

She may of been disliked up north but down here in the South she was loved.....as I said before, if she was so unpopular as you claim how come she was prime minister for so many years.

Remember the three day week?....that was labour's fault.

i think your the only one who loves her gWaPito :rolleyes:, the southerners who love thatcher are they the same ones who voted for the Labour Party to win three consecutive general election victories :D

[lastlid]

i think your the only one who loves her gWaPito :rolleyes:, the southerners who love thatcher are they the same ones who voted for the Labour Party to win three consecutive general election victories :D

Loadsamoney......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8

[andy222]

I was going to mention that Joe.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

i think your the only one who loves her gWaPito :rolleyes:, the southerners who love thatcher are they the same ones who voted for the Labour Party to win three consecutive general election victories :D
I wish you guys would read posts on threads you are commenting about...really so annoying.....Graham stated towards the end of her relm it all started going pear shaped ending with her own putting the knife in her back.

Thus the decline of the conservative party...Hague was brilliant even Portilo would of made a great prime minister but the liberal cancer had already taken hold by then.

This day on only UKIP can save our nation...dont waste your vote by not voting then have the bear faced cheek to moan about the state of our elected goverment.

[Dedworth]

Old British Leyland Advert

Mr2Wa4i1vVw

[stevewool]

Portilo would of made a great prime minister dont waste your vote by not voting then have the bear faced cheek to moan about the state of our elected goverment.[/QUOTE]

i must agree with this about portilo, with what i know, but i dont vote and yes may moan a little who ever is in, but hey its a free country

[joebloggs]

Dame Margaret Thatcher was a knighted for goodness sakes....on the whole people who fail dont get knighted.

She may of been disliked up north but down here in the South she was loved.....as I said before, if she was so unpopular as you claim how come she was prime minister for so many years.

Remember the three day week?....that was labour's fault.


I wish you guys would read posts on threads you are commenting about...really so annoying.....Graham stated towards the end of her relm it all started going pear shaped ending with her own putting the knife in her back.



i think your the only one who loves her gWaPito :rolleyes:, the southerners who love thatcher are they the same ones who voted for the Labour Party to win three consecutive general election victories :D
:Erm:

[gWaPito]

Portilo would of made a great prime minister dont waste your vote by not voting then have the bear faced cheek to moan about the state of our elected goverment.

i must agree with this about portilo, with what i know, but i dont vote and yes may moan a little who ever is in, but hey its a free country[/QUOTE]

' I dont vote' 'moan' and 'free country'...this surprisingly (considering us Brits have short arms with deep pockets) is the view of over half of the electorate.

Quite a terrible situation...schools of all levels should make politics a staple of daily life...getting the kids to form there own opinions rather than go with what there parents have told them.

[stevewool]

we are in a terrible situation, whos ever fault it is, and maybe it started back in the 70s but i think if it carried on how it was with the strikes , 3 day week, powercuts and all that we had in them days given by the unions and the goverment, we would be just like greece, and spain, are now, i did like thacher myself, infact i think that may have been the last time i voted, but as many said in the end she stayed on for two long, another thing here is even though we have a great deal of sympathy to our fellow members about visas, the cost of this and that, all we can do is listern and give advice if we can, Number 1 person or people to look after is your own family and then friends

[lastlid]

Anybody notice which party had all the luck with North Sea oil coming on stream? And its affects on the fortunes of the respective parties? And what the respective parties have done with it....

[lastlid]

And heres an interesting article from march 2012. See what Norway did they we didnt....

"Britain has squandered golden opportunity North Sea oil promised
Norway saved up its North Sea revenue to pay for an ageing population, but the UK has frittered its windfall away


http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/economics-blog/2012/mar/29/north-sea-oil-revenue-squandered

[lastlid]

More Oil Gloom

"Who gets the oil in the event of Scottish independence? It depends who you speak to and any division of the spoils will be hotly fought over by politicians in Edinburgh and London. If you draw a median line out across the North Sea from the border then 90% of the oil tax revenues will accrue to Scotland. If the calculation is done on the basis of population then that figure will be reduced to 9%, according to the (London-based) National Institute of Economic and Social Research (Niesr)."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/02/oil-revenues-if-scotland-became-independent

[lastlid]

Prime Minister Thatcher's Economic Policies


http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch37-thatcher.htm

Was this lady lucky to inherit the benefits of oil coming on stream? And is she guilty of squandering it?

[lastlid]

The Thatcher Revolution a Myth


https://sites.google.com/site/oibrevision/enh/britain-1945-90/essay-the-thatcher-revolution-was-a-myth-to-what-extent-do-you-agree