Permanent Resident Question??

[macky]

Permanent residency PR... Do you still need other visas to travel in different countries?

[grahamw48]

Depends what passport you hold, but yes, of course you do.

[Terpe]

Permanent residency PR... Do you still need other visas to travel in different countries?

As a non-EEA family member until you have a UK passport, you'll need a visa.
After 12 months of PR you'll normally be eligible for application of a UK passport

[macky]

Ok tnx much xx

[Arthur Little]

Ok tnx much xx

You may already be aware of *this, of course :icon_rolleyes: ... but, in your case, a *Schengen Visa is required for travelling to Continental European countries.

[YorkshirePuddin]

After 12 months of PR you'll normally be eligible for application of a UK passport

So Terpe, just confirming.... are you saying that if my Filipino wife gets permanent residency after a year she would be able to apply for a UK passport and can travel as UK citizens can? even before getting citizenship? sorry for the stoopid question...just clarifying! thanks!

[Terpe]

So Terpe, just confirming.... are you saying that if my Filipino wife gets permanent residency after a year she would be able to apply for a UK passport and can travel as UK citizens can? even before getting citizenship? sorry for the stoopid question...just clarifying! thanks!

No :icon_lol:

She would need to apply for Naturalisation as a British Citizen first.
Once she becomes a British Citizen she can apply for a British Passport.

Permanent Residency (PR) is equivalent to Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR)

Why would your wife get PR? Surely she's under UK immigration rules and eligible for ILR?
Is she under 'old rules' or 'new rules' ?

[NoRest]

hi Terpe, what is old rule? new rule? forgive me, am a bit ignorant with this stuff...

[Terpe]

hi Terpe, what is old rule? new rule? forgive me, am a bit ignorant with this stuff...

I'll try.....

The UK Immigration Rules:-

The so called 'New Rules' became effective for all applications submitted on and after 9 July 2012
The 'old rules' apply to all applications submitted before 9 July 2012

Since 9 July 2012, the Immigration Rules relating to 'Family Migration' were significantly changed in a number of ways.

1. Financial Requirement.

Unless exempt there is now a minimum income threshold that must be met under UKVI Family Members Financial Requirements.

The level of the financial requirement to be me is determined by the number of children or are applying for leave to to enter as follows:-

Annual gross income for a Partner with no children – £18,600.

Annual gross income for 1 child in addition to the partner – £22,400.

Annual gross income for 2 children in addition to the partner – £24,800.

Annual gross income for 3 children in addition to the partner – £27,200.

(an additional £2,400 for each further child)

2. Probationary Period

The probabtionary period before 'partners' become eligible to apply for ILR (settlement) was extended from 2 years to a new minimum of 5 years.
This five year 'family route' involves two periods of 'leave to remain' of 30 months.
For a spouse making application for entry clearance an initial visa period of 33 months is be granted. This allows for a 3 month buffer which allows time for
needed arrangements to re-locate to the UK. After 30 months living in the UK a second 'leave to remain visa needs application for a 2nd period of 30 months.
After 60 months of living in the UK the applicant becomes eligible for application for indefinite leave to remain.(ILR)

The 'Old Rules'


Applications made before 9 July ('old rules') remain as having no financial requirement to meet by means of an income threshold.
Financials were (and remain) based solely on ability to support the applicant without recourse to public funds.

Additionally, applications made before 9 July 2012 only requires a 2 year (24 months) probationary period living in UK as a spouse before the applicant became eligible for application for Indefinite Leave to Remain.(ILR)


Whether it's 'new rules' or 'old rules' all applicants do however need to secure both a pass certificate for Life in UK Test and a pass certificate for English Language at a minimum level B1

Once you have ILR you then enter the rules for eligibility to apply for British Citizenship..

So you can see that it's possible for those who come under 'old rules' can become British Citizens a full 2 years before those who come under the 'new rules'


Hope that helps to clarify......please do ask if something doesn't make sense.

[NoRest]

Thanks for that Terpe, well and clearly explained :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Terpe]

Thanks for that Terpe, well and clearly explained :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks :xxgrinning--00xx3:

There's been huge changes since you first arrived here... :wink: