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joebloggs
30th September 2013, 13:30
not sure about this :cwm25:, not if it affects spouses of UK citizens :NoNo: but for everyone else :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Home Secretary Theresa May said the Government plans to "deport first and hear the appeal later" in a major change to immigration law.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-09-30/theresa-may-plans-to-deport-first-and-hear-appeal-later/

grahamw48
30th September 2013, 13:50
Good....and about time too, IF the plan is actually put into action. :cwm25:

I don't think most UK/Fil relationships will be affected, as MOST are above board, with proper procedures followed. :smile:

joebloggs
30th September 2013, 18:37
I don't think most UK/Fil relationships will be affected, as MOST are above board, with proper procedures followed. :smile:

lets hope not, if someone is refused FLR or ILR for whatever reason, very harsh that they should leave the UK and appeal :NoNo:

grahamw48
30th September 2013, 18:51
IMO, every leave to remain should be judged on its individual merits by a panel of at least 3 people...not some box-ticking penpusher subject to mood swings and personal prejudice.

British citizens with British grandparents should also receive absolute priority where marriage visas are concerned...and subject to less harsh rules.

marksroomspain
30th September 2013, 22:26
lets hope not, if someone is refused FLR or ILR for whatever reason, very harsh that they should leave the UK and appeal :NoNo:

What I have been reading its basically illegal immigrants, foreign national criminals & failed asylum seekers who will get the boot.

The likes of FLR & ILR if not approved under immigration rues shouldn't be effected as these are legitimate cases and would fall under article 8 as a right to a private family life outside the rules.

Thats my reading into it correct me if I'm wrong...:smile:

London_Manila
1st October 2013, 00:05
Just trying to win back a few x Tories who have gone over to UKIP

Pete/London
1st October 2013, 00:30
Just trying to win back a few x Tories who have gone over to UKIP

Deflecting from the fact they cant do anything to prevent the flood coming in from Europe,
paying for the Roma to have a short break back home and then seeing them return.
Couldn`t make it up :biggrin:

joebloggs
1st October 2013, 07:36
illegal immigrants, foreign national criminals & failed asylum seekers who will get the boot.



not sure yet, you would have thought it wouldn't effect spouses, but then again they could be married to a British citizen and still be an undesirable

the problem is these do fall under article 8, that's why they are still here ! :NoNo:, while you don't get to use article 8 to bring your spouse here, nothing stopping you going to live in the phils, as some have been told on here by the British Embassy when they've been refused a visa :cwm24:

Dedworth
1st October 2013, 10:07
Deflecting from the fact they cant do anything to prevent the flood coming in from Europe,
paying for the Roma to have a short break back home and then seeing them return.
Couldn`t make it up :biggrin:

Very worrying :-

LBC Investigation: Why Romanians Are Coming To London

http://www.lbc.co.uk/lbc-investigation-why-romanians-are-coming-to-london-78574/album/lbc_investigation__100_days_until_romanians_can_come_to_london/2132

Listen to the audio :yikes:

gWaPito
2nd October 2013, 03:12
What I have been reading its basically illegal immigrants, foreign national criminals & failed asylum seekers who will get the boot.

The likes of FLR & ILR if not approved under immigration rues shouldn't be effected as these are legitimate cases and would fall under article 8 as a right to a private family life outside the rules.

Thats my reading into it correct me if I'm wrong...:smile:

That's my understanding too Mark :xxgrinning--00xx3:..It's Joe, just being Joe :wink:

joebloggs
2nd October 2013, 07:46
That's my understanding too Mark :xxgrinning--00xx3:..It's Joe, just being Joe :wink:

:biggrin: you hope so, who knows, its the same gov that brought in the £18k6 minimum financial requirement :cwm24:

SimonH
2nd October 2013, 07:57
:biggrin: you hope so, who knows, its the same gov that brought in the £18k6 minimum financial requirement :cwm24:

I'm in a good mood today, so have decided to agree with Joe for once..............
Joe's right, 18K is ridiculous, I say let everyone in, no need to prove you can support your spouse, have a house, have some benefits, if you can be bothered to work make sure you're in a union and getting well above the pitiful minimum wage.

:biggrin:

joebloggs
2nd October 2013, 08:11
I'm in a good mood today, so have decided to agree with Joe for once..............
Joe's right, 18K is ridiculous, I say let everyone in, no need to prove you can support your spouse, have a house, have some benefits, if you can be bothered to work make sure you're in a union and getting well above the pitiful minimum wage.

:biggrin:
for once your talking some common sense :xxgrinning--00xx3:
you would have thought in your own country you would have a right to bring your spouse here, just as Europeans living in the UK have without any restrctions:cwm25:

oh and it was the Tories who brought in the 'primary purpose rule' in the past, even you SimonH with all your wealth might not have been able to bring your spouse here because of that, oh it was a Labour gov and jack straw that scrapped that rule, lucky you :biggrin:

SimonH
2nd October 2013, 08:54
for once your talking some common sense :xxgrinning--00xx3:
you would have thought in your own country you would have a right to bring your spouse here, just as Europeans living in the UK have without any restrctions:cwm25:

oh and it was the Tories who brought in the 'primary purpose rule' in the past, even you SimonH with all your wealth might not have been able to bring your spouse here because of that, oh it was a Labour gov and jack straw that scrapped that rule, lucky you :biggrin:

Good points, let's get out of Europe and shut the doors, you're making sense now :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Just as an aside, I didn't bring my spouse here, I met her here (she'd been here 5 years before we met).
Not quite sure where the 'with all my wealth' comment comes from though :Erm:

grahamw48
2nd October 2013, 09:00
Because Simon is a rich person's name.

Easy one. :icon_lol:

joebloggs
2nd October 2013, 09:02
well your lucky she came here under a labour gov :xxgrinning--00xx3:, unless she is highly skilled or her work is on the job shortage list she would have had little chance of coming to the UK now under the Tories :cwm24:

joebloggs
2nd October 2013, 09:05
Because Simon is a rich person's name.

Easy one. :icon_lol:

well usually people who complain about people getting benefits etc are not on minimum wage :biggrin:

well if he's so poor maybe he's not just entitled to claim a council house but benefits too :biggrin:

SimonH
2nd October 2013, 09:09
well your lucky she came here under a labour gov :xxgrinning--00xx3:, unless she is highly skilled or her work is on the job shortage list she would have had little chance of coming to the UK now under the Tories :cwm24:

More assumptions :Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm:
I didn't realise you knew her, maybe we've met Joe :Erm:
What year did she come here then :NoNo:

joebloggs
2nd October 2013, 10:51
More assumptions :Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm::Erm:
I didn't realise you knew her, maybe we've met Joe :Erm:
What year did she come here then :NoNo:

the same assumptions you make about people claiming benefits :xxgrinning--00xx3: