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[Moy]

SEND you pm but it says your inbox are full and cant receive any..:bigcry::Help1:


so ill post my msg here

JOE

i think you have seen my post and im very desperate for ans now regarding of the form for citizenship and my dependent
AN and MN1 form
i had printed my form last aug and it was a form from Dec 2012 now im about to submit found out on website it was Sept 2013?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/nationality/form_an.pdf

which form should i follow help me...i am very confuse as i will re write my ans if thats the case:grosyeux::anerikke::bigcry:

had try to book appoinemnt for nationaLITY CHECking service but dont hear from them yet so am thinking to apply by post as the date is get nearer to the changes this Oct:bigcry::Help1:

[stevewool]

Moy it takes a few days for them to return the call,it will cost nothing just to call again tomorrow and asked how long it could be

[Moy]

i know but am thinkin the date get nearer plus the form had been updated and ill re write it again so am very confuse now:bigcry::Help1:

[stevewool]

Download the new forms and fill both in , what's that going to cost you, they say you should always fill in the newest form available, sorry if that's no help moy

[SimonH]

I'll let you know tomorrow Moy, don't panic :smile:

[joebloggs]

you should always use the latest form , if you don't it could cause delays because they might send it back to you for being invalid:NoNo:

[stevewool]

you should always use the latest form , if you don't it could cause delays or even refusal for being invalid :NoNo:

Thank god you turned up joe, I thought it was going to be a long night

[SimonH]

I think this is the main change, and hence the updated form:-


IMPORTANT: The Knowledge of Language and Life in the UK (KOLL) requirement is changing on 28 October 2013. From this date, applicants will be required to:
• pass the Life in the UK test; AND
• have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or an equivalent level qualification.
Further details can be found on our website.


If you have an approved ESOL then this doesn't matter

[Moy]

you should always use the latest form , if you don't it could cause delays because they might send it back to you for being invalid:NoNo:

but i did not know those till the last minute:bigcry::bigcry::NoNo::censored::doh:Brick:
thanks papa Joe:biggrin::Cuckoo::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Moy]

I'll let you know tomorrow Moy, don't panic :smile:

ok SimonH:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Moy]

I think this is the main change, and hence the updated form:-


IMPORTANT: The Knowledge of Language and Life in the UK (KOLL) requirement is changing on 28 October 2013. From this date, applicants will be required to:
• pass the Life in the UK test; AND
• have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or an equivalent level qualification.
Further details can be found on our website.


If you have an approved ESOL then this doesn't matter
I know the thing is the font of the pages is been change too :( so you cant swap the form from dec 2012 to sept 2013 need to print the whole lot plus i got dependent...what an agony of the last minute hope ill survive:grosyeux::anerikke::bigcry:

[Moy]

Download the new forms and fill both in , what's that going to cost you, they say you should always fill in the newest form available, sorry if that's no help moy

of course it will bloody cost me steve wool lols..u imagine ill print the whole lot plus i got dependent plus i'll re write my ans plus my time i had spend already fillin this form...plus running around as our printer just got busted :xxaction-smiley-047 :Brick: :anerikke: too much printin need to chase some...went curry..pc world , sainsbury .coop town tesco and bought one finally very expensive :Brick::Brick:

[stevewool]

Use your local library and use there computer may be a little cost of using the printer, but moy it will be all worth it in the end :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

Ross I'm sure that the previous application form becomes invalid on the date thats on the new application form, if you used it they will probably send it all back to you :cwm24:

[sars_notd_virus]

Ross I'm sure that the previous application form becomes invalid on the date thats on the new application form, if you used it they will probably send it all back to you :cwm24:

and probably not refund the application fees !!

Moy, I would advice to use the checking service , i know it will cost more but its worth it :smile::xxgrinning--00xx3:
good luck!!

[SimonH]

As sure as I am to say that unless there's a 'valid until' date on the form this can't be the case, there has to be some sort of transitional period. Otherwise you could download the form on 31st August and by the time you've filled it in the following day it would be invalid.
No point in worrying about anything tonight, I'll give you a definitive answer in the morning after I've checked.

[sars_notd_virus]

As sure as I am to say that unless there's a 'valid until' date on the form this can't be the case, there has to be some sort of transitional period. Otherwise you could download the form on 31st August and by the time you've filled it in the following day it would be invalid.
No point in worrying about anything tonight, I'll give you a definitive answer in the morning after I've checked.

Lol its not rocket science!! its the 3rd of October !!...the new form is dated September 2013 why let Moy/Ross use an old form??

[joebloggs]

of course you would have thought they would have a transitional period for a week or so..

[SimonH]

Lol its not rocket science!! its the 3rd of October !!...the new form is dated September 2013 why let Moy/Ross use an old form??

:doh because as she's said, she has already filled out the form and had to get character references, all taking time and probably money.
So, the bit that isn't rocket science, is why not wait till tomorrow until I get an answer from the UKBA, or do you think by downloading the new form tonight and running round getting it filled in will make a difference :Erm::Erm:

[sars_notd_virus]

yup thats correct Joe, they always do that when there's new rules being implemented

[SimonH]

of course you would have thought they would have a transitional period for a week or so..

Point made Joe, however do you know when the new form became available :Erm:
I know for a fact it wasn't there 2 weeks ago, when I downloaded it and helped my partner fill hers in. Maybe we should wait till tomorrow :Erm:

[raynaputi]

Moy, you have to use the new form. UKBA always states to use the latest form. It may take you extra time reprinting and filling out the forms again but it will save you a lot of problems in the end. The new form must be used for Sept 2013 applications onward. The Dec 2012 form is invalid now.

[raynaputi]

Point made Joe, however do you know when the new form became available :Erm:
I know for a fact it wasn't there 2 weeks ago, when I downloaded it a helped my partner fill hers in. Maybe we should wait till tomorrow :Erm:

That's why you need to regularly check the UKBA's website for changes made, especially if you are submitting an application.

[joebloggs]

i know a case where someone used an old application form that had been updated a month before they applied and it was returned as invalid :NoNo:

[sars_notd_virus]

:doh because as she's said, she has already filled out the form and had to get character references, all taking time and probably money.


OMG !! you obviously didn't check the two forms the (old) and the (new)
referees and identity OLD form is on page 12
referees and identity NEW form is on page 14
..not a rocket science SimonH..the contents looks the same but..NOT:on same page?? cwm25::Erm:

[Moy]

and probably not refund the application fees !!

Moy, I would advice to use the checking service , i know it will cost more but its worth it :smile::xxgrinning--00xx3:
good luck!!
i did try to book :cwm25:but tilll no call back from them :NoNo:as u know the time is very tight now:(

[Moy]

Moy, you have to use the new form. UKBA always states to use the latest form. It may take you extra time reprinting and filling out the forms again but it will save you a lot of problems in the end. The new form must be used for Sept 2013 applications onward. The Dec 2012 form is invalid now.

thanks Rayna:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Moy]

Ross I'm sure that the previous application form becomes invalid on the date thats on the new application form, if you used it they will probably send it all back to you :cwm24:

:cwm3::bigcry: thanks for reminding Joes:xxaction-smiley-047:biggrin:

[stevewool]

Time is very tight, that's why we all must do it as soon as possible ,because problems like this can and do happem

[SimonH]

Some good news and some bad............

Moy, good news is that the form you have is still valid until the end of October as stated by the checking service we are using in London :Jump:

Bad news is for all those who who gave Moy unnecessary stress and worry, in future wait till you know the facts before guessing :cwm25:

[raynaputi]

Some good news and some bad............

Moy, good news is that the form you have is still valid until the end of October as stated by the checking service we are using in London :Jump:

Bad news is for all those who who gave Moy unnecessary stress and worry, in future wait till you know the facts before guessing :cwm25:

Would the checking service that Moy will be using say the same? Or will the employee who would process the application thinks the same? As a fact, UKBA employees don't always have the same knowledge about the rules, that's why a lot of problems are always happening. Lots of members here have been told different info everytime. As always the forum will advice in reducing the risk of refusal of the applicants. That includes using the right and most updated forms provided by UKBA. In the website, you won't be able to see the old form (dated Dec 2012) because they are using the new form valid date of Sept 2013.

[Moy]

Time is very tight, that's why we all must do it as soon as possible ,because problems like this can and do happem

i know stevewool but we have different scenario in life not all the time we can just do things we wanted as much as we want to do it quickly as possible:cwm24::wink:

[SimonH]

Would the checking service that Moy will be using say the same? Or will the employee who would process the application thinks the same? As a fact, UKBA employees don't always have the same knowledge about the rules, that's why a lot of problems are always happening. Lots of members here have been told different info everytime. As always the forum will advise in reducing the risk of refusal of the applicants. That includes using the right and most updated forms provided by UKBA. In the website, you won't be able to see the old form (dated Dec 2012) because they are using the new form valid date of Sept 2013.

Would they say the same.............. I don't know for certain, but I would like to hope so, that's what you pay them for.

As always the forum will advice in reducing the risk of refusal of the applicants.
No questioning that, the forum is a great source of information, advise and moral support.

As I am in the same situation I was trying to help :Erm: I said I was ringing the checking service this morning as I did. What I said in my earlier post was for Moy not to get stressed and worried as I would have the correct information this morning. As it is she lost a nights sleep with worry and had to fill out a new form, all for the sake of waiting 12 hours overnight.
I'll keep my opinions to myself in future, as my help doesn't appear to be appreciated.

[joebloggs]

Bad news is for all those who who gave Moy unnecessary stress and worry, in future wait till you know the facts before guessing :cwm25:

i speak from experience and stand by what I've posted, I could find you links from people who got their app back :doh

[Moy]

guess what..the nationality checking service had finally call me :xxaction-smiley-047 but i refuse to have check :Brick:why:grosyeux: i am booked at 24 this month and i cant risk..being so close on 28th:olddude::ReadIt::xxaction-smiley-047 scary...but she assure me they can check my application and send the same day so am still safe
still i REFUSE:cwm24::NoNo: i will apply by post...would be nice to be check but nah....too close:grosyeux:

[SimonH]

i speak from experience and stand by what I've posted, I could find you links from people who got their app back :doh

What's the problem Joe? Why the doh :doh

You gave some good advice yesterday :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I'll say it one last time, I was trying to help Moy and not have her worrying and stressing overnight as I was ringing the checking service this morning.

[joebloggs]

when applying for visa, its all about minimizing the risks of delays, getting your visa app back because its invalid or worse refusal.

falling at the first hurdle should never happen, make sure you use the correct form and its still valid :NoNo:

some people who didn't :NoNo:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=96893&highlight=invalid

i dont think its common but it does happen

[Moy]

when applying for visa, its all about minimizing the risks of delays, getting your visa app back because its invalid or worse refusal.

falling at the first hurdle should never happen, make sure you use the correct form and its still valid :NoNo:

some people who didn't :NoNo:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=96893&highlight=invalid

i dont think its common but it does happen
Joe can i pm you? very imp

[stevewool]

If you went the checking route that day it is checked and sent the same day, so the 24th date you would have been safe and knowing it is all done correct too, just my thoughts moy

[stevewool]

Simon we are not all great at giving the right advice at the right time, but some of us can be here just so that person can have a moan at, lots of advice is given freely to everyone who wants to listen to it, does it make us all bad people, I don't think so

[Moy]

If you went the checking route that day it is checked and sent the same day, so the 24th date you would have been safe and knowing it is all done correct too,just my thoughts moy

i know but im here already :cwm25:
so can u ask ems what hers ans on sec 1
1.17 about those providing addresses for the last 5 years...pls stevewool she might rem what she put there :wink: and if she include her Philippine address:Jump:

[Michael Parnham]

Moy, if it asks for your last five addresses, that's exactly what you provide wherever you lived. hope this helps, please don't get stressed and try to calm down! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Moy]

Moy, if it ask's for your last five addresses, that's exactly what you provide wherever you lived. hope this helps, please don't get stressed and try to calm down!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

exactly what the husband told me :biggrin: to calm down but i get different ans from people here so how am i supposed to calm down :cwm24: :cwm24::xxaction-smiley-047

i am 3 years now here living in the UK but for that previous years i am in the Philippines thats why i am confuse whether to include the address back home (Philippines) :meet-1:

[stevewool]

Include the last 2 years you was in the Phil's, then with your 3 years here that makes the 5 years

[Michael Parnham]

exactly what the husband told me :biggrin: to calm down but i get different ans from people here so how am i suppose to calm down :cwm24: :cwm24::xxaction-smiley-047
i am 3 years now here living in the UK but for that previous years i am in the Philippines thats why i am confuse whether to include the address back home (Philippines) :meet-1:

Yes Moy, include your Philippine address it will be fine, don't worry! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[raynaputi]

Include the last 2 years you was in the Phil's, then with your 3 years here that makes the 5 years

Yes, do this! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Moy]

thanks all :smile: need to rest my mind now :yawn:

and tom my dependent (child ) although been done some question i doubt not sure of the ans :anerikke: :76: :bigcry:
so anyone here who had child dependant hear me i need help :anerikke: :biggrin: :76: :wink:

[sars_notd_virus]

thanks all :smile: need to rest my mind now :yawn:

and tom my dependent (child ) although been done some question i doubt not sure of the ans :anerikke: :76: :bigcry:
so anyone here who had child dependent hear me i need help :anerikke: :biggrin: :76: :wink:

I replied on your other thread Moy, check it out...you dont need to print the guidance notes..you can read it from your computer whilst filling up the forms

[SimonH]

Just had this through, whether it sheds any light on things or makes it more confusing I'm not sure :Erm:


Friday 18 October 2013 at 09:15

At:
The Registration Office for Births & Deaths and the Nationality Checking Service
317 Harrow Road
London W9 3RJ

If you need to cancel your booking this must be done at least 7 calendar days before the appointment. If you need to reschedule your appointment this must be done at least 2 days (excluding Saturday and Sunday and Bank holidays) before the appointment please.

The Home Office have requested that you write your name and date of birth on the back of your passport photo. Please ensure that your photo is attached with glue only, to the relevant page, before your two referees complete their sections as they are confirming the picture is a true likeness of you and are signing to confirm your identity. You must also ensure that your payment details are recorded correctly. You can download the form from the Home Office website, along with the application form.

On the day of your appointment:

· Please arrive promptly as late arrival will result in your appointment being rescheduled (and a further fee will be taken if you reschedule)

· All adults have to attend the appointment before we can check their application.

· Remember to bring all your relevant documents and ensure all necessary forms have been completed. Whilst we are happy to advise you on what documents you will need to bring, the onus is on you to ensure you have read the Home Office guidance notes and have all correct documentation to support your application.

· If you have any questions about your application form and the documents to be produced, you must contact the Home Office prior to your appointment with us.

· If you are an EEA national or applying as a family member of an EEA national, you should read the Home Office guidance notes AND we recommend that you also contact the Home Office to ensure you have the necessary documents to support your application: this should be done before your appointment with us. In the majority of cases you will need to prove 6 years of residence and / or Exercising Treaty Rights http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/applying/applicationtypes/

· Ensure you have the current application form (December 2012) – if you have completed an old application form at your appointment we will have to reschedule your appointment and this will result in a further booking fee.

· Please check that your referees meet the Home Office requirements and they have signed the application form, after you have attached your photo, within the last 6 months.

· It is advisable to photocopy your completed application form before your visit as we are unable to provide you with copies during the appointment.

If you have any questions regarding the Nationality Checking Service please contact us or check our Website at http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/communityandliving/registrar/nationality-checking-service/.

Please click the following link for our location:

http://goo.gl/3LM6Sb

We look forward to seeing you for your appointment.

Kind Regards,

[Moy]

:cwm25: :smile:

[joebloggs]

just seen this, thou it doesn't concern settlement visas, it looks like they are allowing a 3wk transitional period, thou i would have thought it would depend if there was a major change in the new app then i doubt there would be a transitional period.

as always use the latest version to reduce the risks of a problem arising.


In a statement from the UK Visa and Immigration Service they said: “Applicants should use the new forms if applying for a UK visa in these categories on or after 1 October 2013. However, we will continue to accept applications made on previous versions of these forms up to and including 22nd October 2013.”

http://www.ukimmigrationbarristers.com/blog/uk-immigration-application-forms-are-changing-uk-immigration-barristers-announces/

[Terpe]

I've always and consistently advised to :-

- use the most up to date forms

- use the National Checking Service

As with most things in life there are always those who find exceptions.
Dealing with UKBA needs extreme care. It is not an agency with discretion or compassion.

[Moy]

:xxgrinning--00xx3::Jump: