ILR completed

[Lancashirelad]

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My wife just got her ILR today at Liverpool Ukba PEO.

One thing I found ironic while I was there was a big banner saying "Sorry your leaving" obviously meant for a member of staff displayed in the waiting area. but not so good for the people whose visas were being refused!

[Arthur Little]

:smile:

My wife just got her ILR today at Liverpool Ukba PEO.

:smile: Allow me to be the first to congratulate the pair of you ... well done! :xxgrinning--00xx3:


One thing I found ironic while I was there was a big banner saying "Sorry your leaving" obviously meant for a member of staff displayed in the waiting area. but not so good for the people whose visas were being refused!

:cwm24: ... OUCH! :biggrin:

Yes ... ironic, indeed :icon_rolleyes: ... albeit comical in its own way.

[jane2009]

:smile:

My wife just got her ILR today at Liverpool Ukba PEO.

One thing I found ironic while I was there was a big banner saying "Sorry your leaving" obviously meant for a member of staff displayed in the waiting area. but not so good for the people whose visas were being refused!

Congratulations! Where did your wife take her IELTS or B1 test? just asking! ta :smile:

[tone]

Congratulations!!

Great to hear - on the back of this can i ask a question relating to the B1?

I just spoke to a chap at EMD and he pointed out this:-
Qualifications in English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) at Entry level 3, Level 1 or Level 2, that include speaking and listening and that have been regulated by the Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual), the Welsh Government or the Council for Curriculum, Examinations and Assessment (CCEA). The qualification must be listed as an ESOL qualification on the Register of Regulated Qualifications and have been taken in England,

the word include is bothering me - my wife did her B1 in speaking and listening but was told didnt need reading and writing. But the chap at EMD is saying she should do all 4 nodes.

Who is correct? And if I may ask what did your wife do?

Thanks

Tone

[lordna]

Congrats!

[Terpe]

Congratulations!!

Great to hear - on the back of this can i ask a question relating to the B1?

I just spoke to a chap at EMD and he pointed out this:-
Qualifications in English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) at Entry level 3, Level 1 or Level 2, that include speaking and listening and that have been regulated by the Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual), the Welsh Government or the Council for Curriculum, Examinations and Assessment (CCEA). The qualification must be listed as an ESOL qualification on the Register of Regulated Qualifications and have been taken in England,

the word include is bothering me - my wife did her B1 in speaking and listening but was told didnt need reading and writing. But the chap at EMD is saying she should do all 4 nodes.

Who is correct? And if I may ask what did your wife do?

Thanks

Tone

Tone, here's what UKBA state:-

(I've highlighted in bold the specific information you've asked about - Hope it helps):-

[QUOTE]
The Modernised guidance Knowledge of language and life in the UK – version
13.0 page 33 explains that since 28 October 2013, we will accept a range
of English language qualifications as evidence that an applicant has met
the requirement to hold a B1 level speaking and listening qualification.
This will help ensure that all those needing to take a test will be able
to find one suitable for their needs and, so far as possible, that no one
who already has an English language qualification at B1 level or above
will be required to take another one.

The following qualifications will be therefore be accepted for settlement
and naturalisation purposes:

• Qualifications covering speaking and listening at B1 or above from the
Secure English Language Test (SELT) list in the Immigration Rules,
Appendix O. The SELT list is available at:

www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/new-approved-english-tests.pdf

• Qualifications in English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) at
Entry level 3, Level 1 or Level 2, that include speaking and listening and
that have been regulated by the Office of Qualifications and Examinations
Regulation (Ofqual), the Welsh Government or the Council for Curriculum,
Examinations and Assessment (CCEA). The qualification must be listed as an
ESOL qualification on the Register of Regulated Qualifications and have
been taken in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. The register is
available at: http://register.ofqual.gov.uk/2.

• A National Qualification in ESOL at Scottish Qualifications Framework

IELTS (Academic and General Training) is on both the SELT list, and in
Appendix O of the rules, therefore would be acceptable as evidence that an
applicant who had scored:

Listening – 4.0

Speaking – 4.0

has met the English language element of the KOLL requirement. The fact
that an applicant’s qualifying English language certificate had expired
would not prevent them from using their pass notification as evidence that
they had reached level B1 (CEFR) English for a settlement or British
citizenship application. They would not be expected to take another
English language test, but will need to pass the Life in the UK test.

Source:-
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/settlement_ielts#incoming-446576

[tone]

Hello Peter - thanks for the excerpts.
The slight wording differences were highlighted to me as they may suggest you have to do all 4 modules of ESOL Speaking, Listening as well as reading and writing.
The common theme accross all of these is just S&L skills and R&W are not required.

I personally think the guy at EMD is wrong but he suggested some at the UKBA say you need all 4 modules and some say just the two.

How long does a PEO appointment actually take and can I as the spouse go to the desk with the wife?

Cheers

Tone

[Doc Alan]

Congratulations, good news for both of you :Hellooo::Hellooo::Hellooo:.

[grahamw48]

Congratulations. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Michael Parnham]

Congratulations Lancashirelad! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

How long does a PEO appointment actually take and can I as the spouse go to the desk with the wife?

Cheers

Tone

Usually the procedure is completed in less than 2 hours, Tone ... and YES, you CAN accompany your spouse. :smile:

[Terpe]

:smile:
My wife just got her ILR today at Liverpool Ukba PEO.

Many congratulations to your wife and to you :Jump:
A great result and a great feeling.

Time to work for Citizenship now :biggrin:

[Smurfette07]

Congratulations to both of you!!:Jump:

[Terpe]

Hello Peter - thanks for the excerpts.
The slight wording differences were highlighted to me as they may suggest you have to do all 4 modules of ESOL Speaking, Listening as well as reading and writing.


It's not correct at all that they suggest that UKBA require all modules to be passed at grade. That's misleading at best......and telling porkies at worst.

I've linked a number of times on this Tone, but I'll try to find the latest statements on that to at least allay your concerns

[Terpe]

It's not correct at all that they suggest that UKBA require all modules to be passed at grade. That's misleading at best......and telling porkies at worst.

I've linked a number of times on this Tone, but I'll try to find the latest statements on that to at least allay your concerns

Tone, here are some further confirmations that only speaking and listening are required.

Here's the latest publiction from UKBA (Home Office) called Knowledge of language and life in the UK (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/modernised/cross-cut/knowledge-of-life/kol.pdf?view=Binary)

Take a look at Page 15 which states:-


This page tells you how an applicant can meet the knowledge of language and life (KoLL) in the UK requirement.
A person must meet the requirement by:
- passing the Life in the UK test
and either:
- having a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 level or above of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR)
- having a degree that was taught in English, or
- being a national of an English-speaking country.


And here's something that goes even further by clearly stating that when all 4 modules are taken under test as part of a package (often the case)
that even lower than required grades/scores at reading and writing will not be used:-


..In regards specifically to IELTS, from the table of approved providers you
will see that the lowest level of IELTS accepted by the UKBA as an
approved test is level 4. An applicant wishing to rely on an IELTS
qualification would therefore have to provide evidence that they have
obtained this qualification and have passed the speaking and listening
components at level 4.

For clarity, even though a person may be required to sit all four
components of an IELTS test, they would meet the English language
requirement by gaining a score of a minimum of level 4 in speaking and
listening only even if they failed the reading and writing components and
overall their final score was less than 4.

ie Reading – 1.5

Writing – 1.0

Speaking - 4.0

Listening – 4.0


Overall IELTS score – 2.5

The applicant is able to demonstrate they scored level 4 for speaking and
listening in an approved test by an approved provider therefore an
applicant could use such results to meet the English qualification for
partners...

Source:-https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/english_requirement_with_ielts_f


Apologies to Lancashirelad for off-topic postings

[stevewool]

congrats to you both, looks like its going to be a great xmas for many of us :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[tone]

Peter
Thank you very much! :woohoo:

Tone

[Rosie1958]

Congratulations to you both, Lancashirelad. That must be a HUGE weight off your mind! :Jump::Jump:

[John.C]

Fantastic news Lancashirelad. :xxgrinning--00xx3: You are now part of a small and exclusive club who know what you went through during that 3 hour wait. It may not be a matter of Life and Death - It just feels like it.

[tone]

:smile:

My wife just got her ILR today at Liverpool Ukba PEO.

One thing I found ironic while I was there was a big banner saying "Sorry your leaving" obviously meant for a member of staff displayed in the waiting area. but not so good for the people whose visas were being refused!
Hello again
Just arranging papers for our PEO appointment on Tues - did you take copies of your documents with you - if so all or just a few papers?

Thank you.
Tone

[rhaichard]

Congrats