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Dedworth
22nd November 2013, 11:18
British GPs are best paid in the West... but our nurses get less than average
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510905/British-GPs-best-paid-West--nurses-average.html#ixzz2lMtWU87F
One for Joe to peruse :biggrin:
joebloggs
22nd November 2013, 11:56
dedworth why dont you GOYA instead of :furious3: and become a GP :wink:
first find a medical school that will take you, after 5yrs of study, countless exams and expense, then 2yrs of foundation work and if your lucky and pass a test you can train for a further 3yrs and become a rich and lazy GP :Jump:
good luck maybe my misses can give you some exam tips :biggrin:
joebloggs
22nd November 2013, 11:57
how many Doctors are
Self-employed family doctors dedworth :wink:
Dedworth
22nd November 2013, 12:05
Self-employed family doctors -how many Doctors are dedworth :wink:
:icon_lol:
Most of the GP's round here are and our surgery reminded me of a school earlier this week closing at 12.30 for the rest of the day for "staff training" - at least that's what the notice on the door said. Might have been Christmas Shopping day :biggrin:
Anyhow we should be thankful for small mercies they've dropped the money making 0844 phone number and gone back to a normal one
joebloggs
22nd November 2013, 14:17
:laugher:
you've no idea, my misses has worked all sorts of shift hours, why don't you try and see how it :censored: your life up, especially if you've got kids :NoNo:
funny my misses is working tomorrow, and worked in walk-in centres starting at 8am and finishing at 10pm :doh
Dedworth
22nd November 2013, 14:52
Mrs D works shifts Joe inc 12 hour nights so I know a bit about that
gWaPito
22nd November 2013, 15:24
:laugher:
you've no idea, my misses has worked all sorts of shift hours, why don't you try and see how it :censored: your life up, especially if you've got kids :NoNo:
funny my misses is working tomorrow, and worked in walk-in centres starting at 8am and finishing at 10pm :doh
It's not just nurses who work those crazy hours. ..I've be doing it since the mid 80s. It's a cross we've chosen to bear. Your wife's lucky to have you :xxgrinning--00xx3:
Doc Alan
22nd November 2013, 17:09
I’m happy to be a retired, non-golf playing consultant, uninvited to this discussion between Ded and Joebloggs, and now GwaPito :biggrin: !
Thankfully my parents, both GPs, lived and worked in an era when home visits and night calls were very much part of their work ; patients were mostly grateful ; and no-one, to my knowledge, complained about their hard-earned salaries.
Just for the record, of the roughly quarter of a million UK doctors registered with the GMC ( General Medical Council ) , around a quarter of those ( 62,000 ) are on the GP Register. Slightly more than half of GPs are male. There are roughly 670,000 nurses and midwifes registered with the NMC ( Nursing & Midwifery Council ). That’s the largest group of staff employed by the NHS, and about 11 times the number of GPs. One person in 18 is now employed by the NHS.
Staff costs account for around two-thirds of spending on health services, and total UK expenditure on healthcare in 2011 was £ 143 billion.
Maths is not my best subject, and I’ve said before how vital other healthcare professionals have been in my work, but a 24/7 health service with equitable pay for all employees does have resource implications.
Re-negotiating their contracts and including provision by GPs of out-of-hours care would be easier to implement than cutting their salaries ! I’m all for increasing nurses’ salaries, and could add laboratory scientists, medical secretaries, healthcare assistants and physiotherapists ( among others ) to that list :xxgrinning--00xx3:. I also respect those whose work is unrelated to the NHS, but that's off-topic.
gWaPito
22nd November 2013, 19:09
I’m happy to be a retired, non-golf playing consultant, uninvited to this discussion between Ded and Joebloggs, and now GwaPito
Staff costs account for around two-thirds of spending on health services, and total UK expenditure on healthcare in 2011 was 143 billion
Which makes the £7 billion cost cutting exercise a drop in the ocean.
It's all for the worthy cause of helping out British business and home buyers.
Thanks for that Alan
andy222
22nd November 2013, 21:20
Mrs D works shifts Joe inc 12 hour nights so I know a bit about that
While your on here all day and reading the Daily mail? Shame on you.:biggrin:
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