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blackcat22
30th December 2013, 11:09
....Not towards me but with other men to support her parents ambitious housing project (But I still feel for the scammed victims)

Ok, so here is background info. My wife recently got her spouse VISA to UK approved in August 2013 but bcoz at the time of the approval she is nearly 9 months pregnant and cannot travel immediately as no airline will take her at that late stage of pregnancy. So we had to wait until she gave birth in the Philippines. Even after giving birth I cannot go and get her and the baby immediately as she had CS section with wound still healing and will also require about 2 months off work for me to go there and arrange the baby passport. So bcoz of this I decided to delay bringing them to UK until May 2014 bcoz this period is when my work contract will expire and I'll be free to travel away however long I want.

Now my wife is not someone that likes material things, she is quite happy with cheap stuff and in a way have the mindset of a child even though she is 28yrs old. Even at that age of 28yrs she rely on her parents to do everything for her. No she is not disabled at all. She is very obedient to her parents and I think in a way her parents using this obedience to manipulate her. I once tried to give her some support money before we married and she told me she not need it that she will simply give it to her parents. Even if you will pass it to your parents at least keep 2k for yourself, I said. So you can see her mindset from the start. I just got back from phils 3 weeks ago and I decided to treat my wife to some clothes shopping, she simply said no need to shopping for her bcoz she already have many clothes. Again you can see this from her mindset. She is not looking for material gain for herself. So you can imagine my surprise when I discovered some information that implicate my wife in scamming activities against other men.

On Dec 18th 2013 Some random person(woman) using a fake facebook account sent me a msg on facebook begging me to add her as friends so they can tell me what my wife is doing while I'm away from phils. I didn't see this msg immediately as it went into facebook private msg spam folder.

But few days ago my wife said she wanted to tell me something in case some foreign guy sent me pics of him posing with her parents. this pics was taken when we briefly broke up in 2010 and she invited this guy to visit her she said. So I said ok no problem if in fact it is true that the event occurred back in 2010 and not after we are already married. I asked where the guy from, she replied Australia.

My wife then said the Australian guy recently threatened to kidnap her and our child if my wife will not go back to him.

so now I tried to find more info about this Australian guy, So my wife sent me a screenshot of the Australian guy posing with another woman in facebook. From the name my wife gave of the Austraian guy I can't find him in facebook search so I tried to contact the woman he was posing with in the pic but so far no luck.

Now I received a msg from the fake facebook user earlier telling me that my wife is a bad person and everything he did to kevin(The austraian guy) and other men is wrong. She said kevin(australian guy) told her everything and kevin is taking my wife to court in February 2014.

Now, why would kevin(australian guy) take my wife to court unless he felt cheated or lost money in the process of whatever brief encounter he had with my wife?

Even my wife confirmed that the Australian guy threaten to block her passport so she will not be able to leave the country.

So now you can see the complicated situation I find myself. The kevin guy after realizing he was pouring money down the drain and going no where with it finally snapped and decided enough is enough and is now taking my wife to court possibly to recover all the money scammed from him by my wife.

I must also let you know that my wife parents are building their own brand new house and I have only deliberately helped them with very tiny fractions of what it will cost toward the completion of the house. So now i'm thinking maybe her parent have engaged my wife in scamming activities towards other men to make up the rest of the cost of their new house and that is where this kevin(Australian guy) and possibly other men come into the picture.

For instance I know for a fact that, few weeks ago when I visited my wife's parent new house, completion level is advance and her dad showed me drilling on a deep well which cost 80k in the front yard. I remembered saying to myself back then "how the hell did he managed to afford 80k for this deep well?" So it is likely it was kevin(the Australian guy) and possibly other men(scam victims) are the one financing my wife's parents housing project.

Now with this new revelations from the anonymous facebook tipster everything is now becoming clear.

Bearing in mind that 99.9% of scamming victims will just shrug their shoulder and move on once they realized they have been scammed. But I think with this kevin guy my wife came across the 0.1% that will seek justice and will not take it lying down. Hence why he is taking my wife to court in February and seeking judge injunction to block my wife passport until case is heard so my wife cannot travel abroad.

Also 2 days ago On computer screenshot pic of the Australian guy my wife sent me I saw on the browser tab that she opened page to a dating site on her laptop. (she probably forgot to close that dating page before sending me the screenshot). I then searched for her profile on that dating site with her age range and broad location search but did not see her profile so it's like she is not using her real pics on that dating site. This is another evidence to prove that she is still actively engaged in scamming. Her parent's house is not yet completed and some poor old scamming victim is the one going to foot the bill so she thinking.

I'm 100% confident that my wife's parent are the ones manipulating her to scam other men to give them the money to finance their ambitious housing project. Now it's all blowing up in their faces and unfortunately I'm caught in the middle.

I'm still trying to find out the fact if this kevin Australian guy came into the picture in 2010 before I married my wife or after we married. it seems odd the kevin guy is taking court action in Feb 2014 if while the events occurred back in 2010.

What do you guy advise? shall I go and get my wife now and leave the baby with her parents for later before this Australian guy seek judge injunction to block her passport? Bearing in mind our daughter is only 3 months old however for obvious reason my wife cannot breast feed her anyway so that's not an issue.

tiger31
30th December 2013, 11:37
are you sure your wife is not participating in the scam against her will ,because if I could prove that I would leave her and the baby behind just my opinion .This is,nt going to end very well and might cost you a good bit of money to sort out .You need to understand one thing they the family will only tell you what you want to hear ,which in lots of similar cases is far from it .I can,t believe you have had this problem so early on in your marriage .

SimonH
30th December 2013, 11:41
I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one :Erm:
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :cwm25:

tiger31
30th December 2013, 11:56
I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one :Erm:
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :cwm25:

thats a strange thing to say simon why would anyone put this information on here if it was someone else what could be the gain in this.

grahamw48
30th December 2013, 11:59
A sad tale, and not unusual.

I wish this Kevin guy the best of luck if he thinks he can successfully pursue a Filipino through the Philippines courts (at enormous cost of course).
He sounds pretty naive all round.

This is what can happen when men have their :censored: in one hand and their wallet in the other. :NoNo:

Good luck OP. I can't really give advice, as this is such a 'personal' situation, in which your own judgment needs to be used.

SimonH
30th December 2013, 12:03
thats a strange thing to say simon why would anyone put this information on here if it was someone else what could be the gain in this.

Tiger, I'm not sure what the game plan (if there even is one) is, which is why I said apologies if I'm wrong to start with. It just seems a poorly grammatically constructed tale of woe by comparison to other posts that blackcat22 has posted. Lack of punctuation etc, as I said probably just me and my sceptical nature :Erm:

tiger31
30th December 2013, 12:18
Tiger, I'm not sure what the game plan (if there even is one) is, which is why I said apologies if I'm wrong to start with. It just seems a poorly grammatically constructed tale of woe by comparison to other posts that blackcat22 has posted. Lack of punctuation etc, as I said probably just me and my sceptical nature :Erm:

yes I think thats it lol my grammer is pitiful too english was,nt my favorite subject at school :biggrin: I don,t really care about the grammer as long as I get my point across thats good enough for me :smile:

joebloggs
30th December 2013, 12:25
I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one :Erm:
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :cwm25:

you may be right, the posters IP address is coming from Hungary, unless he's in Hungary:Erm: or they are using a proxy.

Trefor
30th December 2013, 13:41
Lets assume this is real, I see two options:

- Find Kevin and get the real story. He is probably venting on a similar forum in Australia. He may not be using his real name of course and you could run into the same scammer who is creating this 'situation'.
- Ask your wife about it, maybe start by asking about where the money came from for the house before going too far.

sars_notd_virus
30th December 2013, 17:45
Suspect my wife is engaged in scamming activities ....Not towards me but with other men to support her parents ambitious housing project (But I still feel for the scammed victims)



shall I go and get my wife now and leave the baby with her parents for later before this Australian guy seek judge injunction to block her passport?

The first and last paragraph is contradictory...so do you actually feel for the scammed victims and help your wife escape with the mess by bringing her here in the UK??

I do not believe your wife is manipulated by her parents , she's an expert and you got evidence she is still on a dating site by sending screenshots with browser tabs links to a dating site.



What do you guy advise?

blackcat if it feels wrong believe me 98% of the time it is.
hope you made the right decision, good luck and take care.

mickcant
31st December 2013, 07:12
If this is really the case, his wife will not tell him the truth if she is involved, her parents will always be 1st in her life!
Men & women, British or Filipino can lie through their teeth if they feel it's necessary, I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies!

Mick.:Erm:

Ako Si Jamie
31st December 2013, 07:53
If she comes to the U.K the parents won't have an income from the scamming due to her leaving, which could lead to you being the primary source of their dishonesty.

Would she steal or be dishonest towards you if her parents told her to?

Michael Parnham
31st December 2013, 10:27
Interesting, tread very carefully Blackcat!:Erm:

bigmac
31st December 2013, 13:38
I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies

how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

tiger31
31st December 2013, 13:50
I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies

how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

aw man spill the beans don,t leave us hanging on the edge lol this forum is like coronation street lol

fred
31st December 2013, 13:53
Dont ever cross a black cat.
Its bad luck! :cwm25:

tiger31
31st December 2013, 15:24
Dont ever cross a black cat.
Its bad luck!:cwm25:
well if shes a scammer it is sure as hell bad luck being married to one .but also strange no more replies from the cat

Ako Si Jamie
31st December 2013, 18:58
I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

bigmarco
31st December 2013, 20:38
I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

:xxgrinning--00xx3: I agree first plane out there and get things sorted face to face.

Michael Parnham
31st December 2013, 21:02
I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

Well said Jamie, I would do the same!

andy222
31st December 2013, 23:37
Sad to hear about your story. The first question I would ask myself is. Is it my kid she is carrying?. Secondly I would think to myself. Is it safe to go over there?. I really hope you get this sorted but I cant offer any advice sorry.

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:25
I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one :Erm:
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :cwm25:

Hi Simon..That was well spotted...that's worth a rep

I feel for you Blackcat...this happened with my first filipina wife from Davao..they forced her here thus taking my business which, to this day, is making a tidy sum of money.

I can't see how the Oz is going to get his money back

I couldnt say cut them lose becoz your baby is involved..otherwise I'd say dump them now

Either way Blackcat, your lady hasnt been truthful with you..so so sorry mate, I know the pain you are going through right now

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:28
:xxgrinning--00xx3: I agree first plane out there and get things sorted face to face.

If only for the sake of his baby, his flesh and blood

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:33
I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.


These provincial types carry never ending debt..they feel they owe becoz they were helped when they were in the dirt
It doesnt stop

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:36
If she comes to the U.K the parents won't have an income from the scamming due to her leaving, which could lead to you being the primary source of their dishonesty.

Would she steal or be dishonest towards you if her parents told her to?

My first piny wife did..........if it's going on there, you can bet your bottom dollar it will continue here :cwm23:

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:37
aw man spill the beans don,t leave us hanging on the edge lol this forum is like coronation street lol

I've been told it's better than watching corrie

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:40
Lets assume this is real, I see two options:

- Find Kevin and get the real story. He is probably venting on a similar forum in Australia. He may not be using his real name of course and you could run into the same scammer who is creating this 'situation'.
- Ask your wife about it, maybe start by asking about where the money came from for the house before going too far.

He could be using the names Fred or Joe :Erm:

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 00:52
how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

My first wife (British) of 27 years was brilliant with looking after the money..it was a shame she had trouble with her knicker elastic otherwise I'd still be with her in our £300,000 house bought and paid for:NoNo: Instead i took up with a couple of conniving scrubbers....I must do better next time :xxgrinning--00xx3:

tiger31
1st January 2014, 02:03
Hi Simon..That was well spotted...that's worth a rep

I feel for you Blackcat...this happened with my first filipina wife from Davao..they forced her here thus taking my business which, to this day, is making a tidy sum of money.

I can't see how the Oz is going to get his money back

I couldnt say cut them lose becoz your baby is involved..otherwise I'd say dump them now

Either way Blackcat, your lady hasnt been truthful with you..so so sorry mate, I know the pain you are going through right now
what business was that mark ?

London_Manila
1st January 2014, 04:13
I thought scamming was considered as normal behavior in the Phills :xxparty-smiley-004:

rani
1st January 2014, 06:48
I thought scamming was considered as normal behavior in the Phills :xxparty-smiley-004:

I totally disagree with this... Yes, its happening but i dont think you consider it normal as most of the members here have met and still with their love ones. Unfortunately, some experienced the opposite :NoNo:

Just be vigilant and use your head too (not just your heart) when you search for a partner.

tiger31
1st January 2014, 06:59
I totally disagree with this... Yes, its happening but i dont think you wont consider it normal as most of the members here have met and still with their love ones. Unfortunately, some experienced the opposite :NoNo:

Just be vigilant and use your head too (not just your heart) when you search for a partner.

Wishing everyone a happy and prosperous 2014!
:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Michael Parnham
1st January 2014, 09:36
I totally disagree with this... Yes, its happening but i dont think you wont consider it normal as most of the members here have met and still with their love ones. Unfortunately, some experienced the opposite :NoNo:

Just be vigilant and use your head too (not just your heart) when you search for a partner.

Wishing everyone a happy and prosperous 2014!

Well said Rani! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Iani
1st January 2014, 10:11
This is your wife, it's not on! There's websites devoted to confronting such behaviour on dating sites, and it's not uncommon unfortunately.
Tempting as it might be to get out there and confront the situation, the advice others have given about "is it safe to" must be considered.

Really though in a relationship, the biggest thing is trust - once this goes, the relationship at best is never the same again, and at worst is finished. There must be a severe dent to this trust to be posting it on a public forum :cwm25:

Oh by the way, you said her visa was granted in August, but in a previous post you said it was granted in October?

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 22:27
I totally disagree with this... Yes, its happening but i dont think you consider it normal as most of the members here have met and still with their love ones. Unfortunately, some experienced the opposite :NoNo:

Just be vigilant and use your head too (not just your heart) when you search for a partner.

I think you've taken LMs post the wrong way. You'll find it was all tongue and cheek..having a laugh.

We don't know the success rates for these dating sites. .at least I don't so I'd say the jury is still out on that one.

I'd be inclined to take a private detective along with me next time. ..let him do all the leg work while i have the fun. ..it'll be money well spent :xxgrinning--00xx3:


Just joking :biggrin:

gWaPito
1st January 2014, 22:32
what business was that mark ?

Crystal clear franchise. ..spent around 3 to 4 million. That was 7 years ago. Evidently they just paid out for a new replacement multi cab.
The family are doing very well. I got a nark feeding me bits and bobs when news worthy.

tiger31
2nd January 2014, 01:27
Crystal clear franchise. ..spent around 3 to 4 million. That was 7 years ago. Evidently they just paid out for a new replacement multi cab.
The family are doing very well. I got a nark feeding me bits and bobs when news worthy.

wow 3 to 4 million thats a big hit to take mark, don,t know what crystal clear as never heard of it. I will google and take a look. well at least you,re older and wiser now - once bitten and all that. Its just a shame you had to find out the hard way.

London_Manila
2nd January 2014, 01:43
I totally disagree with this... Yes, its happening but i dont think you consider it normal as most of the members here have met and still with their love ones. Unfortunately, some experienced the opposite :NoNo:

Just be vigilant and use your head too (not just your heart) when you search for a partner.

That statement was meant as a joke but sadly you thought i was being serious

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 01:50
wow 3 to 4 million thats a big hit to take mark, don,t know what crystal clear is never heard of it. I will google and take a look .well at least you,re older and wiser now - once bitten and all that. Its just a shame you had to find out the hard way.

Yep Big hit indeed..that was when 3 and 4 million was worth £30,000 and £40,000

I thought I could get that back..just like this Ozzy..no chance..not even with my name on the Solerex paperwork

That relationship didn't cost me as much as the 2nd :NoNo: At least that one only took my money. The present wife wants to take my soul as well.........she may have well fooled the idiots down here..she won't fool our Maker. She's bound to be in for a long spell of wailing and gnashing of teeth :xxgrinning--00xx3:

London_Manila
2nd January 2014, 01:51
I think you've taken LMs post the wrong way. You'll find it was all tongue and cheek..having a laugh.

We don't know the success rates for these dating sites. .at least I don't so I'd say the jury is still out on that one.

I'd be inclined to take a private detective along wd me next time. ..let him do all the leg work while i have the fun. ..it'll be money well spent :xxgrinning--00xx3:


Just joking :biggrin:

Its nice to know at least someone gets my humour :wink:

The ones i did meet from a dating site seemed to be the semi pro variety

Not implying all women on dating sites are working girls.................

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 01:52
That statement was meant as a joke but sadly you thought i was being serious

I knew it was LM...I thought the sofa gave it away:doh

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 01:57
wow 3 to 4 million thats a big hit to take mark, don,t know what crystal clear is never heard of it. I will google and take a look. well at least you,re older and wiser now once bitten and all that,Its just a shame you had to find out the hard way .

It wasn't enough Brian..I needed 2 big bites to wake me up..I did it all again

I'm wise now..be it a broken wise man :icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

tiger31
2nd January 2014, 05:39
It wasn't enough Brian..I needed 2 big bites to wake me up..I did it all again

I'm wise now..be it a broken wise man :icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

you have certainly been through the mill mark, but at least you have survived only just. not sure if I was in your shoes that I could have come out of it ok. no wonder some men become woman haters it,s not all about the money but the emotional side that,s the most damaging. I wish we could rewind the clock and do things different to the way we done things wrong in the first place.

rani
2nd January 2014, 07:51
That statement was meant as a joke but sadly you thought i was being serious

What the heart feels... The mouth speaks :Wave:

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 11:43
you have certainly been through the mill mark, but at least you have survived only just. not sure if I was in your shoes that I could have come out of it ok. no wonder some men become woman haters it,s not all about the money but the emotional side that,s the most damaging. I wish we could rewind the clock and do things different to the way we done things wrong in the first place.

Many guys have taken their own lives for much less...I'm thankful I have my work and a good loving family behind me..I still earn good money ..I still got many (God willing) productive years ahead of me.

Had I not then..I cld well of ended up like those who decided to call it a day

hawk
2nd January 2014, 12:21
it happens to the best if she,s like this in phil nothing to stop her doing same in uk only worth more money married or not you got evidance she,s done this go get your baby and get marrage finished it can only end in misery unless you condone her doing this if she does this in uk and you know it happens you could be in trouble for not informing police

tiger31
2nd January 2014, 12:24
still no reply from the blackcat mmmmm

Michael Parnham
2nd January 2014, 12:35
still no reply from the blackcat mmmmm

Probably on a plane Brian! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Michael Parnham
2nd January 2014, 12:40
Many guys have taken their own lives for much less...I'm thankful I have my work and a good loving family behind me..I still earn good money ..I still got many (God willing) productive years ahead of me.

Had I not then..I cld well of ended up like those who decided to call it a day

Wow! Wish I had family and friends behind me Mark! :anerikke:

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 15:50
Wow! Wish I had family and friends behind me Mark!:anerikke:

:Erm:

BTW. ..family being my daughter and mother. ..The rest are all too busy running their own lives

There's a subtle difference between you and I Michael. .mine ran off with my babies

gWaPito
2nd January 2014, 15:56
it happens to the best if she,s like this in phil nothing to stop her doing same in uk only worth more money married or not you got evidance she,s done this go get your baby and get marrage finished it can only end in misery unless you condone her doing this if she does this in uk and you know it happens you could be in trouble for not informing police
He won't get his child Hawk. ..not unless she gives the baby up willingly. ..fat chance of that. ..you are right about the rest though. .He should cut loose. ..life's tough enough without adding more weight on your shoulders

cheekee
2nd January 2014, 16:03
For me I would have to say goodbye. The trust would be broken and if she can be of the opinion that this is ok to do then I'm afraid that's unacceptable in my book.

Black cat I hope things work out for you.

Michael Parnham
2nd January 2014, 23:07
:Erm:

BTW. ..family being my daughter and mother. ..The rest are all too busy running their own lives

There's a subtle difference between you and I Michael. .mine ran off with my babies

What I mean are my brothers and sister they don't want to know me since I married Maritess and what worries me is, when I'm gone she will have no one to turn to when she needs help dealing with everything, she wouldn't even know who to call. I just hope I'm around long enough to be able to keep teaching her more so that she will be able to cope with life here on her own! :cwm25:

marksroomspain
2nd January 2014, 23:34
What I mean are my brothers and sister they don't want to know me since I married Maritess and what worries me is, when I'm gone she will have no one to turn to when she needs help dealing with everything, she wouldn't even know who to call. I just hope I'm around long enough to be able to keep teaching her more so that she will be able to cope with life here on her own! :cwm25:

Michael a nice man I know you are and as long as your happy with your beautiful wife then sod the rest.

I have learnt today that sometimes blood is not always thicker than water.

As long as you are both happy then so what, I am sure Maritess will learn a wealth from all the love you have shown her.

A well deserved rep :xxgrinning--00xx3:

grahamw48
2nd January 2014, 23:42
...and a rep from me too Michael...same reason. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

gWaPito
3rd January 2014, 00:46
Sorry Michael. .misunderstanding :NoNo:

Mark's right. .blood isn't always thinker that water. ..not here in the west it isn't.

Your daily walks should add many years Michael. ..you've got loads of time :xxgrinning--00xx3:

A rep from me as well :'))

Ako Si Jamie
3rd January 2014, 01:18
What I mean are my brothers and sister they don't want to know me since I married Maritess Because of the age difference?

If that is the case, it's very shallow and somewhat pathetic. You're best off without them Michael.

gWaPito
3rd January 2014, 04:13
Because of the age difference?

If that is the case, it's very shallow and somewhat pathetic. You're best off without them Michael.

My thoughts exactly Jamie

cheekee
3rd January 2014, 07:14
Don't believe what your wife said. It is easy to lie.
Did the Australian Guy send you a letter that he will take your wife to the court? Or was it your wife tells you that?
before you take actions know both sides of the stories, before you believe your wife, think. Some people can be so nice in your face but opposite when you're not looking. You can't just judge your wife as a good person just because she's not materialistic. Sometimes people are trying to be good to get what they want.

It should be you wife's will to do such things, even if her parents manipulate her ,she should be thinking about you. What will be your reaction and how would you feel about it.

Sad to say , I guess your wife wasn't being real to you.

To those who got scammed I'm sorry but let me tell you this good women still do exist. Not just us Filipina , they are around the world.

I'm Phil's girlfriend by the way.

cheekee
3rd January 2014, 07:20
Maybe blackcat is just stressed.

Michael Parnham
3rd January 2014, 07:54
Thankyou for your comments, Mark, Graham, Marksroomspain and Jamie, much appreciated!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

grahamw48
3rd January 2014, 11:44
.

To those who got scammed I'm sorry but let me tell you this good women still do exist. Not just us Filipina , they are around the world.

Correct. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

gWaPito
3rd January 2014, 14:26
Thankyou for your comments, Mark, Graham, Marksroomspain and Jamie, much appreciated!:xxgrinning--00xx3:
You're welcome Michael. .I feel guilty as hell for jumping down your throat :icon_sorry:

Happy new year :heartshape1:

gWaPito
3rd January 2014, 14:32
Don't believe what your wife said. It is easy to lie.
Did the Australian Guy send you a letter that he will take your wife to the court? Or was it your wife tells you that?
before you take actions know both sides of the stories, before you believe your wife, think. Some people can be so nice in your face but opposite when you're not looking. You can't just judge your wife aas a good person just because she's not materialistic. Sometimes people are trying to be good to get what they want.

It should be you wife's will to do such things, even if her parents manipulate her ,she should be thinking about you. What will be your reaction and how would you feel about it.

Sad to say , I guess your wife wasn't being real to you.

To those who got scammed I'm sorry but let me tell you this good women still do exist. Not just us Filipina , they are around the world.

I'm Phil's girlfriend by the way.

Exactly ...For those unfortunates amongst us who have been i'm afraid a lot of the blame lands at our door.
I'm looking forward to a bright Happy future :biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:

marlyn&kenny
7th January 2014, 23:12
The first and last paragraph is contradictory...so do you actually feel for the scammed victims and help your wife escape with the mess by bringing her here in the UK??

I do not believe your wife is manipulated by her parents , she's an expert and you got evidence she is still on a dating site by sending screenshots with browser tabs links to a dating site.




blackcat if it feels wrong believe me 98% of the time it is.
hope you made the right decision, good luck and take care.


We'll said girl!
And how could he even think of leaving their baby behind? oMG!
Sorry to say but she is one of those Filipino scammers, embarrassing for us pinay but what can we do?

Steve.r
8th January 2014, 00:50
I think a response from the OP would help as everyone is speculating.

grahamw48
8th January 2014, 01:12
That's what I was thinking Steve. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

London_Manila
8th January 2014, 01:31
Don't believe what your wife said. It is easy to lie.
Did the Australian Guy send you a letter that he will take your wife to the court? Or was it your wife tells you that?
before you take actions know both sides of the stories, before you believe your wife, think. Some people can be so nice in your face but opposite when you're not looking. You can't just judge your wife aas a good person just because she's not materialistic. Sometimes people are trying to be good to get what they want.

It should be you wife's will to do such things, even if her parents manipulate her ,she should be thinking about you. What will be your reaction and how would you feel about it.

Sad to say , I guess your wife wasn't being real to you.

To those who got scammed I'm sorry but let me tell you this good women still do exist. Not just us Filipina , they are around the world.

I'm Phil's girlfriend by the way.

I Agree

I am sad to say that i have met some deluded fools who don't want to see the truth even when it's so easy for everyone else to see

gWaPito
8th January 2014, 23:34
I Agree

I am sad to say that i have met some deluded fools who don't want to see the truth even when it's so easy for everyone else to see
Absolutely LM :xxgrinning--00xx3:

gWaPito
8th January 2014, 23:45
We'll said girl!
And how could he even think of leaving their baby behind? oMG!
Sorry to say but she is one of those Filipino scammers, embarrassing for us pinay but what can we do?

This unfortunately is the dilemma Blackcat faces..I for one couldn't leave my baby sons behind..no way on earth could I
The mother isnt goin to give him up either...if her parents are happy to let their daughter prostitute herself so they can have a 'nice' home then it doesn't bear thinking about the babe
Blackcat needs to get them both to the UK soon as possible...maybe even pretend go along with their seedy plans..all until they are here..then pull the plug on her

Ako Si Jamie
9th January 2014, 01:26
This unfortunately is the dilemma Blackcat faces..I for one couldn't leave my baby sons behind..no way on earth could I
The mother isnt goin to give him up either...if her parents are happy to let their daughter prostitute herself so they can have a 'nice' home then it doesn't bear thinking about the babe
Blackcat needs to get them both to the UK soon as possible...maybe even pretend go along with their seedy plans..all until they are here..then pull the plug on herIf that was me, I'd be finding out whether the baby was mine or not before buying a couple of plane tickets.

tiger31
9th January 2014, 04:54
If that was me, I'd be finding out whether the baby was mine or not before buying a couple of plane tickets.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:me too

tiger31
9th January 2014, 04:55
what is more annoying is the fact that blackcat has never replied once to his original post, so he can,t be that worried if you ask me.

gWaPito
9th January 2014, 08:20
We dont know. This is going to be a shock to the system. People react in different ways..all those dreams up in smoke..It does take the wind out of your sails, I can tell you. The baby is key here, without it then it would be a simple case of pick yourself up, dust yourself down and start again

malditako
9th January 2014, 11:00
this post is probably a scam as well :icon_lol:...anyway on a serious note why complicate things..people do unacceptable behavior when they are desperate but people do change. If you really love her tell her to stop her wrongdoings and make a fresh start with you. If she still continue then go get your child and leave her

grahamw48
9th January 2014, 11:20
Getting the child (IF there is any truth in this thread) will be a major problem.

For one thing it is accepted in the Phils (law?) that the mother has custody of the child up to 7 years of age.

Another good reason for wearing a condom until you are in a position to provide a stable and loving home, living together as a couple, before making babies...IMHO.

SimonH
9th January 2014, 11:27
As others have said, I find it very strange that Blackcat hasn't responded to any posts. I expressed my concerns on page one and then Joe confirmed that his IP address was in Hungary, (again I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong) but Blackcat was online and viewing the thread (his little green light was on) so why didn't he say anything then :Erm:

gWaPito
9th January 2014, 12:16
this post is probably a scam as well :icon_lol:...anyway on a serious note why complicate things..people do unacceptable behavior when they are desperate but people do change. If you really love her tell her to stop her wrong doings and make a fresh start with you. If she still continue then go get your child and leave her

You of all people should know that can't be done :doh Even if the mother doesn't give a hoot about the child's wellbeing she'll be all to aware that the half British child will set her up in benefits and free social housing for life if she were to make it over here. Desperate people do do desperate things but, not to Blackcat's partner's extent :NoNo: Once the trust has gone, there's no going back

Whether this thread is a scam or not, I bet you someone's going through it

gWaPito
9th January 2014, 12:20
Getting the child [B](IF there is any truth in this thread) will be a major problem.

For one thing it is accepted in the Phils (law?) that the mother has custody of the child up to 7 years of age.

Another good reason for wearing a condom until you are in a position to provide a stable an loving home, living together as a couple, before making babies...IMHO.

:icon_lol: This is cyberland..nothing is real. Even mods Joe and Fred have said they are not using their real names. It's all fantasy :icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Not many of us genuine guys around Graham :biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:

SimonH
9th January 2014, 12:24
:icon_lol: This is cyberland..nothing is real. Even mods Joe and Fred have said they are not using their real names. It's all fantasy :icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Not many of us genuine guys around Graham :biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:


I don't know what you mean.


Lots of love


Valerie :heartshape1:

gWaPito
9th January 2014, 12:47
Cheers Simon..Thanks for the rep :biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:

I've still got to share it around

Ako Si Jamie
9th January 2014, 20:34
Not sure why people think Blackcat's story is some kind of scam! :Erm:

What would he gain from it?

It sounds believable enough to me although I'm miffed as to why he hasn't replied. Perhaps he did take the first plane over.

grahamw48
9th January 2014, 21:51
Don't think I'd be in the mood for talking about it. :NoNo:

mickcant
9th January 2014, 23:13
Certainly left us all wondering? :cwm24:
Mick.

gWaPito
10th January 2014, 02:06
Don't think I'd be in the mood for talking about it. :NoNo:

exactly...we are not all made the same :NoNo:

Arthur Little
10th January 2014, 02:20
exactly...we are not all made the same :NoNo:

Aye, well ... :anerikke: ... takes ALL kinds. :wink:

gWaPito
10th January 2014, 08:26
Aye, well ... :anerikke: ... takes ALL kinds. :wink:

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

sars_notd_virus
12th January 2014, 15:46
Sorry to say but she is one of those Filipino scammers, embarrassing for us pinay but what can we do?


Blackcat was online and viewing the thread (his little green light was on) so why didn't he say anything then :Erm:

Lol I think we scared the Original poster of this thread :biggrin:

Rory
12th January 2014, 16:32
At least the person who started this thread has got us all talking about it.

As SimonH spotted with the grammar, then Joe tracking the IP address to Hungry and also Blackcat being online but not replying, i myself do not believe the story and then asking for advise on here!!!!

Advise.... launch her.

sars_notd_virus
13th January 2014, 18:46
At least the person who started this thread has got us all talking about it.

As SimonH spotted with the grammar, then Joe tracking the IP address to Hungry and also Blackcat being online but not replying, i myself do not believe the story and then asking for advise on here!!!!

Advise.... launch her.
:yikes::biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:..good one

Longweekend
13th January 2014, 19:54
What a wind up.....

gWaPito
13th January 2014, 20:15
This particular story may well be but, It goes on. A number of us can vouch for that.

Ako Si Jamie
25th January 2014, 00:06
I expressed my concerns on page one and then Joe confirmed that his IP address was in Hungary, Perhaps he was working out there. :Erm:

gWaPito
25th January 2014, 00:16
Perhaps he was working out there. :Erm:
That crossed my mind as well Jamie