Bob Crows £10000 Luxury Holiday

[Dedworth]

High life of Bob, the lobster-red baron: With his members set to bring misery to commuters this week, rail union boss Crow escapes to sip cocktails in Rio sunshine

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549825/High-life-Bob-lobster-red-baron-With-members-set-bring-misery-commuters-week-rail-union-boss-Crow-escapes-sip-cocktails-Rio-sunshine.html#ixzz2s40jQW9x

Nice work if you can get it

[Longweekend]

He should not be entitled to a council house if he earns that much...:cwm23:

[bigmarco]

Typical Daily Mail hit job.
I will be on a picket line for 4 days over the next 2 weeks Because a Tory mayor broke a promise to us.
I'm proud of Bob and even prouder of the RMT the only real fighting union left.

[joebloggs]

He should not be entitled to a council house if he earns that much...:cwm23:

income is not a factor when applying for a council house, but priority is given to people in certain circumstances.


Now back home at to his tax-payer funded London council house


£145,000-a-year union firebrand enjoys £10,000 luxury holiday

well at a guess he's paying over £4,000 a month in tax so he's hardly a benefit scrounger :biggrin:

[Dedworth]

income is not a factor when applying for a council house, but priority is given to people in certain circumstances.





well at a guess he's paying over £4,000 a month in tax so he's hardly a benefit scrounger :biggrin:


Just a salt of the earth Champagne Socialist

[Dedworth]

Sun-seeking strike boss Bob Crow accused of treating workers with contempt as new pictures show him dancing poolside with girlfriend in Rio

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550685/Sun-seeker-Bob-Crow-faces-backlash-Tube-strike-looms-Union-chief-accused-treating-workers-contempt-pictures-emerge-dancing-girlfriend-visiting-Christ-Redeemer-statue.html#ixzz2sFXeOv74

Marco - Has he sent you a postcard ? :icon_lol:

[andy222]

He can have a nice holiday with my subscriptions anyday.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andy222]

Typical Daily Mail hit job.
I will be on a picket line for 4 days over the next 2 weeks Because a Tory mayor broke a promise to us.
I'm proud of Bob and even prouder of the RMT the only real fighting union left.
What you need is all the rail workers of all companies behind you Marco.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sFXeOv74

Bob ... :anerikke: ... whatever he might be called,
Whether a "Crow" or rook,
Seems in my book ... the vacation he took
Is causin' a lotta :cwm23: rave'n :23_116_6[1]:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/02/article-2550685-1B28BF6100000578-788_306x695.jpg

.......................... :yeahthat: !

Where'er he's tanning his bald
head ... let it ne'er be said :Blacklistnonono:
That "birds (like he 'n' [the late] Vic Feather)
Shall not forever, stick together"!! :wink:

[Dedworth]

30 per cent of RMT and TSSA members balloted voting for strike action, and around 70 per cent either not voting or voting no.

I wonder if there is a reciprocal arrangement between the RMT & TSSA with them each going out on strike when the other has a dispute.

[bigmarco]

Great to see Bob back yesterday in time for the start of the strike. He's has not at any stage been a part of our negotiating team at ACAS so absolutely no problem with him taking his well earned holiday.
It may come as a surprise to some but for as long as I can remember the members of the RMT have never given a flying :censored: for what the fascist Daily Mail or it's readers think of Bob or our union.

[SimonH]

What a :censored: comes back from a £10,000 holiday a day before the strike is due to start and says he wont call the strike off before entering talks. Talks about :Erm: oh yes, modernisation bringing the oldest tube network in the world kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Get back to your tax payer funded council house you :censored: lobster :cwm23:

[joebloggs]

30 per cent of RMT and TSSA members balloted voting for strike action, and around 70 per cent either not voting or voting no.



near enough the same % of votes the Tories got at the last election, 64% didn't vote for them :biggrin:

[bigmarco]

I wonder if there is a reciprocal arrangement between the RMT & TSSA with them each going out on strike when the other has a dispute.

Definitely not Ded. They're lightweights as far as industrial action is concerned.

[Dedworth]

Beach Bum Bob booked his holiday through the Daily Mail :laugher:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/02/bob-crow-i-booked-my-brazil-holiday-through-the-daily-mail/

[Jamesey]

I'm not really bothered about Bob Crow's holiday arrangements. I'm more worried abut what damage he is doing to our country.

He is the leader of a militant union, willing to selfishly hold the country to ransom. Hopefully the strike will not cause the chaos that the unions are hoping for. :cwm23:

[gWaPito]

income is not a factor when applying for a council house, but priority is given to people in certain circumstances.





well at a guess he's paying over £4,000 a month in tax so he's hardly a benefit scrounger :biggrin:

He's keeping some poor family on the streets with a greater need for his council house

[andy222]

I'm not really bothered about Bob Crow's holiday arrangements. I'm more worried abut what damage he is doing to our country.

He is the leader of a militant union, willing to selfishly hold the country to ransom. Hopefully the strike will not cause the chaos that the unions are hoping for. :cwm23:
I think the country needs to be bought to a standstill to teach this dictatorship of a government a lesson. There has been nothing said in this thread of how the tories are protecting the fat cat bankers.:cwm23:

[Jamesey]

I think the country needs to be bought to a standstill to teach this dictatorship of a government a lesson. There has been nothing said in this thread of how the tories are protecting the fat cat bankers.:cwm23:

What has this got to do with protecting fat cat bankers? That's not right either!

Your view that "this country needs to be brought to a standstill" is vindictive and militant. If you don't like the government, then do something about it at the next General Election.

The Government have been talking about new laws to curb union powers in key sectors. The sooner the better! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

What has this thread got to do with protecting fat cat bankers? That's not right either!

Your view that "this country needs to be brought to a standstill" is vindictive and militant. If you don't like the government, then do something about it at the next General Election.

The Government have been talking about new laws to curb union powers in key sectors. The sooner the better! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Absolutely Jamesey, an excellent post :xxgrinning--00xx3: Rep on it's way

[Dedworth]

I think the country needs to be bought to a standstill to teach this dictatorship of a government a lesson. There has been nothing said in this thread of how the tories are protecting the fat cat bankers.:cwm23:

Would these "Fat Cat Bankers" be, by any chance, the same bunch of city slickers that the Blair/Brown Politburo cosied up to 1997 - 2010 ?

[London_Manila]

He's keeping some poor family on the streets with a greater need for his council house

Yes i am sure the soon to arrive Syrian refugees would love bob's house :wink:

[London_Manila]

Oh are union leaders not allowed to take holidays now :action-smiley-081:

As bob informed the Daily Mail he booked this trip from an advert in their paper :icon_lol:

[London_Manila]

30 per cent of RMT and TSSA members balloted voting for strike action, and around 70 per cent either not voting or voting no.

I wonder if there is a reciprocal arrangement between the RMT & TSSA with them each going out on strike when the other has a dispute.

Who cares TFL look for any excuse to stop these strikes going ahead
Crying to a local judge never worked this time

Of course Dedworth if you worked in a London Underground ticket office then you would be taking a very different line

Boris Johnson is a lier and has back tracked on statements he made about London Underground ticket office's and the Fire Service

The strike is legal and going ahead = get over it

[London_Manila]

I'm not really bothered about Bob Crow's holiday arrangements. I'm more worried abut what damage he is doing to our country.

He is the leader of a militant union, willing to selfishly hold the country to ransom. Hopefully the strike will not cause the chaos that the unions are hoping for. :cwm23:

Protecting people's jobs is what he is doing but you cant see the wood for the trees

Lets hope your boss never mistreats you :doh

[London_Manila]

I think the country needs to be bought to a standstill to teach this dictatorship of a government a lesson. There has been nothing said in this thread of how the tories are protecting the fat cat bankers.:cwm23:

It always makes me laugh when so called fellow workers moan about other workers going on strike

The Tories are quite happy handing out tax credits for workers who get paid peanuts
Subsidising the fat cats who will not pay their workers a decent living wage

The right wing gutter press would have us believe that anyone who even thinks about going on strike must be worse than the devil = yawn

[Longweekend]

Since when has anybody had a guaranteed job for life, that's what the unions seem to think their members are entitled to!! wake up, nobody has that right....

[joebloggs]

He's keeping some poor family on the streets with a greater need for his council house

gWaPito your showing your caring side being concerned about poor families :biggrin:

where does bob's £50k a year in taxes go :cwm25: over the years the gov\council could have built a few social houses with that money :wink:

the mail would have a field day if Bob bought a mansion to live in :biggrin: he cant win :doh

[SimonH]

The thing that annoys me, and most others is that no matter what tax he pays he still takes home £91K a year but pays less than £8K in rent. Tube drivers get paid a starting wage of £46K and 43 days holiday, why are they striking........... because of the closure of ticket offices, why.......... because it's all automated, therefore staff in ticket offices are being paid to sit on their :action-smiley-081: all day. I pay over £400 a month for my other half to travel into London, but so far today it's taken here over 2 hours to do a 25 minute journey and she's now stuck at Paddington because the buses can't cope with the demand.

Bob Crow :cwm23::cwm23::cwm23: what a :censored:

[London_Manila]

Since when has anybody had a guaranteed job for life, that's what the unions seem to think their members are entitled to!! wake up, nobody has that right....

The Mayor of London stated that no ticket office would close if he won the election
He gets elected and then does the opposite
Such behavior should not go unchallenged !

[Longweekend]

The Mayor of London stated that no ticket office would close if he won the election
He gets elected and then does the opposite
Such behavior should not go unchallenged !
But do you consider putting hundreds of thousands of working people through a travelling nightmare a proper challenge to the Mayor of London?

[London_Manila]

The thing that annoys me, and most others is that no matter what tax he pays he still takes home £91K a year but pays less than £8K in rent. Tube drivers get paid a starting wage of £46K and 43 days holiday, why are they striking........... because of the closure of ticket offices, why.......... because it's all automated, therefore staff in ticket offices are being paid to sit on their :action-smiley-081: all day. I pay over £400 a month for my other half to travel into London, but so far today it's taken her over 2 hours to do a 25 minute journey and she's now stuck at Paddington because the buses can't cope with the demand.

Bob Crow :cwm23::cwm23::cwm23: what a :censored:

Bob Crow is doing a sterling job for his members :smile:

Maybe if Bob Crow represented you then you might end up with better pay and conditions as well

Blame Mayor Boris Johnson for his lies

[SimonH]

The mayor of London stated that no ticket office would close if he won the election
He gets elected and then does the opposite
Such behavior should not go unchallenged !


Are you seriously suggesting that part of our rail fare goes to paying people to sit doing nothing all day, this is the 21st Century where we don't need ticket offices.

[SimonH]

Bob Crow is doing a sterling job for his members :smile:

Maybe if Bob Crow represented you then you might end up with better pay and conditions as well

Blame mayor Boris Johnson for his lies


If I was sitting on my :action-smiley-081: all day doing :censored: all, I'd expect to kicked out on my ear or offered a position where I was made to do some work.
What I wouldn't expect is for the rest of the company to come out on strike because they think it's fine for them to subsidise me doing :censored: all.

[London_Manila]

But do you consider putting hundreds of thousands of working people through a travelling nightmare a proper challenge to the Mayor of London?

The members have voted and Bob is carrying out his mandate

Point the finger and Boris

[London_Manila]

If I was sitting on my :action-smiley-081: all day doing :censored: all, I'd expect to kicked out on my ear or offered a position where I was made to do some work.
What I wouldn't expect is for the rest of the company to come out on strike because they think it's fine for them to subsidise me doing :censored: all.

Oh dear, I don't really understand your work ethic of putting the boot in on my fellow workers

That's hardly unity :doh

[Longweekend]

I thought only 30% of the members voted to strike, that's not exactly democratic is it?

[SimonH]

The members have voted and Bob is carrying out his mandate

Point the finger and Boris

40% of them voted, out of which 77% voted to strike, therefore only 30% were in favour of a strike :cwm25:

[SimonH]

Oh dear, I don't really understand your work ethic of putting the boot in on my fellow workers

That's hardly unity :doh

The operative word being WORKERS :Erm:

[Dedworth]

The sort of job I could handle :biggrin:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/05/article-2552044-1B3575FC00000578-810_964x625.jpg

[Arthur Little]

The sort of job I could handle :biggrin:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/05/article-2552044-1B3575FC00000578-810_964x625.jpg

:laugher: ... nice one! But ...

[gWaPito]

Yes i am sure the soon to arrive Syrian refugees would love bob's house :wink:

Exactly :xxgrinning--00xx3: and what's wrong with that? :wink: :biggrin:

He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately

[Arthur Little]

... :icon_rolleyes: ... I can visualise this thread degenerating into yet ANOTHER "them and us" political slanging match! :xxsport-smiley-002:

So ... ca' canny, lads ... :please:! OK?

[gWaPito]

Oh are union leaders not allowed to take holidays now :action-smiley-081:

As bob informed the Daily Mail he booked this trip from an advert in their paper :icon_lol:
I agree..A 10k holiday for 2 is hardly a kings ransom..I spent half that amount on a week's jolly to Spain be it on Sun Sand and the other :biggrin:...when in Rome :icon_lol:

[gWaPito]

It always makes me laugh when so called fellow workers moan about other workers going on strike

The Tories are quite happy handing out tax credits for workers who get paid peanuts
Subsidising the fat cats who will not pay their workers a decent living wage

The right wing gutter press would have us believe that anyone who even thinks about going on strike must be worse than the devil = yawn

You're very astute LM :-) (I'm not being sarcastic, either) It's the 'fat cats' who run the country, dictating political agenda. Nothing new here :NoNo:...it happens the world over

[Dedworth]

Exactly :xxgrinning--00xx3: and what's wrong with that? :wink: :biggrin:

He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately


He'd have to cancel his weekly Bollinger delivery

[gWaPito]

He'd have to cancel his weekly Bollinger delivery

:laugher::icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

I thought only 30% of the members voted to strike, that's not exactly democratic is it?

Tories got 10,703,654 votes at the last Election
45,597,461 people had the right to vote

he won the election with only 23% of the total number of people who had the right to vote :wink:

[Dedworth]

Beach Bum Bob doesn't use ticket offices (interview with ITV)

You have to move with the times. Have you got an Oyster Card? I have one. Most people do. Do we need as many ticket offices as we have? - 'Well that’s the issue at the end of the day…Of course there’s new technology…but it’s how you implement that change.'

But you have an Oyster Card, yes? - 'Yes.'

Do you use it? - 'Yes.'

So you don’t go to the ticket office? - 'No. But if I was partially sighted I couldn’t get an Oyster Card. If I couldn’t speak English properly I couldn’t. Also, if I was disabled and I had problems getting an Oyster Card. You’ve got to look at the minorities of people.'

Let’s talk about justification for the strike. Only a third of all members voted for strike action. Can you justify millions of Londoners standing in the rain tonight? - 'I can justify that because we’ve had a secret ballot and our members can vote yes or no and we respect their wishes whether they vote yes or no.'

But shouldn’t the threshold be higher? - 'Why don’t we have a margin and a threshold for local councils or MPs that are elected? The Mayor for example was elected with only 27% of Londoners. Has he got the mandate to close booking offices down?'

There’s an argument to say the Underground is an essential service…therefore if it was, you’d have to provide a minimum level on strike days… - 'Well a lot of things are essential services. Everything’s essential. Don’t forget, the first people who started ban strikes were people like Hitler before the war…'

Everyone is entitled to a holiday but isn’t the timing of your recent holiday appalling? - 'Not really. The holiday was booked last March. Eleven months ago so what was I meant to do?'

A man on your wage could have cancelled it and booked another one? - 'What and lose the money?'

[SimonH]

Tories got 10,703,654 votes at the last election
45,597,461 people had the right to vote

he won the election with only 23% of the total number of people who had the right to vote:wink:

Amazing how statistics can be manipulated isn't it :biggrin: Are you sure you don't write the Daily Mail headlines with sensationalist stats like that :Erm:

Another way of putting it is that out of the all the registered voters less than 20% voted labour :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[SimonH]

Just a thought :Erm:

As Bob is all for saving jobs, increasing wages etc Why doesn't the government bring in a minimum rent for council and social housing, so therefore those who need it get it and then if you earn more than the national average wage you could be means tested and your rent could fall in line with the equivalent private rent for a similar sized property in the same area :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Good old Bob wouldn't object to his rent being doubled or trebled would he? :Erm:

[Dedworth]

Good old Bob wouldn't object to his rent being doubled or trebled would he? :Erm:

A fair minded bloke like Bolly Bob would raise a glass of champers to it :biggrin:

[London_Manila]

Exactly :xxgrinning--00xx3: and what's wrong with that? :wink: :biggrin:

He's on 145k, he can afford to rent privately

Peter Hendy Transport for London's big cheese made £652,000 last year :NoNo:

Boris Johnson only got 17% of the votes in the first round of voting in the London Mayor election

These are the last people who should be talking about pay rates and vote percentages

[London_Manila]

I thought only 30% of the members voted to strike, that's not exactly democratic is it?

76% of RMT members who voted voted for a strike

I dont know where you are getting your figures from !

[SimonH]

76% of RMT members who voted voted for a strike

I dont know where you are getting your figures from !

From the horse's mouth :biggrin:

Unite the Resistance home
London Underground workers vote by 77 percent for strikes
10 January 2014

Workers on London Underground have voted by 77 percent for strikes over ticket office closures and job cuts.



From RMT website:

Go here for more information

RMT logo













TO ALL RMT MEMBERS – LONDON UNDERGROUND



Dear Colleagues,



EVERY JOB MATTERS – DEFENDING JOBS ON LONDON UNDERGROUND



The ballot result has now been received from the independent scrutineer and is as follows: -



Are you prepared to take strike action?



Total Votes Cast 3356

Number Voting ‘Yes’ 2567

Number Voting ‘No’ 742

Spoilt Papers 47