Pregnant on a Visit Visa

[ssanjuan]

I met my boyfriend in Dubai and I got pregnant. It is against Dubai Law to get pregnant outside marriage and I will end up in jail if got caught.

Now I am here in UK on a visit visa, 26 weeks pregnant and my Visa is about to expire 1st week of May.

I applied online for my visit visa so we don't have any idea that I cannot apply for any other visa like fiance visa whilst in UK, which I only find out after visiting the Law Centre for advice.

I am due on 2nd of June and stuck at the moment. I am worried because I do not want to jeopardize the chance of bringing my 4 year old daughter here who is currently in the Philippines. :NoNo:

I will appreciate any advice from anyone.

[raynaputi]

The only thing I can advise you is to go back to the Philippines before your visa expires. That's the only legal thing you can do. You also can't get married in the UK while on a visit visa. Then, once you are back in the Philippines, apply a settlement visa (fiancee visa or spouse visa if you and your bf will get married in the Philippines) to stay here in the UK.

[joebloggs]

So what did the Law Centre tell you to do ?

How long did you state you were going to stay in the UK on your visit visa application ?

You know you're 26wks pregnant and the cut off for flying while pregnant is btw 32-36wks for most airlines, so you need to seek professional advice asap.

[ssanjuan]

We actually plan than one, however my pregnancy is really bad with altitude as I have shortness of breathing. Aside from that they want me to deliver the baby here and not in the Philippines.

[ssanjuan]

Hi Joe.

the law centre told us to leave the country before the visit visa expires and i cannot switch to any visa.

[joebloggs]

You know if you leave it too late to fly back and the baby is born here, you will probably have to pay the NHS fees, if you have a caesarian the cost of that could be a lot of money :cwm24:.

Remember on your visit visa application form, the questions about medical treatment, if you've not paid that could have a negative effect on getting a future visa until the money is paid..


If you wanted the baby born here you should have applied for the correct visa, either a medical visit visa or a fiancée visa.

If the father is British the child will be British, you should google 'Zambrano' and best interests of the children, thou I'm not sure you qualify :cwm25:

But get professional advice :wink:

[marksroomspain]

We actually plan than one, however my pregnancy is really bad with altitude as I have shortness of breathing. Aside from that they want me to deliver the baby here and not in the Philippines.

Please dont underestimate how serious it is to overstay on your visitors visa.

Take the advice of the Law Centre and return home before it expires as its not possible to switch from visitor to fiancee visa here in the UK.

Also, to add to what Joe said, is that if you do overstay your visa it could seriously jeopardise any future applications for settlement and incur a 10 year ban from entering the UK.

Just to confirm that one airline Ethiad does carry pregnant women up to the end of the 36th week of pregnancy but only with medical clearance and with a single uncomplicated pregnancy.

I don't mean to frighten you Ssanjuan, but this is the situation and further legal advice is what I think you should seek. Overall, I am just saying what I know from knowledge.

Any further questions - feel free to ask, and good luck...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

You need to book a flight back to the Phils as soon as possible.
This won't alter the fact that the baby will be British (once registered), but it will save you from one hell of a black hole of problems in the future.

Once back in the Phils, you may apply for a settlement visa, as previously pointed out.

DON'T take the advice of so-called immigration specialists here in the UK, or give them any money. :NoNo:

The rules are quite clear, and (unlike in the Philippines) there is no buying your way out of the situation.

Good luck. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[ssanjuan]

Thank you everyone for your advice and hopefully I'll be able to sort things out quickly. :doh

The fact is, I only made my visa application online, and wanting to leave Dubai asap, I wasn't able to get any advice.

[ssanjuan]

If the father is British the child will be British, you should google 'Zambrano' and best interests of the children, thou I'm not sure you qualify :cwm25:

but get professional advice :wink:

Thanks Joe, I am now googling about Zambrano though will definitely seek for legal advice...

Can't sleep now.

[tiger31]

My question is what will happen if doctors decide she can,t fly and has to have the baby here? This will put her into a whole new scenario because then the baby cannot be deported and no judge will be allowed to separate mother and baby. So the best solution hopefully will be to go back to Philippines if fit then apply for settlement visa bearing in mind this will also be expensive. This is going to be one very expensive babba that,s for sure.

[Jentobeharrison]

If she will be prohibited to ride a plane going back to Philippines, is there any country where she can just deliver the baby? I mean, countries where she doesn't need to ride a plane. She has lots of time to apply for visa to other countries though?

[joebloggs]

My question is what will happen if doctors decide she can,t fly and has to have the baby here? This will put her into a whole new scenario because then the baby cannot be deported and no judge will be allowed to separate mother and baby. So the best solution hopefully will be to go back to Philippines if fit then apply for settlement visa bearing in mind this will also be expensive. This is going to be one very expensive babba that,s for sure.

'Zambrano', I know it can be used by people outside the UK, but I can't remember if it can be used by someone already in the UK :Erm:

Sure she could try and hang on and try and stay because of best interest of the child, but it might not be the best way, that's why i said seek legal advice :wink:

Also the NHS might want the cost back and that could be expensive, also maybe problems with UKBA, I presume she didn't tell them in the additional info she was pregnant :cwm24:


Also the Law Centre has told her to go back, and that's probably the best advice if she wants it to be easy

[Terpe]

The Zambrano case could only be applied if the dependent child's only carer had no right to remain in the UK.
Since the husband is here and presumably with access to work and/or benefits then it's not a route that can be taken.
Technically 'Zambrano' can only come into play when the primary carer leaving UK would force the dependent British citizen (child) to also leave.

[bigmac]

The mind boggles with this situation. If the mum-to be-is told not to fly for medical reasons--and the baby is born here--what happens next?

Also--we aren't getting any input from the daddy--what's his viewpoint?

[Terpe]

.....also the law centre has told her to go back, and thats probably the best advice if she wants it to be easy

I'd have to agree, that's the best option.


The mind boggles with this situation. If the mum-to be-is told not to fly for medical reasons--and the baby is born here--what happens next?

Having the baby born here would present a number of serious immigration issues.
I'm not suggesting that extensive legal arguments could not be used to allow her to remain.....but the outcome would not result in any stable residence or settlement. Most likely some form of discretionary leave that could continue for say 10 years under constraints. I can't see any time when full ILR would be granted.

It's out of my experience so can't give any meaningful advice other than go home for the birth.

If it's medically dangerous to fly back to Philippines for the birth a certificate needs to be secured soonest and legal advice sought.

[tiger31]

The Zambrano case could only be applied if the dependent child's only carer had no right to remain in the UK.
Since the husband is here and presumably with access to work and/or benefits then it's not a route that can be taken.
Technically 'Zambrano' can only come into play when the primary carer leaving UK would force the dependent British citizen (child) to also leave.

Well the easy way round that is to say she and the baby,s father are no longer together so that route is,nt really airtight so having the baby here is an advantage if you ask me. The alternative is going to be go back and go through the process meaning a long time apart and lots of money to get back in, and I know the more they are loved up, the harder it will be to send her home.

[Terpe]

....Well the easy way round that is to say she and the baby,s father are no longer together so that route is,nt really airtight so having the baby here is an advantage if you ask me...

The regulation isn't that basic in detail and most of the potential 'loopholes' would be covered otherwise 000's would be following.

Just my simplistic explanation

[ssanjuan]

The baby's daddy and his family doesn't want me to leave the country and want to have the baby here and have bought stuff for the baby. They told me to just leave it at the moment and we'll sort it out once the baby's here.

Im spending time reading UKBA website and I know my only option is to go back home.

I dont know how to tell them. I'm scared and I know it would be hard for them to put themselves on my shoe. But I also dont want to put myself in these situation cause in the end I am only jeopardizing myself alone.

Staying here illegally and be banned 10 years to apply for any other visa plus being receiving care from NHS then later on receive a massive bills for everything.

I just dont know what to do and how to tell them.

[rani]

I'm afraid that you really have to talk to them asap. If you don't, you're the one who loses in the end :cwm25:

[grahamw48]

With all due respect, the 'daddy's' family are being naive and selfish.

You need to book a flight back to the Phils ASAP !

[Terpe]

....You need to book a flight back to the Phils ASAP !

Yes agreed.

Don't ever think that UKBA are a compassionate and caring organisation.......they are not.
Many families get split up regularly.

The future for you is not at all secure if you remain her as an illegal.
Don't jeopardise future settlement family life.....follow the laws.

[tiger31]

Its ok for all us chaps to give advice to go home, but if you were the father to be i,m sure you would take a rather different view as he is possibly not going to see his child or g,f for a long time. If it was me i,d fight tooth and nail to stay in the country and fight the system as we all agree when it comes to partners from outside the e.u they are treated badly compared to e,u countries who can come and go and have babies at no cost having paid no contribution whatsoever.

[grahamw48]

Fair comment, but if had been me, I think I'd have been more careful about getting a girl pregnant in a country where the result could have been jail for her. :NoNo:

There is no way round this tiger, and I think that to give the lady false hope will not be doing her any favours.

If the father has anything about him, he'll have no problems in sorting out a good future for his child, without causing a lot of unnecessary stress to an expectant mother, and more than likely preventing her from ever being able to legally reside here.

[raynaputi]

Its ok for all us chaps to give advice to go home, but if you were the father to be i,m sure you would take a rather different view as he is possibly not going to see his child or g,f for a long time. If it was me i,d fight tooth and nail to stay in the country and fight the system as we all agree when it comes to partners from outside the e.u they are treated badly compared to e,u countries who can come and go and have babies at no cost having paid no contribution whatsoever.



This forum will never advice to do stuff illegally. She must do the legal way to not get any further headache from this country's government. It'll do her good if she do it the proper & legal way.

[tiger31]

This forum will never advice to do stuff illegally. She must do the legal way to not get any further headache from this country's government. It'll do her good if she do it the proper & legal way.

If the doctor decides she,s not fit to fly then the law would be on her side, so from my point of view I hope that this will be the case and they get to live a happy life together right, we all make mistakes in our lives. And on the other side of the fence mr choudry our islamic buddy who continues to spout his hatred and venom about killing non believers and wanting sharia law is allowed to stay in this country :cwm23:

[grahamw48]

My ex-wife travelled on the plane when she was 7 months pregnant, no probs. I'm pretty sure of that. :smile:

[raynaputi]

if the doctor decides shes not fit to fly then the law would be on her side ,so from my point of view I hope that this will be the case and they get to live a happy life together right ,we all make mistakes in our lives .And on the other side of the fence mr choudry our islamic buddy who continues to spout his hatred and venom about killing non believers and wanting sharia law is allowed to stay in this country :cwm23:

The forum still stands to advice people on doing things the legal way. The forum is not here to do the opposite.

[SimonH]

This must be a truly horrible situation to be in, my sympathies about our rules and regulations and my congratulations on your up coming new addition to the family.
Do you get on well with your doctor? You must have had 2 scans by now, and are due for your third in a few weeks. I'd be asking your doctors advise as well as a solicitor.
Your father to be's family are burying they head in the sand and hoping the immigration problem will go away, the longer they keep their heads buried the bigger the problem will get. As with all things in life, if there's a problem then tackle head on before it gets out of control.
I wish you all the best :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[ssanjuan]

Everyone's view was great and I am taking everything into consideration.


Its ok for all us chaps to give advice to go home ,but if you were the father to be i,m sure you would take a rather different view as he is possibly not going to see his child or g,f for a long time .If it was me i,d fight tooth and nail to stay in the country and fight the system as we all agree when it comes to partners from outside the e.u they are treated badly compared to e,u countries who can come and go and have babies at no cost having paid no contribution what so ever .

That's right tiger it is really hard for us specially for him to understand everything 'cause my boyfriend is in his early 20 and don't wanna be bothered by the immigration rules and regulations you guys have here.

There's a chance of a long time apart for us if I go back home 'cause he doesn't meet the financial requirement for me to apply a fiance visa. He jut recently started working and the required amount is way too high.

I am very glad though with the support we're getting from his parent. I am well loved and so grateful to be with the family where I was treated as their own.

[ssanjuan]

This must be a truly horrible situation to be in, my sympathies about our rules and regulations and my congratulations on your up coming new addition to the family.
Do you get on well with your doctor? You must have had 2 scans by now, and are due for your third in a few weeks. I'd be asking your doctors advise as well as a solicitor.
Your father to be's family are burying they head in the sand and hoping the immigration problem will go away, the longer they keep their heads buried the bigger the problem will get. As with all things in life, if there's a problem then tackle head on before it gets out of control.
I wish you all the best :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks Simon,

Midwife was really nice though of course it's not their responsibility to inform me that I need to pay in the end :Cuckoo:
I'm done with my 2nd scan few weeks back then will have my glucose tolerance test next week.

You're right they are furious with the fact how immigration works but I think the best way out is to avoid issues is to follow the law. :doh :cwm3:

[tiger31]

Everyone's view was great and I am taking everything into consideration.

That's right tiger it is really hard for us specially for him to understand everything 'cause my boyfriend is on his early 20 and don't wanna be bother by the immigration rules and regulations you guys have here.

There's a chance of a long time apart for us if I go back home 'cause he doesn't meet the financial requirement for me to apply a fiance visa. He jut recently started working and the required amount I way too high.

I am very glad though with the support we're getting from his parent. I am well loved and so grateful to be with the family where I was treated as their own.

Well, he will have to confront Immigration Rules at some point That,s why you must seek an expert immigration lawyer to look at all the avenues. They may find a loophole in the law, it,s not about advising to break the laws it,s about finding a legal loophole if there is one that,s all i,m going to say. It,s even more desperate situation now that you mentioned finances won,t qualify you. Maybe your boyfriend,s family will help you financially to pay for a lawyer because it sounds like they don,t want you to leave, so ask them for help.

[ssanjuan]

With all due respect, the 'daddy's' family are being naive and selfish.

You need to book a flight back to the Phils ASAP !

They are not being selfish, they always asked me what I want to do and and will always respect my decision. But it's really hard for me to decide because it is not easy being pregnant - especially being away from someone you expect to be with you in the birthing room.

And I understand that going back home is the only option I've got.

[ssanjuan]

Well, he will have to confront Immigration Rules at some point. That,s why you must seek an expert immigration lawyer to look at all the avenues. They may find a loophole in the law its not about advising to break the laws its about finding a legal loophole if there is one that,s all I,m going to say. It,s even more desperate situation now that you mentioned finances won,t qualify you. Maybe your boyfriend,s family will help you financially to pay for a lawyer because it sounds like they don,t want you to leave, so ask them for help.

My boyfriend's mum sent an email to an MP to seek help and we have been given a contact for an immigration solicitor. But we haven't taken that action yet, and now I know we have to get it touch with the solicitor soon. :smile:

[jane2009]

Sorry to learn about your situation! You came here on a visit visa and, as far I know, visit visa holders ain't entitled to use the NHS. If you do, you start breaking the law! And that would affect your future visa application!

Just my opinion! :NoNo:

[ssanjuan]

Just an update.

I gave birth last 4th of June to a beautiful baby girl.

Home Office granted me an extension of my visit visa last July and I used the form FLR (O) to apply. The visit visa is valid until 1st of September 2014, that was for £601. Tomorrow I will be going to the Post Office for another Biometrics for my application of Leave to remain as a parent with the form FLR (FP) also called as a family visa which is another £601. It will allow me to stay in the UK, work legally and bring my daughter as soon as possible.

The website www.gov.uk was great including my faith.

:smile::smile::smile:

[joebloggs]

Just an update.

I gave birth last 4th of June to a beautiful baby girl.

Home Office granted me an extension of my visit visa last July and I used the form FLR (O) to apply. The visit visa is valid until 1st of September 2014, that was for £601. Tomorrow I will be going to the post office for another Biometrics for my application of Leave to remain as a parent with the form FLR (FP) also called as a family visa which is another £601. It will allow me to stay in the UK, work legally and bring my daughter as soon as possible.

The website www.gov.uk was great including my faith.

:smile::smile::smile:

Good you're both ok :xxgrinning--00xx3: and you're sorting your visa out..

When was the last time you lived with your daughter and who is taking care of her now?? Does the bio father still have contact?

Did you have to pay NHS fees? Reason is, I just saw this link today:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/help-for-nhs-to-recover-costs-of-care-from-visitors-and-migrants

[grahamw48]

ssanjuan...thanks for getting back to us on this, congrats on the birth of your baby girl, and good luck to you. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[tiger31]

I am pleased that you stayed and hope the outcome will be in your favour. If you had taken some of the others' advice on here you would have been separated for a long, long time!

Family immigration rules need to be changed to help people like yourselves.

At least you got out of that head-choppin' country safely.

[Michael Parnham]

Just an update.

I gave birth last 4th of June to a beautiful baby girl.

Home Office granted me an extension of my visit visa last July and I used the form FLR (O) to apply. The visit visa is valid until 1st of September 2014, that was for £601. Tomorrow I will be going to the Post Office for another Biometrics for my application of Leave to remain as a parent with the form FLR (FP) also called as a family visa which is another £601. It will allow me to stay in the UK, work legally and bring my daughter as soon as possible.

The website www.gov.uk was great including my faith.

:smile::smile::smile:

Congratulations on the birth of your Daughter and good luck for the future! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

I am pleased that you stayed and hope the outcome will be in your favour. If you had taken some of the others' advice on here you would have been separated for a long, long time!

Family immigration rules need to be changed to help people like yourselves.

At least you got out of that head-choppin' country safely.

Bit harsh mate.

Advice was asked on an internet forum, and replies given in good faith based on the facts presented.

The lady did the obvious and sensible thing by also inquiring of the actual authorities, either directly or through an intermediary. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

If only more people did that straightaway instead of asking people down the pub etc...

[Arthur Little]

Congratulations from me too! :xxgrinning--00xx3: Pleased to learn all worked out satisfactorily for you in the end, and appreciate the update on your progress ... :thankyou:

[raynaputi]

Bit harsh mate.

Advice was asked on an internet forum, and replies given in good faith based on the facts presented.

The lady did the obvious and sensible thing by also inquiring of the actual authorities, either directly or through an intermediary. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

If only more people did that straightaway instead of asking people down the pub etc...

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Rep on your way. :biggrin:

[grahamw48]

Mr. Sensible head on at the moment (it's early :icon_lol:). :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

I am pleased that you stayed and hope the outcome will be in your favour. If you had taken some of the others' advice on here you would have been separated for a long, long time!

Family immigration rules need to be changed to help people like yourselves.

At least you got out of that head-choppin' country safely.

Bit harsh mate.

Advice was asked on an internet forum, and replies given in good faith based on the facts presented.

The lady did the obvious and sensible thing by also inquiring of the actual authorities, either directly or through an intermediary. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

If only more people did that straightaway instead of asking people down the pub etc...

The right advice is always go by the rules. This way is by no means straightforward. As a fiancée or spouse, the cost in visas is £601 for the FLR(O) - which was only valid for a few months - THEN £601 for the FLR(FP) which is valid for 2.5 yrs.

Also the cost of an immigration lawyer, also possible concerns about the NHS fees and coming on a VV while she was pregnant. How long she stated on her visit visa application she intended to stay for? All this will be probably be taken into consideration when they consider her FLR(FP) application.

But, on the plus side, her child is a British citizen so that will definitely go in her favour. :wink:

[Terpe]

the right advice is always go by the rules, this way is by no means straightforward as a fiancée or spouse visa...............But on the plus side her child is a British citizen so that will definitely go in her favour :wink:

Yes, always follow the rules.
And always check and double any advice shared in forums by reviewing the rules and all links provided.

It's too serious to follow 'in my opinion' advice.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome of this.

FLR(FP) is completely new.

Congrats on the birth of your baby girl

Good luck with your FLR(FP) process.

If you have the time please do share the experience

[tiger31]

I just wonder how many of you in the same position would have sent your pregnant wife back to the Philippines - rules or no rules? Due to the harsh, unfair income rules, it may have been a long time for a reunion. The only way these rules will be changed is if people stand up and fight for equality and fairness to all. If that had been me, she would,nt be going anywhere without a fight.

Rant over.

[grahamw48]

I agree mate.

I certainly would have put up a fight too. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[tiger31]

I agree mate.

I certainly would have put up a fight too. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Secretly, if we are all real men, we all would. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[joebloggs]

I just wonder how many of you in the same position would have sent your pregnant wife back to the Philippines - rules or no rules? Due to the harsh, unfair income rules, it may have been a long time for a reunion. The only way these rules will be changed, is if people stand up and fight for equality and fairness to all. If that had been me, she would,nt be going anywhere without a fight.

Rant over.

I don't think they are married :cwm25:

Anyway, some people in the past have managed to get their partner here on a visit visa and have tried to stay after the visa had expired. A child would make a big difference thou, but even so, would you really want the stress of wondering each day if your wife would be served with a deportation notice?

Imagine as months and even years, yes years, go by, what effect this would have mentally and physically on you both, as your application is finally refused. You appeal, your appeal is refused - and not to mention the cost - :NoNo: and your wife can't risk leaving the country.

Of course, some people will gain from 'frustrating' immigration rules, but I'm sure most would have found it less stressful - and cheaper - to have applied for the right visa, allowing them restful sleep at night :wink:

[raynaputi]

I just wonder how many of you in the same position would have sent your pregnant wife back to the Philippines - rules or no rules? Due to the harsh, unfair income rules, it may have been a long time for a reunion. The only way these rules will be changed is, if people stand up and fight for equality and fairness to all. If that had been me, she would,nt be going anywhere without a fight.

Rant over.

The forum's stance is to always follow the rules. We would never advise going against the rules no matter what. If there are other legal ways to do it, then it's okay to give that option. I hope all the members here can understand that.

In this woman's case, the UKVI gave her an option to extend her current visit visa - costing her an extra £601 - lasting only until 1st September 2014 because of her current situation. This is on top of all the visa applications she needs to apply. And like what Joe said, it may or may not result in a discretion in the future.

If you or the others would advise any other person here going against the rules, you're better not giving any advice at all. Most of you here complain about illegal immigrants, so why would you tell another person here to go against what the rules say and have more problems in the future? The good thing with this lady is she managed to get a visit visa extension and was able to give birth.

To Ssanjuan: Have you already taken an English test? I believe it's a requirement in your application for FLR(FP) as a Parent if you are taking the 5 year route. The 10 year route doesn't require it though.

[tiger31]

rayna keith would not have put you on that plane either if that was you .nobody is saying break the immigration laws I am saying fight them ,its better to fight them in the u.k rather than in the philippines don,t you agree ?.If you got sent back keith would be able to get you back again due to his war pension exception from income rules correct ? 2 thirds of british people don,t even earn 18,600 a year which shows you how unfair the system is .and yes you are correct about our complaining about ileagle immigrants but the ones that arrive on the back of lorries with no papers and no back ground checks etc etc are the target of our complaints .my gripe is just because we marry someone outside the E.U that we are unfairly targeted .

[raynaputi]

I wouldn't know what Keith would do. Although Keith has always followed the rules when it comes to matters like these, i.e. visas, his benefits, war pension, etc. But our stand is to always follow the rules. We would never plan on doing things outside the current rules or allow ourselves to be in a risky situation when we both know it may cause problems in the future. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[ssanjuan]

Good you're both ok :xxgrinning--00xx3: and you're sorting your visa out..

When was the last time you lived with your daughter and who is taking care of her now?? Does the bio father still have contact?

Did you have to pay NHS fees? Reason is, I just saw this link today:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/help-for-nhs-to-recover-costs-of-care-from-visitors-and-migrants

Thank you so much.

It was two years ago that I have lived with my daughter in the Philippines, she is currently taken care of by my parents. I visited her last September. Her bio father is visiting her once in 4 months probably but never received any support from him.

We didn't pay anything from NHS. Even after birth I went to a GP after a week for a check-up due to a local infection we always tells them that I just need to be check and it's fine it they're going to charge me. They always tells us that they will just let us know if we need to pay but never receive any bill until now.

I appreciate the link it will be helpful to others too. :)

[ssanjuan]

Yes I did sent my English Test Certificate with all the required documents for FLR (FP).

[joebloggs]

i take it the father is named on her birth certificate ?
you need to prove you have 'sole responsibility' , 2 yrs is a long time to be apart,but some people have lived apart more than that and still got the child a visa.

[ssanjuan]

Thank you so much Tiger.

The Visa is really costly however we manage to get a free advice from a solicitor referred to us by an MP. The solicitor initially told us that FLR (O) can be swap without a fee for FLR (FP) after giving birth but we're not able to get back to him before sending the latter application.

I will get back with you guys once I have the result.

Thanks everyone.

[ssanjuan]

i take it the father is named on her birth certificate ?
you need to prove you have 'sole responsibility' , 2 yrs is a long time to be apart,but some people have lived apart more than that and still got the child a visa.

Indeed joeblogg, I just sent an email to the Philippines Consulate requesting procedures and documentation needed for my daughter since she's illegitimate but acknowledge by her father.

It's quite heartbreaking but in due time everything will be okay. I am positive and will not be breaking any rules.

Thank you. :)

[joebloggs]

Indeed joeblogg, I just sent an email to the Philippines Consulate requesting procedures and documentation needed for my daughter since she's illegitimate but acknowledge by her father.

It's quite heartbreaking but in due time everything will be okay. I am positive and will not be breaking any rules.

Thank you. :)

sole responsibility is not the same as sole custody, you need to search on here or google what 'sole responsibility' is.

your daughter having contact with her bio father and you being away for 2 years could cause you problems with proving you have 'sole responsibility' so make sure you get as much evidence to show you have 'sole responsibility' and not your parents or her bio father.