Do or Die match

[Jentobeharrison]

I know that I would really get some comments that I wouldn't want to hear, some might judge my fiance but I am just really alone thinking about this thing, I cannot tell this to my family and someone who knows me personally. But I will not be biased and will listen to everything you might say.

I am in a relationship with my British fiance for a year and 1 month, he did lots of sacrifices specifically he rented out his apartment for a year and went back to his mum's house just to save, and be able to meet me, not just once but twice. He sacrificed his social life for me and we're both waiting for us to be together.

Fiancee visa is risky, that's what we are telling to each other before, personally I didn't like it and we did not want to lose that big amount of money so we tried visitor visa and we talked about breaking up if my marriage visa will be refused. Well it was refused, after all the stress and hard times, it was still refused, we were really frustrated, I thought it will be our end.

He decided to take the risk, and he said what he had saved is for us, so he will use all of it and do everything now for this fiancee visa, but since he went back to his apartment he won't be able to save now, no more other income aside from his monthly salary but it won't be enough anymore as he will be paying monthly a lot now.

So this fiancee visa is a do or die match for our relationship, if we fail, we have no choice but to give up as he cannot wait for years/months again. It is quite sad thinking that if it happens, I won't be able to see, touch and be with the man I love more than anyone here in the world. November will be our last meeting then which is very painful.

I hope you understand why I always ask questions about everything in my visa application, that's the only part I can do to save our relationship.

[joebloggs]

he did lots of sacrifices specifically he rented out his apartment for a year and went back to his mums house just to save, and be able to meet me, not just once but twice. He sacrificed his social life for me and we're both waiting for us to be together.



they're not sacrifices, he got something out of it, he met you :biggrin:

[rani]

Its really sad reading this... Just too bad that a real couple couldn't be together because of the rules... Lets hope for the best!

And, correct me if I'm wrong in understanding that the UKVI is also reviewing the existing financial requirements. Fingers crossed!

Wishing you all the best Jen :Wave:

[grahamw48]

Good luck to you both. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

More 'sacrifices' to come, but that's what having a mature relationship is all about...especially a long distance one. :smile:

[Jentobeharrison]

Its really sad reading this... Just too bad that a real couple couldn't be together because of the rules... Lets hope for the best!

And, correct me if I'm wrong in understanding that the UKVI is also reviewing the existing financial requirements. Fingers crossed!

Wishing you all the best Jen :Wave:

Hello Rani, May I know what did you mean about "existing financial requirements"?

[Jentobeharrison]

Hahaha. It is really difficult guys, I have been pre-occupied for months unintentionally. Making me a life-less person to be honest. I am just really wishing that all of these will turn out well

[chino]

Have faith... I am sure everything will be ok

[bigmac]

I am in a relationship with my British fiance for a year and 1 month,

to be fair--in britain many couples go years before they get married--especially if they are saving up for a lavish wedding--or a deposit on their first home. it seems a bit odd to write off a relationship after only 13 months. just what is the hurry--?

[gWaPito]

they're not sacrifices, he got something out of it, he met you :biggrin:

Exactly. ..they're not sacrifices. ..They should be done without a heavy heart. :NoNo: Much more testing times ahead. .like living together :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[marksroomspain]

Hello Rani, May I know what did you mean about "existing financial requirements"?

Hiya Jen,

Rani means that the financial requirements have been reviewed by the british courts and appeal judges will be releasing there judgment in the next couple of weeks regarding a possible change in having a lower income threshold.

Don't anybody build hopes on this as it could be possibly long drawn out.

Getting back to your thread Jen as I have said before please please have faith in this fiance visa and never give up hope.

If you two are meant to be together then it will happen and if you love each other as much as I think you do then you will be together no questions asked, you will find a way.

Believe me I had so many doubts when me and Jem were going through all this visa stuff, it was her who had the faith to say "Mark everything will work out, be strong and believe, we will find the right path" and we did and we have been together in the UK 15 months with our little boy at nearly 14 months old.

So Jen please always believe and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

God bless sweetheart...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jentobeharrison]

I am in a relationship with my British fiance for a year and 1 month,

to be fair--in britain many couples go years before they get married--especially if they are saving up for a lavish wedding--or a deposit on their first home. it seems a bit odd to write off a relationship after only 13 months. just what is the hurry--?

It is not practical to wait especially in a long distance relationship, my fiance is not a millionaire to always travel here to see me. I am unsure who would fully understand what he is going through living alone. Why wait if we can start doing the right things to be together right? It is not being in a hurry, as my fiance went back to his apartment, he wont be able to save a lot and he will be starting paying big amount of expenses in June. I love him and I miss him so bad, both of us are living miserably being apart. It is not the quantity you know, it is the quality, there are couple who are in long term relationships but they turned out having miserable life. If you have a strong personality and can wait a long time for you girlfriend, then you will never understand my fiance's feelings.

[Jentobeharrison]

Hiya Jen,

Rani means that the financial requirements have been reviewed by the british courts and appeal judges will be releasing there judgment in the next couple of weeks regarding a possible change in having a lower income threshold.

Don't anybody build hopes on this as it could be possibly long drawn out.

Getting back to your thread Jen as I have said before please please have faith in this fiance visa and never give up hope.

If you two are meant to be together then it will happen and if you love each other as much as I think you do then you will be together no questions asked, you will find a way.

Believe me I had so many doubts when me and Jem were going through all this visa stuff, it was her who had the faith to say "Mark everything will work out, be strong and believe, we will find the right path" and we did and we have been together in the UK 15 months with our little boy at nearly 14 months old.

So Jen please always believe and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

God bless sweetheart...:xxgrinning--00xx3:


I will defo look back on this Mark once I received the result, I will be submitting my documents on Tuesday, I am just really into this now and want to be so in detail to avoid mistakes again or else I will lose my boyfriend. Thats the worst thing that can happen to me for my whole life.

[jake]

Good luck with your application.

Why would you lose your fiance if the application fails :Erm: He can always come to the Philippines to get married.

[Jentobeharrison]

Good luck with your application.

Why would you lose your fiance if the application fails :Erm: He can always come to the Philippines to get married.

Aww you're not reading my post. hahaha.

[Terpe]

Aww you're not reading my post. hahaha.

Don't lose hope and motivation....focus on the application in hand.
If all fails you can both follow a step-by step approach in get wed in Philippines during a 14 day period.....it's all been done before.

[Jentobeharrison]

Don't lose hope and motivation....focus on the application in hand.
If all fails you can both follow a step-by step approach in get wed in Philippines during a 14 day period.....it's all been done before.

Hi terpe I've sent you a private message :)

[fred]

Hi terpe I've sent you a private message :)

I may well be wrong but from memory, Terpe has disabled his Private messages.

I`m sure he will clarify one way or the other.

[gWaPito]

Its really sad reading this... Just too bad that a real couple couldn't be together because of the rules... Lets hope for the best!

And, correct me if I'm wrong in understanding that the UKVI is also reviewing the existing financial requirements. Fingers crossed!

Wishing you all the best Jen :Wave:

This could actually backfire on many more applicants. Unlike in the old rules, disposable income is not taken into consideration. As it stands the sponsor can have a top line of £18500 with most of that going on mortgages credit cards etc and still get his/her partner to the UK...........yet another sponsor could be on £18499 with no debt and yet be refused.

I advise anyone thinking about handing a settlement Visa app who's finances are on the limit, get your applications in asap

Jen, you worry too much :cwm25:...your man earns more than enough to get you here on the rules as they currently stand. Forget about his outgoing and what have you, It doesn't matter where your Settlement Visa app is concerned...you can worry to your heart's content about that when you are here :smile:. Follow the positive advice you've had on here. You won't have a problem

[Terpe]

Hi terpe I've sent you a private message :)

Jen, Fred is correct......my PM facility is disabled....means I cannot receive PM's
Sorry

[Terpe]

Its really sad reading this... Just too bad that a real couple couldn't be together because of the rules... Lets hope for the best!

And, correct me if I'm wrong in understanding that the UKVI is also reviewing the existing financial requirements. Fingers crossed!

Wishing you all the best Jen :Wave:

Yes rani, the courts were to give a decision this month.......it appears to be delayed for a couple of months.
The courts suggested £13000 but the government stuck it's heels in. If (a big if) there's agreement the best that could be hoped for would likely be a half-way compromise of say £15500

The government would ideally like to increase the limit.

As you say fingers crossed.
There are hundreds of applications currently 'on hold' with UKVI pending the final outcome from the courts simply due to not meeting the Financial Requirement in some form or other

[Jentobeharrison]

Yes rani, the courts were to give a decision this month.......it appears to be delayed for a couple of months.
The courts suggested £13000 but the government stuck it's heels in. If (a big if) there's agreement the best that could be hoped for would likely be a half-way compromise of say £15500

The government would ideally like to increase the limit.

As you say fingers crossed.
There are hundreds of applications currently 'on hold' with UKVI pending the final outcome from the courts simply due to not meeting the Financial Requirement in some form or other

If that will happen, I prorably think that they will add some requirements again. Yay. I need to submit my application asap I guess,

btw terpe, here is the link to my questions.


http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/51492-VAF4A-and-Appendix-2-form-questions

[Jentobeharrison]

This could actually backfire on many more applicants. Unlike in the old rules, disposable income is not taken into consideration. As it stands the sponsor can have a top line of £18500 with most of that going on mortgages credit cards etc and still get his/her partner to the UK...........yet another sponsor could be on £18499 with no debt and yet be refused.

I advise anyone thinking about handing a settlement Visa app who's finances are on the limit, get your applications in asap

Jen, you worry too much :cwm25:...your man earns more than enough to get you here on the rules as they currently stand. Forget about his outgoing and what have you, It doesn't matter where your Settlement Visa app is concerned...you can worry to your heart's content about that when you are here :smile:. Follow the positive advice you've had on here. You won't have a problem

Thank you for giving me hopes hihihi. I worry too much despite of tons of documents I have on my hand now

[Jentobeharrison]

Question, my boyfriend forgot to include his January 2014 payslip to his parcel, but he sent me an email of it, since his payslip is now online, is it fine to print it here? It is not practical to spend 30 GBP for a piece of paper.

[rani]

Question, my boyfriend forgot to include his January 2014 payslip to his parcel, but he sent me an email of it, since his payslip is now online, is it fine to print it here? It is not practical to spend 30 GBP for a piece of paper.

Jen, the documents to be submitted should be original. Do you already have an appointment? If none, i think its best for your fiance to send the paper by uk mail (it will take two weeks), so hopefully it will be at your hands before your appointment :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[jake]

Aww you're not reading my post. hahaha.

I have read all your posts.

[Jentobeharrison]

Jen, the documents to be submitted should be original. Do you already have an appointment? If none, i think its best for your fiance to send the paper by uk mail (it will take two weeks), so hopefully it will be at your hands before your appointment :xxgrinning--00xx3:

for real? we actually all his payslips are generated online so because all employees there just print it out, how about this? oh no. :(

[gWaPito]

Jen, the documents to be submitted should be original. Do you already have an appointment? If none, i think its best for your fiance to send the paper by uk mail (it will take two weeks), so hopefully it will be at your hands before your appointment :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Llke Jen's bf, my payslips are online too, no paper versions. My photocopies were accepted. I remember getting my bank statements stamped and signed. His wage payments will correspond on those statements.

You can get post to the Philippines in a few day if you use a courier service.

[Jentobeharrison]

Llke Jen's bf, my payslips are online too, no paper versions. My photocopies were accepted. I remember getting my bank statements stamped and signed. His wage payments will correspond on those statements.

You can get post to the Philippines in a few day if you use a courier service.

He sent it to me from his email and print it out tho same format but different how it was printed. It's not practical sending a paper via dhl , he already sent two dhl parcels as he forgot two papers now it's third parcel if what I printed is not ok to submit :(

[gWaPito]

Doesnt matter Jen....Photocopy is OK...you got the certified (stamped and signed) bank statements...they will show his wages.

[Terpe]

He sent it to me from his email and print it out tho same format but different how it was printed. It's not practical sending a paper via dhl , he already sent two dhl parcels as he forgot two papers now it's third parcel if what I printed is not ok to submit :(

Jen,
Prior to the '9 July changes' a number of our members managed to succeed with their visa applications using just scanned/photocopies of many documents.
Some folks have managed to succeed recently using scanned/photocopy images.

It's entirely your personal decision and risk.

UKVI still maintain that
All documents must be the ORIGINALS unless otherwise stated.

To follow the rules without risk you should make sure that any online document submitted is certified by the issuing authority.
For payslips that would be the issuing employer and for bank statements a relevant bank official.

The guidelines under Section FM 1.7 state that:-

Bank statements must be on official bank stationery. Alternatively electronic bank statements can also be accepted for all bank accounts (the account itself does not have to be exclusively online) as long as they are either accompanied by a letter from the bank on its headed stationery confirming that the documents are authentic or which bear the official stamp of the issuing bank on every page.

...........Payslips must be original formal payslips issued by the employer and showing the employer’s name, or be accompanied by a letter from the employer, on their headed paper and signed by a senior official confirming they are authentic.

My personal advice is to always minimise risks, however it's your personal choice

[Dedworth]

he forgot two papers now it's third parcel if what I printed is not ok to submit :(


That's a bit sloppy over something as important as this :Erm:

[sars_notd_virus]

Good luck with your application.

Why would you lose your fiance if the application fails :Erm: He can always come to the Philippines to get married.


Aww you're not reading my post. hahaha.
Hi Jen,
Jake is right on his post ....why not plan it carefully than lose lots of money, get as much info as you can make sure you've got accurate accommodation /funds/ financial stability/ communication /proof of relationship /meeting and pictures its all been said on here before .
do a bit of research and save lots of money. there's always plenty of willing members to give as much accurate information on this forum.
good luck

p.s.
do not send photocopies when it says ''originals'' in the requirements.
if your fiance is coming to visit you again let him bring all the needed documents to save sending it through post or DHL.

[Jentobeharrison]

Hi Jen,
Jake is right on his post ....why not plan it carefully than lose lots of money, get as much info as you can make sure you've got accurate accommodation /funds/ financial stability/ communication /proof of relationship /meeting and pictures its all been said on here before .
do a bit of research and save lots of money. there's always plenty of willing members to give as much accurate information on this forum.
good luck


We had a very concrete plan in this, just that we cannot help being stressed and forget something's, (even thought we have checked the list before he sent the documents) lol. About the January payslip, he thought that I only need February as I have his payslips here when we applied for marriage visa last January, however I don't have the January. Now I am just waiting for the next parcels, he did send it than to take the risk and be declined. I've just sorted out all the documents and we will be good. Gonna answer my form tomorrow and will try to book and submit my documents on Tuesday next week.

I have questions about vaf4a form and appendix 2, it's under help and advice section. Hope you guys can help me with some of the questions I'm confused about. And just to clarify, that's the only forms I have to submit right? For fiancée visa? VAF4A and appendix 2?

Thank you to all the people who are extending their hands to help me and almost gave me step by step processes, decline or successful, I owe you big :)

[Jentobeharrison]

Hi terpe, yeah my fiancé just sent the missing payslip today via dhl. I know it's a silly step but we had no choice, better to spend almost £90 for those than got declined and lost almost £900.

[raynaputi]

We had a very concrete plan in this, just that we cannot help being stressed and forget something's, (even thought we have checked the list before he sent the documents) lol. About the January payslip, he thought that I only need February as I have his payslips here when we applied for marriage visa last January, however I don't have the January. Now I am just waiting for the next parcels, he did send it than to take the risk and be declined. I've just sorted out all the documents and we will be good. Gonna answer my form tomorrow and will try to book and submit my documents on Tuesday next week.

I have questions about vaf4a form and appendix 2, it's under help and advice section. Hope you guys can help me with some of the questions I'm confused about. And just to clarify, that's the only forms I have to submit right? For fiancée visa? VAF4A and appendix 2?

Thank you to all the people who are extending their hands to help me and almost gave me step by step processes, decline or successful, I owe you big :)

I've replied to the questions after you posted it. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jentobeharrison]

I've replied to the questions after you posted it. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Hi rayna, yup! It was a big help, already noted it hihi. Some parts left me confused still. Yay

[gWaPito]

His wage payment details would correspond with what's on his certified bank statements.

You can only give original documents if you have the original documents.

In my case, all my wage slips were online photocopies. Didn't have any issues...Both a fiancee and a spouse Visa were successfully obtained for 2 girls who are now British subjects, using photocopied, uncertified, online wage slips.

My wage payments come from India. Any discrepancies in my payments we have to email. ...there's no one who's physically on hand...only clerks acting as middlemen.

I do understand what you are saying though, leave nothing to chance :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I'm only passing on what I did :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Anyway. ..there's too much of a song and dance being made out of this.

[marksroomspain]

Thanks for the rep whoever it was much appreciated...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

Thanks for the rep whoever it was much appreciated...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I had one from this thread as well. ...'thank you' :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jentobeharrison]

It's because I just knew how to give reputation comment Hihihi. So I went back to my threads and give you guys what you totally deserve :)

[marksroomspain]

You're a Diamond Jen and your soon to be hubby is a very lucky guy...:wink::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[gWaPito]

You"re a Diamond Jen and your soon to be hubby is a very lucky guy...:wink::xxgrinning--00xx3:
My sentiments also Mark. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I know I come over a touch brash but, I'm totally behind you guys, Jen :biggrin::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Terpe]

His wage payment details would correspond with what's on his certified bank statements.

You can only give original documents if you have the original documents.

In my case, all my wage slips were online photocopies. Didn't have any issues...Both a fiancee and a spouse Visa were successfully obtained for 2 girls who are now British subjects, using photocopied, uncertified, online wage slips.

My wage payments come from India. Any discrepancies in my payments we have to email. ...there's no one who's physically on hand...only clerks acting as middlemen.

I do understand what you are saying though, leave nothing to chance :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I'm only passing on what I did :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Anyway. ..there's too much of a song and dance being made out of this.

Following 'old' advice might just lead applications to fall for refusal.
Following latest UKVI advice will not.
Non orginal documents such as payslips and banks need to be verified by the issuing authority. (ie Employer for payslips and Banks for statements). Period

[Jentobeharrison]

Following 'old' advice might just lead applications to fall for refusal.
Following latest UKVI advice will not.
Non orginal documents such as payslips and banks need to be verified by the issuing authority. (ie Employer for payslips and Banks for statements). Period

Hi Terpe,

I am really having a hard time filling out my appendix 2 form :(

[Jentobeharrison]

I just submitted my VA4FA (settlement-settlement-marriage) form and paid it. Now trying to answer appendix 2 and will be submitting my documents on 2nd of April, tell me I am crazy (like my fiance did) as I avoided the 1st of April. HAHAHA april fool's day. lol

I will be posting questions about appendix 2 questions, more patience hihihihi. Much love. <3

[Terpe]

Following 'old' advice might just lead applications to fall for refusal.
Following latest UKVI advice will not.
Non orginal documents such as payslips and banks need to be verified by the issuing authority. (ie Employer for payslips and Banks for statements). Period

In all the years I have been a member here this is the very first time I have received a negative rep.
I call upon forum member gWaPito to explain why this post warrants a negative rep from him.
Was it unhelpful?
Offensive for most members?
Why?

You comment stated because I had used the word 'period'.

I am extremely :censored: off about this. Such churlish behaviour Mark.
You overstep the line IMO

[Terpe]

What are you on about :Erm:??Just read this again. ..and you're calling me churlish ...I'd lay off the the sherbert

If you believe Mods are not able to follow who makes negative reps you are mistaken.
And then not to own up to your own churlish actions :NoNo:

Even in the neg rep comment you try to pretend it's not you at all but someone else......Don't even have to courage to stand by what you say.

I do believe Mark that's as low as it gets after all that you've said about that behaviour......

I've decided to sleep on it and give you the chance to do the same.
Then lets see how you think you still deny the action you took, that all the mods can easily see and verify, for nothing more than mean-spirited behaviour.
Simply because you don't like what's being said.

[Terpe]

What are you on about :Erm: ??

I going on about an intended anonymous negative rep given against me for giving correct advice.

You pretended it wasn't you......that's what hurts.......

Does this ring any bells:-

18:34, 21st Mar 2014
gwaps only trying help no need for period

[Jentobeharrison]

Its really sad reading this... Just too bad that a real couple couldn't be together because of the rules... Lets hope for the best!

And, correct me if I'm wrong in understanding that the UKVI is also reviewing the existing financial requirements. Fingers crossed!

Wishing you all the best Jen :Wave:

Since we have an issue about giving reps, I reviewed mine,


Hi Rani! I have reviewed my reputation given, and I have seen that I gave you (accidentally I am sure) a negative rep. I am really sorry, it wasn't meant as a Bad Rep, maybe my internet connection failed me to click the proper reputation. I will make it up to you by giving you one again. I apologise again, I didn't mean it.