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Cheshire Cheez
29th May 2014, 10:57
Hi everyone

I've met a lady in Manila some months ago and plan to bring her to the UK to get married and I know pretty much what is needed to get her here; but there might be some issues I need help with.

Would the EEA visa be easier than the British spouse visa?

I don't plan on marrying in the Philippines so can we marry in Europe?

I have an ex girlfriend who I never married, she is chasing me for money because we had some kids together. Could this be an issue with our application?

Also, if we marry outside the Philippines am I right to think that the marriage isn't recognised in the Philippines?

Cheers

Eddie

Steve.r
29th May 2014, 11:17
Hi everyoneI have an ex girlfriend who I never married, she is chasing me for money because we had some kids together. Could this be an issue with our application?EddieThis will not affect your application, but it will affect your future with your new squeeze if you don't get it sorted properly. Why shouldn't you look after/pay for your children? Any Filipina would like to see you as responsible and a good father before you marry them, so I think this is a first priority before you get married.

Cheshire Cheez
29th May 2014, 11:27
My intended Filipina doesn't know about my past and won't know about my past if I have any say in the matter.

My ex cheated on me and that bloke moved in with her, so he can pay for the upkeep of that household now.

Besides, I run a few businesses but I've tied all that up, officially I earn less than £120 a week so my ex doesn't stand a chance on getting her hands on my earnings. This is why I intend to go for the EEA visa because I can live in Spain for a year or so before moving back.

I also think I need to get a move on before the next election because I think we will be leaving the EU soon.

aprilmaejon
29th May 2014, 11:27
What nationality are you?

I'm not sure if EEA visa is much easier than a UK fiancé visa...

For UK VISA:

She can come over using fiancé visa to UK then you two can marry in the UK within 6 months then apply for (FLR) further leave to remain as a spouse after getting married.

The thing with the UK visa, there's a financial requirement that the sponsor or you should earn at least £18600 a year. If you earn more than that and still supporting your kids, no problem at all.

I got married first here in the UK, then I reported my UK marriage to the registry of marriage in the Philippines. When I came back to Philippines, checked my marital status, it said that I am married. So that means marriage in the UK is recognisable in the Philippines (probably because I reported it? If not, I'm not pretty sure what would it be).
Do you not want it to be recognised in the Philippines for some personal reasons?

Anyway, about EEU visa, ask the other members here, Terpe might be able to give you some informations about that....:smile:

Cheshire Cheez
29th May 2014, 11:49
What nationality are you?

I'm not sure if EEA visa is much easier than a UK fiancé visa...

For UK VISA:

She can come over using fiancé visa to UK then you two can marry in the UK within 6 months then apply for (FLR) further leave to remain as a spouse after getting married.

The thing with the UK visa, there's a financial requirement that the sponsor or you should earn at least £18600 a year. If you earn more than that and still supporting your kids, no problem at all.

I got married first here in the UK, then I reported my UK marriage to the registry of marriage in the Philippines. When I came back to Philippines, checked my marital status, it said that I am married. So that means marriage in the UK is recognisable in the Philippines (probably because I reported it? If not, I'm not pretty sure what would it be).
Do you not want it to be recognised in the Philippines for some personal reasons?

Anyway, about EEU visa, ask the other members here, Terpe might be able to give you some informations about that....:smile:

I am British but half Spanish, so the EEA visa would work.

As for the Philippines, I've been told they don't allow divorce. I've just come out of a car crash of a relationship so if my current one becomes a wreck then I don't want to be stuck in it. And every year I like to go on a lads holiday with my mates, we tend to go places like Pattaya in Thailand or Angeles city in the Philippines, I don't want my current squeeze to think she can make a complaint to the Philippine authorities as I know they consider Adultery a crime over there.

Steve.r
29th May 2014, 12:08
My intended Filipina doesn't know about my past and won't know about my past if I have any say in the matter.

My ex cheated on me and that bloke moved in with her, so he can pay for the upkeep of that household now.

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What a great basis for a new relationship!!! I hope she learns just what sort of person you are. How disgusting that you can not want anything to do with your children, no matter what the circumstances. To be honest I don't feel that I want to give you any advice on getting your innocent girlfriend here, because as soon as she finds out what a cad you are she will leave you faster than a flash of lightning

Cheshire Cheez
29th May 2014, 12:47
That's your opinion, but we men are by nature suffering through monogamy. It isn't natural and you know this in your heart.

As for my kids, when they get older I will sort them out but I won't be putting money in the hands of my ex whilst they are under 18. I told her to go on the pill after our second child and she was too lazy to, so it's her own fault she has 5 children to look after.

And if Angela (my Filipina) chooses to move on, then I too will move on.

SimonH
29th May 2014, 12:55
I am British but half Spanish, so the EEA visa would work.

As for the Philippines, I've been told they don't allow divorce. I've just come out of a car crash of a relationship so if my current one becomes a wreck then I don't want to be stuck in it. And every year I like to go on a lads holiday with my mates, we tend to go places like Pattaya in Thailand or Angeles city in the Philippines, I don't want my current squeeze to think she can make a complaint to the Philippine authorities as I know they consider Adultery a crime over there.



Not sure whether you mean to or not, but you come across as a complete and utter cock :crazy:


You 'officially' earn less than £120 a week, in other words you're screwing the tax man.


Your ex cheated on you but you think it's perfectly acceptable to go on a lads holiday to Pattaya or Angeles City (visiting museums are you :Erm:)


Pot..............Kettle :Erm:

aprilmaejon
29th May 2014, 13:19
My intended Filipina doesn't know about my past and won't know about my past if I have any say in the matter.
Besides, I run a few businesses but I've tied all that up, officially I earn less than £120 a week so my ex doesn't stand a chance on getting her hands on my earnings.

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Keeping your dark side from your gf ey? Why you bringing her to the UK and planning to marry her???... If you really love her and if your intentions for her are real why take her rights away to know a part of you?

No doubts that you wanted the marriage not to be recognisable in the Philippines as it sounds like you two won't last long. :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:

And you're not supporting your children neither?! :yikes: What an irresponsible father you are!!!....or wait wait, before I'll say that, what's your reason for not supporting your kids? It's not their fault if the mother cheated on you. Don't put the blame on them for goodness sake KID!


And every year I like to go on a lads holiday with my mates, we tend to go places like Pattaya in Thailand or Angeles city in the Philippines, I don't want my current squeeze to think she can make a complaint to the Philippine authorities as I know they consider Adultery a crime over there.

You got your one hell of a futuristic thinking there KID, but you really sounds like you need to man up a bit more before taking a woman with you in a married life. Don't take a girl with you into marriage if only you will make her life miserable in here, away from her loved ones while you are having fun with your mates, spending money for holidays every year and not considering that you got kids whom you should really be giving support in the first place! Wake up man!!! A woman also is not just a red shirt that you can use then throw away when your done with it!!! If you are not ready to commit, don't commit! If you want many women in your life, go and f*** all the prosti in Thailand but don't you dare making one decent woman's life in hell just because you aren't contented for just only one. You s***! No wonder why your ex cheated on you as maybe you have been cheating on her first...

I wish you won't get any help from any members here. You don't deserve it as your intentions for that innocent Filipina is obviously not genuine at all! Very questionable indeed!

raynaputi
29th May 2014, 13:37
I do hope your current gf won't be able to go with you in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. She will get hurt in the end. What a great way to start a relationship with her..FULL OF LIES! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown: I wouldn't be offering any help to an :action-smiley-081:hole like you. I hope others won't too. :NoNo:

aprilmaejon
29th May 2014, 13:43
I do hope your current gf won't be able to go with you in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. She will get hurt in the end. What a great way to start a relationship with her..FULL OF LIES! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown: I wouldn't be offering any help to an :action-smiley-081:hole like you. I hope others won't too. :NoNo:
:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3: I'm with you Rayn!

Arthur Little
29th May 2014, 14:19
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

You got your one hell of a futuristic thinking there KID, but you really sounds like you need to man up a bit more before taking a woman with you in a married life. Don't take a girl with you into marriage if only you will make her life miserable in here, away from her loved ones while you are having fun with your mates, spending money for holidays every year and not considering that you got kids whom you should really be giving support in the first place! Wake up man!!!

:gp: ... well said, April ... if I may say so! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Jentobeharrison
29th May 2014, 14:22
I am British but half Spanish, so the EEA visa would work.

As for the Philippines, I've been told they don't allow divorce. I've just come out of a car crash of a relationship so if my current one becomes a wreck then I don't want to be stuck in it. And every year I like to go on a lads holiday with my mates, we tend to go places like Pattaya in Thailand or Angeles city in the Philippines, I don't want my current squeeze to think she can make a complaint to the Philippine authorities as I know they consider Adultery a crime over there.

Haha holiday with the lads in Pattaya and Angeles? Are you still clean? Why don't you get a woman from those places then? Or.... If you want to change for your current gf, I hope you are ready to give up those "dirty" (I think) holidays. It is not too late to change and my only advice is to sort your life first before you get a partner, you will just make her life miserable

Michael Parnham
29th May 2014, 14:35
Forget having a woman at all, a married man shouldn't even think about going out with his mates anywhere! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Jentobeharrison
29th May 2014, 14:37
And funny this man is already thinking of divorce. Tsk tsk go to POF lol

aprilmaejon
29th May 2014, 15:01
a married man shouldn't even think about going out with his mates anywhere!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Not unless if the man is gay or bi......:icon_lol:

He can still go out with his mates but with his wife and his mates' partners :Jump: Or maybe with his mates in a rare occasion :Hellooo: not every year :NoNo::Erm:. on a dirty holiday...

aprilmaejon
29th May 2014, 15:06
And funny this man is already thinking of divorce. Tsk tsk go to POF lol

Exactly! And they're not even married yet...such a t***!

SimonH
29th May 2014, 15:19
I don't think this is going the way the OP intended :laugher:

Michael Parnham
29th May 2014, 15:56
Exactly! And they're not even married yet...such a t***!

Someone ought to tip his girlfriend off and show her what he's said on this Forum! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Arthur Little
29th May 2014, 15:58
And funny this man is already thinking of divorce. Tsk tsk go to POOF lol

Hmm ... :anerikke: ... whatever else he may be, Jen ... I don't think he's a poof :Sex: somehow. :NoNo:

Baruk
29th May 2014, 16:21
My intended Filipina doesn't know about my past and won't know about my past if I have any say in the matter.

My ex cheated on me and that bloke moved in with her......

A happy woman/girlfriend/wife could never cheat.

Judging on your post, you are not a good bf nor be a good husband. Why take care of your kids later when you can take care or provide for them NOW?

You have wasted money for those places? Which we all know why men go there coz of those "red lights"! Your ex cheated on you coz you been ....... around you ....! And you want to drag this new gf of yours to be with you in uk? Without even telling her the truth?

Do you have any idea how long it is to wait for the visa? It takes a lot of patience, love and Trust for both of you to wait that long.. I bet you will be tired of waiting then and you will have another reason for you to break up with your gf...nah!

Don't waste your time and your gf's time.. Just jerk off or might as well go to hell!!

Cheers!!!!

raynaputi
29th May 2014, 16:55
I don't think this is going the way the OP intended :laugher:

Hahahahaha...He made a mistake joining and posting in this forum! What an :xxgrinning-smiley-0:laugher:I hope his girlfriend can find the real him SOON to save her from pain and heartaches. She doesn't deserve to be with this guy. :NoNo:

NoRest
29th May 2014, 18:56
I was wondering why he's got some red bits below his name, he he. Feel sorry for the Pinay gf, no woman deserve such a despicable man.

Cheshire Cheez
29th May 2014, 18:59
Wow, such hate for my choice of lifestyle. But each to their own and I respect all of your opinions, even if you don't respect mine. I have a thick skin so I'm okay.

Just to clarify, I've provided a house for my ex and kids, fully paid and no mortgage. I have money tucked away to pay for my kids to go to university when they are older, but for now I won't allow my ex to profit from me any more.

There was also a comment about my taxes, which is a fair comment. But I disagree with allowing my hard earned money to be squandered on wars I disagree with, healthcare for people I don't know and a plethora of big government spending programs I did not consent to.

As for Angela, I am keeping an open mind on the future. As she might bore of me, or I might bore of her in years to come (get a younger model) so I don't want to be tied down too much.

But can I get an EEA visa and marry in say Spain or Italy?

Terpe
29th May 2014, 20:04
.......But can I get an EEA visa and marry in say Spain or Italy?

No you cannot.

You'll need to get a Plan B

aprilmaejon
30th May 2014, 08:19
Wow, such hate for my choice of lifestyle. But each to their own and I respect all of your opinions, even if you don't respect mine. I have a thick skin so I'm okay.

Just to clarify, I've provided a house for my ex and kids, fully paid and no mortgage. I have money tucked away to pay for my kids to go to university when they are older, but for now I won't allow my ex to profit from me any more.

There was also a comment about my taxes, which is a fair comment. But I disagree with allowing my hard earned money to be squandered on wars I disagree with, healthcare for people I don't know and a plethora of big government spending programs I did not consent to.

As for Angela, I am keeping an open mind on the future. As she might bore of me, or I might bore of her in years to come (get a younger model) so I don't want to be tied down too much.

But can I get an EEA visa and marry in say Spain or Italy?

WOW? Are you really fascinated for such hatred you received from us for your choice of lifestyle? Which of your lifestyle you think we hated the most? Any idea?
In case you do not know yet, you as person is not worthy for a respect as you are full of craps and a perfect walking dictionary for a one big :xxgrinning-smiley-0n!

You provided a house yeah?, hello?! wakey wakey! It is your obligation Mister, not just a responsibility to your family (ex ey? and kids!) soooooo please don't be too proud trying to brag and nag that thing to us only to excuse or justify yourself from not taking the whole responsibility to your kids! They are yours from the day they were conceived, and based on what you said, you have tucked away some money for their university fees when they get older, you are actually only taking one point of the responsibility of a father to a child. I'll take that you have no plans neither to bring them here in the UK or Europe, wherever.. as you only want to start supporting them when they reach the age of 18 which will be harder for them to be petitioned as your children in the UK or EEA, in addition to that, they might no longer know you or worst disown you as their father when that time comes. A child needs a father in their growing up years not only on their younger adult years Mister....and supporting them on their college life wouldn't make you a good father neither. Didn't it cross your mind? Maybe not because you are such a d***! If your only reason for not supporting your children is your ex who might take advantage of your financial support then forget about that for goodness sake, think about your children, they should be your first priority not your hatred to your ex nor your dirty holiday yearly with your mates. How about your kids, don't they deserve to have a holiday with you? Spending a nice father and child type of a holiday somewhere? It would have been nice for them to cherish.. Or aren't they as important as your mates or yourself? You are so selfish you know...such a selfish man. I feel very sorry for your kids. I don't want to judge you but I can't resist it, most especially that innocent children are involved in a situation and the idea of you being as their father makes my blood boil. :mad::cwm23:

I am a Filipina and a a foreigner to the UK, and there's a lot of us here but we all pay taxes. We also work so hard and get small pay after some tax deductions but we are not bothered so much that the taxes we pay benefits other people in the UK, (we could have done with paying taxes for our people in the Philippines to benefit from it but that is not happening) because we are not that severely SELFISH like you...you love nobody other than yourself and yourself and yourself. :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:

You are boring indeed because you only love yourself....and women for you are like a red shirt, you can wear it until you are sick of it! Shame on you!You are hideous. You don't deserve to be love, cared nor respected! I can't believe someone like you exist!

mickcant
30th May 2014, 09:47
I am a Filipina and a a foreigner to the UK, and there's a lot of us here but we all pay taxes. We also work so hard and get small pay after some tax deductions but we are not bothered so much that the taxes we pay benefits other people in the UK, (we could have done with paying taxes for our people in the Philippines to benefit from it but that is not happening) because we are not that severely SELFISH like you...you love nobody other than yourself and yourself and yourself. :NoNo::NoNo::NoNo:

You are boring indeed because you only love yourself....and women for you are like a red shirt, you can wear it until you are sick of it! Shame on you!You are hideous. You don't deserve to be love, cared nor respected! I can't believe someone like you exist!

Very well said, let's hope she sees through him.:crazy:
Mick. :thumbsdown:

FilipinaDiver
30th May 2014, 09:56
Wow, such hate for my choice of lifestyle. But each to their own and I respect all of your opinions, even if you don't respect mine. I have a thick skin so I'm okay.


I'm sure the people who replied on your thread are not jealous of your lifestyle. We simply think you're too thick skin or better yet an :xxgrinning-smiley-0 to take pride of your 'lifestyle'. There is nothing to be jealous of of your life my dear. Are you really that ugly or desperate to consider going to Pattaya or Angeles?

fred
30th May 2014, 10:56
You provided a house yeah?, hello?! wakey wakey! It is your obligation Mister, not just a responsibility to your family (ex ey? and kids!) soooooo please don't be too proud trying to brag and nag that thing to us only to excuse or justify yourself from not taking the whole responsibility to your kids! They are yours from the day they were conceived, and based on what you said, you have tucked away some money for their university fees when they get older, you are actually only taking one point of the responsibility of a father to a child. I'll take that you have no plans neither to bring them here in the UK or Europe, wherever.. as you only want to start supporting them when they reach the age of 18

To be fair..You are making assumptions without knowing the full details..

He did say that his wife cheated on him and moved her BF into his family house..

That in itself is a tough situation as there is a very good chance that any child support sent by him would go towards the BF`s Tanduay fund (and others)..

Who`s to say that the kids are his at all?? It might be that his wife was cheating on him from day one or even before??? Who knows?

Unless this guy is prepared to tell all then I`m staying well out of it..

It's none of my business..

Baruk
30th May 2014, 11:04
You're thick as ****! Spending time and money to your so called 'lifestyle' whilst you can spend that on your kids! You are an irresponsible ****! People like you gets into my nerve. You need to grow up and be a Man! Be a father to your kids.


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bigmac
30th May 2014, 11:09
To be fair..You are making assumptions without knowing the full details..

He did say that his wife cheated on him and moved her BF in..

That in itself is a tough situation as there is a very good chance that any child support sent by him would go towards the BF`s Tanduay fund (and others)..

Who`s to say that the kids are his at all?? It might be that his wife was cheating on him from day one or even before??? Who knows?

Unless this guy is prepared to tell all then I`m staying well out of it..

Its none of my business..


Well said.

I think the OP's last message was well written and showed he has a lot of respect for this board and its members. I hope he writes some more.

aprilmaejon
30th May 2014, 13:31
Statement A.
but we men are by nature suffering through monogamy. It isn't natural and you know this in your heart.
Statement B.

And every year I like to go on a lads holiday with my mates, we tend to go places like Pattaya in Thailand or Angeles city in the Philippines, I don't want my current squeeze to think she can make a complaint to the Philippine authorities as I know they consider Adultery a crime over there.

Entertainments like this in PATTAYA Or ANGELES huh?! Pole dancing dens...
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/aprilmaejon/imagejpg1_zps3d51a209.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/aprilmaejon/media/imagejpg1_zps3d51a209.jpg.html)
Is that appropriate for a family man?!

Statement C.

There was also a comment about my taxes, which is a fair comment. But I disagree with allowing my hard earned money to be squandered on wars I disagree with, healthcare for people I don't know and a plethora of big government spending programs I did not consent to.



To be fair..You are making assumptions without knowing the full details..
He did say that his wife cheated on him and moved her BF in.. That in itself is a tough situation as there is a very good chance that any child support sent by him would go towards the BF`s Tanduay fund (and others)..
Who`s to say that the kids are his at all?? It might be that his wife was cheating on him from day one or even before??? Who knows?
Unless this guy is prepared to tell all then I`m staying well out of it..
Its none of my business..

To Fred,

Look, I am guilty of making assumptions without knowing his entire story yeah but reading his short personal statements above as you can see, little by little it completes the puzzle of what kind of an Adam he is...

If he made his ex girlfriend happy, she couldn't have had cheated on him. She must have found these bloke that she is living with now much more caring, loving, ATTENTIVE, LOYAL, HONEST and FAITHFUL. (How do I Know? Because she sticked to him, he's probably be a better father-figure to her children. :anerikke:). He probably don't possessed these characteristics or maybe he does but not been shown to her as he is not always around her due to his holiday out and about with his lads in Pattaya and Angeles. And based on his statement A, "men by nature are suffering from monogamy"... would you agree to that? Are all men in this forum feels the same way too? Are you all suffering from having only one woman in your life?! Would you all wish to have another women in a holiday place? What a wonderful honest statement from a womaniser!!! Any decent man who doesn't cheat at all would say that statement in a forum wherein most members are practising monogamy?! By that simple statement Fred you could tell that he will never ever be contented of just one p****...he wants one p**** to another p****. His ex girlfriend did not just cheated on him because he is a boring man....she must have done it because he's probably a d***head from the start of their relationship.

He said that he have kids from that ex of his, he would not have said that if he is not entirely sure that they aren't....besides, he would know if they are not his children because of the physical appearance. These kids are mixed race so obviously physical attributes from the father can be noticed...not unless if the bloke she cheated on is a foreigner as well..:Erm:

It is definitely none of our business but the man asked for an advice here about bringing his poor gf in the UK/EEA who has no single idea of his dark secrets...not to mention that he doesn't want the marriage to be recognised in the Philippines because adultery is a crime there and that yearly he wants to be out and about with his mates in places where it is surrounded by seductive women and adultery indeed is very likely to happen...it's our business to know otherwise we will all be an accessory for a crime of an adulterous man!

Now, Cheshire Cheez, you got all the forum members to listen to you clearing your name and stop us here who assumed too much about your story... Tell us how good your intentions are for your future wife? Tell us that you wouldn't just bring her somewhere, keeping her for your private snacks whenever you come back home from work but then take more snacky snacks snacks when you're at the pole clubs in Pattaya or Angeles.


I'm such a bad girl! :cwm23::cwm23::cwm23:

jake
30th May 2014, 13:49
To be fair..You are making assumptions without knowing the full details..
He did say that his wife cheated on him and moved her BF into his family house..
That in itself is a tough situation as there is a very good chance that any child support sent by him would go towards the BF`s Tanduay fund (and others)

The whole thread is full of assumptions.

At what point did the OP say his ex girlfriend was Filipina? :Erm: She could be any nationality and live in any country :anerikke:

Presuming that her new boyfriend would spend any money sent is also wrong IMO.

aprilmaejon
30th May 2014, 14:00
The whole thread is full of assumptions.

...then he can clarify things out himself. He is free to tell us the real story anyway so at least members from here who we're furious after reading his comments can give him advices with regards to his new gf's future visa application instead of holding back the informations thinking that he's a bad guy...:anerikke:

fred
30th May 2014, 14:17
Look, I am guilty of making assumptions without knowing his entire story yeah but reading his short personal statements above as you can see, little by little it completes the puzzle

Again..To be fair,we only have about 10 parts of a 5.000 piece puzzle.... Perhaps? Who knows. Not me!

So far we have heard a pretty scant and partial chapter of a persons life story..I`m sure there is lots missing so who am I to judge?

I've said before on this forum that I know of many Filipino guys with multiple children that no longer know, least of all give support to them..

The record holder (my neighbour) has 17 children by 9 different women and he announces it proudly to all and sundry.. I have met many others with the same kind of status over the years.

I don't judge him/them that he/they cannot support their kids as it could make them lose face in front of their friends which would put me in a bad predicament..

In their defense, perhaps its a cultural thing for Filipinos to have a mistress/es??

I don't know.. I don't want to know.

Perhaps, Cheeze wiz`s Mrs has shacked up with one just like them??

Would you send child support to such a household?

Not me..

I`d have to think of another way.

dontpushme
30th May 2014, 14:22
I'm under the impression Cheshire Cheez's ex is in the UK and is only after him for child support. I do agree that it may be better to save his money to give the kids when they're no longer minors, like in a trust fund perhaps. However, he has come off as a terrible jerk because of his lack of honesty with Angela (the new squeeze) about his past. As mentioned before, none of this is the children's fault, and the way the OP casually talks about his children as distant things makes me think that he really doesn't care about them. That's something that Filipinos would find unacceptable. As aprilmae said, the kids deserve to spend time with their father. Most Filipinas, if not all, would agree that a responsible father (or step-father, as the ex' new man is) is much more commendable than someone who washes his hands of his responsibilities just to run off and chase tail elsewhere.

Cheshire Cheez, I think what people are really upset about are the lies, subterfuge, and intended future cheating/divorce. No one here claims that they would never visit a strip club. No one here claims that they have never kept secrets from their spouses either. But there needs to be honesty in a marriage about the things you've mentioned, which happen to be major issues. You shouldn't trap Angela in a marriage that you already know won't work because monogamy isn't your cup of tea. It's bad enough that you've been keeping your past from her. It is absolutely unforgivable that your marriage plans include you tainting the relationship with regular trips to titty bars (or worse). As for getting bored with her, I'd hazard a guess that she'd rather not get married to someone who would cast her aside so easily. You'd be better off just asking her if she wants to be friends with benefits. Who knows? She may say yes.

fred
30th May 2014, 14:27
The whole thread is full of assumptions.
At what point did the OP say his ex girlfriend was Filipina :Erm: She could be any nationality and live in any country :anerikke:
Presuming that her new boyfriend would spend any money sent is also wrong IMO.



Yes, Jake. You are quite right.. I'm also guilty of making assumptions which I will now cease!!

Thanks for that!!

aprilmaejon
30th May 2014, 16:41
Yes Jake. You are quite right.. Im also guilty of making assumptions which I will now cease!!

Thanks for that!!

:laugher: you got him Jake, I could have told you that earlier Fred if and only if I wasn't doing this :laundry::ironing::hoovering:....now you know...

Let's leave everything to Mr. Cheshire cheez now, Eddie for short... Let him do the talking :blahblah:

Ooh wait, I want to add something...it's about having mistress/ess is not a cultural thing in the Philippines. I believe this is a worldly thing. Anyone in the world can have a mistress if they want to so don't say that this is solely happening in the Philippines. You may be have encountered few walking examples of these type of people there, but it doesn't mean that it is only happening there. It is happening anywhere in the planet. I actually know someone who happens to be a mistress first of an English man before they got married in the UK. The man was married when he met this woman online secretly, he brought her to the UK using student visa, sheltered her and financed everything for her to live comfortably in here. They see each other most days secretly for a year until his wife found out..eventually the man asked to divorced his wife. 2 or 3 years later, the mistress became the legal wife...

fred
30th May 2014, 16:51
Jake!!! You got me Jake!! A real gut wound Jake!! Why did you....Ugg..Ughhh.. I`m dead.
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/255/PreviewComp/SuperStock_255-44303B.jpg:icon_lol:

fred
30th May 2014, 16:55
:laugher: you got him Jake, I could have told you that earlier Fred if and only if I wasn't doing this :ironing::hoovering:....now you know...


Get on with your Ironing and hoovering woman!!:wink:

Cheshire Cheez
30th May 2014, 22:14
April, my lifestyle clearly causes you bother, this is because my way of living challenges what you believe about the world and I understand that.

How many on this board knows that the human penis is designed kind of like a plunger? Did you know that our penis has evolved to scoop out any sperm already inside the female vagina and men spurt sperm in 3 phases. Phase 1: The attacking sperm, designed to kill any other sperm inside the woman. Phase 2: The general worker sperm, these are the racers who try to get to the egg and fertilise it. Phase 3: A blocking chemical designed to protect the main spurt from attack from another male and his sperm.

In other words, we evolved competing with other males to impregnate a female. Monogamy is simply a human creation brought about by years of religious indoctrination.

Many of you wonder why I am not completely honest with Angela. Honesty isn't important really, what matters is that she gets the life she dreams about and wants from me. If she wants an honest husband who worships her and is happy to see her go back to Makati every year, then that is what she will know. After all, the truth is simply reality as seen from our own little bubble and she doesn't need to see things from my bubble.

My ex is not a Filipina, she is Thai so I guess it looks like I have a thing for South East Asian ladies. Which is true, but some of my lads holidays have been in Las Vegas and the ladies there I've gone for are blonde eyes and blue hair. It's hard to pinpoint my type of woman really.

Thanks for the help Terpe. Plan B it is then.

I've now come to the decision that a wedding in the Philippines might actually be a good idea after all. I read that Adultery in the Philippines is classed as 'consensual sexual intercourse between a married woman and a man who is not her husband', therefore so long as the lady in question isn't married I shall be fine.

So how do I arrange a wedding in the Philippines?

dontpushme
30th May 2014, 22:39
April, my lifestyle clearly causes you bother, this is because my way of living challenges what you believe about the world and I understand that.

How many on this board knows that the human penis is designed kind of like a plunger? Did you know that our penis has evolved to scoop out any sperm already inside the female vagina and men spurt sperm in 3 phases. Phase 1: The attacking sperm, designed to kill any other sperm inside the woman. Phase 2: The general worker sperm, these are the racers who try to get to the egg and fertilise it. Phase 3: A blocking chemical designed to protect the main spurt from attack from another male and his sperm.

In other words, we evolved competing with other males to impregnate a female. Monogamy is simply a human creation brought about by years of religious indoctrination.

Many of you wonder why I am not completely honest with Angela. Honesty isn't important really, what matters is that she gets the life she dreams about and wants from me. If she wants an honest husband who worships her and is happy to see her go back to Makati every year, then that is what she will know. After all, the truth is simply reality as seen from our own little bubble and she doesn't need to see things from my bubble.

My ex is not a Filipina, she is Thai so I guess it looks like I have a thing for South East Asian ladies. Which is true, but some of my lads holidays have been in Las Vegas and the ladies there I've gone for are blonde eyes and blue hair. It's hard to pinpoint my type of woman really.

Thanks for the help Terpe. Plan B it is then.

I've now come to the decision that a wedding in the Philippines might actually be a good idea after all. I read that Adultery in the Philippines is classed as 'consensual sexual intercourse between a married woman and a man who is not her husband', therefore so long as the lady in question isn't married I shall be fine.

I'd call you a pig, but you'd give pigs a bad name.


So how do I arrange a wedding in the Philippines?

For your specific situation, all you'd need is a pen and your computer chair. Shove the handle of the pen in the seat cushion, then as hard as you can, sit down on the tip. Better yet, sit on a broken broom handle. And while that suggestion's still fresh in your disgusting, sick mind, I'm leaving this stupid thread coz I flatly refuse to help a man plan his seduction and permanent abuse of another innocent woman. May all your children forever despise you and may your nuts shrivel to the size of dried currants while all the women you use cheat on you with your brother, best friend, and/or worst enemy.

Cheshire Cheez
30th May 2014, 22:53
I'm making a woman happy, providing for her and her family. That is a good thing and I appreciate my words challenge you, so if I offend you then I understand your frustration.

Michael Parnham
30th May 2014, 23:04
Wow, this thread could throw doubt on all our relationships!:Erm:

raynaputi
30th May 2014, 23:04
I'd call you a pig, but you'd give pigs a bad name.



For your specific situation, all you'd need is a pen and your computer chair. Shove the handle of the pen in the seat cushion, then as hard as you can, sit down on the tip. Better yet, sit on a broken broom handle. And while that suggestion's still fresh in your disgusting, sick mind, I'm leaving this stupid thread coz I flatly refuse to help a man plan his seduction and permanent abuse of another innocent woman. May all your children forever despise you and may your nuts shrivel to the size of dried currants while all the women you use cheat on you with your brother, best friend, and/or worst enemy.

:laugher::laugher:

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

marksroomspain
30th May 2014, 23:45
God I have loved reading the last few posts especially from the girls filipina, rayna, jen, april and denise reminds me of my wife with hormones while pregnant a no go area lol, but seriously it has given me a laugh how we protect innocents from tossers....:biggrin:

Well done girls love it......:wink:...:laugher:....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

bigmac
31st May 2014, 00:07
Yes, it's better entertainment than the crap on the telly.

Next instalment please!

Rosie1958
31st May 2014, 01:18
Absolutely hilarious posts from our Filipinas, thank you so much for the laugh Ladies, :laugher: I agree with most of what has been said, well done to you all! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheez …….. I am a well travelled British female and consider myself to be quite worldly. I know exactly what goes on in the Ladyboy capital of Pattaya and of the sex tourism that Angeles City in Philippines is renowned for. I have been to girlie bars and seen for myself what you guys get up to. Indeed, seeing the hundreds of European males running in and out of the “gentleman” bars in Makati such as The Ivory Club, Pussycat, etc . , thinking that they are the best thing since sliced bread and looking eagerly for their next lay, made my partner and I want to throw up. Each to their own as you put it but looking for favours from prostitute bar girls (and boys) in my opinion is the lowest demeaning act and says something about the class and character of a man who is supposed to be in a "loving" relationship.

There are many men in this world who, for one reason or another, are not capable of having a fully committed relationship and who in my opinion would benefit from counselling. In our society it is the norm to only have one partner and the majority celebrate being a monogamous nation. We all have different values, being open and honest in a relationship is very high on my own agenda, as is loyalty and trust. In my opinion, if the relationship that you have with your fiancée is based only on what you want her to know, it is doomed to fail as she will eventually find out if you have anything to hide or are up to no good.

Here in the UK, women don’t generally accept unfaithfulness on any level. If you play with fire, expect to have your fingers burnt big time as a woman scorned will always eventually get her own back, mark my words. I do realise that your fiancé is of course Filipina but she will learn from others here in the UK.

Sorry but I do find your whole attitude towards your relationships rather immature and self centred, especially the lack of truth and your need to regularly escape with your male friends to the above places, ignoring the effect that your behaviour will have on your fiancee. Personally, from what you have said, I don’t think that you are ready to sufficiently commit yourself to the relationship that your fiancée will need and expect as your wife. I suggest that you look at your behaviours and the wider longer term picture for everyone close to you ........... :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 01:27
You don't get to run your own business without developing a good thick skin, so I don't get fazed with any of the negative comments, especially as they don't approach the substance of anything I've written. All of the attacks have been without any real rebutal, because deep down you all know I am right in what I preach!

I might not be perfect, but at least I am honest to you all.

Only Michael Parnham has been honest enough to consider that my words could bring about a deep and meaningful thought in his head. Thank you Michael :xxgrinning--00xx3:

raynaputi
31st May 2014, 01:29
:76::76::76:

fred
31st May 2014, 01:41
April, my lifestyle clearly causes you bother, this is because my way of living challenges what you believe about the world and I understand that.

How many on this board knows that the human penis is designed kind of like a plunger? Did you know that our penis has evolved to scoop out any sperm already inside the female vagina and men spurt sperm in 3 phases. Phase 1: The attacking sperm, designed to kill any other sperm inside the woman. Phase 2: The general worker sperm, these are the racers who try to get to the egg and fertilise it. Phase 3: A blocking chemical designed to protect the main spurt from attack from another male and his sperm.

In other words, we evolved competing with other males to impregnate a female. Monogamy is simply a human creation brought about by years of religious indoctrination.

Many of you wonder why I am not completely honest with Angela. Honesty isn't important really, what matters is that she gets the life she dreams about and wants from me. If she wants an honest husband who worships her and is happy to see her go back to Makati every year, then that is what she will know. After all, the truth is simply reality as seen from our own little bubble and she doesn't need to see things from my bubble.

My ex is not a Filipina, she is Thai so I guess it looks like I have a thing for South East Asian ladies. Which is true, but some of my lads holidays have been in Las Vegas and the ladies there I've gone for are blonde eyes and blue hair. It's hard to pinpoint my type of woman really.

Thanks for the help Terpe. Plan B it is then.

I've now come to the decision that a wedding in the Philippines might actually be a good idea after all. I read that Adultery in the Philippines is classed as 'consensual sexual intercourse between a married woman and a man who is not her husband', therefore so long as the lady in question isn't married I shall be fine.

So how do I arrange a wedding in the Philippines?


This site is a mine of information..You just need to dig it up.
Here`s your first shovel full...

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/35648-Englishman-marrying-Filipina-in-Philippines?highlight=getting+married+in+the+philippines

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 01:45
Absolutely hilarious posts from our Filipinas, thank you so much for the laugh Ladies, :laugher: I agree with most of what has been said, well done to you all! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheez …….. I am a well travelled British female and consider myself to be quite worldly. I know exactly what goes on in the Ladyboy capital of Pattaya and of the sex tourism that Angeles City in Philippines is renouned for. I have been to girlie bars and seen for myself what you guys get up to. Indeed, seeing the hundreds of European males running in and out of the “gentleman” bars in Makati such as The Ivory Club, Pussycat, etc . , thinking that they are the best thing since sliced bread and looking eagerly for their next lay, made my partner and I want to throw up. Each to their own as you put it but looking for favours from prostitute bar girls (and boys) in my opinion is the lowest demeaning act and says something about the class and character of a man who is supposed to be in a "loving" relationship.

There are many men in this world who, for one reason or another, are not capable of having a fully committed relationship and who in my opinion would benefit from counselling. In our society it is the norm to only have one partner and the majority celebrate being a monogamous nation. We all have different values, being open and honest in a relationship is very high on my own agenda, as is loyalty and trust. In my opinion, if the relationship that you have with your fiancée is based only on what you want her to know, it is doomed to fail as she will eventually find out if you have anything to hide or are up to no good.

Here in the UK, women don’t generally accept unfaithfulness on any level. If you play with fire, expect to have your fingers burnt big time as a woman scorned will always eventually get her own back, mark my words. I do realise that your fiancé is of course Filipina but she will learn from others here in the UK.

Sorry but I do find your whole attitude towards your relationships rather immature and self centered, especially the lack of truth and your need to regularly escape with your male friends to the above places, ignoring the affect that your behaviour will have on your fiancee. Personally, from what you have said, I don’t think that you are ready to sufficiently commit yourself to the relationship that your fiancée will need and expect as your wife. I suggest that you look at your behaviours and the wider longer term picture for everyone close to you ........... :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thank you for a detailed response Rosie.

However, although I can clearly read that you disagree with my lifestyle, you're simply articulating an artificial belief in the reality of monogamy.

There is not one man who has written on this thread who at one point or another indulge in some free internet pornography. And that is an indictment into the fact that those men are forcibly living their lives under a regime forced upon them, that is completely unnatural to all of their being.

Whilst boys might grow up with the doctrine of Christianity and consider monogamy to be a moral thing, deep within their being they feel the conflict of their nature versus what they've been told all their lives.

I simply choose to free myself from these doctrinal rules imposed by religious leaders and women keen to maintain the status quo.

The truth is, I was glad when my ex cheated on me. It allowed me the opportunity to leave what was a terrible relationship. I had long had a few online friendships with ladies in the Philippines, but only took it to the next step after I was a free man again. Lek (my ex) was trying to control me like all women control their men, but I needed to be free. And so I allowed an online relationship to blossom and when Lek helped end our relationship I had in effect moved on already.

Rosie1958
31st May 2014, 01:49
You don't get to run your own business without developing a good thick skin, so I don't get fazed with any of the negative comments, especially as they don't approach the substance of anything I've written. All of the attacks have been without any real rebutal, because deep down you all know I am right in what I preach!

I might not be perfect, but at least I am honest to you all.

Only Michael Parnham has been honest enough to consider that my words could bring about a deep and meaningful thought in his head. Thank you Michael :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Being an ex Inland Revenue employee, I beg to differ as you have stated yourself that you dishonestly don't pay your share. :cwm24: Avoiding paying tax for the reasons you have given because you state that you disagree with how the revenue is spent and leaving the rest of us to foot your share of the bill is not acceptable. What makes you so special??

I guess the truth is hard to swallow ...................

Rosie1958
31st May 2014, 02:02
Thank you for a detailed response Rosie.

However, although I can clearly read that you disagree with my lifestyle, you're simply articulating an artificial belief in the reality of monogamy.

There is not one man who has written on this thread who at one point or another indulge in some free internet pornography. And that is an indictment into the fact that those men are forcibly living their lives under a regime forced upon them, that is completely unnatural to all of their being.

Whilst boys might grow up with the doctrine of Christianity and consider monogamy to be a moral thing, deep within their being they feel the conflict of their nature versus what they've been told all their lives.

I simply choose to free myself from these doctrinal rules imposed by religious leaders and women keen to maintain the status quo.

The truth is, I was glad when my ex cheated on me. It allowed me the opportunity to leave what was a terrible relationship. I had long had a few online friendships with ladies in the Philippines, but only took it to the next step after I was a free man again. Lek (my ex) was trying to control me like all women control their men, but I needed to be free. And so I allowed an online relationship to blossom and when Lek helped end our relationship I had in effect moved on already.

Cheez, looking at porn pictures on the internet is a bit different to visiting girlie bars. I am sorry to hear that you were in a terrible relationship and it sounds like leaving it was probably best for all concerned but you don't appear to have come out of it unscathed. The concerns that have been expressed are for your fiancée, and from what you say, I think that you still have emotional issues that need to be addressed if you want your relationship and marriage to last .......Just the opinion of an outsider :xxgrinning--00xx3:

fred
31st May 2014, 02:11
Cheez, looking at porn pictures on the internet is a bit different to visiting girlie bars. I am sorry to hear that you were in a terrible relationship and it sounds like leaving it was probably best for all concerned but you don't appear to have come out of it unscathed. The concerns that have been expressed are for your fiancée, and from what you say, I think that you still have emotional issues that need to be addressed if you want your relationship and marriage to last .......Just the opinion of an outsider :xxgrinning--00xx3:


Words of wisdom!
:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 02:12
What makes you so special??

I simply learned to say no. No to paying for wars I don't agree with. No to subsidising the lifestyles of people choosing not to work.

If we all stood up and said no and stopped paying our taxes, there would be a revolution. I alone cannot start a revolution, nor do I intend to. So an evolution of thought will have to do.

fred
31st May 2014, 02:36
For all of those who plan to marry in the Philippines it is advisable to read this first, specially the parts about you obligations and duties...

http://www.weddingsatwork.com/culture_laws_familycode01.shtml

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 02:41
For all of those who plan to marry in the Philippines it is advisable to read this first, specially the parts about you obligations and duties...

http://www.weddingsatwork.com/culture_laws_familycode01.shtml

Nice link good sir. Thank you very much for the help.

Jentobeharrison
31st May 2014, 02:59
Well, whatever your personal issues are, I guess it would be none of our business and they are right, we only know few of your life but one thing is I really want to reiterate, I hope you are still CLEAN for your soon to be wife.

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 03:02
Well, whatever your personal issues are, I guess it would be none of our business and they are right, we only know few of your life but one thing is I really want to reiterate, I hope you are still CLEAN for your soon to be wife.

Every 3 months I take an STI test, plus I never do anything without a condom.

I am clean as a whistle!

Arthur Little
31st May 2014, 03:07
Oh well, :Erm: ... Eddie ... if you would care to take a look under your username, you'll see that - at this precise moment in time - there're a couple of dark green reputation blobs (replacing the corresponding number of red ones which were there previously).

Then ... if you click on these green blobs you'll observe that it says ... and I quote:

"Cheshire Cheez will become famous soon enough"

:yeahthat:'s certainly true :icon_rolleyes: ... albeit it seems to me that, in the short time you've been among us, you've already succeeded in becoming infamous ... as in notorious!

Hmm ... :anerikke: ... is it any wonder :cwm24: ... ?

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 03:14
I have no intention, nor inclination to try and maneuver myself and my posts to command green or red stickers.

I am here to seek advice and information, challenge people on an intellectual scale and throughout this whole process we shall all grow.

Plus, there is the salaciousness of this subject that brings people back for more. Sex is the most important aspect of our lives, we should all discuss it.

FilipinaDiver
31st May 2014, 08:41
Oh Cheshire Cheez, if I were you and I'm serious of getting visa help on this forum, I would create a new account after almost bragging of your bed hopping lifestyle. This forum is as clean as you could get, the people here are mostly BBC politically correct and not to mention the members here are happily married/together/engaged. So, this is not the place to parade your lifestyle which involves watching pingpong balls coming from a V. At 29, I have lived in Thailand, Egypt, USA and now in the UK and I have seen a lot at that age but I have not encountered a man as pea-sized brain and self-centered as you. Dear, maybe you could try (excuse me) converting into Islam, you can marry up to 4 wives actually 5, but you will have to divorce one of 4 before you can marry the 5th. I wish you good luck with your upcoming marriage, NOT!!! We're all prostitutes you know, some sell what's in between their legs, others between their ears.

fred
31st May 2014, 08:55
Oh Cheshire Cheez, if I were you and I'm serious of getting visa help on this forum, I would create a new account after almost bragging of your bed hopping lifestyle. This forum is as clean as you could get, the people here are mostly BBC politically correct and not to mention the members here are happily married/together/engaged. So, this is not the place to parade your lifestyle which involves watching pingpong balls coming from a V. At 29, I have lived in Thailand, Egypt, USA and now in the UK and I have seen a lot at that age but I have not encountered a man as pea-sized brain and self-centered as you. Dear, maybe you could try (excuse me) converting into Islam, you can marry up to 4 wives actually 5, but you will have to divorce one of 4 before you can marry the 5th. I wish you good luck with your upcoming marriage, NOT!!! We're all prostitutes you know, some sell what's in between their legs, others between their ears.

Filipina diver..

Just noticed your location is in Cheshire too..
I reckon if you two should ever bump into one another down
the pub, you would both get on like a house on fire!! :icon_lol:

:peepwall:

Rosie1958
31st May 2014, 09:31
I simply learned to say no. No to paying for wars I don't agree with. No to subsidising the lifestyles of people choosing not to work.

If we all stood up and said no and stopped paying our taxes, there would be a revolution. I alone cannot start a revolution, nor do I intend to. So an evolution of thought will have to do.

How ridiculous and irresponsible ............ I bet that you are happy to make use of the NHS healthcare. It will serve you right when Revenue and Customs catches up with you and imposes penalties.

Rosie1958
31st May 2014, 09:35
April, my lifestyle clearly causes you bother, this is because my way of living challenges what you believe about the world and I understand that.

How many on this board knows that the human penis is designed kind of like a plunger? Did you know that our penis has evolved to scoop out any sperm already inside the female vagina and men spurt sperm in 3 phases. Phase 1: The attacking sperm, designed to kill any other sperm inside the woman. Phase 2: The general worker sperm, these are the racers who try to get to the egg and fertilise it. Phase 3: A blocking chemical designed to protect the main spurt from attack from another male and his sperm.

In other words, we evolved competing with other males to impregnate a female. Monogamy is simply a human creation brought about by years of religious indoctrination.

I am surprised at your age that you haven't learnt that the biggest sex organ is the BRAIN ....:doh

bigmac
31st May 2014, 11:16
Full respect to Cheez for not responding like for like with some of insulting personal remarks on this thread.

I find his writing refreshingly honest--and different. also--I can empathise with a guy who has lost his kids in a break-up. Happens all too often in this country.

aprilmaejon
31st May 2014, 14:06
I am surprised at your age that you haven't learnt that the biggest sex organ is the BRAIN ....:doh

He is still a KID Rosie..and in the UK they said, LIFE STARTS AT 40.

I wouldn't say as much as I did before as there's no point of doing it at all. We'll just agree to disagree...in the end, he is what he is, what can we do?

Thanks anyway Cheshire Cheez for showing your real skin to us, not using a mask to cover your self up. Despite of this, I am and the rest of the women on this forum still won't agree with you as there's no such a thing as "other males competing to impregnate us", we are all monogamous....women here are clean and believed in the essence of HONESTY in a relationship. We love our husbands, so that work for us but since you are only marrying a girl for convenience, it won't matter to you at all.

...And just to make you aware,I wasn't challenge on how you live the world...I actually pity you for such a man you are..a man whose heart and brain is on the tip of his penis!

Anyway enough for this, good luck and enjoy your kiddy days, just wait for the consequence of how you behave right now until you reach the age of REGRETS.

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 14:18
Full respect to Cheez for not responding like for like with some of insulting personal remarks on this thread.

I find his writing refreshingly honest--and different. also--I can empathise with a guy who has lost his kids in a break-up. Happens all too often in this country.

Such attacks would get me nowhere, I've learned over years of arguments with clients and disgruntled customers that the best way to handle any conflict is calmly and thinking before you say anything.

I stand for a higher ideal, getting back to the nature of humanity, unhindered by obscure social constructs. My words threaten some people on here so it is entirely understandable that they would feel aggrieved as such.

Breaking up with my ex had to happen at some point, she was getting too comfortable and was trying to tell me what to do. I can't have anyone try to control me, it's just not who I am. Of course the irony is that Lek was my new squeeze in 2004 after 15 years in an appalling marriage with my first wife who had really let herself go. I thought life with Lek would be different but she too let herself go from the free spirited young woman in 2004, to a bitter and twisted woman in 2013.

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 14:22
He is still a KID Rosie..and in the UK they said, LIFE STARTS AT 40.

I wouldn't say as much as I did before as there's no point of doing it at all. We'll just agree to disagree...in the end, he is what he is, what can we do?

Thanks anyway Cheshire Cheez for showing your real skin to us, not using a mask to cover your self up. Despite of this, I am and the rest of the women on this forum still won't agree with you as there's no such a thing as "other males competing to impregnate us", we are all monogamous....women here are clean and believed in the essence of HONESTY in a relationship. We love our husbands, so that work for us but since you are only marrying a girl for convenience, it won't matter to you at all.

...And just to make you aware,I wasn't challenge on how you live the world...I actually pity you for such a man you are..a man whose heart and brain is on the tip of his penis!

Anyway enough for this, good luck and enjoy your kiddy days, just wait for the consequence of how you behave right now until you reach the age of REGRETS.

There is science behind what I'm saying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJhklPJz9U8

raynaputi
31st May 2014, 14:26
He is still a KID Rosie..and in the UK they said, LIFE STARTS AT 40.

I wouldn't say as much as I did before as there's no point of doing it at all. We'll just agree to disagree...in the end, he is what he is, what can we do?

Thanks anyway Cheshire Cheez for showing your real skin to us, not using a mask to cover your self up. Despite of this, I am and the rest of the women on this forum still won't agree with you as there's no such a thing as "other males competing to impregnate us", we are all monogamous....women here are clean and believed in the essence of HONESTY in a relationship. We love our husbands, so that work for us but since you are only marrying a girl for convenience, it won't matter to you at all.

...And just to make you aware,I wasn't challenge on how you live the world...I actually pity you for such a man you are..a man whose heart and brain is on the tip of his penis!

Anyway enough for this, good luck and enjoy your kiddy days, just wait for the consequence of how you behave right now until you reach the age of REGRETS.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

raynaputi
31st May 2014, 14:28
I wonder if some of the guys here would also help and give info to a Filipina who wants to get married to a British guy and say "I want to get married to my British BF and live in the UK. But I won't stop chatting up some guys in the dating sites because I can get more money from them and probably would eventually meet the better man."

I think not.

aprilmaejon
31st May 2014, 14:43
There is science behind what I'm saying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJhklPJz9U8

...are you HAPPY though? Feeling successful on what you do? Feeling self-actualised?

...you know what? there's a HAPPY MONOGAMOUS MARRIED WOMAN behind all these...even without basing on science and theories that you are talking about.

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 14:51
I wonder if some of the guys here would also help and give info to a Filipina who wants to get married to a British guy and say "I want to get married to my British BF and live in the UK. But I won't stop chatting up some guys in the dating sites because I can get more money from them and probably would eventually meet the better man."

I think not.

Just because there is no sexual exclusivity within my life, that doesn't mean I get the other things from a relationship from off of a lady I spend an evening with.

I don't know about you, but imagine you suddenly won the lottery, you won an incredible amount of money (and this goes to everyone else reading this). Your husband says we can afford a chef now, you don't need to clean for me; is that cheating? Your husband says we can afford a cleaner now, you don't need to do any more housework; is that cheating? Your husband says that he is speaking with a therapist to help with his stress, so you don't need to be the barer of his inner demons any longer; is that cheating?

The answer to all of these is clearly no. So why would it be cheating if your husband had some sexual desires that required a woman who wasn't you, but paid for it?

Isn't it better he doesn't have a relationship with these other women, but uses their services instead?

When I go to Pattaya, I'm not looking for a relationship. When I go to Las Vegas, I'm not looking for a relationship. The relationship is my comfortable place to call home, but sometimes you just need to go out and play.

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 15:03
...are you HAPPY though? Feeling successful on what you do? Feeling self-actualised?

...you know what? there's a HAPPY MONOGAMOUS MARRIED WOMAN behind all these...even without basing on science and theories that you are talking about.

Happiness is like the wind, it comes and goes.

I'm happy on a sunny day, eating an ice cream. I'm happy bouncing on the waves in a speedboat on the way to the Phi Phi islands and I'm happy falling asleep in a hotel room with a beautiful woman on each arm after an amazing night of sex.

Terpe
31st May 2014, 15:05
.... So why would it be cheating if your husband had some sexual desires that required a woman who wasn't you, but paid for it?

Isn't it better he doesn't have a relationship with these other women, but uses their services instead?

Somewhat pointless question as it depends on the sort of partner and relationship you have.
If one of the couple thinks it's 'cheating' then it is.

If there are no more comments about visa it's better to close this thread and start a new one ......

aprilmaejon
31st May 2014, 15:12
Somewhat pointless question as it depends on the sort of partner and relationship you have.
If one of the couple thinks it's 'cheating' then it is.

If there are no more comments about visa it's better to close this thread and start a new one ......

Best to delete this thread...

His name is famous here for having such an intellectual mind BUT TWISTED...and women here perhaps won't give him any help on the visa...

fred
31st May 2014, 15:14
Just because there is no sexual exclusivity within my life, that doesn't mean I get the other things from a relationship from off of a lady I spend an evening with.

I don't know about you, but imagine you suddenly won the lottery, you won an incredible amount of money (and this goes to everyone else reading this). Your husband says we can afford a chef now, you don't need to clean for me; is that cheating? Your husband says we can afford a cleaner now, you don't need to do any more housework; is that cheating? Your husband says that he is speaking with a therapist to help with his stress, so you don't need to be the barer of his inner demons any longer; is that cheating?

The answer to all of these is clearly no. So why would it be cheating if your husband had some sexual desires that required a woman who wasn't you, but paid for it?

Isn't it better he doesn't have a relationship with these other women, but uses their services instead?

When I go to Pattaya, I'm not looking for a relationship. When I go to Las Vegas, I'm not looking for a relationship. The relationship is my comfortable place to call home, but sometimes you just need to go out and play.

What about your Mrs? Does she/will she have equal rights like a local call boy for a bit of fun after getting a bit bored of you every other night?
I`m not trying to be sarky.. A genuine question.
A guy I once worked with admitted to us that he and his Mrs were part of a swinger group. There were pretty strict rules in regards honesty etc and he made out that he was happy with the arrangement.. The problems started when we started the country wide shop fitting contracts...He was constantly on his mobile checking up on her.. He said that he trusted her but I dont think he did..
The marriage was doomed and the experiment went pear shaped once his Mrs had fallen for one of the other married men.. He was pretty much inconsolable.
A proper train wreck that was.

joebloggs
31st May 2014, 15:24
When I go to Pattaya, I'm not looking for a relationship. When I go to Las Vegas, I'm not looking for a relationship. The relationship is my comfortable place to call home, but sometimes you just need to go out and play.

well if your that honest on here and I hope you don't lie on any visa application, you can pretty much :Wave: any visa goodbye, one of the few reasons they can refuse a family permit is , if they think the relationship is not genuine and its a Marriage of convenience', a sham or it's not a durable’ relationship:NoNo:.

have you sponsored anyone before for a visa :Erm:

Cheshire Cheez
31st May 2014, 15:48
What about your Mrs? Does she/will she have equal rights like a local call boy for a bit of fun after getting a bit bored of you every other night?
I`m not trying to be sarky.. A genuine question.
A guy I once worked with admitted to us that he and his Mrs were part of a swinger group. There were pretty strict rules in regards honesty etc and he made out that he was happy with the arrangement.. The problems started when we started the country wide shop fitting contracts...He was constantly on his mobile checking up on her.. He said that he trusted her but I dont think he did..
The marriage was doomed and the experiment went pear shaped once his Mrs had fallen for one of the other married men.. He was pretty much inconsolable.
A proper train wreck that was.

Wouldn't have an issue if Angela went for a massage and got a happy ending if that's what you're asking.



well if your that honest on here and I hope you don't lie on any visa application, you can pretty much :Wave: any visa goodbye, one of the few reasons they can refuse a family permit is , if they think the relationship is not genuine and its a Marriage of convenience', a sham or it's not a durable’ relationship:NoNo:.

have you sponsored anyone before for a visa :Erm:

I kind of sponsored Lek for her visa. It's all a bit complicated, but I got her employed through a friend some years back in a position that granted a visa. Though I think the rules have changed since.

Terpe
31st May 2014, 16:10
closed