On reading here I notice that if you have a copy of your old passport

[Jonpotter]

Hello

I hope all is well with you all

On reading here I notice that if you have a copy of your old passport (along with her new one) with the visa on it and the CFO stamp as well, then if my wife flew back with these papers of proof, they would let her into the UK and she could come back home again, but I must stress here that they are only photo copies

Is that correct?

Thanks

[Terpe]

Jonpotter, your question has already been answered under my post #8 in your previous thread under the same subject here here (http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/53191-Just-call-me-JP-please-Thanks)

Unless the UK Entry rules have recently changed it's not normally possible to use photocopy for travel.

You and/or your wife need to contact the British Embassy with your supporting documents and apply for replacement asap

[Jonpotter]

Hello Moderator,

Thank you for your help again.

Upon looking at the link you posted on my page here
I must confess, I am confused with all this information this link has.

I would like to cut the chase and go directly to the part where it points to exactly where it says about getting an emergency clearance visa at the British Embassy in Manila so that my wife can go by getting an appointment date to visit and that is approved by the visa staff there. Can this be done or does she have start all over again from the beginning that we did a few years ago?

[raynaputi]

Reposting what Terpe posted in the other thread.


ECB17.2 Replacing a visa (or leave)

If the applicant loses or has their passport and visa stolen, we are issuing a replacement visa (or leave) leave and the full fee is required. If the applicant applies for a replacement visa (or leave) you will need to see a police report or other evidence that satisfactorily establishes that the passport is no longer in their possession This also applies if an applicant had ‘leave to remain’ granted in the UK and are now applying to have it replaced overseas. If required, you may ask for supporting documentation to establish that their circumstances have not changed. ECOs may need to refer to Evidence and Enquiry to obtain information on an applicant’s leave validity granted in the UK.

In the case of the loss of a Home Office travel document the ECO may have to consider issuing a UFF.

See ECB8.13.10 (https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/entry-clearance-basics-entry-clearance-guidance) for further information.

A new CAS / COS is not necessary in an application to replace any leave granted under PBS.

For replacement visas / leave, PROVISO case notes and other records must be updated to take account of the lost or stolen passport and visa.

You need to contact UKVI

(https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi/visas-and-settlement)

or the British Embassy in Manila

(https://ukvi-international.faq-help.com)

to clarify what process you need to do.

[Jonpotter]

Thank you Raynaputi

Let me get this straight
Does this mean we have to start all over again from the beginning

With producing all the same documents, papers, bank statements, sitting for the English test again ,Proof of my income, proof of my home proof of my council taxes proof of everything copy my passport copy any other documents that they ask for?
So the 3 years and the 2 years that we have lived together mean nothing to them and the very fact that we had already paid almost the one thousand pounds for the visa, All this and more is of no use to them, Ok go and slap my face and hopefully I will wake up and find out this just a dream.

Am I right this is what they want?

Three years gone down the drain
All for nothing
What is wrong with these border people?
Totally inhuman, is what I say

Quick tell me this not true

[raynaputi]

If you will call the UKVI (I provided the link above), they will be able to tell you what things you needed. I'm honestly not sure what they will ask you to provide. But again, read the ones written below and it says there what may be requested from you and your wife. CALL THE UKVI FOR MORE INFO NEEDED ASAP.


If the applicant applies for a replacement visa (or leave) you will need to see a police report or other evidence that satisfactorily establishes that the passport is no longer in their possession. This also applies if an applicant had ‘leave to remain’ granted in the UK and are now applying to have it replaced overseas. If required, you may be ask for supporting documentation to establish that their circumstances have not changed. ECOs may need to refer to Evidence and Enquiry to obtain information on an applicant’s leave validity granted in the UK.

[Terpe]

Thank you raynaputi

Let e get this straight
Does this mean we have to start all over again from the beginning

With producing all the same documents, papers, bank statements, sitting for the English test again ,Proof of my income, proof of my home proof of my council taxes proof of everything copy my passport copy any other documents that they ask for?
So the 3 years and the 2 years that we have lived together mean nothing to them and the very fact that we had already paid almost the one thousand pounds for the visa, All this and more is of no use to them, Ok go and slap my face and hopefully I will wake up and find out this just a dream.

Am I right this is what they want?

Three years gone down the drain
All for nothing
What is wrong with these border people?
Totally inhuman, is what I say

Quick tell me this not true

Read the statements.
Contact UKVI
You'll then understand how to replace the ILR visa

[Jonpotter]

Thanks very much for your help

How do we contact the UKVI directly?

JP

[Jonpotter]

We looked at the site thanks, and saw this:

We will require the GWF number allocated to you during the application process and your date of birth to provide this service.

What does GWF mean?

[Jonpotter]

The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search:
GWF

There is no meaning for this on this site or the Home Office site and yet they ask me this question

Do you know what it means?

[grahamw48]

I just googled.

From the UKVI website....

'When you save or submit your online application form, we will send a confirmation email to the email address that you supplied in your application security details. This email will contain a unique reference number (known as a GWF).
You should make a note of your GWF. You will need it to log in and access your saved form. We will not be able to assist you if you do not know your GWF.
If you do not receive your confirmation email, please check that:



you have given us your correct email address, and
the message is not in the spam or junk folders in your mailbox'.

---------------------

Still don't know what GWF actually stands for, but you need to check your old emails from UKVI ref. your original visa application.

It (the number) will be on there.

[Arthur Little]

The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search:
GWF

There is no meaning for this on this site or the Home Office site and yet they ask me this question.

Do you know what it means?

:iagree: ... having checked the Internet for the meaning of the initials GWF on your behalf, I've also, unfortunately, drawn a blank. :icon_sorry:

Seems as though it must be some sort of 'Unique Reference Number' used by - and known only to - UKVI.

Hopefully someone else can clarify. :smile:

[Arthur Little]

Btw ... :welcomex: to filipino/uk ... and good luck in resolving your current issues. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jonpotter]

Thanks Arthur

We were going to phone today but it's a public holiday here in the Philippines, and they have a lot of them

Now why don't we have more public holidays in the UK too? :smile:

[Jonpotter]

You should make a note of your GWF. You will need it to log in and access your saved form. We will not be able to assist you if you do not know your GWF.
If you do not receive your confirmation email, please check that:


Thanks Graham.

What you wrote here makes some sense to me.

[grahamw48]

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

See if you can find any old forms, or copies of, from the original application too...GWF may be on those.

Note to everyone:

ALWAYS scan/copy all your application correspondence and important travel docs...including VISA page and keep for future reference. Store in different places. :smile:

[Jonpotter]

Hello all

Thanks Graham, for your tips. We are trying now to find the old papers from about 3 1/2 years ago

http://www.vfsglobal.co.uk/philippines/know_your_visa_type.html

We found this link above.
KNOW YOUR VISA TYPE

Then we went to this site:

https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-abode/apply-for-a-certificate-of-entitlement

Then one above says: Prove you have right of abode in the UK
==============================
Apply outside the UK

A certificate of entitlement costs £289 outside the UK.

You must apply online unless you’re from:

So we skip this one

Cuba
North Korea
Zimbabwe
============================
We come to this site; https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa

Now it says this;

Apply for a UK visa

You can apply online for a UK visa to visit, work, study or join a family member or partner (eg spouse) already in the UK.

You must apply in person if you’re from Cuba or North Korea.

You can also use the new beta service if you’re in China and applying for a general, child or business visitor visa.

We start now

Next page is this: https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/

Welcome to Visa4UK

The official UK website for online visa applications, for applicants not in the United Kingdom.

Now it says, Register an Account

Are we at the correct page now before we register?
Please we would appreciate your help too

Regards

BTW We did call the helpline but I am afraid it is not a very good connection out here in the Phils most of it was garble.

[grahamw48]

Jon, as none of us have been in your (and your wife's) situation, you will need to phone UKVI and ask their advice, as indicated in previous posts...or go to the British Embassy.

[sars_notd_virus]

Hello Moderator,


Can this be done or does she have start all over again from the beginning that we did a few years ago?


We looked at the site thanks, and saw this:

We will require the GWF number allocated to you during the application process and your date of birth to provide this service.



Have you get in touch with UKVI through email?

If the visa is issued years ago then you will not have the GWF number
but
you have the REFERENCE number ??

The reference number should be in one of your email before they sent out the passport and visa back to the applicant.
If you don't have it then you should report it to the British Embassy on the day you lost it; so they have the report and nobody use that unique visa number.

[Jonpotter]

or go to the British Embassy.

Thank you Graham.

Now this is an interesting comment of yours. A question here:

How can we get into the Embassy and ask them to see us on a emergency without appointment or where is there link to this effect?

Phew one page leads to another then it is back at the 1st page again. God, I could scream but I've got to laugh lol

[grahamw48]

Just google it. :smile:
.
http://united-kingdom.visahq.co.uk/embassy/philippines/

They also have a Facebook page (British Embassy Manila).

[Jonpotter]

Hello Grahamw48

Thanks for this link we will check this one out too :smile:


Just google it.
.
http://united-kingdom.visahq.co.uk/embassy/philippines/

They also have a Facebook page (British Embassy Manila).
This is a copy of the letter=email that my wife sent to the Embassy here in the Phils

Dear Sir/Madam,

May I inform your good office that I am stranded here in the Philippines without a valid visa upon my new passport
My first passport with a reference number,XX/////////// on it was lost with attached valid visa for (3) years with YAF. no. 1>>< I get a new passport in Central London with my married name upon it
Me and my Husband J P of North London ::England
We had planned to apply a new visa to attach in my new passport

But a certain circumstances came and i need to go home in the Philippines for an Emergency without knowing that I need to get a travel document. but I need to see my brother that is too ill before anything will happen like what my other brother too. I didn't attend his funeral and burial,.at the same time I visited his graveyard too to give a respect. Now that everything is okay here with my brother and he is getting well and feel good as well as my family.so I need to go back home in UK where my husband is.

I want to be with him,he wants my attention too.and so do i.and i need to go home as soon as possible.my return ticket will be on the 8th of September 2014.that is why i need a Travel Documents show to the immigration that i can go back home to UK again.
and i want to know where to go and what kind of application form i need to fill - up so i can travel back to UK where my husband is waiting for me.

I do have all the Documents to comply and to show in your good office; as follow Marriage Certificate,old passport copy,new passport,photo copy of my C.F.O Certificate copy of my visa valid for (3) years,Birth Certificate,and married Certificate...and some pictures to prove that i am already been there for almost (23) months.


I am hoping for your Immediate response regarding this matter.


Sincerely Yours,
Mrs M J P


Here is their reply

Thank you for contacting Visa4UK Support.

You may be able to find your answer in one of the FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) at this link: www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/Home/ViewFAQ . If the answer to your query is held in the FAQs you will not receive a further response from this email address.

Having looked at this link the embassy staff sent us
I for the life of me cannot see anything that is remotely connected with her questions of help from the said embassy

So what can we do now with a situation like this and where do we go now?
We are really up against a very thick brick wall here and we cannot get any help fro the very people that should and must help my wife to be able to come back home again

Of course my wife should have been more careful with her 1st passport
But this won’t help us now

Thanks for reading this

[Jonpotter]

Jon, as none of us have been in your (and your wife's) situation, you will need to phone UKVI and ask their advice, as indicated in previous posts...or go to the British Embassy.

Hello Graham,

Can we just walk up to their front and ask to be let in to tell them about our problem?

Having looked around the Embassy's websites for the life of me, I could not find a link to be able to book appointment to see them about this matter. Of course, the only other alternative is for us to camp outside the gates until they do let us in :Brick:

[fred]

.

Hello grahamw48
Can we just walk up to their front and ask to be let in to tell them about our problem?
Having looked around the embassy's websites the life of me. I could find a link to be able to book appointment to see them about this matter of course the only other alternative is for us to camp outside the gates until they do let us in :Brick:

That's probably your best bet. (camping out)

I've fired off emails to them non stop and all I seem to get are these stupid emails with rather silly links that do not answer my questions.

Getting a real person on the end of a telephone is all rather old fashioned and dull these days it seems.

Personally, I would really love to smack them over the head with their useless "links"..

If they were heavier.

[Jonpotter]

Personally,I would really love to smack them over the head with their useless "links"..
If they were heavier. :smile:

Thanks Fred for that support and we will give them a few links of our own when we see them?

The only thing that worries me is that they might have us shot for being terrorists?

[raynaputi]

You can call the British Embassy.


Out-of-hours emergency assistance

British nationals who urgently require consular assistance outside normal office hours should call +63 2 858 2200 where they will be given details on how to proceed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-manila (https://www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-manila)

[Jonpotter]

British nationals who urgently require consular assistance outside normal office hours should call +63 2 858 2200 where they will be given details on how to proceed.

Thanks Raynaputi

It's not me that needs the help. It's for my wife and she is a Filipino so maybe they won't help her?

What do you think?

[raynaputi]

Thanks Raynaputi

It's not me that needs the help. It's for my wife and she is a Filipino so maybe they won't help her?

What do you think?

Just call them, no harm done. And it's better if you're the one who would talk to them, at least you can explain everything as clear as you want. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jonpotter]

Just call them, no harm done. And it's better if you're the one who would talk to them, at least you can explain everything as clear as you want.

Thanks Rayna, I will do just that

[Jonpotter]

Just call them, no harm done. And it's better if you're the one who would talk to them, at least you can explain everything as clear as you want.

Hello Rayna,

Well, we did call them 7 times and all we got was an answering machine.

Go to

www.gov.uk/visa-immigration. It's the same old story with the same old run-a-round and getting nowhere fast No human voice at the end of the line to talk to. I really don't know why they bother to have this emergency phone line ? :Brick: I know our situation is out of the ordinary every day visa enquiry.

God I've never felt so lonely before when being out of the UK travelling around the world as I have. With most embassies I've been in contact were a lot easier to communicate than the one we are trying here.
You see if we fill in the wrong form and pay that fee that is required? we will never get that money back and we will still don't know where to go from here and the problem we are having trying to get some information on the correct application form with the correct number of that form so we can fill in and just get on with it. The trouble is that I have to be back at work soon and they will not extend my emergency leave any longer Thanks all for your help

[grahamw48]

Keep phoning Jon.

[Abigail]

Have you tried calling the Filipino embassy in the UK, they might be able to answer some questions or at least tell you where to try asking?

London 0044 207 451 1780
Edinburgh 0044 131 453 3222

[raynaputi]

Have you tried calling the Filipino embassy in the UK, they might be able to answer some questions or at least tell you where to try asking?

London 0044 207 451 1780
Edinburgh 0044 131 453 3222

Calling the Philippine Embassy will be of no use since the problem is her visa and not the passport.

[Abigail]

Yes, but they may be aware of someone having had a similar problem in the past and know how they managed to solve it. In my work I am used to dealing with visas and speaking to the Embassies, and to be honest, you will never manage to speak to a human being by trying to call a British Embassy. The Philippine Embassies here in the UK will at least answer your call and try to help you. Or, as I say, if they cannot help they will often point you in the right direction.

Another idea is to find a visa agency and pay them for advice but this is an expensive option. Or the Citizens advice here in the UK can often offer advice on this kind of situation as well.

[Jonpotter]

Calling the Philippine Embassy will be of no use since the problem is her visa and not the passport.

Hello Rayna

You are right they cannot help us

[sars_notd_virus]

Hello Rayna

Well, we did call them 7 times and all we got was answering machine.

What numbers are you calling?? I want to make sure we are calling the same numbers as it is not an answering machine I spoke with 20 minutes ago :Erm:

I managed to get hold of one of the advisers but I don't want to be charged for my inquiry.

[Jonpotter]

Hello Sars



What numbers are you calling?? I want to make sure we are calling the same numbers as it is not an answering machine I spoke with 20 minutes ago

This number below
Out-of-hours emergency assistance

British nationals who urgently require Consular assistance outside normal office hours should call +63 2 858 2200 where they will be given details on how to proceed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-manila


What number was it that you called?

Thanks

[sars_notd_virus]

Hello Sars



This number below
Out-of-hours emergency assistance

British nationals who urgently require Consular assistance outside normal office hours should call +63 2 858 2200 where they will be given details on how to proceed.

https://www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-manila


What number was it that you called?

Thanks

https://ukvi-international.faq-help.com/

Contact UK Visas and Immigration from outside the UK
Philippines Telephone

Opening times: 9.00am - 5.00pm (Philippine time)

You can call us on:

00 44 1243 217 890

If you would prefer to dial a UK number direct please call:

00 44 1243 218 104

This is a paid service and there is a cost of £1.37 UK Sterling per minute in addition to your standard network charges.

[Jonpotter]

You can call us on:

00 44 1243 217 890

If you would prefer to dial a UK number direct please call:

00 44 1243 218 104

This is a paid service and there is a cost of £1.37 UK Sterling per minute in addition to your standard network charg

Thanks Sars

I'm sick of these numbers now. So we wrote to them as well This was over a week ago, well past their sell by date as we still have not heard a peep out of them.

If you care to look back at some of my earlier post I mentioned it before too.

We have looked around their websites for the UK Border Agency and cannot find a form that is there. All we need to know is exactly which application form it is so that we can complete?

I've only got a week more to go before I have to come back to the UK and I am afraid of how my wife will cope with seeing me leave her here behind?

Thanks again all for your help.

[raynaputi]

Try contacting your MP and tell him/her about your situation. That may speed up whatever the process you need.

[Jonpotter]

Try contacting your MP and tell him/her about your situation. That may speed up whatever the process you need.

Hello Rayna. Thanks I will do just that.

[Jonpotter]

Hello all

I did try to contact my MP

Mrs Theresa Villiers, House of Commons, London SW1A 0AA
www.theresavilliers.co.uk

Totally useless, she (her security officer) just told me to go to the UK Border website and put the phone down.

I think the UK government is having an anti immigration moment these days...

I have to leave here and travel back to the UK on Saturday 16th Aug. If we can't get into the Embassy or hear from them by then?

I don't know what else we can do?
JP

[Jonpotter]

Hello all

After trying everything in the book and many other ways to get some attention to our plight to draw some advice and guidance from the UK Border Agency Sites and also your help here, thanks :smile:

Starting tomorrow morning my wife and I will be standing outside the British Embassy in Manila.

We are planning to be there every day this week from Monday 11th until Friday 15th August. If we can't get in to see them by then???

But I do know that I have to leave here by the 16th August to fly back to the UK

Thanks again for this sounding board up here on your notice wall.

Of course we will keep you all up to date.

Bye for now

[Terpe]

Hello all

After trying everything in the book and many other ways to get some attention to our plight to draw some advice and guidance from the UK Border Agency Sites and also your help here, thanks :smile:

Starting tomorrow morning my wife and I will be standing outside the British Embassy in Manila.

We are planning to be there every day this week from Monday11th until Friday 15th August. If we can't get in to see them by then???

But I do know that I have to leave here by the 16th August to fly back to the UK

Thanks again for this sounding board up here on your notice wall.

Of course we will keep you all up to date.

Bye for now

Why haven't you tried to book an appointment?

Here's a link to start you off for the online appointment system for Consular services (https://britishembassymanila.clickbook.net/sub/britishembassymanila)

and a useful extract:-



If you require an urgent appointment, we will need to receive evidence supporting your request, i.e. valid flight ticket showing travel, etc. Please send an email to cons.manila@fco.gov.uk for any questions.

[Jonpotter]

Hello Moderator.

Thank you for this information in regards to making an appointment.

We were there on Monday, could not get in to see anyone. Then Tuesday - with no joy - and on Wednesday the staff were all at a meeting, so it is back again tomorrow, Thursday!

A bit down!
JP

[Jonpotter]

Hello,

Thursday and Friday were no go at the Embassy.

Anyway in a few short hours from now I will take the flight back to the UK.

Thought to let you know

If there is anything more to say?

JP

[Dedworth]

Have a good flight

[grahamw48]

You can expect the compassionate UKVI to ask you why you don't move out to the Phils to be with your wife...rather than bothering to simply check her visa status on their computer and then sending her a copy of it to stick in her new passport. :NoNo:

[Terpe]

If there is anything more to say?

JP

Yes. Why didn't you book an appointment?

It's been 3 weeks since your first post.

[Jonpotter]

Thanks all

I am now back in the UK minus my wife
It was not nice to leave her at the gates to say the least

We stood outside every day sometimes in the pouring rain as you know how heavy this can be?
No matter how much we knocked upon their door, they would not open it to even come out and see us.
Well, what can I say to this?
I'm not asking for your pity or sympathy
I just wanted some help to understand all this rigor-moulds

Anyway what is done is done and no use of crying over spilt milk will help me now

About moving to the Philippines, it's an idea :smile:


Yes. Why didn't you book an appointment?

It's been 3 weeks since your first post.

To tell you something moderator, I notice that you only posted that link of yours the other day. 1 week ago, by then it was too late for us. Appointments take up to 2 weeks at least to be seen by the staff at the Embassy as I had noticed this from their website.

[Michael Parnham]

Hi Jon, sorry to read what's happened the past couple of weeks or so, What do you propose to do next? :Erm:

[Jonpotter]

Hi Jon, sorry to read what's happened the past couple of weeks or so, What do you propose to do next?

I really don't know what to do next
I am in a sort of a shock over all these experiences of these last few weeks

[Michael Parnham]

My suggestion would be now you're here in the UK, is to get in touch with the Home Office or get an Immigration Solicitor to put your case forward. Don't know if anyone has any other ideas.

Whatever you do, good luck! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jonpotter]

My suggestion would be now you're here in the UK, is to get in touch with the Home Office or get an Immigration Solicitor to put your case forward. Don't know if anyone has any other ideas.

Whatever you do, good luck!

Thank you Michael

I think it looks like we may have to do and fill in all the same application forms again?

I am not completely sure, as I've not heard from my enquiries as to which forms we need to complete this time?

My experiences are that they do not reply to you as a human being, it's all machines at the border agency these days...headwall-banging stuff
JP

[Michael Parnham]

Get sorted Jon, you and your other half need to be together and you can do it! :xxgrinning--00xx3: