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KeithD
23rd August 2014, 10:43
While the EU spends endless times sorting out the power of our vacuum cleaners (http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/53525-The-EU-Is-Reducing-Your-Suction-From-September-2014), the motor industry is still allowed to mislead the public, as has done since the dawn of the car.

When I bought my last car, Renault Grand Scenic, the official mileage was 60mpg combined. As I live in the countryside, it should be better than that. I actually get 46mpg! When I check the real mpg sites, that is about right.

Having just ordered a Citreon Grand Picasso, they quote 70mpg, but the actual mpg state 55mpg.

So, when is the EU going to clamp down on this obvious form of misleading advertising? :Erm:

grahamw48
23rd August 2014, 10:50
Too busy working out ways of claiming more expenses and free holidays ? :mad:

stevewool
23rd August 2014, 11:30
Hay ho, its one of life's mysteries

Dedworth
23rd August 2014, 12:13
EU or not these figures always need to be taken with a pinch of salt as the testing is done in almost laboratory conditions. Its foolish to make anything of them other than that the motor will return x amount more or less than a competitors product that you are considering

http://www.which.co.uk/cars/choosing-a-car/how-we-test-cars/how-we-test-mpg/

Buy a Dacia Duster -Renault built by Roma 56mpg £15000 you'll have plenty left to spend on juice :biggrin:

grahamw48
23rd August 2014, 12:19
I can do 70 miles on my pushbike for nowt...and get a free ride home in the Coroner's van.

stevewool
23rd August 2014, 12:38
I can do 70 miles on my pushbike for nowt...and get a free ride home in the Coroner's van.

:laugher::laugher::laugher::laugher::laugher:

Terpe
23rd August 2014, 12:53
I'm satisfied if I can get 20mpg

stevewool
23rd August 2014, 13:07
38mpg for me , if i had a diesel engine car it would be 100 ltrs a month free, how many miles would that give me :Erm:

Dedworth
23rd August 2014, 13:10
38mpg for me , if i had a diesel engine car it would be 100 ltrs a month free, how many miles would that give me :Erm:

100 litres is 22 gallons so say 45mpg would be 990 miles

stevewool
23rd August 2014, 13:15
100 litres is 22 gallons so say 45mpg would be 990 miles

its better to sell it and keep my old car

fred
23rd August 2014, 15:34
I find all this very confusing. Gallons,Liters,Miles,Kilometers,Diesel,Unleaded..
All I know is that I bought a new Suzuki 1.6 APV and it does about 30km less on a 1000Pesos as a 1996 2.5 diesel.
Very disappointing to be fair.

fred
23rd August 2014, 16:12
38mpg for me , if i had a diesel engine car it would be 100 ltrs a month free, how many miles would that give me :Erm:

I do about 170 KM on a 1000 pesos of unleaded which is about 62 pesos per liter..
So how many miles is that per UK gallon?
My head hurts!!

Michael Parnham
23rd August 2014, 16:34
I get 55mpg local and if I use motorway I often get 65+ on one occasion I managed 86mpg, I never exceed speed limits and drive smoothly not slowly, remember as a truck driver for many years I was using 16 speed gearboxes and learnt lots of ways to save fuel and brakes!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

grahamw48
23rd August 2014, 17:06
I find all this very confusing. Gallons,Liters,Miles,Kilometers,Diesel,Unleaded..
All I know is that I bought a new Suzuki 1.6 APV and it does about 30km less on a 1000Pesos as a 1996 2.5 diesel.
Very disappointing to be fair.

Not overloading it are you Fred ? :biggrin:

.

SimonH
23rd August 2014, 20:32
I do about 170 KM on a 1000 pesos of unleaded which is about 62 pesos per liter..
So how many miles is that per UK gallon?
My head hurts!!

Very roughly, 170 Km is just over 100 miles
1000 divided by 62 is about 16
16 litres is just under 4 gallons
100 divided by just under 4 is roughly 28?

So I recon about 28 miles to the gallon, someone will get a calculator out soon to prove me wrong though :biggrin:

fred
23rd August 2014, 22:55
Very roughly, 170 Km is just over 100 miles
1000 divided by 62 is about 16
16 litres is just under 4 gallons
100 divided by just under 4 is roughly 28?

So I recon about 28 miles to the gallon, someone will get a calculator out soon to prove me wrong though :biggrin:

thanks..
That is absolutely terrible news..

fred
23rd August 2014, 22:56
Not overloading it are you Fred ? :biggrin:

.

No Graham.. But I do overload the A/C.. Perhaps thats why.

grahamw48
23rd August 2014, 23:43
Get it checked Fred.

I persuaded my mate to take one of his TVRs to the rolling road.

It turns out it was 85bhp down on power, and drinking the juice.

Took a matter of minutes for the operator to find and remove the piece of air filter that had come off and almost completely blocked the inlet, plus a few other minor tweaks to restore to full health. :smile:

Not sure how new your vehicle is, but often these modern engines are very 'tight' when new, so may use more fuel for the first few 1,000 miles (one like that would also tend to run a bit hot though).

fred
24th August 2014, 01:07
Get it checked Fred.

I persuaded my mate to take one of his TVRs to the rolling road.

It turns out it was 85bhp down on power, and drinking the juice.

Took a matter of minutes for the operator to find and remove the piece of air filter that had come off and almost completely blocked the inlet, plus a few other minor tweaks to restore to full health. :smile:

Not sure how new your vehicle is, but often these modern engines are very 'tight' when new, so may use more fuel for the first few 1,000 miles (one like that would also tend to run a bit hot though).

Will do Graham..Soon due for its second free service..I`ll get them to check it then.

grahamw48
24th August 2014, 09:32
:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Good luck mate.

Any new 1600cc vehicle , petrol or diesel can be expected to do a minimum 35 mpg these days I'd say, and that would be when booting it.

eddiek
26th August 2014, 22:40
i get 52.3 mpg on average out of a 2.0 turbo diesel, medium segment vehicle.

i drive the car v hard, and it still returns this fantastic figure.

75% of my journeys are around town, with average speed = approx. 25mph!
:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Dedworth
24th September 2014, 12:13
Revealed: The car makers' 'tricks' to boost their MPG claims that leave drivers forking out up to £400 more every year for petrol

Manipulated tests include running cars on over-inflated tyres and taping up gaps in bodywork (to reduce drag)
They are also said to cut weight and using special lubricants to increase distance covered on single gallon of fuel
European consumer body BEUC carried out independent tests


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2766915/Revealed-The-car-makers-tricks-boost-MPG-claims-leave-drivers-forking-400-year-petrol.html#ixzz3EEIWEovn
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grahamw48
24th September 2014, 12:19
I've always just assumed that anyone trying to sell me something is a lying :censored:. :anerikke:

That's why I read the reviews in car mags, etc.

les_taxi
24th September 2014, 13:48
I should be able to charge extra when I get 4 Bloaters in the car :icon_lol: