I'd prop up Cameron in government... but only if we can vote on leaving the EU next year, says Nigel

[joebloggs]

As Cameron said, go to bed with Farage and you wake up with Cameron :cwm24:


UKIP would demand an in-out referendum on the EU as the price for propping up a Tory government next year, Nigel Farage revealed today.


Read more here ......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790052/i-d-prop-cameron-government-vote-leaving-eu-year-says-nigel-farage-ukip-surges-25-shock-opinion-poll.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790052/i-d-prop-cameron-government-vote-leaving-eu-year-says-nigel-farage-ukip-surges-25-shock-opinion-poll.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)

[les_taxi]

Perfect combination for me - Tory/UKIP - bang on! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Dedworth]

I see the vile Umunna is trotting out the party line :-

Labour rising star Chuka Umunna says, "Of course there are racists in UKIP"

[stevewool]

I watched Mr Farage on TV today and he does come across quite well. If I did vote, he would get mine.

[les_taxi]

"of course there are racists in UKIP"

Yes, you beat me to mentioning that Dedworth :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I'd like to 'Chuka' to lions :biggrin:

[Dedworth]

I love the way Milibands Marxists are now coming out with: "Foreign criminals wont be allowed into the UK", "deport those who commit crimes", "no benefits if they haven't paid into it"

Ms Harman said her party shared public unease about the impact of immigration on UK workers' pay and pressure on public services.

They'll be losing all their voters :biggrin:

Lets hear Andys steer on this - stench of hypocrisy or what :icon_lol:it was only a few years ago Bottler Brown was outraged by the bigoted woman

[joebloggs]

Labour rising star Chuka Umunna says 'of course there are racists in UKIP'

not just her. but even the Tories says that :xxgrinning--00xx3:..

Jeremy Hunt- Ukip attracts racists
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614587/Ukip-attracts-racists-claims-Tory-minister-Hunt-fury-poll-shows-Farage-set-win-EU-election.html

Heseltine - Heseltine warns Tories on links to 'racist' UKIP
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24349159

Cameron
David Cameron: UKIP 'A Bunch Of Fruitcakes, Loonies And Closet Racists'
https://audioboom.com/boos/1079562-david-cameron-ukip-a-bunch-of-fruitcakes-loonies-and-closet-racists

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-27611960

[les_taxi]

Yep I remember all that Joe but I care not Tory/Ukip best of both worlds:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ako Si Jamie]

Labour rising star Chuka Umunna says 'of course there are racists in UKIP'Racists are ignorant, and ironically, so is this statement.

[Pete/London]

I watched Mr Farage on tv today and he does come across quite well, if i did vote he would get mine,

Yes, I watched being interviewed by Andrew Neil and thought he made some good points and did not evade any questions.

[London_Manila]

Surely Cameron is out of touch with the British public :Erm:

He promises to give you a vote on Europe but he is keen we stay in it

[London_Manila]

I see the vile Umunna is trotting out the party line :-

Labour rising star Chuka Umunna says 'of course there are racists in UKIP'

About as appealing as Harriet Harman and Ed Balls :wink:

[les_taxi]

He promises to give you a vote on Europe but he is keen we stay in it
Yes but thats ok with me-he wants us to stay in but promises to give us a vote-thats what the public want:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andy222]

Dream on blue rinses the tories wont get in and you know it. I see our 40% share in Eurostar is up for sale. Thats is another service we will not have any say in where the price is concerned. Sell off tories do not do any good for this country. The question is what do we own now?. Now there are midwives striking for decent pay. The first time in history.

[les_taxi]

Luckily the public know labour would wreck the economy as they did before so I don't think they will get in now. Lost your lead in polls I notice lol.As for midwife's what do they earn Andy?
I'm definitely not tooting my horn in support!

[les_taxi]

Midwife's wage start at £21, 000 after experience £35,000
After that as consultants up to £60,000
Gutted for them!

[KeithD]

Racism in all parties.

Tory: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-69970/Racism-row-hits-Tory-leadership-battle.html

Labour: http://cifwatch.com/2014/09/24/guardian-silent-about-labour-candidates-suspension-for-racist-tweets/

Once they have sorted out themselves, they can then have a go at UKIP. Until then they are just being two-faced. :action-smiley-081:

[les_taxi]

Yes in every party there is bad eggs nothing new there.

[KeithD]

Cameron will sack underperforming heads and governors in the schools if he wins the next election. If it is so important to education, why hasn't he already done it? Idiot :action-smiley-081: :NoNo:

[joebloggs]

Yes in every party there is bad eggs nothing new there.

:icon_lol:you know UKIP have problems when the Tories are calling them racists

UKIP has more bad eggs than any other party :NoNo:

[les_taxi]

I don't care about the bad eggs. Just don't want to see a immature hopeless idiot like milliband running this country into the ground. Promising pay rises for all when the only way he could do it is borrow til we bust.
He is the tories greatest weapon tho and thank god there has not been a labour leadership challenge.

[joebloggs]

and what experience has farage :cwm25: tell me les , i wait your reply:wink:

Cameron's doing a good job as you know midwives are on strike , first time ever :NoNo:

do you spend hours working for nothing les ??

[KeithD]

.... borrow til we bust......

Erm... we are bust now. The Tories have borrowed more than Labour :doh Now Cameron wants to sell off another crown jewel in the Euro Tunnel, probably at a 50% discount like the Royal Mail :crazy:. The deficit is running at an all time high, and people classed in poverty continues to rise. Mid you, the good news is the rich have bee getting richer. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[les_taxi]

Easy Farage will push the tories to the right more. I'm all for that.
Midwife's starting salary is £22,000 rising to £34,000 when experienced
top midwife's advisers etc on £60,000
Funniest bit is about me I sit for ages without work sometimes, I can work all day for £50 gross sometimes
which is below minimum wage.
But since I work lots of hours often 7 days a week I earn decent money in the end
you never here me complain about my hours or no pay rise for a couple of years.

[les_taxi]

Erm... we are bust now. The Tories have borrowed more than Labour :doh Now Cameron wants to sell off another crown jewel in the Euro Tunnel, probably at a 50% discount like the Royal Mail :crazy:. The deficit is running at an all time high, and people classed in poverty continues to rise. Mid you, the good news is the rich have bee getting richer. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

All thanks to the previous government!

[les_taxi]

Some of you on here have no grasp of basic economics. Labour left us with the biggest deficit ever yet you still blame this government.

[les_taxi]

Keith give me all your cash and car and credit cards! I will spend everything, max out your cards. Then in a few years time I will have a go at you for having no money to spend.

[joebloggs]

Easy Farage will push the tories to the right more. I'm all for that.
Midwife's starting salary is £22,000 rising to £34,000 when experienced
top midwife's advisers etc on £60,000
Funniest bit is about me I sit for ages without work sometimes, I can work all day for £50 gross sometimes
which is below minimum wage.
But since I work lots of hours often 7 days a week I earn decent money in the end
you never here me complain about my hours or no pay rise for a couple of years.

les have you spent many years studying:Erm:, do you have a degree or masters degree:cwm25:
has your monthly income increased by more than 1% over the last few years ??

so you drive people around and don't charge them :wink:

[joebloggs]

All thanks to the previous government!

economy did pretty well under Blair, check your facts les, world recession was down to labour :icon_lol:

[Dedworth]

economy did pretty well under Blair, check your facts les, world recession was down to labour :icon_lol:

“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher

[les_taxi]

It was all borrowed lol, we all ended up spending what we did not have and there was no control on the banks.

Plus all the ridiculous immigrants allowed in. 120-odd different kinds of benefits created a whole generation of 'Jeremy' kids, 2 illegal wars, etc., etc. Labour supporters are in constant denial

[les_taxi]

What's the point you're making about a degree?

[andy222]

Some of you on here have no grasp of basic economics. Labour left us with the biggest deficit ever - yet you still blame this government.

Of course we blame this government. Look at the cuts they have made. And still there is no improvement. And they announce a further 5 years cuts, :yikes:! While all the cuts are taking place they get an 11% rise. People won't stand for it. I listened to the Lib/Dem Conference; they had the opposite policy from the Tories - tax the rich and help the lower working people. Sounds good to me. :xxgrinning--00xx3: Just because you earn more does not mean you work harder.

[les_taxi]

Of course I earn a decent wage - because I work hard. Are you drinking special brew? 'coz you don't make sense lol

[Dedworth]

The present economic woes in Australia are due to the previous Labour regime spending like there was no tomorrow

[les_taxi]

They made the cuts coz your lot shafted us. Will take years to sort out of course. You forget we're the fastest growing economy in Europe, lowest unemployment in years, etc etc

[andy222]

Of course I earn a decent wage - because I work hard. Are you drinking special brew? 'coz you don't make sense lol

I don't know whether it's me :anerikke: but I haven't seen a taxi driver work hard. :biggrin:

[joebloggs]

What's the point you're making about a degree?

The point is Les, they've been studying for years, taken exams, sacrificed time and money :wink:

[joebloggs]

Of course I earn a decent wage because I work hard. You drinking special brew coz you don't make sense lol

:icon_lol: everyone says they work hard les :doh tell me someone who doesn't :cwm25:

[andy222]

They made the cuts coz your lot shafted us will take years to sort out of course you forget we fastest growing economy in Europe, lowest unemployment in years etc etx
A large amount of those employed are on short term or zero hour contracts brought about by this government.

[les_taxi]

Better than no job at all under Labour! Zero hours on way out too!

[joebloggs]

The present economic woes in Australia are due to the previous Labour regime spending like there was no tomorrow

So Dedworth, the Labour Party dragged all of Europe and much of the world into recession?

Maybe you - and Les with his basic understanding of economics - could explain the following graphic to us who don't have the same expertise as you two :cwm25:

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4051492.ece/alternates/s615/MAIN-eu-recession.jpg

[les_taxi]

:icon_lol: everyone says they work hard les :doh tell me someone who doesn't :cwm25:

What are you on about now, Joe? I am not arguing about how hard people work! Again, what's the degree point about? Please explain.

[joebloggs]

What are you on about now, Joe? I am not arguing about how hard people work! Again, what's the degree point about? Please explain.

You think that people who spend time and money educating themselves should not be financially rewarded, Les? Could you do the job of a midwife, nurse or doctor?

[les_taxi]

Joe, you are starting to look silly now. Where did I say they should not get paid properly? Show me please. I have the utmost respect for the medical profession and value all they do. So an experienced midwife on about £35,000 is not enough you think? You cannot say that is a poor wage.

I maybe could have been a male nurse but it was not the job for me.

Don't forget, this 1% increase would apply to those top paid consultants on over £100,000. You are a closet Tory :icon_lol:

[les_taxi]

So Dedworth, the Labour Party dragged all of Europe and much of the world into recession?

Maybe you - and Les with his basic understanding of economics - could explain the following graphic to us who don't have the same expertise as you two :cwm25:

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4051492.ece/alternates/s615/MAIN-eu-recession.jpg

Glad you posted that Joe - seeing as it shows UK at the top under a Tory-led coalition government, and how we were at the bottom under Labour - good find! :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol:

[joebloggs]

Glad you posted that Joe - seeing as it shows UK at the top under a Tory-led coalition goverment, and how we were at the bottom under Labour - good find! :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol:

Are you colour-blind Les? Was Labour responsible for the decline in GDP in Germany and France?

[andy222]

Better than no job at all under Labour! Zero hours on way out too!

All taxi drivers should be employed by the Government on P.A.Y.E. and paid minimum wage. What would you say to that Les?

Somehow I don't think you would like it. :wink:

[les_taxi]

Why taxi drivers?

[andy222]

Better than no job at all under Labour! Zero hours on way out too!

Never been unemployed under a Labour government. Always been made redundant under a Tory government. Just one of the reasons I vote Labour.

[andy222]

Why taxi drivers?
Why not?

Reason number 1: It would stop all the tax fiddles that go on.

Why don't you agree with it Les?

[les_taxi]

I don't get the gist of your statement. I don't get holiday pay or sick pay as it is. Like I have said before, too many whingers moaning about their jobs. I love my job, work lots of hours. Have to fend off fights, even had a gun waved in my car. I have a very, very successful business - all achieved by me. No one has helped. You make your own way in this life.

[Michael Parnham]

Unions are the problem, get rid! :Erm:

[imagine]

They are all the same, hand in hand - promises promises - just in there to get what they can. Joe public matters not!

I bet they are all drinking buddies.

[les_taxi]

Well its good to bring this old chestnut up. It's gonna be fun next election time!

[joebloggs]

Joe, you are starting to look silly now. Where did I say they should not get paid properly? Show me please. I have the utmost respect for the medical profession and value all they do. So an experienced midwife on about £35,000 is not enough you think? You cannot say that is a poor wage.

I maybe could have been a male nurse but it was not the job for me.

Don't forget, this 1% increase would apply to those top paid consultants on over £100,000. You are a closet Tory :icon_lol:

Why are you posting their annual wage then? You think £22k is a lot, I think that's about what the average starting wage a graduate would get. Tell me when they start getting paid £35k. How many years' experience, Les? And how many years it takes to become a £60k consultant midwife?

What's the starting wage of a consultant, Les? Also, do you have any idea of what is the minimum age say a surgeon could be to get this starting wage?

I'll help you Les, you leave school with some 'A' Levels, take a 5yr medical degree, 2 years foundation training, 7yrs training as a surgeon - that's if you are lucky and manage to pass each exam and find a placement for the next year. What's that? They would be a minimum of 32 yrs old, and been continuously studying and getting in debt for the last 14yrs - and you think £60k a year is too much Les?

[les_taxi]

Wow you must be googling like mad today Joe. Not easy for me as I'm working. £22,000 is not bad as a starting wage. Joe, were these people forced into these jobs or did they choose their career?

[les_taxi]

I also wish to say that many doctors I know are middle class having come from moneyed backgrounds.Tory voters too!

[Arthur Little]

Ms Harman said her party shared public unease about the impact of immigration on UK workers' pay and pressure on public services.

They'll be losing all their voters :biggrin:

:iagree: ... her statement could very well finish up "harmin" Labour's chances at the next Election. Silly woman!

[Dedworth]

I'll help you Les, you leave school with some 'A' Levels, take a 5yr medical degree, 2 years foundation training, 7yrs training as a surgeon, that's if you are lucky and manage to pass each exam and find a placement for the next year. What's that? They would be a minimum of 32 yrs old, and been continuously studying and getting in debt for the last 14yrs - and you think £60k a year is too much Les ?

Is that why we have so many foreign doctors Joe 'cos their training is less thorough ? :cwm25:

[grahamw48]

All of this pandering to the voters by the big parties in the run-up to the election. Sickening marketing and propaganda. :NoNo:

Keep digging them in the ribs Mr. Farage. You won't get into power, but SOMEBODY might be pressured to actually carry out the wishes of the majority of ordinary people in this country then. :mad:

[les_taxi]

I have in no way said the medical profession get too much money - just Joe being economical with the truth.

The structure of the pay rise is wrong - the 1% across the board.
The guy on over a £100,000 would get it too :doh

Thought you Labour guys were against wealth! :icon_lol:

[joebloggs]

Midwives starting salary is £22,000 -rising to £34,000 when experienced.

Top Midwives' Advisers etc, on £60,000

Why did you spend time googling their wages, Les? Is this supposed to impress people? How well paid they are? Tell me what the average wage is


Plus all the ridiculous immigrants allowed in. 120-odd different kinds of benefits created

Name 20 benefits, Les. The only mistake Labour made, unless you know better. If you do, please tell. They didn't make the Poles wait 7yrs until they could come to the UK - which they did with the Romanians and Bulgarians.


Have to fend off fights, even had a gun waved in my car.

Many NHS staff have been assaulted :NoNo:,



Unions are the problem, get rid! :Erm:

And what about bosses that exploit workers? If they didn't, then there would be no need for unions


I also wish to say that many doctors I know are middle class having come from moneyed backgrounds. Tory voters too!

You would have to be from a middle class family to afford the £50k debt they end up in


Is that why we have so many foreign doctors Joe, 'cos their training is less thorough ? :cwm25:

My misses has done 5yrs at Med School in the Phils, the course and uni has to be recognised by the GMC so you can be registered. That's after you've passed PLAB exams - something British doctors don't do! :wink:


I have in no way said the medical profession get too much money - just Joe being economical with the truth.

The structure of the pay rise is wrong - the 1% across the board.

The guy on over a £100,000 would get it too :doh

Thought you Labour guys were against wealth! :icon_lol:

As I've already asked, why did you post the wage scales for them ???

Which guy gets £100k? Show me some figures as you did with midwives, Les

[les_taxi]

Why did you spend time googling their wages, Les? Is this supposed to impress people? How well paid they are? Tell me what the average wage is

Unlike you Joe, I don't google all day - was on 5-Live when I heard it :xxgrinning--00xx3:


the only mistake Labour made

You're having a laugh! :icon_lol:

I will look it up at some point, but it is a fact that under Labour there were about 120 different benefits available.


Many NHS staff have been assaulted

True, but this is not the argument - I'm not criticizing the job they do or what they get paid - you misread too much. :doh

Quick google and I found this - if you want I will try to find higher earners :xxgrinning--00xx3:




[IMG]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/lestaxi1/Capture-23.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/lestaxi1/media/Capture-23.jpg.html)

All I'm saying is, a lot of the top-paid professionals were able to take on the debt, as they came from wealthy middle class backgrounds :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[les_taxi]

Btw. I only posted the midwife wage as Andy posted this:


Now there are midwives striking for decent pay. The first time in history

Since the average midwife gets over £30,000, I did not feel they were on the breadline.

You Labour guys love strike action - so we give them a rise, then firemen, then police etc etc - we ain't got the money as Labour gleefully pointed out when they were kicked out of office :doh

[joebloggs]

Unlike you Joe I don't google all day-was on 5 live where I heard it:xxgrinning--00xx3:

:icon_lol:, I cant access this forum 24/7 - unlike you while you're working. :wink: The only reason I'm on here now is because today is one of my paid holidays :biggrin:



Quick google and I found this - if you want, I will try to find higher earners :xxgrinning--00xx3:
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/lestaxi1/Capture-23.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/lestaxi1/media/Capture-23.jpg.html)


:icon_lol: Pity you didn't check Les, there are Pay Scales for Managers, but then you'll tell me the NHS has to pay the going business rate for a job with such responsibility when a trust employs 1,000s :wink:


All I'm saying is, a lot of the top-paid professionals were able to take on the debt, as they came from wealthy middle class backgrounds :xxgrinning--00xx3:

You're right Les, not many working class kids get to be doctors, doesn't sound fair does it :NoNo:

[les_taxi]

You're right Les, not many working class kids get to be doctors, doesn't sound fair does it

It's life get on with it! :xxgrinning--00xx3:



Pity you didn't check Les, there are Pay Scales for Managers, but then you'll tell me the NHS has to pay the going business rate for a job with such responsibility when a trust employs 1,000s

No, pity you don't know your stuff Joe, as it was on 5 Live this morning. Play it back! Nicky (what's his name?) put it to the strikers: How did they feel about people in the Health Service earning over £100,000 getting the 1%? They, of course, couldn't answer. Great fun listening to that! :icon_lol:

Double-check your facts in future, Joe - I'm getting bored of correcting you :doh

[joebloggs]

Btw, I only posted the midwife wage as Andy posted this:


Now there are midwives striking for decent pay. The first time in history.


Since the average midwife gets over £30,000, I did not feel they were on the breadline.

You Labour guys love strike action - so we give them a rise, then firemen, then police, etc etc - we ain't got the money as Labour gleefully pointed out when they were kicked out of office :doh

You don't feel Les, how much is rent down South, Les?

No money, yet Osborne cuts 10% off the tax rate for the rich! How does that work out, Les?

Seeing as you're busy working, I'll google average pay for the UK for you Les..

Oh, it's £26,500 Les.


There were four midwives on staff the night we were there and every single one of them told me they love their job. They routinely work their 12-hour shift without a break and stay late - sometimes up to 15/16 hours - in order to see a labour through.

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-10-10/midwives-walkout-in-row-over-pay/

As for my misses, I moaned at her last week when she came home at 7:30 pm. Told her she was only supposed to work 40 hrs a week. Most nights she doesn't get home till after 7pm. It's 6:20pm now, shes still not home and she should finish at 5pm. Takes her 20mins to get home... unpaid overtime Les, unlike you she cant just say :censored: I've had enough for today and go home. :NoNo:

[joebloggs]

It's life get on with it! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

No, pity you don't know your stuff Joe, as it was on 5 Live this morning. Play it back! Nicky (whats his name?) put it to the strikers: How did they feel about people in the Health Service earning over £100,000 getting the 1%? They, of course, couldn't answer. Great fun listening to that! :icon_lol:

Double-check your facts in future, Joe - I'm getting bored of correcting you :doh

I'll correct you again les, what's this link then les ?? send me a link where it says a doctor, nurse or midwife gets 100k a year ?

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/management/pay-for-managers/

Band 8 - band 9
Communications service manager (Band 8a-8c)
Counsellor professional manager (Band 8a-C)
Estates Manager Higher Level Operations (Band 8a-b)
Estates Manager Higher Level Projects (Band 8a-b)
Head of Procurement and Supply (Band 8a-b)
Health Records Service Manager (Band 8a-c)
Healthcare Science Service Manager (Career Framework Stage 8) (Band 8a-d)
Healthcare Scientist Professional Manager (Career Framework Stage 8) (Band 8a-c)
HR Manager Principal (Assistant Director) (Band 8a-c)
IM&T Service Manager (Band 8a-c)
Physiological Measurement/ Clinical Physiology Service Manager (Band 8a-b)
Principal Finance Manager (Band 8a)
Professional Manager (Clinical, Clinical Technical Service) (Band 8a-b)
Professional Manager Library Services (Band 8a-b)
Professional Manager, Improvement and Development (Band 8a-b)
Programme Manager (Band 8a)
Chief Finance Manager Band (8a-8d)
Head of Estates/ Assistant Head of Estates (Band 8c-d)
HR Head of Service Band (8b-d)
Pharmacist Team Manager
Professional Manager (Pharmaceutical Services) (Band 8b-c)

[les_taxi]

They entered the profession knowing that's the score. The wage for a midwife is based on a *37.5 hour week. What's *that? I've never done that in my life :icon_lol:

They do a great job and clearly get great job satisfaction.
You have Googled the average pay for what? everyone in UK?


unlike you she can't just say I've had enough for today and go home

Did she choose her job or was she forced into it against her will Joe? If she was forced into it she could maybe claim. :doh

I chose my job too and had to invest a lot of money to do so.

I have worked 90-hour weeks mate, so don't need a lecture on when I can finish.

[les_taxi]

I'll correct you again, Les. What's this link then, Les? Send me a link where it says a doctor, nurse or midwife gets 100k a year

No, I will correct you. I said 'Health Worker' - which includes all as pointed out on 5 Live - just listen to the podcast! In fact, do you want £50 on it?

[les_taxi]

Salaries for the UK's 42,000 GPs vary from an average of £103,000 a year for partners in practices to anything between £53,781 and £81,158 for GPs employed by Primary Care Trusts.

That's from 2012 - satisfied now?

[KeithD]

Keith give me all your cash and car and credit cards! I will spend everything, max out your cards. Then in a few years time I will have a go at you for having no money to spend.

So the way the Tories have dealt with it is to go to payday lenders and increase the debt by using debt to payoff debt! :Erm:

Even the country's top finance experts say the government should have invested more money in jobs, rather than putting thousands on the dole, and calling it austerity.

[les_taxi]

It was a no win election - a poisoned chalice - you ain't going to like the person who says you can't spend what we haven't got :doh


Even the country's top finance experts say the government should have invested more money in jobs, rather than putting thousands on the dole, and call it austerity

So the fact is that the jobless count is lower than when Labour was in power is irrelevant then?

[les_taxi]

Right, work to do - as I have just wasted an hour of my life on here. :biggrin:

[joebloggs]

They entered the profession knowing that's the score.The wage for a midwife is based on a *37.5 hour week. What's *that? I've never done that in my life :icon_lol:

They do a great job and clearly get great job satisfaction.
You have Googled the average pay for what? everyone in UK?

Did she choose her job or was she forced into it against her will Joe? If she was forced into it she could maybe claim :doh

I chose my job too and had to invest a lot of money to do so.

I have worked 90-hour weeks mate so don't need a lecture on when I can finish.

:crazy: So when you take a job and your contract says you work a 40-hr week, that's what you work, not 5-10 hrs a week for nothing. But that's what many NHS workers do - work for :censored: nothing - it doesn't come with the job at all, they are dedicated to the job. Unlike you Les, they can't say :censored: never mind the patient, I'll go home. Maybe they should, and it will force a change! But then it's that they are striking for now! Where does it mention working for nothing ?????? They are - and have been - exploited for years and you moan about a 1% pay rise. :NoNo:

90-hrs a week? :icon_lol: Try a 12-hr shift for a week dealing with people's lives. :NoNo:

[joebloggs]

Salaries for the UK's 42,000 GPs vary from an average of £103,000 a year for partners in practices to anything between £53,781 and £81,158 for GPs employed by Primary Care Trusts.

That's from 2012 - satisfied now?

:laugher: Partners, they own the GP surgery; its run as a business just like your taxi business. They employ staff and pay their wages, pay utilities etc..

Oh, an NHS GP gets £53k to £85k,

How many years experience do you need to be on £85k?

[les_taxi]

Wrong again Joe - you suckered me into coming back to reply. :cwm23:

A survey by The Daily Telegraph has found that more than 7,800 NHS staff were paid over £100,000 last year, with a third of them earning more than David Cameron’s £142,500 salary.

You're glad they would have got the 1% rise? :yikes:!

Again, you are trying to twist things - which is what you do. :icon_lol:

I have total respect for NHS workers, don't believe in strikes - unlike Labour supporters in general.

[les_taxi]

People choose their jobs - if they don't want the hours, don't want the responsibility, go and do another job.

You will be telling me next, Teachers have a hard time of it :doh:doh

[les_taxi]

What will be awful for the country - but will be great fun - is watching you trying to defend Labour if they get back in. Oh, I'm sure we will all be poorer, but I will have the satisfaction of taking the piss out of you big time :icon_lol:

[KeithD]

Waste of time talking about the Tories anyway, they won't be winning next May. The underlying trend the bookies use still gives Labour a few points lead. :smile:

[les_taxi]

I'm shutting up for now. :biggrin:

[joebloggs]

Wrong again Joe - you suckered me into coming back to reply. :cwm23:

A survey by The Daily Telegraph has found that more than 7,800 NHS staff were paid over £100,000 last year, with a third of them earning more than David Cameron’s £142,500 salary.


How many were managers ???????

[joebloggs]

A survey by The Daily Telegraph has found that more than 7,800 NHS staff were paid over £100,000 last year, with a third of them earning more than David Cameron’s £142,500 salary
.

:icon_lol: Cameron and the MPs have more paid holidays than any other job. Maybe he should try a 12-hr shift for a week! :doh

[joebloggs]

Waste of time talking about the Tories anyway, they won't be winning next May. The underlying trend the bookies use still gives Labour a few points lead. :smile:

:icon_lol::xxgrinning--00xx3:

They were right about the Scottish Referendum and they will be right about a Labour government. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Jamesey]

Perfect combination for me - Tory/UKIP - bang on! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

I can't think of anything worse than this! Actually, I can. UKIP on their own!

This is an interesting read and tells it how it is. I'm still hopeful that the vast majority of UKIP's supporters will see sense before the next election.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-you-you-vote-ukip-4415106

[SimonH]

Waste of time talking about the Tories anyway, they won't be winning next May. The underlying trend the bookies use still gives Labour a few points lead. :smile:

As a betting man, how much do you want on that?

[joebloggs]

I can't think of anything worse than this! Actually, I can. UKIP on their own!

This is an interesting read and tells it how it is. I'm still hopeful that the vast majority of UKIP's supporters will see sense before the next election.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-you-you-vote-ukip-4415106

Let's hope many of them watch this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lxvrd

[joebloggs]

Found your article, Les :biggrin:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10009054/The-8000-NHS-staff-on-six-figure-salaries.html


Almost 8,000 NHS hospital managers and consultants were paid six-figure salaries last year while nurses were “run ragged” because of dangerously low staffing levels.


The highest-paid executive earned £340,000 — almost 16 times more than ward nurses, who earn as little as £21,388-a-year. Eleven high earners have been paid more than £250,000 each.


Darren Cattell, the trust’s interim finance director, was paid £340,000 last year — almost £1,475-a-day — as the trust headed towards financial meltdown.


Trusts said that the majority of high earners were senior clinical staff. The average consultant is paid £84,000, but can receive an additional £76,000 a year in “clinical excellence awards”, which critics claim are given as a matter of course.


A Department of Health spokesman said: “Many of these staff are senior consultants and their pay reflects responsibilities and clinical skills". :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

This is an interesting read and tells it how it is.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-you-you-vote-ukip-4415106

Unlike this thread, :icon_rolleyes: ... full of the usual boring, political claptrap - accurate or otherwise - being posted on here, ad infinitum!

:doh! At last, someone has taken the initiative to close it, thank the Lord!

[KeithD]

As a betting man, how much do you want on that?

I only bet on horses, and footy, as I bet in-running only. Two bets of over £100,000 have gone in from other pro's though. Maybe one of them's the same guy who put £200,000 on a Scottish No vote.