Children in Need

[Alan]

Keith - I hope that this post is not 'Out of Order'

Hi Guys,

As you are probably aware - today is Children in Need day again.

I have been supporting this charity for a long time now and I have seen at first hand some of the good that has come out of it, helping children in all sorts of ways.
Having spent my career working with children I can say that there is no better sight in the world than when a child is made happy - especially a child who is truly in need.
In my travels to the Phils. this year I have managed to help a few children in different ways already. I am sure you know that a lot of Filipino children need a lot of help.

All I am saying my friends, is that if you have a few spare pennies today - please consider giving them to Children in Need.

Thanks,

Al.:)

[bigtombowski]

good call teach

[Pepe n Pilar]

Hi Allan, i agree with you there are lots of children in need. How about depositing any amount to the Kapuso Foundation ? To those who has spare pennies can make a deposit to Metrobank or PCIB bank. Accounts are being flashed on channel 7 every after the news at 8:00pm. This foundation has been helping lots of poor children everywhere in the Philippines.

[LadyJ]

Oh yeah last night before I turn off my telly about 11.30pm they raised a whooping more than £14,000 Millions and I think that was wwiiiickkeed!!

Come on Keith its not too late, you can still give some to the Children in Need..:D

[KeithD]

I'd rather take the bears other eye out :)

[bigtombowski]

keith that is probably the single most tasteless thing i have heard u say! but oddly amusing too hahaha

[KeithD]

I get taxed about £140 for a TV channel I never watch, and then they spend my tax on 7hrs of charity grabbing. Why don\'t they do one for cancer? Our war injured? etc...etc....I don\'t know any kids in this country that need something more than a child in Darfor.The BBC was setup as an information service, begging for money is not information, nor a service.

[bigtombowski]

strong opinions!

[ervenescence]

My hubby has pledge a few penny lastnight.

It's good to help sometimes :)

[aromulus]

I get taxed about £140 for a TV channel I never watch, and then they spend my tax on 7hrs of charity grabbing. Why don\'t they do one for cancer? Our war injured? etc...etc....I don\'t know any kids in this country that need something more than a child in Darfor.The BBC was setup as an information service, begging for money is not information, nor a service.

Not trying to be controversial, but I stopped donating to this particular charity a few years ago.
When news leaked out, well proven, that they did allocate some of the Kids money to other causes which had nothing to do with children... Especially some lesbian groups.
I am all for cancer research, Poppy appeals, Heart Foundation, etc. but I have to draw the line somewhere.

What happened to all the money raised by Saint "BOB" with the concerts...?

I give, when I see something worthwhile.
I totally ignore people shaking collection tins in front of my face.

And I resent the fact that the British Legion Never gets a penny from the Lottery funds.
But lesbians and Homosexuals do. Why...?

Dammit, I am ranting....
Ciao for now

[KeithD]

Humbug :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[andypaul]

Don't get me started on chuggeeers like when one in a high street goes how you want to help kids in the third world to the wife and me? I said we do her family live there, shut him up quick.

[joebloggs]

what about help joe fund :cwm24: :xxgrinning--00xx3:

just the war in Iraq is costing the tax payer £1bn-a-year :NoNo:

and
The total cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is expected to be $1.6 trillion (£770bn) – double the amount President George Bush says it will cost.

A report entitled The Hidden Costs of the Iraq War says the true cost of the wars is almost double the $804bn the White House has requested for military operations in 2008.

The report, prepared by Democrats in Congress, says an average American family of four has already paid more than $20,000 to fund the President's military adventures.
:NoNo::Cuckoo:

[Alan]

The total cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is expected to be $1.6 trillion (£770bn)

Bloody Hell - that's even more than Keith earns (I think!)

Al. :)

[Gavanddal]

What annoys me about Children in Need is that you see loads of ordinary people who have raised many a few hundred quid by maybe doing a sponsored walk or something and holding up a cheque and then there's the multi-millionnaire celebrities who appear on the programme who have "given up their time for free!" How about seeing then actually holding up cheques showing how much money they've actually given. Then maybe they don't, perhaps they feel that giving their time is enough.
Seeing multi-millionaires appealing to ordinary people to give cash is immoral.
Between them all they could easily top the £19 million given by the public.

Just my thoughts

[KeithD]

Sacking Puffy Norton & Wonathan Woss would save £16 Mill :)

[andypaul]

What annoys me about Children in Need is that you see loads of ordinary people who have raised many a few hundred quid by maybe doing a sponsored walk or something and holding up a cheque and then there's the multi-millionnaire celebrities who appear on the programme who have "given up their time for free!" How about seeing then actually holding up cheques showing how much money they've actually given. Then maybe they don't, perhaps they feel that giving their time is enough.
Seeing multi-millionaires appealing to ordinary people to give cash is immoral.
Between them all they could easily top the £19 million given by the public.

Just my thoughts

One person i spoke to was telling me they had read that Terry wogan actually got paid for the show if thats true its even sicker.

[KeithD]

What a miserable bunch we are :icon_lol:

Charity begins at home.....so I'm giving myself a holiday :D

[Gavanddal]

Talking of begging..... What do forum members think of beggars in the Philippines?
When I'm with the wife and her family and we're approached by beggars, usually kids or old women, the wife may give them a few coins but seems to give them the cold shoulder perhaps cos she can see them targetting me as a "rich" (I wish) Westerner.
Last year a kid came up to me with his hand out and all I had on me was a tissue, a pack of Polo mints and a wallet full of 1000 Peso notes. So there I am on holiday and it's hard to get money out of the bank in the provinces so I'm not going to give away P1000 to anyone who asks so I offer him the mints or the tissue. He couldn't have been that hungry cos he refused the mints :Erm: I reckon most beggars aren't genuinely hungry they're just too lazy to work.
Anyway, I accept that there are a lot of very poor people in the RP but should we just hand out cash to everyone who hassles us while we're there?

Thoughts anyone?

[KeithD]

Mints!!! :yikes: I'm glad I'm not hungry and staying in your house :icon_lol:

[baboyako]

baah mints.. in my day we had to suck on bits of tar :cwm3:

[Alan]

baah mints.. in my day we had to suck on bits of tar :cwm3:

TAR????????:xxgrinning--00xx3:

LUXURY!!!!!!

Al.:)

[KeithD]

Tar - Scouse for 'thanks' - Good to see you are learning PROPER English Al :D

[bigtombowski]

baah mints.. in my day we had to suck on bits of tar :cwm3:

my joke just wouldn't stay here for too long! i am editing myself :D hehe

[Alan]

I am quite lucky with beggars when I am in the Phils.

Hanna just tells them to b****r off!!!!

Al.:)

[KeithD]

Alan, you changed me with this post......I've donated next doors kid to the Arabs.....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Alan]

Alan, you changed me with this post......I've donated next doors kid to the Arabs.....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Proud of you mate. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Al.:)

[gWaPito]

I get taxed about £140 for a TV channel I never watch, and then they spend my tax on 7hrs of charity grabbing. Why don\'t they do one for cancer? Our war injured? etc...etc....I don\'t know any kids in this country that need something more than a child in Darfor.The BBC was setup as an information service, begging for money is not information, nor a service.

:yikes:

[bigtombowski]

Alan, you changed me with this post......I've donated next doors kid to the Arabs.....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

if u lived in birmingham, you'd be donating an arab kid to the arabs, coz the people next door would be arabs anyhow lol ;)

[KeithD]

if u lived in birmingham, you'd be donating an arab kid to the arabs, coz the people next door would be arabs anyhow lol ;)

:Erm: When was the last time you visited Pakistan.....sorry Birmingham? :rolleyes:

[Gavanddal]

Talking of Children in Need, I've just read on Direct.gov that the disabled can drive at 16!!!!!!!!!!! :omg::Cuckoo:
Can you imagine that? Disabled children driving, that's scary. There should be a big warning sign on the back of their cars!!

Or the other way of looking at it is that normal, fit, able, intelligent young people are being discriminated against. Isn't that illegal?

Personally I think people shouldn't drive until they're 21 when they're a bit more mature.

[KeithD]

So you'd prefer a 16yo paraplegic to get on a bus then? And not have the independence of other folk the same age? Besides, other kids only have to wait a year.

I very much doubt a disabled 16yo, would drive the same way as an 18yo roadster, they are the killers.

[andypaul]

The freedom it gives the disabled 16 year old i doubt very many would ever dare drive dangrously.

[joebloggs]

totally agree with scouser keith and andypaul, when your a disabled teenager, you've had to grow up quicker and be more mature and responsible than your average :Cuckoo::Rasp: teenager, and take things less for granted..

[Gavanddal]

:NoNo: I don't see how you can generalize. I don't think my 16 year old son is less mature because he's able bodied :Erm:

[KeithD]

:NoNo: I don't see how you can generalize. I don't think my 16 year old son is less mature because he's able bodied :Erm:

You've never worked with real disabled teenagers then have you? Insurers charge £2000+ for the first year on teenagers for a reason, the disabled folk are covered by Motability, and they would not give them a vehicle if it was a higher than normal risk, which able bodied teenagers are. The stats are quite clear.

[joebloggs]

i think many disabled teenagers would be more mature than your average teenager, as they may have had to make decisions about life-threatening surgery and cope with a level of pain which would flatten most non-disabled people, and forced to deal with their disability and miss out on a 'normal childhood', just as many teenagers and even younger have to mature quicker when they face looking after a disabled parent and becoimng more responsible...

[Alan]

i think many disabled teenagers would be more mature than your average teenager, as they may have had to make decisions about life-threatening surgery and cope with a level of pain which would flatten most non-disabled people, and forced to deal with their disability and miss out on a 'normal childhood', just as many teenagers and even younger have to mature quicker when they face looking after a disabled parent and becoimng more responsible...

You are correct about this Joe - the stats prove it. I am seeking an article I read about this not long ago.

Al.:)

[Peanutz]

Talking of begging..... What do forum members think of beggars in the Philippines?
When I'm with the wife and her family and we're approached by beggars, usually kids or old women, the wife may give them a few coins but seems to give them the cold shoulder perhaps cos she can see them targetting me as a "rich" (I wish) Westerner.
Last year a kid came up to me with his hand out and all I had on me was a tissue, a pack of Polo mints and a wallet full of 1000 Peso notes. So there I am on holiday and it's hard to get money out of the bank in the provinces so I'm not going to give away P1000 to anyone who asks so I offer him the mints or the tissue. He couldn't have been that hungry cos he refused the mints :Erm: I reckon most beggars aren't genuinely hungry they're just too lazy to work.
Anyway, I accept that there are a lot of very poor people in the RP but should we just hand out cash to everyone who hassles us while we're there?

Thoughts anyone?

My country is devastated of corruption and corruption and corruption. Our economy is being saved thanks to all the remittance that comes from the OFW and Filipinos all over the world.
Our welfare is non existent! You will see everywhere children begging on the streets, most are victims of poverty and violence you could ever imagine, cardboard house built on the streets, under the bridge or in any place.

Youth that are being involved in drugs are everywhere. Old people being left to die because poor families can't afford medication or hospitalization. You are lucky if you have a job and being paid miserably, because that means you can bring food to your family and help yourself as well not to get mad in this unbearable poverty. Not a merry scene to witness...and who is to blame?
We have rich people also, who you will see with their 'tata' in their uniform while tailing them and their child when they are out shopping. Rich people who shop and eat in expensive restaurant unperturbed of the poverty that surrounds them. As being their slaves, you have to obey from your masters 'utos' if you don't want to be fired, there will be hundreds of people who would fill your job right away . These are the new rich people, as if they are waiving to everyone their status symbol. (where did we inherited this kind of treatment to our own people?).
I am not blaming anyone...but as you look to Filipino's they seemed not to be bothered by this. They will be 'bahala na ang diyos' or 'basta makakaraos din', there is no ambition or will to change the course of their lives with their own effort.
There are many things that I don't like by the ways we Filipino's have been taught and brought up and this is one of those.
Those who got out from poverty had already forgot what it is like to be there. The Filipino way of surviving for their own sake first. There is no sense of community, of belonging to the same country.

However, It's been a long time that this thing has been hanging around at the back of my mind, to build a charity organization to help filipino children. If there is anyone out there who are willing to discuss it with me, feel free to send me a message or post it here, if Admin would approved.

We could start a new thread to discuss these things if you like Gavanddal.

[KeithD]

Philippines!!! I thought you were talking about London :cwm24:

[Gavanddal]

Actually, no word of a lie, I was approached every single day by beggars when I worked in Liverpool. This didn't happen to me in the Philippines. Interesting parallel eh?

[KeithD]

Actually, no word of a lie, I was approached every single day by beggars when I worked in Liverpool. This didn't happen to me in the Philippines. Interesting parallel eh?

:NoNo: They're not beggars......that's just the way we are :D