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Dedworth
11th January 2015, 15:14
A big well done to these surgeries providing a decent service to the public :xxgrinning--00xx3:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-30760172


A good example that should be followed by the money grabbers getting fat on the Labour 2004 not in the public interest contracts

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 15:33
A good example that should be followed by the money grabbers getting fat on the Labour 2004 not in the public interest contracts

Money grabbers, is this a good example, :icon_lol:, the CCG selling off the NHS sliver to private companies ? :wink:



South Downs A&E is at risk after new contract


http://www.wscountytimes.co.uk/news/local/south-downs-a-e-is-at-risk-after-new-contract-1-6306777

Dedworth
11th January 2015, 18:25
Of course in Joeland no NHS money ever went to the private sector under Labour. In fact 4% of NHS spending went to the private sector under Labour, 5% now wit Conservatives - usual Labour hypocrisy

Can you expand Joe on what the connection is between the CCG placing a tranche of work with the private sector and a number of GP Surgeries provinging an improved service

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 18:44
4% of NHS spending went to the private sector under Labour, 5% now under Conservatives - usual Labour hypocrisy

links dedworth

how :crazy: can it be for the CCG to award the contract to a private partnership meaning the hospital will have less money to spend in other departments like A & E :doh

what needs to happen is to stop leeching private companies making profits out of the NHS

Dedworth
11th January 2015, 20:45
Links - I can't really be arsed to find where I spotted the 4 & 5% figures Joe but here's a couple for you to chew over

Hospitals to cut services to pay for £60bn private finance deal
Hospitals will be forced to make cuts to pay for a massive rise in the bills for Labour's controversial private finance programme after the next general election.

Telegraph Aug 2009

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5995025/Hospitals-to-cut-services-to-pay-for-pay-60bn-private-finance-deal.html

And here's one from one of your favourite sites www.labourleft.co.uk (http://www.labourleft.co.uk) :biggrin:

A moment of honesty is required. New Labour began the dismantling of our NHS admits @KailashChandOBE

http://www.labourleft.co.uk/a-moment-of-honesty-is-required-new-labour-began-the-dismantling-of-our-nhs-admits-kailashchandobe/

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 20:52
here's a couple for you dedworth not from 2009 but from the last few weeks :wink:


Private firms 'win 70% of NHS contracts'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25660555


A third of NHS contracts awarded to private firms - report


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30397329

Dedworth
11th January 2015, 20:58
Almost 70% of contracts for NHS services in England between April-December 2013 were won by private firms, a campaign group claims.

You believe crap percentages like my wife Joe when she see's a 70% off sign at spivs like Sports Direct and I tell her they were previously selling the stuff for £500 :laugher:

So 70% is not kosher but merely a claim from a "campaign group" & in your second link which possibly has more substance "a Freedom of Information request made by the British Medical Journal" the figure plummets to 33% :laugher:

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 21:10
not figures from some pressure group, but from the gov itself :doh


he information comes from a Freedom of Information request made by the British Medical Journal.

Of 3,494 contracts awarded by 182 Clinical Commissioning Groups in England between April 2013 and August 2014, 33% went to the private sector.

The government says the data is misleading.

how can the gov say its miss-leading when its from them :icon_lol:

Dedworth
11th January 2015, 21:14
Link one as I said was from a pressure group and again as I said link 2 possibly has more substance. Try reading my post in full

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 21:34
i did read it dedworth, the 70% figure could still be true as it's from a smaller sample

SimonH
11th January 2015, 21:46
i did read it dedworth, the 70% figure could still be true as it's from a smaller sample

:laugher::laugher::laugher:

It COULD also be 100% if you bring that sample down further :crazy:

Anyway, hats off to the West Sussex GPs, that's what this thread was about wasn't it :Erm:

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 21:58
:laugher::laugher::laugher:

It COULD also be 100% if you bring that sample down further :crazy:

Anyway, hats off to the West Sussex GPs, that's what this thread was about wasn't it :Erm:

:laugher::laugher::laugher:
so the ccg has created an extra 360 appointments at GP surgeries, but at the same time caused problems for the 2 local A&E units :crazy::doh


Accident and emergency services used by South Downs residents are potentially under threat in the wake of a decision to hand an NHS contract to a private provider.

Health chiefs this week said the decision could threaten the future viability of A&E services at Chichester and Worthing hospitals.

SimonH
11th January 2015, 22:10
Two words for you to look up Joe, potentially and could :wink:
Do you need a link to a dictionary :icon_lol:

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 22:20
funny they didn't get a contract for A & E, i wonder why :cwm25::Erm:
:doh oh private companies are not interested in A & E when they can cherry pick which ones will make them most money. now with the hospital losing the contract they will have less money to send on other departments, like the loss making A & E :doh

joebloggs
11th January 2015, 22:26
potentially and could

more of a fact at the A & E's in this thread , no wonder they had to get 360 extra GP appointments :NoNo:


St Richard’s Hospital on ‘black alert’

http://www.chichester.co.uk/news/local/st-richard-s-hospital-on-black-alert-1-6510387