PC idiots

[les_taxi]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2927166/I-m-idiot-m-devastated-caused-offense-British-actor-Benedict-Cumberbatch-issues-apology-calling-black-people-colored-television.html?ito=social-facebook

The guy did nothing wrong - world has gone mad :doh

[Dedworth]

Crazy :crazy: - I read this earlier and for the life of me can't think what is racist about "coloured". The problem is fools like him apologising does nothing but encourage the PC morons who have nothing better to do than trawl through their "social media" crap looking for perceived racism & non pc ism - the UK public sector employs thousands doing just that

[bigmarco]

If it genuinely offends black people then it shouldn't be used and I do seem to remember some aggro a few years back when a politician used the term.
However I find it a wee bit contradictory that America's foremost African American civil rights group is called the NAACP which stands for The National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People :doh

[imagine]

So there is no black but there is white, any other colour does not exist :Erm:

It's a strange old world

[johncar54]

Black, What constitutes black ?

Example: Barack Obama is often referred to as black, but why? His mother was white, his father black, so he is maybe black and white. The whole thing is stupid. A person who is not white - let's forget the pink tones - can be practically any shade from almost white to very black. So what's wrong with saying coloured, black, Asian, Chinese etc.? Providing it is just to describe the skin colour and not intended as an insult!

[imagine]

It's just a load of bull!

How about saying just a little darker than grey? :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Or a darker shade of grey. And for those at the other end of the scale, a lighter shade of pale :anerikke:

[imagine]

ADJECTIVES

1.
Of the very darkest colour owing to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white.
"Black smoke"
Synonyms: dark, pitch-black, jet-black, coal-black, ebony, sable, inky
"a black horse"
Antonyms: white
(Of the sky or night) completely dark owing to non-visibility of the sun, moon, or stars.
"The sky was moonless and black"
[U]Synonyms:[/U unlit, dark, starless, moonless, wan; More
deeply stained with dirt.
"His clothes were absolutely black"
(Of a plant or animal) dark in colour as distinguished from a lighter variety.
"Japanese black pine"
Synonyms: dark, pitch-black, jet-black, coal-black, ebony, sable, inky
"a black horse"
(Of coffee or tea) served without milk or cream.
Of or denoting the suits spades and clubs in a deck of cards.
(Of a ski run) of the highest level of difficulty, as indicated by black markers positioned along it.

2.
Of any human group having dark-coloured skin, especially of African or Australian Aboriginal ancestry.
"Black adolescents of Jamaican descent"
Of, or relating to black people.
"Black culture"

3.
(Of a period of time or situation) characterized by tragic or disastrous events; causing despair or pessimism.
"Five thousand men were killed on the blackest day of the war"
Synonyms: tragic, disastrous, calamitous, catastrophic, cataclysmic, fateful, wretched, woeful, awful, terrible; formalgrievous
"The blackest day of the war"
Antonyms: joyful
(Of a person's state of mind) full of gloom or misery; very depressed.
"Jean had disappeared and Mary was in a black mood"
Synonyms: miserable, unhappy, sad, wretched, broken-hearted, heartbroken, grief-stricken, grieving, sorrowful, sorrowing, anguished, desolate, despairing, disconsolate, downcast, dejected, sullen, cheerless, melancholy, morose, gloomy, glum, mournful, doleful, funereal, dismal, forlorn, woeful, abject; More
(Of humor) presenting tragic or harrowing situations in comic terms.
"“Good place to bury the bodies,” she joked with black humour"
Synonyms: cynical, macabre, weird, unhealthy, ghoulish, morbid, perverted, gruesome; informal, sick
"Black humour"
Full of anger or hatred.
"Roger shot her a black look"
Synonyms: angry, vexed, cross, irritated, incensed
"A black look"
Archaic:
Very evil or wicked.
"My soul is steeped in the blackest sin"
Synonyms: wicked, evil, heinous, villainous, bad
"A black deed"

NOUNS

Noun: black; Plural noun: blacks; noun: Black
1.
Black colour or pigment.
"A tray decorated in black and green"
Black clothes or material, often worn as a sign of mourning.
"Dressed in the black of widowhood"
Darkness, especially of night or an overcast sky.
"The only thing visible in the black was the light of the lantern"

2.
A member of a dark-skinned people, especially one of African or Australian Aboriginal ancestry.
"A coalition of blacks and whites against violence"

3.
(In a game or sport) a black piece or ball, in particular.
The player of the black pieces in chess or checkers.
The black pieces in chess.

VERBS
Verb: black; 3rd person present: blacks; past tense: blacked; past participle: blacked; gerund or present participle: blacking
1.
Make black, especially by the application of black polish.
"blacking the prize bull's hooves"

Source: https://www.google.com.ph/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVNA_enPH571PH573&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=the%20meaning%20of%20black

[johncar54]

When I was serving police office in UK (and I'm sure it's worse now than it was then) we used to be confronted with the ridiculous situation where, if we asked a witness for a description of a suspect, they would describe everything about the person, but not the most obvious, the colour of their skin.

[grahamw48]

The world is overcrowded with paranoid or oversensitive 'victims'. :NoNo:

It is all about INTENT, and of course common sense.

[les_taxi]

Yes no one should use the 'n' word. But at the end of the day we are all coloured - just different shades. I'm a white honkey. :icon_lol:

[KeithD]

I change colour throughout the year, depending on how log I spend in the sun. Maybe I should be classed as 'alternative fluctuating pigmentation' rather than coloured! :Erm:

[andy222]

"I call a spade a spade." :biggrin:

Yanks again. :doh

[Dedworth]

When I was serving police office in UK (and I'm sure it's worse now than then) we used to be confronted with the ridiculous situation where, if we asked a witness for a description of a suspect, they would describe everything about the person, but not the most obvious, the colour of their skin.

No doubt nowadays, for fear of being branded racist, genderist, ageist etc., the Met Police would not describe a wanted mass murderer as an old, black man

[Ako Si Jamie]

Cumberbatch was sticking up for black people too but this conveniently gets unnoticed. Instead some troublemaking berks decide to open up another can of worms. :yawn:

[London_Manila]

I can't keep up with what words I should not say :Erm:

[KeithD]

I can't keep up with what words I should not say :Erm:

All of those :biggrin:

[fred]

Yes no one should use the 'n' word. But at the end of the day we are all coloured - just different shades. I'm a white honkey. :icon_lol:

Which reminds me of Sambo and Honkey in 'Love Thy Neighbour'..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPQgnDP29ek

[fred]

What was that other pre PC comedy series?

[imagine]

Alf Garnet, now he didn't play with words :biggrin:

[SimonH]

What was that other pre PC comedy series?

'Rising Damp', and 'It Ain't Half Hot, Mum' :Erm:

[Dedworth]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oDJoau9nhMs/Ua4TLzot_XI/AAAAAAABk7Q/p6k2sbTyr-c/s1600/noddy-complains-to-mr-plod-shop-book-4.jpg

[fred]

I was thinking of the BBC cut .."It Ain't Half Hot Mum".. Pretty sure Love Thy Neighbour and It Ain't Half Hot Mum used the Nignog word. :yikes:

[SimonH]

Anyone else remember the original Dambusters film in which the black labrador was called Nigger, I think they renamed him Digger for the remake :doh

[fred]

Anyone else remember the original Dambusters film in which the black labrador was called Nigger, I think they renamed him Digger for the remake :doh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29

Nigger was portrayed in the 1955 British war film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_film) The Dam Busters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam_Busters_(film)), in which he was mentioned by name frequently.In 1999, British television network ITV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITV_Network) broadcast a censored version of the film, with all instances of the name removed. ITV blamed regional broadcaster London Weekend Television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Weekend_Television), which in turn alleged that a junior staff member had been responsible for the unauthorised cuts. When ITV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITV_Network) again showed a censored version in June 2001, it was criticised by Index on Censorship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_on_Censorship) as "unnecessary and ridiculous" and because the edits introduced continuity errors.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29#cite_note-Guardian1-5)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29#cite_note-Ramsden2003-6)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29#cite_note-Independent1-7) The code word "nigger" transmitted in Morse Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_Code) upon the successful completion of the central mission was not censored. More recently, in 2012, ITV3 have shown the film uncut a few times, but with a warning at the start that it contains racial terms from the period which some people may find offensive. However, in 2013 the film has been shown a few times by Channel 5 uncut and without any warning.
Some edited American versions of the film use dubbing to change Nigger's name to Trigger

[imagine]

I was thinking of the BBC cut .."it ain't half hot mum".. Pretty sure Love Thy Neighbour and It Ain't Half Hot Mum used the Nignog word.:yikes:

:nono-1-1: ... you can't say "Nignog"! :doh

[KeithD]

I used to collect golliwogs when I was a child. One day I may be arrested and :xxaction-smiley-047

[SimonH]

:nono-1-1: ... you can't say Nignog! :doh

No, it's ok as Fred didn't say nignog, he said that he was pretty sure that nignog was said in the series 'Love Thy Neighbour' and 'It Ain't Half Hot Mum' :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[les_taxi]

'Nignog' was the word used in 'Love Thy Neighbour'. Do you remember Jack? The little bloke who used to say "I'll 'ave 'alf" when they sent him to the bar, lol

[imagine]

Oh gollywogs! That's 4 of us said "Nignog" now :doh

I used to collect the paper gollywogs on jam jars, then send off for the gollywog badges :biggrin:

[imagine]

I used to collect golliwogs when I was a child. One day I may be arrested and :xxaction-smiley-047

Get arrested? :Erm: What did you do to those poor gollywogs? :omg:

[les_taxi]

Were they coloured or pure black golliwogs?

[Arthur Little]

Alf Garnet, now he didn't play with words :biggrin:

:yeahthat:'s right, Stewart! 'Till Death Do Us Part'.

Alf Garnet was played by Warren Mitchell, the "old moo" :oldlady: by Dandy Nicholls, their daughter by Una Stubbs ... and last - but not least - the layabout son-in-law by Tony Booth - whose real life daughter later became the wife of our [then] future Prime Minister.

:omg:!

[Arthur Little]

Alf Garnet, now he didn't play with words :biggrin:

Spot-on once again! Alf certainly didn't mince his words. :nono-1-1: ... he was a staunch Royalist as I recall - had a picture of HM hung up in his living room - was an ardent Conservative supporter and, in many ways, represented a true embodiment of what Imperialist :Britain: used to be like. :wink:

[johndavidc]

Hello All.

I worked for a well-known Children's Charity for years and on one training day one of the tutors split us up into 4 groups and gave us all a bag of 'labels' that have been put on people over the years. You had to put the 'labels' into groups of acceptable and non acceptable. It was amazing how many people got things wrong. Labels like 'Spastic' and 'Mongol' some people were happy to put into the acceptable pile. It was really quite surprising.

Regards, John x

[grahamw48]

Oh gollywogs! That's 4 of us said "Nignog" now :doh

I used to collect the paper gollywogs on jam jars, then send off for the gollywog badges :biggrin:

As did my (now deceased) fiancee, who was half-Jamaican. She would always laugh off 'racist' stuff, and said that a lot of the Carribbean community in the UK walked around with big chips on their shoulders, and that many of the men had a bad attitude, especially towards women.

[Ako Si Jamie]

I heard on the news the other day that a celebrity (can't remember his name) was accused of a sexist comment for saying on air he had "man-flu". :doh