Plane crash - all passengers dead

[Tawi2]

A German wings plane carrying 150 peple has crashed in the French Alps. The airbus A320 had left Barcelona and was en-route to Dusseldorf

R.I.P

[grahamw48]

So sad.

RIP to all.

It will be interesting to see what cause they eventually come up with.

[stevewool]

Agree, so sad.

[marksroomspain]

Facts about the A320 Airbuses....

These aircraft are said to be one of the safest in the world with one taking off every 2 seconds or 4,320 in any 24-hour period and more than 1.5 million per year.

The last known fatalities on this type of aircraft was over 6 years ago in November 2008, so a total of more than 11 million flights have taken place since then.

Source: Wikipedia

RIP...

[Arthur Little]

Heard about it on the News tonight ... tragic! :bigcry:

[Terpe]

Terrible news and a tragic accident.

None of us knows what's around the corner.

RIP

[Arthur Little]

None of us knows what's around the corner.

:nono-1-1: ... thank the Lord for that! :doh

May the victims Rest in Peace ... and sincere condolences to their grieving families. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Terpe]

I just heard about a group of teenage schoolchildren on that flight.
They were returning from an exchange visit in Spain.

Heartbreaking stuff

[imagine]

Sad news, may they rest in peace

[Arthur Little]

I just heard about a group of teenage schoolchildren on that flight.
They were returning from an exchange visit in Spain.

Heartbreaking stuff

Indeed it is ... always worse when children are involved! :NoNo:

[cheekee]

So sad

RIP

[Ako Si Jamie]

Apparently the plane crashed because one of the pilots got locked out of the cabin and couldn't get back in which begs the question - what happened to the other pilot?

Did he collapse or was this a suicide mission on his part? :Erm:

Brits from Manchester, Wolverhampton and Hull were on board.

[Tawi2]

I wonder if the one remaining inside the cabin suffered a heart attack or black-out or...............maybe he liked visiting mosques and read the koran at bedtime and his 4'th wife was 12 years old :Erm:Maybe the last words on the flight recorder are............Allah Akhbar.

[SimonH]

There's a heck of a lot more to this than we're being told :cwm25:

1. Why did the French Prime-minister announce so quickly after the tragedy that there were no survivors?
2. Why did the French military dispatch two Mirage jets to the crash site?

[Harry T]

Latest OFFICIAL news from Marseille French prosecutor, is that the Co Pilot took over the controls whilst the Pilot answered a call of nature, the door to the Cockpit was as is normal locked upon the Pilot leaving the Cockpit, the plane then started its descent.
The Pilot then attempted to re-enter the Cockpit but the Co Pilot would not open the door, the Pilot was knocking the door trying to open the door, this continued until the Plane crashed, the Co Pilot never uttered a word to the locked our Pilot, but they say that they could hear the Co pilot breathing, the Planes descent could only be done manually.

So whilst it was an accident, it was caused by a human action, and a deliberate action, the French Prosecutor is saying its Involuntary Homicide.

[Tawi2]

The arent saying it was an accident,its inconclusive at the moment,the co-pilot's breathing is normal,they are classing it as involuntary homicide but not ruling out voluntary.

[Tawi2]

Now they are saying theres strong signs the co-pilot crashed the plane deliberately.

[grahamw48]

Sounds like much more thorough initial and ongoing vetting of pilots is needed !

[Harry T]

Fair play to the French Prosecutor, he didnt hold back he told it as he knows it, It seems to have been a deliberate act by the Co Pilot, he told about the screams of passengers in the last moments before the final crash, then he descibes the search for body PARTS.

In all of this no one mentions the rescue/search parties in all of this, it doesnt matter how much Training one has, this must still be a horrible thing to have to do, as we can see from the Helicopter Camera shots their are hundreds of various items scattered around, and its becoming increasingly clear they are NOT zooming in to close, and i think its pretty apparent now as to why this is not being done.

I can only echo what others have said RIP.

[cheekee]

If this is true this has happened before.

I can't remember when but I saw a documentary about a pilot who asked the first officer to get them a coffee. Then he locked the door and crashed the plane.

Turns out he was in a lot of trouble so decided to end it.

[marksroomspain]

Apparently 6 years ago the co-pilot had undergone some sort of physciatric testing and found fully fit to fly after a short time away from training.....mmm I suppose all this will come to light shortly.

RIP...

[Tawi2]

The co-pilot was supposedly suffering depression,its all hearsay and guesswork at the moment,plod have just searched his and his parents places,maybe they will unearth some paperwork or PC files to explain in part what happened,unless it was spur of the moment.

[Dedworth]

Don't take this the wrong way folks but imho a lot of crazed speculation and conspiracy type theories just like the last 2 Malaysian crashes. Maybe the pilot went for a wazz :Erm:? Next thing we will be hearing is that ISIS attempted to hijack it to take it to a secret ex CIA airstrip in the Ukraine.

[Ako Si Jamie]

There should be a mandatory three pilots on every plane. Any shenanigans and the other two can sort out the lunatic. Failing that, the pilots will have to pee in a bottle.

[Terpe]

There should be a mandatory three pilots on every plane. Any shenanigans and the other two can sort out the lunatic. Failing that, the pilots will have to pee in a bottle.

I'm pretty sure that will be one of the outcomes.

Personally I can't really think of much that can be done to actually prevent someone doing such a thing in a protected cockpit environment if they have such a motivation to do it.

As for depression, well plenty of people suffer from that in one way or another, but it's a very long and convoluted pathway from depression to mass-murder.

There are 'crazies' on almost every corner. Was it always like this ?

[Michael Parnham]

A very tragic event!

[bigmarco]

American Airlines operate the rule of 2 always in the cockpit. Even Ryanair operate this policy. If one of the pilots leave then a member of Cabin Crew goes in until they return.
Such a simple rule which in all probability would have saved this mass murder happening :cwm23:

[SimonH]

If the technology is there to remotely control a plane then couldn't the same technology be implemented to remotely open the cockpit door :Erm:

[bigmarco]

If the technology is there to remotely control a plane then couldn't the same technology be implemented to remotely open the cockpit door :Erm:

I understand the need to make the deck impregnable to the terrorists which is where your suggestion may not work. Obviously the amount of terrorists who would like to fly planes into buildings far outweigh the amount of deranged pilots so a manual override is not really the answer.

[SimonH]

I understand the need to make the deck impregnable to the terrorists which is where your suggestion may not work. Obviously the amount of terrorists who would like to fly planes into buildings far outweigh the amount of deranged pilots so a manual override is not really the answer.

Sorry Marco, I meant a remote electronic override. Remote, as in from somewhere on the ground not within the confines of the plane.

[grahamw48]

I think the "come in here someone please, while the Capt takes a leak" is by far the easiest and most practical solution, and the one which most airlines have already adopted or are about to. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Tawi2]

German police have "Found and item of significance" in his apartment..........Koran??Prayer-mat???

[SimonH]

German police have "Found and item of significance" in his apartment..........Koran??Prayer-mat???


A screwed up doctors note, signing him off sick :crazy:

[Ako Si Jamie]

The story of a Jakarta to Singapore flight in 1997 which crashed due to the pilot committing suicide.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig9LE0Vp1YM

[Ako Si Jamie]

The press are saying Lubitz was having relationship problems with his girlfriend who was expecting his baby. Another paper reported that he was losing his eyesight, therefore scuppering his dream of becoming a long-haul pilot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11496066/Andreas-Lubitz-hid-illness-Everything-we-know-on-Sunday-about-Germanwings-plane-crash-co-pilot.html

[Ako Si Jamie]

I was watching an episode of Aircraft Investigations last night and the reason why this particular crash occurred was that both pilots didn't know how to fully operate the plane as they weren't properly qualified. Furthermore, some of the passengers on board were prominent figures in the government. :yikes:

[cheekee]

I was watching an episode of Aircraft Investigations last night and the reason why this particular crash occurred was that both pilots didn't know how to fully operate the plane as they weren't properly qualified. Furthermore, some of the passengers on board were prominent figures in the government. :yikes:

Yes I saw that one.

[grahamw48]

Avoid watching just before your next flight. :cwm25: