Capsized ferry 38 people killed and 33 still missing

[Dedworth]

At least 38 people killed and 33 still missing after ferry carrying nearly 200 people capsizes in the Philippines

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[les_taxi]

When I was there on a ferry I noticed bits of wood regularly in the water :yikes:

[Michael Parnham]

When we go to Philippines we use the Delta Ferry from Dumaguete to Siquijor and return most days and the state of the ferries is terrible. Frstly, you're packed inside like sardines - no windows that open - and they are held together with 50 years of paint. They kick out black smoke like you've never seen before and any life jackets you can see (which are very few) are not packed properly and look older than the Ferry. God help anyone if something ever happens - they would have no chance - and those that work and ride on the ferries are oblivious to any danger. I always try to seat Maritess and I near the only door! :NoNo:

[Ako Si Jamie]

When we go to Philippines we use the Delta Ferry from Dumaguete to Siquijor and return most days and the state of the ferries is terrible. Firstly, you're packed inside like sardines - no windows that open - and they are held together with 50 years of paint. They kick out black smoke like you've never seen before and any life jackets you can see (which are very few) are not packed properly and look older than the Ferry. God help anyone if something ever happens - they would have no chance - and those that work and ride on the ferries are oblivious to any danger. I always try to seat Maritess and I near the only door! :NoNo:

Use Ocean Jet or the slow ferry to Siquijor. Both open decked.

As for this tragedy - very sad. This was a bangka too, not a proper ferry.

I've been on one of those large bangkas to Mindoro and there were quite a few passengers on board but not as many as 70. Perhaps it was overloaded. :Erm:

[Michael Parnham]

The slow Ferry only travels twice each day and the Ocean Jet isn't much better than Delta. And that is only twice each day because it calls at Bohol and Cebu Jamie. We do use both on odd occasion but the Delta is every 40 minutes so more convenient, but all the ferries are risky :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ako Si Jamie]

The slow Ferry only travels twice each day and the Ocean Jet isn't much better than Delta. And that is only twice each day because it calls at Bohol and Cebu Jamie. We do use both on odd occasion but the Delta is every 40 minutes so more convenient, but all the ferries are risky :xxgrinning--00xx3:

When you think about it, The Philippines is an archipelago so maritime tragedies like this are going to be more frequent and there must be hundreds of sailings per day in the Central Philippines whether it's an actual ferry or a bangka.

[Ako Si Jamie]

It does sound that it was overloaded according to fresh reports. :NoNo:

[Terpe]

Seems that MV Kim-Nirvana had a capacity of 173 passengers and 16 crew members.
The coast guard suspects more were aboard.

Human error is also blamed.

[fred]

It seems that the passengers were afraid of huge waves and all ran to one side of the boat to avoid..All at once. I suppose it just tipped over.

[Terpe]

I just heard mention of so many bags of cement and sacks of rice being aboard but not listed :Erm:

[Ako Si Jamie]

These are the vessels that ply the route from Ormoc to Camotes. One report said it was a bangka but that's more of a ferry I reckon.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcxpvJ-tLQTkw79o4dzRtS_lfvS0cwu0OVhutZSYrvHriDTPO4Fw

[Ako Si Jamie]

Owner and crew charged with murder because it was done on purpose. :Erm:

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/manila-charges-crew-owners-of-sunk-ferry-with-murder-official-778111

[Terpe]

What a story.
My wife and I both read this.

By coincidence this guy was also interviewed on TV about his experience.
Biggest respect to him.

He's a very large guy, not an athlete, so he did extremely well. IMO

[Michael Parnham]

This man deserves a medal, wow what a story and such a tragic one too. Something should be done about all the Ferries in Philippines too many hazards too many deaths no one should die on such a essential form of transport, the Ferries are in terrible condition and very few meet a desired standard! :cwm23:

[Ako Si Jamie]

This man deserves a medal, wow what a story and such a tragic one too. Something should be done about all the Ferries in Philippines too many hazards too many deaths no one should die on such a essential form of transport, the Ferries are in terrible condition and very few meet a desired standard! :cwm23:

I think a combination of bad weather, overloading and the fact that the majority can't swim contribute a lot. The ferries in the Isle of Wight back in the eighties weren't much better.

[Michael Parnham]

Wow what a story, to those that lost their live's RIP.

[fred]

Thats a guy I can really call a HERO.. Amazing.

[Dedworth]

Thats a guy I can really call a HERO.. Amazing.

Seconded

Good write up Fred glad you posted it in full rather than the new rule of having to edit / precis it - the original is generally the best

[Ako Si Jamie]

Thanks for sharing this sad but interesting story. That guy deserves a lot of praise.

I bet the majority who had died would have survived if they could swim.

[fred]

American passenger blasts PCG, praises Nirvana captain


http://mobile.abs-cbnnews.com/natio...passenger-blasts-pcg-praises-nirvana-captain/ (http://mobile.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/07/06/15/american-passenger-blasts-pcg-praises-nirvana-captain/)

[raynaputi]

Fred,

Can you just post the links of those stories you posted above? We don't want to be penalised for duplicated posts (you know what happened to the forum in the past). We don't own the rights to those people's personal stories anyway. We have set out the rules already about that. Please edit your posts or I will delete most of it to comply to our rules.

Thanks!

[raynaputi]

Seconded

Good write up Fred glad you posted it in full rather than the new rule of having to edit / precis it - the original is generally the best

WE HAVE RULES HERE IN THE FORUM FOR A REASON! :ReadIt:

[fred]

WE HAVE RULES HERE IN THE FORUM FOR A REASON! :ReadIt:

I have permission from the author to share... Thought that would be fine.
If not just delete it all.. Links are not appropriate in this instance.

Edit:
Posts deleted.
What a shame.

[raynaputi]

I have permission from the author to share... Thought that would be fine.
If not just delete it all.. Links are not appropriate in this instance.

Okay, since you have permission from the author (I hope for both posts), then that's fine. You didn't state it in your posts, hence my comment. If you can post the links it would be better though.

I know those that are from the Philippines have slow internet connection and would rather read everything in here. Unfortunately, the forum needs to adhere to legalities so redirecting to sites where you got the articles/stories will always be the best thing to do (or if you can rewrite it in your own words). We have been penalised in the past (and moderators know all about it) and if it happens again, then it'll be another problem we can't solve that quick.

[Dedworth]

I have permission from the author to share... Thought that would be fine.
If not just delete it all.. Links are not appropriate in this instance.

Edit:
Posts deleted.
What a shame.

Your original piece Fred straight from the horses mouth was very informative compared with the ABS/CBN sterilized article

[grahamw48]

What an awful tragedy.

Please teach your children to swim everyone.....and yourselves !


I would suggest the Coastguard bear a large part of the responsibility, as they are the ones tasked with clearing such vessels for departure.

[fred]

Your original piece Fred straight from the horses mouth was very informative compared with the ABS/CBN sterilized article

Thanks Ded..:biggrin: